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« Reply #7900 on: September 01, 2020, 05:54:10 AM »
Reminds me of all the DOD contractor laptops i've seen where they paid someone to take the camera out... I wonder if they had to pay someone to put some of them back in this year...

No, they won't do that.   No way.   Those computers, wherever they were and however they were being used, weren't supposed to have cameras and that wouldn't change.

Instead, they would buy new computers and place them someplace that didn't have to be as secured.

No, they would ask for bids on supplying X number of new computers.  Three to six months later, those computers will arrive.  In the meantime the employees will be expected to make do with what they've got.  For most, that's going to mean scrounging up a headphone/microphone combo and maybe an external camera.  If there's not any in the warehouse then the next course of action is to suck up to the IT department to see if anyone has any in their personal stash that they would be willing to give you.   

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« Reply #7901 on: September 01, 2020, 07:36:44 AM »
Reminds me of all the DOD contractor laptops i've seen where they paid someone to take the camera out... I wonder if they had to pay someone to put some of them back in this year...

No, they won't do that.   No way.   Those computers, wherever they were and however they were being used, weren't supposed to have cameras and that wouldn't change.

Instead, they would buy new computers and place them someplace that didn't have to be as secured.

No, they would ask for bids on supplying X number of new computers.  Three to six months later, those computers will arrive.  In the meantime the employees will be expected to make do with what they've got.  For most, that's going to mean scrounging up a headphone/microphone combo and maybe an external camera.  If there's not any in the warehouse then the next course of action is to suck up to the IT department to see if anyone has any in their personal stash that they would be willing to give you.

Just finished a command post exercise (think of a simulation war game, but nobody has to leave the building because it's all on computers). While everyone is doing their bit for the exercise, I'm cleaning the supply room and cracking open boxes that hadn't been touched in three years (these exercises usually means nobody is bothering me and I have time to kill).  Every other day somebody came to me looking for a headset, but alas I've been tapped out for weeks and they should have figured out what they needed a while ago.  My little cleanup exercise has me emptying file cabinets and desk drawers from vacant cubicles all over the building.  Under the rats nest of derelict cables in these people's offices what do I find? More headsets!

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« Reply #7902 on: September 01, 2020, 08:25:10 AM »
I forgot that the Food Bank doesn't count as an online purchase (probably because it is categorized as education). If I had known, I could have gotten an extra .25% back. Actually, if I had known, a different donation would have received this online bonus, so the losses, while not budget breaking, would have paid for our recent meal out.

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« Reply #7903 on: September 01, 2020, 11:16:29 AM »
In windows there are security settings that have to be set correctly to get the camera and microphone to work with zoom and other web apps.    You'll have to google it.

I worked as IT help desk support for a small biz for 18 years alongside many other job titles, so I don't really need the "google it" level of advice... but thanks anyway. I did try to set the settings correctly, but it didn't do what it was supposed to and I didn't have a lot of time to figure it out pre-meeting (and I haven't needed it since). I'll give it another shot at some point before actually spending money on something.

Knowing me, I probably unchecked the option to include a webcam when I ordered it to save $7... :-P  Who knew we'd all be spending our lives in video conferences in 2020.

Reminds me of all the DOD contractor laptops i've seen where they paid someone to take the camera out... I wonder if they had to pay someone to put some of them back in this year...

Nope. The commo team just gets a lot of grief for not having a stockpile of webcams on the shelf a week after Teams was authorized and half the building is ordered to telework.

Also, I'm trying to buy about $1 million worth of new laptops that have very specific traits. The product description states that there's no wireless three times in the same paragraph.

As a former nuclear power contract worker, I can sympathize.   
I once had to _beg_ our cell phone provider to ensure that NO CAMERA was installed in my phone. 
At the time, nuclear power plants were pretty paranoid about any cameras (special tag on camera, high-level permission etc).   
Same with our laptops, which we though was great, since we had them in our hotel rooms also.  No one wants the possibility of seeing a nuke worker in less than underwear. 
Underwear is a common thing at some nuke plants, especially non-US countries. -- this gives me the idea for a thread "What is the weirdest thing that you had to do at work." 

Turned up to 11, when our IT guy had to physically remove the wifi radio from my laptop to go to a Department of Energy reactor.
Why?  In the second sub-basement where we were set up, there was a "computer room" that we _might_ have picked up some signals from a computer from the EBCDIC (60's) era (my supposition).
No one examined the laptop on entry....

We visited a nuclear power plant that has been taken out of action and is now thorn down. Because of the regulations, you were not allowed to have your cell phone on. We got the visit as a courtesy as part of our company did some work there. Believe it or not, but one of our colleagues just had to text with her kids during the two hour visit. It is pretty embarrassing to see a 40+ persons told to not use their phone while in a security zone.

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« Reply #7904 on: September 01, 2020, 11:28:40 AM »
In windows there are security settings that have to be set correctly to get the camera and microphone to work with zoom and other web apps.    You'll have to google it.

I worked as IT help desk support for a small biz for 18 years alongside many other job titles, so I don't really need the "google it" level of advice... but thanks anyway. I did try to set the settings correctly, but it didn't do what it was supposed to and I didn't have a lot of time to figure it out pre-meeting (and I haven't needed it since). I'll give it another shot at some point before actually spending money on something.

Knowing me, I probably unchecked the option to include a webcam when I ordered it to save $7... :-P  Who knew we'd all be spending our lives in video conferences in 2020.

Reminds me of all the DOD contractor laptops i've seen where they paid someone to take the camera out... I wonder if they had to pay someone to put some of them back in this year...

Nope. The commo team just gets a lot of grief for not having a stockpile of webcams on the shelf a week after Teams was authorized and half the building is ordered to telework.

Also, I'm trying to buy about $1 million worth of new laptops that have very specific traits. The product description states that there's no wireless three times in the same paragraph.

As a former nuclear power contract worker, I can sympathize.   
I once had to _beg_ our cell phone provider to ensure that NO CAMERA was installed in my phone. 
At the time, nuclear power plants were pretty paranoid about any cameras (special tag on camera, high-level permission etc).   
Same with our laptops, which we though was great, since we had them in our hotel rooms also.  No one wants the possibility of seeing a nuke worker in less than underwear. 
Underwear is a common thing at some nuke plants, especially non-US countries. -- this gives me the idea for a thread "What is the weirdest thing that you had to do at work." 

Turned up to 11, when our IT guy had to physically remove the wifi radio from my laptop to go to a Department of Energy reactor.
Why?  In the second sub-basement where we were set up, there was a "computer room" that we _might_ have picked up some signals from a computer from the EBCDIC (60's) era (my supposition).
No one examined the laptop on entry....

We visited a nuclear power plant that has been taken out of action and is now thorn down. Because of the regulations, you were not allowed to have your cell phone on. We got the visit as a courtesy as part of our company did some work there. Believe it or not, but one of our colleagues just had to text with her kids during the two hour visit. It is pretty embarrassing to see a 40+ persons told to not use their phone while in a security zone.

Even if the plant is down, until the regulatory authorities officially de-licence the facility, all the safety systems needed for operation must be available. 
In operating plants, the cell phone non-use areas are often painted on the floor around scram (shutdown) sensitive equipment. And good luck getting a signal out of a rebar-concrete building.

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« Reply #7905 on: September 01, 2020, 11:35:28 AM »
In windows there are security settings that have to be set correctly to get the camera and microphone to work with zoom and other web apps.    You'll have to google it.

I worked as IT help desk support for a small biz for 18 years alongside many other job titles, so I don't really need the "google it" level of advice... but thanks anyway. I did try to set the settings correctly, but it didn't do what it was supposed to and I didn't have a lot of time to figure it out pre-meeting (and I haven't needed it since). I'll give it another shot at some point before actually spending money on something.

Knowing me, I probably unchecked the option to include a webcam when I ordered it to save $7... :-P  Who knew we'd all be spending our lives in video conferences in 2020.

Reminds me of all the DOD contractor laptops i've seen where they paid someone to take the camera out... I wonder if they had to pay someone to put some of them back in this year...

Nope. The commo team just gets a lot of grief for not having a stockpile of webcams on the shelf a week after Teams was authorized and half the building is ordered to telework.

Also, I'm trying to buy about $1 million worth of new laptops that have very specific traits. The product description states that there's no wireless three times in the same paragraph.

As a former nuclear power contract worker, I can sympathize.   
I once had to _beg_ our cell phone provider to ensure that NO CAMERA was installed in my phone. 
At the time, nuclear power plants were pretty paranoid about any cameras (special tag on camera, high-level permission etc).   
Same with our laptops, which we though was great, since we had them in our hotel rooms also.  No one wants the possibility of seeing a nuke worker in less than underwear. 
Underwear is a common thing at some nuke plants, especially non-US countries. -- this gives me the idea for a thread "What is the weirdest thing that you had to do at work." 

Turned up to 11, when our IT guy had to physically remove the wifi radio from my laptop to go to a Department of Energy reactor.
Why?  In the second sub-basement where we were set up, there was a "computer room" that we _might_ have picked up some signals from a computer from the EBCDIC (60's) era (my supposition).
No one examined the laptop on entry....

We visited a nuclear power plant that has been taken out of action and is now thorn down. Because of the regulations, you were not allowed to have your cell phone on. We got the visit as a courtesy as part of our company did some work there. Believe it or not, but one of our colleagues just had to text with her kids during the two hour visit. It is pretty embarrassing to see a 40+ persons told to not use their phone while in a security zone.

Even if the plant is down, until the regulatory authorities officially de-licence the facility, all the safety systems needed for operation must be available. 
In operating plants, the cell phone non-use areas are often painted on the floor around scram (shutdown) sensitive equipment. And good luck getting a signal out of a rebar-concrete building.

I know. It was clearly stated in several places that you were not allowed to use phones! I think she got a signal because I saw here using it.

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« Reply #7906 on: September 01, 2020, 11:46:17 AM »


I know. It was clearly stated in several places that you were not allowed to use phones! I think she got a signal because I saw here using it.

I am picturing someone furiously texting the kids, cursing them out for not responding....

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« Reply #7907 on: September 01, 2020, 11:59:34 AM »


I know. It was clearly stated in several places that you were not allowed to use phones! I think she got a signal because I saw here using it.

I am picturing someone furiously texting the kids, cursing them out for not responding....
So am I.. :-)
Did I mention that nuke plants are in the middle of F...ing nowhere? Even in Europe.
I once was trying to make a plane reservation, no cell service inside the office building, outside landlines restricted use. 
So I went outside in 25įF (-4įC) breezy weather, got almost to the completion of the reservation, and lost signal.
Tried again, nearly same issue.  A coworker came out and said, "you're blue, get inside and warm up".  My hands were starting to lose coordination.
Meanwhile, another of my colleagues is out smoking in that weather in a t-shirt and was apparently totally comfortable.

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« Reply #7908 on: September 01, 2020, 12:03:47 PM »
Reminds me of all the DOD contractor laptops i've seen where they paid someone to take the camera out... I wonder if they had to pay someone to put some of them back in this year...

No, they won't do that.   No way.   Those computers, wherever they were and however they were being used, weren't supposed to have cameras and that wouldn't change.

Instead, they would buy new computers and place them someplace that didn't have to be as secured.

No, they would ask for bids on supplying X number of new computers.  Three to six months later, those computers will arrive.  In the meantime the employees will be expected to make do with what they've got.  For most, that's going to mean scrounging up a headphone/microphone combo and maybe an external camera.  If there's not any in the warehouse then the next course of action is to suck up to the IT department to see if anyone has any in their personal stash that they would be willing to give you.

Just finished a command post exercise (think of a simulation war game, but nobody has to leave the building because it's all on computers). While everyone is doing their bit for the exercise, I'm cleaning the supply room and cracking open boxes that hadn't been touched in three years (these exercises usually means nobody is bothering me and I have time to kill).  Every other day somebody came to me looking for a headset, but alas I've been tapped out for weeks and they should have figured out what they needed a while ago.  My little cleanup exercise has me emptying file cabinets and desk drawers from vacant cubicles all over the building.  Under the rats nest of derelict cables in these people's offices what do I find? More headsets!

We found a whole stash of extra headphones too.  Except they had dual jacks (one for the headphone and one for the microphone).  Every machine we have since the last required upgrade has a single combo jack (where the headphone and microphone run through the same 3mm jack).  If there were ever a time when someone needed Radio Shack.  We ended up ordering enough adapters from somewhere to make these work.  I'm not sure it was any cheaper than just ordering new headphones, but at least we didn't just throw them all out.

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« Reply #7909 on: September 01, 2020, 12:48:45 PM »


I know. It was clearly stated in several places that you were not allowed to use phones! I think she got a signal because I saw here using it.

I am picturing someone furiously texting the kids, cursing them out for not responding....
So am I.. :-)
Did I mention that nuke plants are in the middle of F...ing nowhere? Even in Europe.
I once was trying to make a plane reservation, no cell service inside the office building, outside landlines restricted use. 
So I went outside in 25įF (-4įC) breezy weather, got almost to the completion of the reservation, and lost signal.
Tried again, nearly same issue.  A coworker came out and said, "you're blue, get inside and warm up".  My hands were starting to lose coordination.
Meanwhile, once of my smoking colleagues is in a t-shirt and was apparently totally comfortable.

Ah the joys of trying to get signal in remote locations. :) Maybe if I climb that tree over there I'll have enough signal to book my flight.

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« Reply #7910 on: September 01, 2020, 10:51:56 PM »
Reminds me of all the DOD contractor laptops i've seen where they paid someone to take the camera out... I wonder if they had to pay someone to put some of them back in this year...

No, they won't do that.   No way.   Those computers, wherever they were and however they were being used, weren't supposed to have cameras and that wouldn't change.

Instead, they would buy new computers and place them someplace that didn't have to be as secured.

No, they would ask for bids on supplying X number of new computers.  Three to six months later, those computers will arrive.  In the meantime the employees will be expected to make do with what they've got.  For most, that's going to mean scrounging up a headphone/microphone combo and maybe an external camera.  If there's not any in the warehouse then the next course of action is to suck up to the IT department to see if anyone has any in their personal stash that they would be willing to give you.

Just finished a command post exercise (think of a simulation war game, but nobody has to leave the building because it's all on computers). While everyone is doing their bit for the exercise, I'm cleaning the supply room and cracking open boxes that hadn't been touched in three years (these exercises usually means nobody is bothering me and I have time to kill).  Every other day somebody came to me looking for a headset, but alas I've been tapped out for weeks and they should have figured out what they needed a while ago.  My little cleanup exercise has me emptying file cabinets and desk drawers from vacant cubicles all over the building.  Under the rats nest of derelict cables in these people's offices what do I find? More headsets!

We found a whole stash of extra headphones too.  Except they had dual jacks (one for the headphone and one for the microphone).  Every machine we have since the last required upgrade has a single combo jack (where the headphone and microphone run through the same 3mm jack).  If there were ever a time when someone needed Radio Shack.  We ended up ordering enough adapters from somewhere to make these work.  I'm not sure it was any cheaper than just ordering new headphones, but at least we didn't just throw them all out.

Same situation here, except no adapters in sight. It's USB or nothing now.

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« Reply #7911 on: September 02, 2020, 10:45:48 AM »


I know. It was clearly stated in several places that you were not allowed to use phones! I think she got a signal because I saw here using it.

I am picturing someone furiously texting the kids, cursing them out for not responding....
So am I.. :-)
Did I mention that nuke plants are in the middle of F...ing nowhere? Even in Europe.
I once was trying to make a plane reservation, no cell service inside the office building, outside landlines restricted use. 
So I went outside in 25įF (-4įC) breezy weather, got almost to the completion of the reservation, and lost signal.
Tried again, nearly same issue.  A coworker came out and said, "you're blue, get inside and warm up".  My hands were starting to lose coordination.
Meanwhile, once of my smoking colleagues is in a t-shirt and was apparently totally comfortable.

Ah the joys of trying to get signal in remote locations. :) Maybe if I climb that tree over there I'll have enough signal to book my flight.

In the mountains maybe, but I would say it is rare at least in Sweden to be without cellphone signal. My parents live in a little village in the middle of nowhere and there are three operators there. Two from Sweden and at least one from the neighbouring country., They have taken away the landline. There are more and more locations were the landline is replaced with cellphone. My father was annoyingly picking  berries in the forest and talking in the phone. When I was out of sight he called me to ask me were I was.

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« Reply #7912 on: September 02, 2020, 12:31:46 PM »
My carriers claimed coverage in my state. They are a tad optimistic with their map... Other carriers are similar although there is one in particular with wider voice coverage but notably less data coverage. I don't mind the blank space though. No one is talking on the phone in my berry patch.

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« Reply #7913 on: September 03, 2020, 05:10:32 PM »
I gave the guy behind the counter at Costco a pretty red, white and blue piece of paper and he handed me back a bunch of dull green papers. Does anyone remember what I can exchange dull green papers for?

The executive membership earned us a whopping  2 dollars and some odd cents above its premium over the past year. But hey, where else am I going to get 3% these days?

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« Reply #7914 on: September 03, 2020, 05:23:14 PM »
I gave the guy behind the counter at Costco a pretty red, white and blue piece of paper and he handed me back a bunch of dull green papers. Does anyone remember what I can exchange dull green papers for?

You can put them in a machine at the bank and they'll give you some numbers on a screen.

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« Reply #7915 on: September 04, 2020, 07:41:30 AM »
I gave the guy behind the counter at Costco a pretty red, white and blue piece of paper and he handed me back a bunch of dull green papers. Does anyone remember what I can exchange dull green papers for?

The executive membership earned us a whopping  2 dollars and some odd cents above its premium over the past year. But hey, where else am I going to get 3% these days?
You just need to spend more at Costco, lol. I hope you straight-up cashed that rebate check. If you spend it on merch you don't get the rebate on the items you are buying. Cash the whole check, then follow Slicey's instructions..

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« Reply #7916 on: September 04, 2020, 07:53:51 AM »
I gave the guy behind the counter at Costco a pretty red, white and blue piece of paper and he handed me back a bunch of dull green papers. Does anyone remember what I can exchange dull green papers for?

You can put them in a machine at the bank and they'll give you some numbers on a screen.

Oh! Numbers on a screen are fun! They tend to change a lot!


You just need to spend more at Costco, lol. I hope you straight-up cashed that rebate check. If you spend it on merch you don't get the rebate on the items you are buying. Cash the whole check, then follow Slicey's instructions..

Our Costco won't let you pay for your merchandise with the red, white and blue paper. The cashiers give you a lecture about how you are missing out on all your rewards if you do that and send you to customer service. Rest assured, I use my BoA card which gives me 3.5% back at wholesale warehouses for the actual merchandise.

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« Reply #7917 on: September 04, 2020, 08:13:57 AM »
Two MPP's today:

1)  Tax and employer-paid medical insurance dominate our expenses so much that everything else is crammed into less than half of Quicken's standard pie chart.

2)  Saw an article about "Super Savers" on CNBC.  Sent it to DW.  She said she we obviously don't qualify because save too much and that what they call "Super Savers" is what she always thought was "normal".  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/super-savers-make-these-sacrifices-to-help-them-reach-their-goals.html?&qsearchterm=super%20saver
I love how that article lists "no housecleaner" as a "sacrifice" --as if every normal household hires someone to clean their house for them.

I eye-rolled at every "sacrifice" they listed except for high stress work.  Ridiculousness article

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« Reply #7918 on: September 04, 2020, 08:48:09 AM »
My MPP of the day... My employer went full time WFH so I no longer have commuting expenses. I figured I'd increase the direct deposit to my investment accounts by a similar amount - if I don't need to spend it, I might as well save it. Unfortunately, our payroll dept is more efficient than I thought and they wound up getting the change in for this pay period rather than the next so when the deposit hit I hadn't updated the auto-invest percentages yet and things got messed up. I'll have to keep an eye on the IRA to make sure I don't over-contribute. Oh, the huge manatee.

As a side note, I really don't like the way Vanguard handles direct deposits. It works but seems really kludgey.                                         

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« Reply #7919 on: September 04, 2020, 11:15:36 AM »
I gave the guy behind the counter at Costco a pretty red, white and blue piece of paper and he handed me back a bunch of dull green papers. Does anyone remember what I can exchange dull green papers for?

The executive membership earned us a whopping  2 dollars and some odd cents above its premium over the past year. But hey, where else am I going to get 3% these days?
You just need to spend more at Costco, lol. I hope you straight-up cashed that rebate check. If you spend it on merch you don't get the rebate on the items you are buying. Cash the whole check, then follow Slicey's instructions..

Typically around here it's much faster to go through one of the checkout lines with a single, low-cost item - pay with the rebate check, get the rest back as change.

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« Reply #7920 on: September 04, 2020, 11:34:45 AM »
I gave the guy behind the counter at Costco a pretty red, white and blue piece of paper and he handed me back a bunch of dull green papers. Does anyone remember what I can exchange dull green papers for?

The executive membership earned us a whopping  2 dollars and some odd cents above its premium over the past year. But hey, where else am I going to get 3% these days?
You just need to spend more at Costco, lol. I hope you straight-up cashed that rebate check. If you spend it on merch you don't get the rebate on the items you are buying. Cash the whole check, then follow Slicey's instructions..

Typically around here it's much faster to go through one of the checkout lines with a single, low-cost item - pay with the rebate check, get the rest back as change.

How is that faster?  You can just cash the whole check at any costco check out line.  Pay your entire order with your card, then in a separate transaction cash the check and get the entire check amount as change. 

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« Reply #7921 on: September 04, 2020, 11:55:26 AM »
I gave the guy behind the counter at Costco a pretty red, white and blue piece of paper and he handed me back a bunch of dull green papers. Does anyone remember what I can exchange dull green papers for?

The executive membership earned us a whopping  2 dollars and some odd cents above its premium over the past year. But hey, where else am I going to get 3% these days?
You just need to spend more at Costco, lol. I hope you straight-up cashed that rebate check. If you spend it on merch you don't get the rebate on the items you are buying. Cash the whole check, then follow Slicey's instructions..

Typically around here it's much faster to go through one of the checkout lines with a single, low-cost item - pay with the rebate check, get the rest back as change.

How is that faster?  You can just cash the whole check at any costco check out line.  Pay your entire order with your card, then in a separate transaction cash the check and get the entire check amount as change.

Not around here - you have to go to customer service unless you use it for a purchase (which they try to talk you out of, as noted above). When the cc rewards come, they even set up portable counters to take up the burden. You have to stand in one line to get your stuff and a separate line to get your cash. At least yesterday there wasn't a line at customer service.

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« Reply #7922 on: September 04, 2020, 11:59:07 AM »
Oh that's odd.  I've always been able to redeem it at the normal register in a separate transaction. 

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« Reply #7923 on: September 04, 2020, 01:48:38 PM »
Oh that's odd.  I've always been able to redeem it at the normal register in a separate transaction.
It depends on how big your check is and how much cash they have in the drawer. Our Costco is a Top-10 busy store. They do all three options. Checkout, dedicated checkstand (typically the last one), and member service.

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« Reply #7924 on: September 05, 2020, 01:48:11 AM »
Germany is so boring! If we get money from Aunt Merkel it just lands in our bank accounts and that is it.

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« Reply #7925 on: September 05, 2020, 02:25:51 AM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

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« Reply #7926 on: September 05, 2020, 05:22:50 AM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

Keep drifting

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« Reply #7927 on: September 05, 2020, 07:05:35 AM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

It depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how close you are to a Costco. The membership costs money, the membership with rewards costs even more. So if it isn't going to save you money on a regular basis, keep drifting.

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« Reply #7928 on: September 05, 2020, 07:39:52 AM »
We are FIREd and don't have dental insurance anymore (haven't for over a year), though DH has kept the same dentist. 

DH wanted to see if his dental appointment was still on due to COVID and they hadn't called to confirm or tell him if there was a special song and dance to be seen. 

When he called the auto message had two option Insurance A or Insurance B and that was it.  He randomly picked one, but then couldn't get any further.  No way to get to a person. 

So it looks like he will be finding a new dentist.

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« Reply #7929 on: September 05, 2020, 08:20:40 AM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

It depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how close you are to a Costco. The membership costs money, the membership with rewards costs even more. So if it isn't going to save you money on a regular basis, keep drifting.

I found absolutely nothing of worth to myself at Costco that I couldn't get at Aldi for cheaper or the same price (looking for groceries primarily). I think it's a bit of a racket, myself. But I also might not have the same shopping preferences as others who do find value in it. I also found that Aldi had similar prices per item/pound/etc while not requiring me to stock up on a years' worth of that item at a time, which saves me space in my refrigerator/pantry and reduces likelihood of spoilage.

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« Reply #7930 on: September 05, 2020, 08:35:02 AM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

It depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how close you are to a Costco. The membership costs money, the membership with rewards costs even more. So if it isn't going to save you money on a regular basis, keep drifting.

I found absolutely nothing of worth to myself at Costco that I couldn't get at Aldi for cheaper or the same price (looking for groceries primarily). I think it's a bit of a racket, myself. But I also might not have the same shopping preferences as others who do find value in it. I also found that Aldi had similar prices per item/pound/etc while not requiring me to stock up on a years' worth of that item at a time, which saves me space in my refrigerator/pantry and reduces likelihood of spoilage.

I did a four store price book when Aldi's and another discount store opened near us. It lead me to divide our shopping between Costco and a regular grocery store.

Of course, around here just the gas will save you more than the membership. There is one place on the other side of town that I can sometimes get it cheaper with the grocery points, but that only helps if I am going to that part of town. anyway. Even the military gas is sometimes more expensive, but folks choose it because they get to stick it to the man. Which seems an odd attitude for the military...

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« Reply #7931 on: September 05, 2020, 10:55:49 AM »
Of course, around here just the gas will save you more than the membership. There is one place on the other side of town that I can sometimes get it cheaper with the grocery points, but that only helps if I am going to that part of town. anyway. Even the military gas is sometimes more expensive, but folks choose it because they get to stick it to the man. Which seems an odd attitude for the military...
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« Reply #7932 on: September 05, 2020, 11:15:52 AM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

It depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how close you are to a Costco. The membership costs money, the membership with rewards costs even more. So if it isn't going to save you money on a regular basis, keep drifting.

I found absolutely nothing of worth to myself at Costco that I couldn't get at Aldi for cheaper or the same price (looking for groceries primarily). I think it's a bit of a racket, myself. But I also might not have the same shopping preferences as others who do find value in it. I also found that Aldi had similar prices per item/pound/etc while not requiring me to stock up on a years' worth of that item at a time, which saves me space in my refrigerator/pantry and reduces likelihood of spoilage.
I would sell a sibling or two to have an aldi here. Never heard back from corporate.

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« Reply #7933 on: September 05, 2020, 11:29:58 AM »
Oh that's odd.  I've always been able to redeem it at the normal register in a separate transaction.

Yep, as noted - my local Costco does not like to cash out the check at the normal register. You have to go to a separate register (possibly waiting for a cashier) - then wait for a red vest to come validate the check.

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« Reply #7934 on: September 05, 2020, 12:18:29 PM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

It depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how close you are to a Costco. The membership costs money, the membership with rewards costs even more. So if it isn't going to save you money on a regular basis, keep drifting.

I found absolutely nothing of worth to myself at Costco that I couldn't get at Aldi for cheaper or the same price (looking for groceries primarily). I think it's a bit of a racket, myself. But I also might not have the same shopping preferences as others who do find value in it. I also found that Aldi had similar prices per item/pound/etc while not requiring me to stock up on a years' worth of that item at a time, which saves me space in my refrigerator/pantry and reduces likelihood of spoilage.

I did a four store price book when Aldi's and another discount store opened near us. It lead me to divide our shopping between Costco and a regular grocery store.


Interesting.  We did the same thing a few years ago -- four store price book -- that led us to divide between Aldi and Trader Joe's.   I'm overdue for updating the prices, so I may go over to Costco and see what's in there.   I suspect I'll end up like @maisymouser and decide to skip it (the idea of having to buy huge quantities isn't appealing) but I'll keep an open mind. 

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« Reply #7935 on: September 05, 2020, 02:29:45 PM »

I would sell a sibling or two to have an aldi here. Never heard back from corporate.

You need better siblings! That's your MPP, right?  ;)

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« Reply #7936 on: September 05, 2020, 03:02:29 PM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

It depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how close you are to a Costco. The membership costs money, the membership with rewards costs even more. So if it isn't going to save you money on a regular basis, keep drifting.

I found absolutely nothing of worth to myself at Costco that I couldn't get at Aldi for cheaper or the same price (looking for groceries primarily). I think it's a bit of a racket, myself. But I also might not have the same shopping preferences as others who do find value in it. I also found that Aldi had similar prices per item/pound/etc while not requiring me to stock up on a years' worth of that item at a time, which saves me space in my refrigerator/pantry and reduces likelihood of spoilage.

I did a four store price book when Aldi's and another discount store opened near us. It lead me to divide our shopping between Costco and a regular grocery store.


Interesting.  We did the same thing a few years ago -- four store price book -- that led us to divide between Aldi and Trader Joe's.   I'm overdue for updating the prices, so I may go over to Costco and see what's in there.   I suspect I'll end up like @maisymouser and decide to skip it (the idea of having to buy huge quantities isn't appealing) but I'll keep an open mind.

I went to our local Costco a couple of times with a friend, but when Trader Joe's opened in town I realized I could get comparably priced cheese and nuts (our two big-ticket items) for about the same price without having to buy vast quantities.

I would actually buy flour and beans in vast quantities if I could get what I want (organic black beans, white whole wheat flour, or at least ub white, and crushed canned tomatoes) but our Costco doesn't stock those items. Fortunately, I can pick them up at quite reasonable prices from stores that are closer.

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« Reply #7937 on: September 05, 2020, 07:07:48 PM »
My problem for the day is Iíve read this whole discussion about Costco and have absolutely no idea what yíall are talking about.  Never been to Costco and donít know what a rebate check is.  Iím mildly wondering if I SHOULD know what these things are, or if I can/should keep drifting forward in life without that knowledge . . .

It depends on what you eat, how much you eat, and how close you are to a Costco. The membership costs money, the membership with rewards costs even more. So if it isn't going to save you money on a regular basis, keep drifting.

I found absolutely nothing of worth to myself at Costco that I couldn't get at Aldi for cheaper or the same price (looking for groceries primarily). I think it's a bit of a racket, myself. But I also might not have the same shopping preferences as others who do find value in it. I also found that Aldi had similar prices per item/pound/etc while not requiring me to stock up on a years' worth of that item at a time, which saves me space in my refrigerator/pantry and reduces likelihood of spoilage.

I did a four store price book when Aldi's and another discount store opened near us. It lead me to divide our shopping between Costco and a regular grocery store.


Interesting.  We did the same thing a few years ago -- four store price book -- that led us to divide between Aldi and Trader Joe's.   I'm overdue for updating the prices, so I may go over to Costco and see what's in there.   I suspect I'll end up like @maisymouser and decide to skip it (the idea of having to buy huge quantities isn't appealing) but I'll keep an open mind.

There's a quarterly price book available online.  Obviously, the prices aren't exactly the same in every warehouse, but it can give you a general idea:

https://practical-stewardship.com/food/costco-quarterly-natural-organic-price-list-update/

Plenty of stuff in there that is no deal at all.  Very little is what you would call overpriced, though, since Costco typically has a maximum markup of 15%.

I've been buying less and less at Costco since I discovered a restaurant supply store down the street from Costco and hit that first (although plenty of stuff at the supply store is legitimately overpriced and you have to know what not to buy).

Also alternate with Trader Joe's.
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« Reply #7938 on: September 05, 2020, 09:03:00 PM »
I would actually buy flour and beans in vast quantities if I could get what I want (organic black beans, white whole wheat flour, or at least ub white, and crushed canned tomatoes) but our Costco doesn't stock those items. Fortunately, I can pick them up at quite reasonable prices from stores that are closer.
I'm surprised your Costco doesn't stock these - they only have the unbleached white flour at mine but we get those three items routinely! I wouldn't have expected regional variation on DRY STAPLES.

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« Reply #7939 on: September 06, 2020, 02:29:02 AM »
I would actually buy flour and beans in vast quantities if I could get what I want (organic black beans, white whole wheat flour, or at least ub white, and crushed canned tomatoes) but our Costco doesn't stock those items. Fortunately, I can pick them up at quite reasonable prices from stores that are closer.
I'm surprised your Costco doesn't stock these - they only have the unbleached white flour at mine but we get those three items routinely! I wouldn't have expected regional variation on DRY STAPLES.

There's definitely a difference even between nearby cities.  One time I went to the one slightly farther out and was surprised to see a lawnmower and sliding glass door for sale.

My Costco doesn't usually carry dry beans, but flour and rice are mostly available.

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« Reply #7940 on: September 08, 2020, 11:56:50 PM »
A bestselling book I just saw featured in a list of library offerings is titled Fierce, Free and full of FIRE.

My MPP: Seeing the word FIRE in large print, all caps and automatically reading it as an acronym.

My other MPP: Feeling let down upon realizing it's not.

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« Reply #7941 on: September 09, 2020, 05:45:19 AM »
Oh that's odd.  I've always been able to redeem it at the normal register in a separate transaction.

Yep, as noted - my local Costco does not like to cash out the check at the normal register. You have to go to a separate register (possibly waiting for a cashier) - then wait for person in a red vest to come validate the check.
FTFY

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« Reply #7942 on: September 09, 2020, 08:23:27 AM »
Oh that's odd.  I've always been able to redeem it at the normal register in a separate transaction.

Yep, as noted - my local Costco does not like to cash out the check at the normal register. You have to go to a separate register (possibly waiting for a cashier) - then wait for person in a red vest to come validate the check.
FTFY

Nothing wrong with metonymy.

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« Reply #7943 on: September 09, 2020, 09:20:55 AM »
Oh that's odd.  I've always been able to redeem it at the normal register in a separate transaction.

Yep, as noted - my local Costco does not like to cash out the check at the normal register. You have to go to a separate register (possibly waiting for a cashier) - then wait for person in a red vest to come validate the check.
FTFY

Nope. That's not the terminology used in my Costco, thus it is an incorrect "correction".

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« Reply #7944 on: September 09, 2020, 01:01:38 PM »
Oh that's odd.  I've always been able to redeem it at the normal register in a separate transaction.

Yep, as noted - my local Costco does not like to cash out the check at the normal register. You have to go to a separate register (possibly waiting for a cashier) - then wait for person in a red vest to come validate the check.
FTFY

Nope. That's not the terminology used in my Costco, thus it is an incorrect "correction".
My brother has worked for Costco for almost thirty years. They're known for treating their people well. I suspect if they say it, it's said jokingly, by individuals. It is not their corporate culture. The people who wear red vests are Supervisors and paid accordingly. No member should treat them as a "vest" instead of a person. Therefore, I do not stand corrected. No need for you or anyone to treat a hard working person who busts tail* during a pandemic so that you and your family can get the things you need like anything less that a full human being.

Did you touch a nerve? You bet your ass you did. I am grateful for every single person I see working in any store anywhere during this pandemic. I don't hesitate to look them in the eye and thank them. At Costco, every single person wears a name badge. Look at it. Greet them and thank them by name. You'd be surprised at the results.

Fun fact: at Costco when the pandemic began, all employees over 65 were told to stay home with pay. Anyone younger who had compromised immune systems (as my brother does) were given the option of working or staying home with pay. My brother knew his job was important, so he has continued to work through the pandemic. Costco has been very accommodating about shifting his duties so he has minimal member contact. This means he goes to work at two in the morning. I think he's a hero in his own small way, but to you he and his colleagues are "red vests". /end rant

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« Reply #7945 on: September 09, 2020, 01:13:45 PM »
I think he's a hero in his own small way, but to you he and his colleagues are "red vests". /end rant

I consider the whole Costco team to be heroes, but certain functions can only be performed by the ones wearing a red vest. There is nothing dehumanizing about the use of metonymy in this case, because we are distinguishing between humans all being treated humanly (YAY COSTCO!) but with different functions, rather than using functions to dehumanize the individuals.

And yes, when I went today for both a return and to report two items being double scanned, I was told "I can do the return, but you'll have to go over to the red vest for the refund of the other items."
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« Reply #7946 on: September 09, 2020, 01:34:37 PM »
Costco also took the boneheaded decision to force their corporate workforce to report to the office for weeks, ďin solidarity with employees in the storesĒ. They got a lot of deserved flak for that in the Seattle metro area.

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« Reply #7947 on: September 09, 2020, 01:39:06 PM »
Dicey, get over it. I know the names of half the employees at my Costco without looking at nametags and have been friendly/polite with most of them for years - not just during the pandemic.

"Red vest" is a reference to a specific job function, not devaluing them as people. It's a term routinely used by the front-line employees. Typically they don't need a specific person - anyone with a red vest has approval authority.

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« Reply #7948 on: September 09, 2020, 05:24:13 PM »
Dicey, get over it. I know the names of half the employees at my Costco without looking at nametags and have been friendly/polite with most of them for years - not just during the pandemic.

"Red vest" is a reference to a specific job function, not devaluing them as people. It's a term routinely used by the front-line employees. Typically they don't need a specific person - anyone with a red vest has approval authority.
I do a volunteer gig and I wear a vest. I am also a significant donor to the same program. It cracks me up that people look at the vest and not the face. When I greet them by name, because we actually know each other, it throws them every time.

Calling a human being a "red vest" as you did struck me as casually dehumanizing. I checked with my brother. He says they say "Ask for the person in a red vest." or "Look for someone in a red vest." Or, "Let me get someone who can help you" if they can't. People are not vests. Sounds like his Costco is a much nicer place to work than the one you have experience at.

Nothing to get over, IMO. Just a different point of view.

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« Reply #7949 on: September 09, 2020, 05:52:49 PM »
Dicey, get over it. I know the names of half the employees at my Costco without looking at nametags and have been friendly/polite with most of them for years - not just during the pandemic.

"Red vest" is a reference to a specific job function, not devaluing them as people. It's a term routinely used by the front-line employees. Typically they don't need a specific person - anyone with a red vest has approval authority.

I guess itís probably a little like only black people being allowed to use the n word.  Does anyone object when 911 dispatch says they are going to send a black and white to your location?  Does anyone object to The ďwhite coat investorĒ blog name?  Seriously asking... I always figured those Were in-joke references among colleagues.