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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2600 on: April 03, 2016, 05:58:13 PM »
It's all good people- "just for fun" right?

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2601 on: April 04, 2016, 07:40:11 AM »
DH is gung ho to buy me a new car. Not just any car, but a fancy pants luxury model. I've told him in no uncertain terms that he is not allowed to buy me a car and especially not a really nice one. I don't want to deplete the stash and I actually like driving a more beat up car so I don't have to carry comprehensive insurance on it, don't have to care about scratching it and people will assume we're broke, rather than the other way round.

He must be the only man in town whose wife would be mad at him for buying her a nice car.

But wait, there is another wife like that!
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2602 on: April 04, 2016, 08:18:03 AM »
DH is gung ho to buy me a new car. Not just any car, but a fancy pants luxury model. I've told him in no uncertain terms that he is not allowed to buy me a car and especially not a really nice one. I don't want to deplete the stash and I actually like driving a more beat up car so I don't have to carry comprehensive insurance on it, don't have to care about scratching it and people will assume we're broke, rather than the other way round.

He must be the only man in town whose wife would be mad at him for buying her a nice car.

But wait, there is another wife like that!
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cringe!!

My husband sometimes hints around at just showing up with my dream car in the driveway.  In no uncertain terms, I've made it clear that I do not want that.  It's a $100K car and I would be quite upset!


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« Reply #2603 on: April 04, 2016, 02:12:47 PM »
I'm salaried.  And for more detail, the choice was consumer crap goods that I do not want nor need, or Amazon gift cards.  I chose the gift cards.

The system my company uses to 'reward' employees reminds me of what my mother was offered when she retired.  She was given a catalog and was told she could choose anything in it up to some level.  I was technically given "points" that could be redeemed for worthless stuff that I don't want (and oh by the way, it's taxed at the same rate as the gift cards).  I'm happy that the cards were offered, because otherwise I probably wouldn't have redeemed the points for anything at all.

This 'complaint' of mine is truly a 贅沢な悩み (zeitaku na nayami). lol  (Translates roughly to "worry of luxury")

Oh, and...how do you get amazon gift cards for a 4-5% discount?  That interests me, because my main use of amazon is for getting presents for my niece/nephews.
Amazon offers referal programs - someone buys something after they clicked your link and you get paid. In most countries that is 6% for gift cards.
(example> http://www.amazon.de/s/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&keywords=geschenkgutschein%20amazon&linkCode=ur2&qid=1404679311&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ageschenkgutschein%20amazon&site-redirect=de&tag=lennstarsgeda-21 would give my account % )

hm...... talking about luxury worries - how do you think "clown car driving" would translate to nihongo?
And can you please link to the wikipedia entry about the car class where you dont need a parking space in Tokyo? the ultra short ones. I always forget it.

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« Reply #2604 on: April 04, 2016, 05:35:13 PM »
I'm salaried.  And for more detail, the choice was consumer crap goods that I do not want nor need, or Amazon gift cards.  I chose the gift cards.

The system my company uses to 'reward' employees reminds me of what my mother was offered when she retired.  She was given a catalog and was told she could choose anything in it up to some level.  I was technically given "points" that could be redeemed for worthless stuff that I don't want (and oh by the way, it's taxed at the same rate as the gift cards).  I'm happy that the cards were offered, because otherwise I probably wouldn't have redeemed the points for anything at all.

This 'complaint' of mine is truly a 贅沢な悩み (zeitaku na nayami). lol  (Translates roughly to "worry of luxury")

Oh, and...how do you get amazon gift cards for a 4-5% discount?  That interests me, because my main use of amazon is for getting presents for my niece/nephews.
Amazon offers referal programs - someone buys something after they clicked your link and you get paid. In most countries that is 6% for gift cards.
(example> http://www.amazon.de/s/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1638&creative=19454&keywords=geschenkgutschein%20amazon&linkCode=ur2&qid=1404679311&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ageschenkgutschein%20amazon&site-redirect=de&tag=lennstarsgeda-21 would give my account % )

hm...... talking about luxury worries - how do you think "clown car driving" would translate to nihongo?
And can you please link to the wikipedia entry about the car class where you dont need a parking space in Tokyo? the ultra short ones. I always forget it.
Thanks for the link!

I assume you're referring to "Kei" cars, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car

Hmm...I don't know about that translation....bakasha unten maybe?  バカ車運転  The question is, would anyone understand the meaning you're trying to convey?

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2605 on: April 04, 2016, 05:50:37 PM »
My husband sometimes hints around at just showing up with my dream car in the driveway.  In no uncertain terms, I've made it clear that I do not want that.  It's a $100K car and I would be quite upset!

I hear about people doing this kind of stuff and I really don't get it. "Hey, honey! Against your expressed wishes, *I* bought *you* a treat with *our* money!"
"I can't believe you're still doing things your way after I explained why my way is better."

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2606 on: April 05, 2016, 10:53:02 AM »
I was going to up my contributions for my retirement and stocks thinking I had forgotten logged in and saw I had already entered 3 small increases and forgotten about them.  I did increase two or three more then logged out.


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« Reply #2607 on: April 05, 2016, 12:19:32 PM »
Thanks for the link!

I assume you're referring to "Kei" cars, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car

Hmm...I don't know about that translation....bakasha unten maybe?  バカ車運転  The question is, would anyone understand the meaning you're trying to convey?
Thats the one, right! Thanks.
(I must build me some mnemo like... sometimes these cars look (their visual is) like visual kei cars (k and c sounding the same))

 Clown car driving has no pre-MMM meaning either, so I think its ok if it is totally new meaning. My japanese is not good enough to judge any fine points anyway, but I think we need something more slapstick-stupid sounding.
Like the mascot of the freezer company Fukushima that called it Fuckuppy. It did get quite a few smiles in the english speaking world, but it was still a real fuck up of the "better image" idea.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2608 on: April 05, 2016, 02:03:41 PM »
My condo association had to do a fairly large and expensive repair project, and will be charging us all for a special assessment.  In order to pay for it, the association took out a loan (at a higher interest rate than I am able to obtain for a loan myself), and I am forced to pay my portion off with some monthly payment schedule, instead of just writing one big check and avoiding paying the extra interest.

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« Reply #2609 on: April 05, 2016, 03:40:07 PM »
My condo association had to do a fairly large and expensive repair project, and will be charging us all for a special assessment.  In order to pay for it, the association took out a loan (at a higher interest rate than I am able to obtain for a loan myself), and I am forced to pay my portion off with some monthly payment schedule, instead of just writing one big check and avoiding paying the extra interest.

Wow, I'd be fighting them on that. I'd be doing the math on what the interest would be on your portion and then telling them I'm paying my portion, minus the interest, all in one lump sum. This is yet another sad example of the fact that the average person thinks that paying interest is just part of life.

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« Reply #2610 on: April 05, 2016, 04:35:43 PM »
My condo association had to do a fairly large and expensive repair project, and will be charging us all for a special assessment.  In order to pay for it, the association took out a loan (at a higher interest rate than I am able to obtain for a loan myself), and I am forced to pay my portion off with some monthly payment schedule, instead of just writing one big check and avoiding paying the extra interest.

Wow, I'd be fighting them on that. I'd be doing the math on what the interest would be on your portion and then telling them I'm paying my portion, minus the interest, all in one lump sum. This is yet another sad example of the fact that the average person thinks that paying interest is just part of life.

Agreed. But, Idk if they would see/accept  your side of it. Because of the interest the association has agreed upon to pay. At the least , I could see them accepting the entire lump sum (with the interest) .
Seems like something the condo community would have discussed first. But maybe they did(?) And decided for the typically monthly plan .

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2611 on: April 06, 2016, 07:41:36 AM »
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« Reply #2612 on: April 06, 2016, 10:00:50 AM »
My Mustachian newly FIREd Problem:  I can't seem to wipe the smile off my face!  😄

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« Reply #2613 on: April 06, 2016, 10:02:10 AM »
Also,  I now have time to take afternoon naps - but without the soulsucking job, I don't have the need to anymore...
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« Reply #2614 on: April 06, 2016, 10:38:30 AM »
Also,  I now have time to take afternoon naps - but without the soulsucking job, I don't have the need to anymore...

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« Reply #2615 on: April 07, 2016, 04:36:04 AM »
Mustachian Person Problem:

I writing my to-do list and amongst many other boring things like "Check life insurance renewal" was, "Count money".

I am STILL trying to get through all that cash I had lying around from months ago, and I wanted to make sure I wasn't getting slapdash tracking my spending.

But then I did a double-take and realised I sound like Scrooge making an appointment to sit and count my money, and scrapped that to do list and made a mental note instead.

(It all added up right, don't worry)

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« Reply #2616 on: April 07, 2016, 04:56:56 AM »
Mustachian Person Problem:

I writing my to-do list and amongst many other boring things like "Check life insurance renewal" was, "Count money".

I am STILL trying to get through all that cash I had lying around from months ago, and I wanted to make sure I wasn't getting slapdash tracking my spending.

But then I did a double-take and realised I sound like Scrooge making an appointment to sit and count my money, and scrapped that to do list and made a mental note instead.

(It all added up right, don't worry)

That's hilarious

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2617 on: April 07, 2016, 06:43:53 AM »
I like to do surveys on Swagbucks (mostly for fun rather than their measly payoff..  it somehow feels fulfilling to have my opinion heard as a Mustachian and a minority).

Unfortunately, a lot of these surveys will ask if you've bought a certain product, how much you spend on certain things, how often you buy a product/service, etc. as "filter" questions in the beginning and I get disqualified at that step for at least 90% of the time.

As a marketing researcher, I write some of those surveys. Yeah...the people on this forum are definitely not the target respondents.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2618 on: April 07, 2016, 09:06:35 AM »
I like to do surveys on Swagbucks (mostly for fun rather than their measly payoff..  it somehow feels fulfilling to have my opinion heard as a Mustachian and a minority).

Unfortunately, a lot of these surveys will ask if you've bought a certain product, how much you spend on certain things, how often you buy a product/service, etc. as "filter" questions in the beginning and I get disqualified at that step for at least 90% of the time.

As a marketing researcher, I write some of those surveys. Yeah...the people on this forum are definitely not the target respondents.

Hey, I do surveys sometimes and I was wondering - how come the really important qualifying questions are often quite far in? It's not uncommon for me to spend several minutes putting in my age, income, marital status, region, and job field, and only after that get asked "Do you own a car?" or "How many times a week do you use tobacco/alcohol?". If the survey is about cars or tobacco or alcohol, why is that never the first question?
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« Reply #2619 on: April 07, 2016, 11:53:50 AM »
I like to do surveys on Swagbucks (mostly for fun rather than their measly payoff..  it somehow feels fulfilling to have my opinion heard as a Mustachian and a minority).

Unfortunately, a lot of these surveys will ask if you've bought a certain product, how much you spend on certain things, how often you buy a product/service, etc. as "filter" questions in the beginning and I get disqualified at that step for at least 90% of the time.

As a marketing researcher, I write some of those surveys. Yeah...the people on this forum are definitely not the target respondents.

Hey, I do surveys sometimes and I was wondering - how come the really important qualifying questions are often quite far in? It's not uncommon for me to spend several minutes putting in my age, income, marital status, region, and job field, and only after that get asked "Do you own a car?" or "How many times a week do you use tobacco/alcohol?". If the survey is about cars or tobacco or alcohol, why is that never the first question?
Because they get statistical data without paying for it (when you get "fired").
I really really hate that, because of course I also get kicked in 90% of the cases.
Like "When did you last bought a jeans?" hm... about 3 years ago? And the longest time possible is one year.
And all the brand questions that dont make sense for me.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2620 on: April 07, 2016, 11:38:13 PM »
I like to do surveys on Swagbucks (mostly for fun rather than their measly payoff..  it somehow feels fulfilling to have my opinion heard as a Mustachian and a minority).
Unfortunately, a lot of these surveys will ask if you've bought a certain product, how much you spend on certain things, how often you buy a product/service, etc. as "filter" questions in the beginning and I get disqualified at that step for at least 90% of the time.
As a marketing researcher, I write some of those surveys. Yeah...the people on this forum are definitely not the target respondents.

Hey, I do surveys sometimes and I was wondering - how come the really important qualifying questions are often quite far in? It's not uncommon for me to spend several minutes putting in my age, income, marital status, region, and job field, and only after that get asked "Do you own a car?" or "How many times a week do you use tobacco/alcohol?". If the survey is about cars or tobacco or alcohol, why is that never the first question?

Sometimes it is because we need to weight the data to make it look like the general population.  And we don't know the composition of the population who drinks alcohol 1x/week or more.  But we do know the general population.  So we weight everyone, and then the distribution should be pretty close once the screener is done.

The other reason is sometimes that the company is using a router, and so  it's trying to find the survey that you qualify for. That's why you keep getting asked similar questions over and over (slightly different age breaks, a different set of potential answers for education).

Finally, some clients think that it's too obvious what types of answers would qualify if you put that question first, and respondents would lie in order to get into the survey.  This is obviously silly, because it's just as easy for them to answer those obvious questions later in.
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2621 on: April 09, 2016, 03:24:51 PM »
I wrote a trouble ticket to Mint about how the income minus spending = left over money thing on my budgets page is always wrong. The "spending" amount is always way off (by like 40%). It doesn't resemble budgeted or actual spending in any way. I wrote in to them and sent screenshots of the issue and explained everything and at the end emphasized how important it is to have an accurate idea of how much money you have left over in the budget each month. (Using the term "left over" because that's what their site specifically calls this number.)

So they got back to me today and the reply was all about how my bank account balance was not updating/incorrect. Asking what bank it is, when the problem started, etc. And I was completely baffled because this has zero relation to what I actually wrote to them about and I've never had a problem with that.

Then I realized that they must be assuming that anyone referring to knowing how much money is left over each month must be referring to their checking account balance. Because everyone has to spend all their money every month and would never save money from one month to the next (let alone keep a sizable emergency fund in cash).
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2622 on: April 09, 2016, 05:21:54 PM »
And can you please link to the wikipedia entry about the car class where you dont need a parking space in Tokyo? the ultra short ones. I always forget it.

Kei cars still need proof of parking (車庫証明) in Tokyo.  It varies from town to town but generally, anywhere with > 100,000 population would require proof of parking for Kei cars.  Standard cars require proof of parking regardless of population.

http://軽自動車専門ランキング.com/kcar-parking-certificate-1152/

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2623 on: April 12, 2016, 07:47:42 PM »
Had a coupon for $5 off $15 purchase.  Spent about 15minutes looking for something that I would buy even at 1/3 off!  Found closeouts on some granola type cereal that came to less than $2/box before discount but there were only 7 boxes.  Caved in and bought a couple low cost bottles of tonic water to go with my gin to cross the $15 mark.  I felt so used!  $10.26+tax and out the door.

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« Reply #2624 on: April 12, 2016, 08:50:38 PM »
I have weather envy. I see all these Mustachians who don't have or refuse to use a dryer. 

I put the sheets out on the line this week. They were out for 8 hours but were still damp when they came in and I had to put them in the dryer after all. The cold fingers before and after weren't worth it. AND it's started to snow again.

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« Reply #2625 on: April 12, 2016, 09:30:52 PM »
Mpp:  when you become too good at challenges.

In December I decided instead of buying new clothing for a big trip this summer I would lose a few pounds so my really old clothes would fit again. I cut back on snacks and increased my walking (saving money there, too) but now everything is too big and I have to buy new clothes.

Im not really upset about it but find it ironic that all of my work to avoid swim suit shopping resulted in my swim suit shopping, just a few sizes smaller.


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« Reply #2626 on: April 13, 2016, 01:48:18 AM »
Mpp:  when you become too good at challenges.

In December I decided instead of buying new clothing for a big trip this summer I would lose a few pounds so my really old clothes would fit again. I cut back on snacks and increased my walking (saving money there, too) but now everything is too big and I have to buy new clothes.

Im not really upset about it but find it ironic that all of my work to avoid swim suit shopping resulted in my swim suit shopping, just a few sizes smaller.

Haha. Awesome

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2627 on: April 13, 2016, 08:30:42 AM »
I have weather envy. I see all these Mustachians who don't have or refuse to use a dryer. 

I put the sheets out on the line this week. They were out for 8 hours but were still damp when they came in and I had to put them in the dryer after all. The cold fingers before and after weren't worth it. AND it's started to snow again.

You're not alone.  Do you have any idea how much pollen wet clothes would absorb in the spring time?   That's just what my sinuses need, concentrated pollen all over me with no chance of escape. 
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« Reply #2628 on: April 13, 2016, 09:44:28 AM »
My condo association had to do a fairly large and expensive repair project, and will be charging us all for a special assessment.  In order to pay for it, the association took out a loan (at a higher interest rate than I am able to obtain for a loan myself), and I am forced to pay my portion off with some monthly payment schedule, instead of just writing one big check and avoiding paying the extra interest.

Wow, I'd be fighting them on that. I'd be doing the math on what the interest would be on your portion and then telling them I'm paying my portion, minus the interest, all in one lump sum. This is yet another sad example of the fact that the average person thinks that paying interest is just part of life.

Agreed. But, Idk if they would see/accept  your side of it. Because of the interest the association has agreed upon to pay. At the least , I could see them accepting the entire lump sum (with the interest) .
Seems like something the condo community would have discussed first. But maybe they did(?) And decided for the typically monthly plan .

 If the condo owner pays a lump sum, then the condo assoc. should make a lump sum payment
on the principal and there will be no interest on that portion.

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« Reply #2629 on: April 13, 2016, 11:58:26 AM »
I have weather envy. I see all these Mustachians who don't have or refuse to use a dryer. 

I put the sheets out on the line this week. They were out for 8 hours but were still damp when they came in and I had to put them in the dryer after all. The cold fingers before and after weren't worth it. AND it's started to snow again.

You're not alone.  Do you have any idea how much pollen wet clothes would absorb in the spring time?   That's just what my sinuses need, concentrated pollen all over me with no chance of escape.
Buy an extra large indoor drying rack.  I have mine for over 30 years (a college graduation present from my grandmother - no kidding).  I never use a dryer.  Mine will hold a large load of clothes.  It is especially good in the winter time as it helps to humidify the dry air.  And my clothes last longer.  Of course if you have a large family this technique may be a problem, but for a single guy like me it works great, and keeps costs way down.

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« Reply #2630 on: April 13, 2016, 12:23:25 PM »
Buy an extra large indoor drying rack.  I have mine for over 30 years (a college graduation present from my grandmother - no kidding).  I never use a dryer.  Mine will hold a large load of clothes.  It is especially good in the winter time as it helps to humidify the dry air.  And my clothes last longer.  Of course if you have a large family this technique may be a problem, but for a single guy like me it works great, and keeps costs way down.

I would actually recommend multiple smaller drying racks over one large one. I have three: a medium-sized one I rescued from the garbage, a small one I bought for $10 at a big box store, and an extra small one I bought from a salvage store for $5. Typically, I only need the medium one for a standard load, but if I do more than one load or have things like sheets and towels, the others come out. And the smaller two fit in my bathtub, so if I do hand wash that's soaking wet, I just put the rack in the tub and put the clothes on it soaking wet.

I do think 8 hours is fairly optimistic for drying time, and I don't even live in a particularly humid place. It usually takes 24-48 hours for clothes to dry on my indoor rack.

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« Reply #2631 on: April 13, 2016, 12:54:56 PM »
I have weather envy. I see all these Mustachians who don't have or refuse to use a dryer. 

I put the sheets out on the line this week. They were out for 8 hours but were still damp when they came in and I had to put them in the dryer after all. The cold fingers before and after weren't worth it. AND it's started to snow again.

You're not alone.  Do you have any idea how much pollen wet clothes would absorb in the spring time?   That's just what my sinuses need, concentrated pollen all over me with no chance of escape.

Thanks to allergies and asthma, I can't do outdoor drying, ever. Not if I want to breathe.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2632 on: April 13, 2016, 01:35:06 PM »
Buy an extra large indoor drying rack.  I have mine for over 30 years (a college graduation present from my grandmother - no kidding).  I never use a dryer.  Mine will hold a large load of clothes.  It is especially good in the winter time as it helps to humidify the dry air.  And my clothes last longer.  Of course if you have a large family this technique may be a problem, but for a single guy like me it works great, and keeps costs way down.

I would actually recommend multiple smaller drying racks over one large one. I have three: a medium-sized one I rescued from the garbage, a small one I bought for $10 at a big box store, and an extra small one I bought from a salvage store for $5. Typically, I only need the medium one for a standard load, but if I do more than one load or have things like sheets and towels, the others come out. And the smaller two fit in my bathtub, so if I do hand wash that's soaking wet, I just put the rack in the tub and put the clothes on it soaking wet.

I do think 8 hours is fairly optimistic for drying time, and I don't even live in a particularly humid place. It usually takes 24-48 hours for clothes to dry on my indoor rack.
Another option I use is in the winter I have a oil radiator heater keeping my bedroom warm.  I will place various clothes on it for a short time and swap out to speed up the drying.  I can usually (in the winter) get a whole load dry in 4-ish hours using the rack and radiator combo.  Although I prefer to hang and let dry overnight as its less work.   And if you have any wicking athletic clothes (I do) they dry extra fast.  Another technique to speed up drying is to run a fan over the drying rack.  Its not often, but when I need clothes faster I will add this to the operation.  Using all three methods I can be finished and folded a load in 3 hours or less.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2633 on: April 13, 2016, 06:08:36 PM »
Buy an extra large indoor drying rack.  I have mine for over 30 years (a college graduation present from my grandmother - no kidding).  I never use a dryer.  Mine will hold a large load of clothes.  It is especially good in the winter time as it helps to humidify the dry air.  And my clothes last longer.  Of course if you have a large family this technique may be a problem, but for a single guy like me it works great, and keeps costs way down.

I would actually recommend multiple smaller drying racks over one large one. I have three: a medium-sized one I rescued from the garbage, a small one I bought for $10 at a big box store, and an extra small one I bought from a salvage store for $5. Typically, I only need the medium one for a standard load, but if I do more than one load or have things like sheets and towels, the others come out. And the smaller two fit in my bathtub, so if I do hand wash that's soaking wet, I just put the rack in the tub and put the clothes on it soaking wet.

I do think 8 hours is fairly optimistic for drying time, and I don't even live in a particularly humid place. It usually takes 24-48 hours for clothes to dry on my indoor rack.

I second this.  I've been line drying over a decade - never outside.  I do it in the basement 9 months a year, in the attic in the humid summer.  The added bonus is that clothes can stay on the racks for days. 


Also, you don't have to stick to traditional drying racks.  I use an old CD racks, an old baby gate, ropes strung across an area.  For a while I had an artificial Christimas tree truck and stuck hangers in the slots.  I hung socks on the hangers. 

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2634 on: April 14, 2016, 07:11:00 AM »
I love this place.  I felt a bit odd buying my second drying rack, but I'm right at home here.

I wash clothes when my kids are away (3 days) and one drying rack in their room and one in the kitchen (both of the rooms in my house that get the most sun).  Clothes get put away when the mood hits. :)

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2635 on: April 14, 2016, 11:31:14 AM »
, ropes strung across an area.  For a while I had an artificial Christimas tree truck and stuck hangers in the slots. 
In less advanced (if you want to say that) parts of the world that is called a clothesline, you may guess why that is the case ;)

Where I live its normal (as in always) that multi-household-rent buildings have big and long metallic "goals" where you (and several others at the same time) can knot your line on.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2636 on: April 15, 2016, 05:34:33 PM »
I love this thread.

I recently signed up for the Chase Freedom credit card to get the $150 bonus for $500 spend in first 3 months. You also get $25 for adding an authorized user if they make 1 purchase in the first 3 months.

i planned to put the lowest-possible purchase on the second authorized user card to get the $25. I set up a coffee meeting with a friend who works at an institution I want to get hired at. He picked the coffee spot. To my dismay, the place was cash-only b/c of CC machine issues. I was looking forward to using the card all week. Now I have to find another almost free item to get the rewards. I quit drinking coffee (cutting my almost $1500/year latte habit. Have to wait for a small cheap purchase but I pretty much buy nothing. Darn.

Anyone want to grab a coffee on me? I'm in NYC :)

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2637 on: April 15, 2016, 05:45:03 PM »
I love this thread.

I recently signed up for the Chase Freedom credit card to get the $150 bonus for $500 spend in first 3 months. You also get $25 for adding an authorized user if they make 1 purchase in the first 3 months.

i planned to put the lowest-possible purchase on the second authorized user card to get the $25. I set up a coffee meeting with a friend who works at an institution I want to get hired at. He picked the coffee spot. To my dismay, the place was cash-only b/c of CC machine issues. I was looking forward to using the card all week. Now I have to find another almost free item to get the rewards. I quit drinking coffee (cutting my almost $1500/year latte habit. Have to wait for a small cheap purchase but I pretty much buy nothing. Darn.

Anyone want to grab a coffee on me? I'm in NYC :)

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2638 on: April 15, 2016, 05:58:03 PM »
I felt a bit odd buying my second drying rack, but I'm right at home here.

I need to add a second drying rack to my shopping list, too. One is not cutting it.

And I'm just me, I don't even have any kids, so I really don't know how you were making it work with 3 people's clothes to dry!

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2639 on: April 15, 2016, 09:40:21 PM »
I love this thread.

I recently signed up for the Chase Freedom credit card to get the $150 bonus for $500 spend in first 3 months. You also get $25 for adding an authorized user if they make 1 purchase in the first 3 months.

i planned to put the lowest-possible purchase on the second authorized user card to get the $25. I set up a coffee meeting with a friend who works at an institution I want to get hired at. He picked the coffee spot. To my dismay, the place was cash-only b/c of CC machine issues. I was looking forward to using the card all week. Now I have to find another almost free item to get the rewards. I quit drinking coffee (cutting my almost $1500/year latte habit. Have to wait for a small cheap purchase but I pretty much buy nothing. Darn.

Anyone want to grab a coffee on me? I'm in NYC :)

Just buy a $1 Amazon gc.

I've actually never bought anything on Amazon. Didn't even know that was a possibility. Thank you very much sir.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2640 on: April 16, 2016, 03:59:52 AM »
I felt a bit odd buying my second drying rack, but I'm right at home here.

I need to add a second drying rack to my shopping list, too. One is not cutting it.

And I'm just me, I don't even have any kids, so I really don't know how you were making it work with 3 people's clothes to dry!

Check out the Frost drying rack from Ikea. I saw it recommended on the BIFL Reddit and bought one recently after not-enough-drying-space frustrations. (We dry one load a week indoors.) It's great! I can easily fit an entire load of laundry on it and you can put it up in different configurations if you have less laundry and less space. It is stable and easy for one person to manage. Redditors suggested using the outer rails to hang clothes on hangers for even more space but we haven't needed to do that yet. (Just make sure you do it evenly on both sides for stability.)

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2641 on: April 16, 2016, 06:13:28 AM »
Check out the Frost drying rack from Ikea.

+1 on the Frost. Easy to use, stable, holds a ton of stuff. We have damp, damp winters here, and I have to leave stuff hanging for a while and make sure there's good air circulation, so I set up this rack in the hallway and it's good for a full load (although I hang my jeans elsewhere, because they take a LONG time to dry).
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2642 on: April 16, 2016, 06:16:01 AM »
I have weather envy. I see all these Mustachians who don't have or refuse to use a dryer. 

I put the sheets out on the line this week. They were out for 8 hours but were still damp when they came in and I had to put them in the dryer after all. The cold fingers before and after weren't worth it. AND it's started to snow again.

You're not alone.  Do you have any idea how much pollen wet clothes would absorb in the spring time?   That's just what my sinuses need, concentrated pollen all over me with no chance of escape.

Thanks to allergies and asthma, I can't do outdoor drying, ever. Not if I want to breathe.

I have allergies and asthma and I line dry outside in the northeast.  I don't think it's been worse since I've started doing it (but really, I've never been very good at determining cause and effect when it comes to my health).  When everything is mostly dry (maybe just collars, cuffs and the seams of jeans are still damp), I put it in the dryer for about 10 minutes.  My SO asked why I do that.  I told him, "To get rid of any dust or pollen the laundry picked up outside".  He replied, "Well, either that or you're cooking it onto the clothes."

So my question is:  Am I getting rid of the pollen by putting the clothes in the dryer for a few minute?  Or am I 'cooking it on'?  And if I'm cooking it on, does that kill the allergen?

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2643 on: April 16, 2016, 07:49:02 AM »
Not sure, but I know for dust allergies that dust mites and dust allergens are different things. Dust mites can be killed by heat or cold but the allergens are still there until you physically get them off (e.g. Hoovering) so you would still have symptoms. You don't "kill" allergens because they are not alive. My reckoning is that you are definitely not making it worse (at the very least you are just mixing the allergens around and putting them back onto the clothes) but depending on how the dryer works in terms of extraction you may not be making it better.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2644 on: April 16, 2016, 11:58:51 AM »
Back on topic...

Adjusted my tax withholdings last year so I wouldn't get such a big refund. Learned today that we will have to pay $2,400 to the U.S. Treasury, but still getting a state refund of about $1,000.  Celebrated because I didn't give Uncle Sam an interest free loan this year!

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2645 on: May 12, 2016, 05:43:04 PM »
So, not exactly a problem, but a weird combination of feeling poor and rich at the same time. We were making a spread sheet to track where our money is and how it is allocated. We are doing a decent job of saving, but for all the money we have in Vanguard and elsewhere, only $376 was free. The rest is earmarked for retirement or college. I felt a little like I failed the $400 test. My husband suggested we maybe keep a little more liquid in the future.

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« Reply #2646 on: May 12, 2016, 06:07:49 PM »
So, not exactly a problem, but a weird combination of feeling poor and rich at the same time. We were making a spread sheet to track where our money is and how it is allocated. We are doing a decent job of saving, but for all the money we have in Vanguard and elsewhere, only $376 was free. The rest is earmarked for retirement or college. I felt a little like I failed the $400 test. My husband suggested we maybe keep a little more liquid in the future.

Sure, but if you HAD to, you could pull money from one of your savings buckets.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2647 on: May 12, 2016, 07:38:44 PM »
Yeah, of course. That's why I said it wasn't really a problem, more like the psychological impact of partitioning up my money was more profound than I realized. Definitely a bit of cognitive dissonance in looking at reasonable account balances, but feeling like I had very very little.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2648 on: May 12, 2016, 07:40:46 PM »
Probably already been said, but my #1 mustachian people problem is without consumer debt I no longer have the satisfaction of seeing it get paid down so my gross vs net worth ratio doesn't improve nearly as quickly anymore since I don't plan to pay off the mortgage early.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #2649 on: May 12, 2016, 07:51:33 PM »
My MPP is that my brother-in-law is on Wheel of Fortune tomorrow night, but we long ago eliminated cable (or any way to watch live tv), and we're too cheap to go out to a sports bar and demand that they show it. Fortunately, some friends who still have real TV came through, and we'll get a nice cheap bit of socializing in too. #mustachianwin