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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7250 on: February 25, 2020, 05:21:59 PM »
Who tells their wife she smells off???.

An ex-husband

That said, some people may be more or less susceptible to pheromones but usually it makes your partner smell good, not bad

I hope when he told you that you smelled off, you countered with the fact that he sounded like a c**t

LOL, I wish I had. It's weird, though--he was really, really convinced that I had some kind of correctable health issue. He is now married to a very nice lady who I assume has a more compatible smell.

You did have a correctable health issue, one that millions around the world have - a fuckwit partner.

That made me LOL.

Haha that's good, but I'm not even joking. Bad marriages are responsible for huge stress and self esteem issues. Stress kills!

You are not wrong! Mustachianism is all about living your best life, right? So I am winning!

My MPP for the day is that it didn't even occur to me that driving my kids to school was a thing I could do, and it was bone-chilling out there with a wind that blew me sideways. The children were not happy, but I'm sure it built character.

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« Reply #7251 on: February 25, 2020, 06:08:06 PM »
I have a low-grade fever today.  Sat on the couch 90% of the day (without TV, just looking into space, MMM forums, etc).


Anyway, my MPP is that I still would rather make something for the family for dinner (with limited supplies because no grocery run today, so just perogies and onions or scrambled eggs and oatmeal), than have my husband get take out.

PFFT

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« Reply #7252 on: February 25, 2020, 07:29:44 PM »
I have a low-grade fever today.  Sat on the couch 90% of the day (without TV, just looking into space, MMM forums, etc).


Anyway, my MPP is that I still would rather make something for the family for dinner (with limited supplies because no grocery run today, so just perogies and onions or scrambled eggs and oatmeal), than have my husband get take out.

PFFT

OK I looked up your symptoms and it says you could have network connectivity problems

Perogies are delicious

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« Reply #7253 on: February 26, 2020, 01:59:03 AM »
I have a low-grade fever today.  Sat on the couch 90% of the day (without TV, just looking into space, MMM forums, etc).


Anyway, my MPP is that I still would rather make something for the family for dinner (with limited supplies because no grocery run today, so just perogies and onions or scrambled eggs and oatmeal), than have my husband get take out.

PFFT
OK I looked up your symptoms and it says you could have network connectivity problems

Perogies are delicious

I know... but dinner ended up being home made hawaiian pizza using tortilla wraps instead of making dough, to keep it easy.   Don't know what the teen will take for lunch, tomorrow, I used the sandwich ham and wraps.  PB and crackers, maybe.. 

And it isn't a problem, more of a network connectivity preference (to not watch TV  / space out instead).

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7254 on: February 26, 2020, 07:51:18 AM »
I have a low-grade fever today.  Sat on the couch 90% of the day (without TV, just looking into space, MMM forums, etc).


Anyway, my MPP is that I still would rather make something for the family for dinner (with limited supplies because no grocery run today, so just perogies and onions or scrambled eggs and oatmeal), than have my husband get take out.

PFFT
OK I looked up your symptoms and it says you could have network connectivity problems

Perogies are delicious

I know... but dinner ended up being home made hawaiian pizza using tortilla wraps instead of making dough, to keep it easy.   Don't know what the teen will take for lunch, tomorrow, I used the sandwich ham and wraps.  PB and crackers, maybe.. 

And it isn't a problem, more of a network connectivity preference (to not watch TV  / space out instead).

It's a reference to Parks and Rec.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7255 on: February 27, 2020, 09:23:39 AM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)

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« Reply #7256 on: February 27, 2020, 11:05:27 AM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)
Only if you were going to cash it out today, in full, which (I hope and pray) you won't be. :)

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« Reply #7257 on: February 27, 2020, 11:23:15 AM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)
Only if you were going to cash it out today, in full, which (I hope and pray) you won't be. :)

Definitely not cashing out--paper losses only.  But my net worth spreadsheet graph took quite a nose dive.  ;-)

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« Reply #7258 on: February 27, 2020, 12:53:52 PM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)
Only if you were going to cash it out today, in full, which (I hope and pray) you won't be. :)

Definitely not cashing out--paper losses only.  But my net worth spreadsheet graph took quite a nose dive.  ;-)

I know the feeling. My broker only updates on Mondays and I expect to see the biggest loss ever. Last Monday I was up +35% compared to the purchase price of my index funds so realistically I'm still going to be in the green figures even if I have a 4 figure loss on paper. But I think I have the nerve to handle this. I was invested in 2008/2009 and I barely noticed the losses in December 2008. Once the money is invested it doesn't feel like my hard earned €'s anymore, it feels more like Monopoly money.

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« Reply #7259 on: February 27, 2020, 01:18:21 PM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)
Only if you were going to cash it out today, in full, which (I hope and pray) you won't be. :)

Definitely not cashing out--paper losses only.  But my net worth spreadsheet graph took quite a nose dive.  ;-)

My MPP is that I should have updated my NW spreadsheet last week when I was still over the $100k milestone.

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« Reply #7260 on: February 27, 2020, 05:39:16 PM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)
Only if you were going to cash it out today, in full, which (I hope and pray) you won't be. :)

Definitely not cashing out--paper losses only.  But my net worth spreadsheet graph took quite a nose dive.  ;-)

My MPP is that I should have updated my NW spreadsheet last week when I was still over the $100k milestone.

Always update your spreadsheet on the highest day of the market.  This is a particularly useful rule because then you know the top is in and you can sell your investments

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« Reply #7261 on: February 28, 2020, 04:53:47 AM »
My MPP is similar, I only keep records for the end of each month, so 2 months in a row now we've gone over the 500K mark, but at month end were/are below that.  So my spreadsheet still doesn't say that we hit that milestone :-(

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« Reply #7262 on: February 28, 2020, 05:57:28 AM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)
Only if you were going to cash it out today, in full, which (I hope and pray) you won't be. :)
My wife asked me about our investments today. Based on the numbers of last week we're still ahead a bit. Then she asked me to sell because she feared losing a lot of money, I said no "let it go" and this money is here to stay until it's either grown enough to quit work or we're old enough that it doesn't matter anymore :P

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« Reply #7263 on: February 28, 2020, 06:04:19 AM »
My MPP is similar, I only keep records for the end of each month, so 2 months in a row now we've gone over the 500K mark, but at month end were/are below that.  So my spreadsheet still doesn't say that we hit that milestone :-(
This brought back memories!  I used to check the balance of my pension funds weekly.  I first went through the £490k barrier in May 2015 but, despite additional contributions going in every month, could I get to £500k?  I broke £490k twice in May, 4 times in June, 3 in July, 2 in August, once in October, 4 times in November, 3 in December and finally hit £500k on 1 Jan 2016.  And then dropped below again for another 3 months!

I hope your breaking of your milestone is slightly less fraught, but with the current markets I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you!

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« Reply #7264 on: February 28, 2020, 09:28:23 AM »
MPP of the week: 

When I first starting out investing, losing 10% of my portfolio in a correction meant losing a couple hundred bucks, tops. 

Now it means losing about 2 years of projected post-FIRE living expenses.  ;-)
Only if you were going to cash it out today, in full, which (I hope and pray) you won't be. :)
My wife asked me about our investments today. Based on the numbers of last week we're still ahead a bit. Then she asked me to sell because she feared losing a lot of money, I said no "let it go" and this money is here to stay until it's either grown enough to quit work or we're old enough that it doesn't matter anymore :P

Funny, my partner is the opposite! We have separate finances and he was never comfortable with investing before, so I only invested with my own money. But he's getting used to it now the more he understands about it. He told me yesterday that this is a good week to buy and I will help him to set up an investment account soon. He's probably going to start off with small amounts of money but I'm glad he's seeing the light!

We are both naturally frugal and debt-averse but investing was just something he hadn't really heard of before we met.

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« Reply #7265 on: February 28, 2020, 11:38:04 AM »
MPP - I encouraged my DD to put all of her savings and student loan money into investments.  She chose a balanced fund with 60% equities.   The money that she did not need to spend for 6 months, anyway.

My real challenge this week -- to get her to still feel confident about her choices!

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« Reply #7266 on: February 28, 2020, 01:25:34 PM »
My MPP is similar, I only keep records for the end of each month, so 2 months in a row now we've gone over the 500K mark, but at month end were/are below that.  So my spreadsheet still doesn't say that we hit that milestone :-(
This brought back memories!  I used to check the balance of my pension funds weekly.  I first went through the £490k barrier in May 2015 but, despite additional contributions going in every month, could I get to £500k?  I broke £490k twice in May, 4 times in June, 3 in July, 2 in August, once in October, 4 times in November, 3 in December and finally hit £500k on 1 Jan 2016.  And then dropped below again for another 3 months!

I hope your breaking of your milestone is slightly less fraught, but with the current markets I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you!
Definitely no breath is being held around here!  We do the same thing, I check weekly on Saturday morning most weeks.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7267 on: February 28, 2020, 03:12:58 PM »
MPP - I encouraged my DD to put all of her savings and student loan money into investments.  She chose a balanced fund with 60% equities.   The money that she did not need to spend for 6 months, anyway.

My real challenge this week -- to get her to still feel confident about her choices!
That seems like a very aggressive AA for money you need in six months. If it were me I would be in a money market.

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« Reply #7268 on: February 28, 2020, 03:16:03 PM »
MPP - I encouraged my DD to put all of her savings and student loan money into investments.  She chose a balanced fund with 60% equities.   The money that she did not need to spend for 6 months, anyway.

My real challenge this week -- to get her to still feel confident about her choices!

DW received an email today from her employers retirement investment adviser cautioning people against over reacting to the virus and copied me when she wrote back:

Hi ____,
Thanks for the update. I appreciate your thoroughness in planning. While I also expect Cornonavirus to be a non-issue in Alaska and am a “buy and hold” investor, it’s good to think about possible scenarios. DH and I were just discussing this morning that if the market dips below a 35% drop, we need to rearrange our spending a bit to buy in more while the stocks are on sale. ;-)
Cheers,


MPP avoided!

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« Reply #7269 on: February 28, 2020, 08:15:57 PM »
MPP - I encouraged my DD to put all of her savings and student loan money into investments.  She chose a balanced fund with 60% equities.   The money that she did not need to spend for 6 months, anyway.

My real challenge this week -- to get her to still feel confident about her choices!
That seems like a very aggressive AA for money you need in six months. If it were me I would be in a money market.

I agree!   Stocks are for long term gains, not six months!

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« Reply #7270 on: February 29, 2020, 01:09:21 AM »
MPP - I encouraged my DD to put all of her savings and student loan money into investments.  She chose a balanced fund with 60% equities.   The money that she did not need to spend for 6 months, anyway.

My real challenge this week -- to get her to still feel confident about her choices!
That seems like a very aggressive AA for money you need in six months. If it were me I would be in a money market.
I promised I would make up any losses by the time she needs to withdraw it.   Most of it won't be needed for 2+ years.

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« Reply #7271 on: March 01, 2020, 09:23:29 AM »
Tax season has started, and this is the first year that I do not get a refund but have to pay back due to my savings and investments. Of course I should not complain, as this is a very comfortable position to be in financially, but I am grumbling all the same. And I can't complain to anyone I know because that would indicate the level of my savings and investments. Grumble...

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« Reply #7272 on: March 01, 2020, 01:34:04 PM »
Tax season has started, and this is the first year that I do not get a refund but have to pay back due to my savings and investments. Of course I should not complain, as this is a very comfortable position to be in financially, but I am grumbling all the same. And I can't complain to anyone I know because that would indicate the level of my savings and investments. Grumble...

Hey, you got a free loan from the government instead of giving them a free loan!  This is good!

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« Reply #7273 on: March 01, 2020, 09:26:16 PM »
I have no idea what the "normal" period for replacing car tires is. After latest service the mechanic let me know I should get new ones. I found the old receipt - I've had these on for 7 years. Still got around fine this winter. Biking and walking really cut down on car use :)

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« Reply #7274 on: March 01, 2020, 11:22:45 PM »
Just moved into a new house with a dishwasher. Hooray! But we only have a set of four plates and four bowls and a handful of glasses. Not enough to fill up the dishwasher.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7275 on: March 01, 2020, 11:49:56 PM »
Portfolio went down last week more $ than many people make in a year. Is this a mustachian problem, a humblebrag, or both?

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« Reply #7276 on: March 02, 2020, 02:15:07 AM »
I have no idea what the "normal" period for replacing car tires is. After latest service the mechanic let me know I should get new ones. I found the old receipt - I've had these on for 7 years. Still got around fine this winter. Biking and walking really cut down on car use :)

You should replace them at the next convenient time.  Car tires do not last indefinitely even if they have tread.  The material degrades and 7 years is a good time to start thinking about replacements IMO.  I have this issue too on my low mileage car, but I don’t want to cheap out on a safety item

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« Reply #7277 on: March 02, 2020, 04:11:56 AM »
I have no idea what the "normal" period for replacing car tires is. After latest service the mechanic let me know I should get new ones. I found the old receipt - I've had these on for 7 years. Still got around fine this winter. Biking and walking really cut down on car use :)
7 years is a normal time for tyres to reach their EOL. The gum simply degrades over time and developes cracks. At my last set the mechanic even laughed that the profile looked like the tyres where new (20K km), but I still should get new ones the next season.

I certainly am not going to risk my life for the 10€ I save with waiting another year or wait until one breaks when I drive on the Highway. Tyres and brakes are the most important items on a car.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7278 on: March 02, 2020, 09:26:51 AM »
Just moved into a new house with a dishwasher. Hooray! But we only have a set of four plates and four bowls and a handful of glasses. Not enough to fill up the dishwasher.
I just read somewhere that supposedly the DW is more efficient than hand washing for anything more than eight items.  I call BS. However, with twins on the way, you will have use for that dishwasher soon enough. In the meantime, it makes an excellent drying rack.

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« Reply #7279 on: March 02, 2020, 10:39:34 AM »
Just moved into a new house with a dishwasher. Hooray! But we only have a set of four plates and four bowls and a handful of glasses. Not enough to fill up the dishwasher.
I just read somewhere that supposedly the DW is more efficient than hand washing for anything more than eight items.  I call BS. However, with twins on the way, you will have use for that dishwasher soon enough. In the meantime, it makes an excellent drying rack.

I ready that first as Dear Wife (DW).  I am sure that there is documentation somewhere that women are more efficient at hand washing, it seemed like an odd statement :).

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My problems abound.

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« Reply #7280 on: March 02, 2020, 11:59:15 AM »
I just read somewhere that supposedly the DW is more efficient than hand washing for anything more than eight items.  I call BS. However, with twins on the way, you will have use for that dishwasher soon enough. In the meantime, it makes an excellent drying rack.

My guess is that a lot of this has to do with how a person washes their dishes, as well as age of the dishwasher. Sink full of hot soapy water, turning on water for each rinse is quite efficient. Running the water as you wash -like I've seen people do-, not so much. Modern dishwashers use like five gallons of water, while ones 25 years old use 10+ gallons. I've not measured my "hand-wash" usage. Modern dishwashers also don't require you to pre-rinse your dishes, although many people still do.

If I were to hand wash a full dishwasher's worth of kitchenware, I'd more than likely use more than 5 gallons. But I've also used less than half a gallon washing 8 plates/bowls when camping...

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« Reply #7281 on: March 02, 2020, 05:22:10 PM »
I just read somewhere that supposedly the DW is more efficient than hand washing for anything more than eight items.  I call BS. However, with twins on the way, you will have use for that dishwasher soon enough. In the meantime, it makes an excellent drying rack.

My guess is that a lot of this has to do with how a person washes their dishes, as well as age of the dishwasher. Sink full of hot soapy water, turning on water for each rinse is quite efficient. Running the water as you wash -like I've seen people do-, not so much. Modern dishwashers use like five gallons of water, while ones 25 years old use 10+ gallons. I've not measured my "hand-wash" usage. Modern dishwashers also don't require you to pre-rinse your dishes, although many people still do.

If I were to hand wash a full dishwasher's worth of kitchenware, I'd more than likely use more than 5 gallons. But I've also used less than half a gallon washing 8 plates/bowls when camping...
I totally agree with you. When I heard the stat I was very curious what method they used to come to that conclusion. And, yes, camping is a great example.

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« Reply #7282 on: March 02, 2020, 08:02:40 PM »
My wife left her credit card at a restaurant and we didn’t realize for two weeks because we didn’t spend any money.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7283 on: March 02, 2020, 09:06:43 PM »
I just read somewhere that supposedly the DW is more efficient than hand washing for anything more than eight items.  I call BS. However, with twins on the way, you will have use for that dishwasher soon enough. In the meantime, it makes an excellent drying rack.

My guess is that a lot of this has to do with how a person washes their dishes, as well as age of the dishwasher. Sink full of hot soapy water, turning on water for each rinse is quite efficient. Running the water as you wash -like I've seen people do-, not so much. Modern dishwashers use like five gallons of water, while ones 25 years old use 10+ gallons. I've not measured my "hand-wash" usage. Modern dishwashers also don't require you to pre-rinse your dishes, although many people still do.

If I were to hand wash a full dishwasher's worth of kitchenware, I'd more than likely use more than 5 gallons. But I've also used less than half a gallon washing 8 plates/bowls when camping...
I totally agree with you. When I heard the stat I was very curious what method they used to come to that conclusion. And, yes, camping is a great example.

As a person who spent several years living without running water I can confirm that it is definitely possible to a dishwasher’s worth of dishes by hand using less than 5 gallons of water. I know because the pan we used for heating the water was only 5 gallons and it was never filled for dishes, only for baths.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7284 on: March 02, 2020, 09:22:07 PM »
When we lived on board, the water tanks lasted half again as long if I did dishes than if DH did dishes.

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« Reply #7285 on: March 03, 2020, 08:32:17 AM »
I have no idea what the "normal" period for replacing car tires is. After latest service the mechanic let me know I should get new ones. I found the old receipt - I've had these on for 7 years. Still got around fine this winter. Biking and walking really cut down on car use :)

You should replace them at the next convenient time.  Car tires do not last indefinitely even if they have tread.  The material degrades and 7 years is a good time to start thinking about replacements IMO.  I have this issue too on my low mileage car, but I don’t want to cheap out on a safety item

Thanks! Already have an appointment for next week. I had done the penny test and yes the tread is low so definitely ready for a replacement.

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« Reply #7286 on: March 03, 2020, 08:44:44 AM »
I have no idea what the "normal" period for replacing car tires is. After latest service the mechanic let me know I should get new ones. I found the old receipt - I've had these on for 7 years. Still got around fine this winter. Biking and walking really cut down on car use :)
7 years is a normal time for tyres to reach their EOL. The gum simply degrades over time and developes cracks. At my last set the mechanic even laughed that the profile looked like the tyres where new (20K km), but I still should get new ones the next season.

I certainly am not going to risk my life for the 10€ I save with waiting another year or wait until one breaks when I drive on the Highway. Tyres and brakes are the most important items on a car.

Agreed. Apologies, I don't want to give the impression I'm being casual about safety. You're right, this is not a situation in which saving a few extra dollars is worth it. Tires are being replaced this week. Good to hear 7 years is the norm. A family member had told me that was ridiculous, and said he gets new tires every 2-3 years!

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« Reply #7287 on: March 03, 2020, 10:36:45 AM »
A family member had told me that was ridiculous, and said he gets new tires every 2-3 years!
Your family member is probably driving a non-Mustachian amount and replacing them based on tread depth instead of age.

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« Reply #7288 on: March 03, 2020, 04:08:57 PM »
A family member had told me that was ridiculous, and said he gets new tires every 2-3 years!
Your family member is probably driving a non-Mustachian amount and replacing them based on tread depth instead of age.

Could also be cheap tires.  Decent tires can easily last 60k which is like 4 years at 15k per year

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7289 on: March 03, 2020, 04:18:48 PM »
A family member had told me that was ridiculous, and said he gets new tires every 2-3 years!
Your family member is probably driving a non-Mustachian amount and replacing them based on tread depth instead of age.

Could also be cheap tires.  Decent tires can easily last 60k which is like 4 years at 15k per year

Could also be driving style.  I drive like an old man and my brakes and tires last longer than my 19DS's brakes and tires.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7290 on: March 03, 2020, 09:09:27 PM »
A family member had told me that was ridiculous, and said he gets new tires every 2-3 years!
Your family member is probably driving a non-Mustachian amount and replacing them based on tread depth instead of age.

Could also be cheap tires.  Decent tires can easily last 60k which is like 4 years at 15k per year

Quality of the tire has very little to do with how many miles they are rated to last. Quality Tires are designed for all sorts of different applications. High mileage being only one possible application.  Typically there is a trade off between grip and tread wear. A tire rated for high mileage likely has less grip and will take a longer distance to bring the vehicle to a stop.

Tires maximum age is somewhere around 10 years. Manufacturers suggest after  5 years you inspect the rubber for age related problems every year. They're likely going to be bad prior to 10 years depending on climate, etc. If you don't drive a lot of miles it's likely that a tire with a low replacement mileage rating is a better tire for you as it will likely be safer and if you don't drive a lot you are unlikely to go through the tread before the tire is bad due to age.

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« Reply #7291 on: March 04, 2020, 12:27:24 AM »
A family member had told me that was ridiculous, and said he gets new tires every 2-3 years!
Your family member is probably driving a non-Mustachian amount and replacing them based on tread depth instead of age.

Could also be cheap tires.  Decent tires can easily last 60k which is like 4 years at 15k per year

Quality of the tire has very little to do with how many miles they are rated to last. Quality Tires are designed for all sorts of different applications. High mileage being only one possible application.  Typically there is a trade off between grip and tread wear. A tire rated for high mileage likely has less grip and will take a longer distance to bring the vehicle to a stop.

Tires maximum age is somewhere around 10 years. Manufacturers suggest after  5 years you inspect the rubber for age related problems every year. They're likely going to be bad prior to 10 years depending on climate, etc. If you don't drive a lot of miles it's likely that a tire with a low replacement mileage rating is a better tire for you as it will likely be safer and if you don't drive a lot you are unlikely to go through the tread before the tire is bad due to age.


Well reasoned, although cheap tires will probably not have grip not mileage.  Within a given standard of safety, there’s probably a slightly more expensive version that also will last longer

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« Reply #7292 on: March 04, 2020, 01:38:14 PM »
I don't draw a paycheck, but yesterday I worked the polls from 6am to 10pm and tonight it looks like I am in for a useless meeting with a bunch of men with grand ideas and no follow through. Every single one of them thinks XYZ should be done and probably want to know why I haven't done it, despite the fact that I have already spent over a year telling them what is wrong with their vision and none of them has offered a single solution that hasn't already been tried.

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« Reply #7293 on: March 05, 2020, 02:38:59 PM »
I don't owe enough money! :(

Mortgage rates are at record lows, but I can't save any money by refinancing because I have a small mustachian house.

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« Reply #7294 on: March 05, 2020, 05:15:21 PM »
I don't owe enough money! :(

Mortgage rates are at record lows, but I can't save any money by refinancing because I have a small mustachian house.

Cashout refi, put it in the market :D

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« Reply #7295 on: March 06, 2020, 04:58:08 AM »
I don't owe enough money! :(

Mortgage rates are at record lows, but I can't save any money by refinancing because I have a small mustachian house.

Cashout refi, put it in the market :D

200% LTV

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7296 on: March 06, 2020, 09:45:57 PM »
A family member had told me that was ridiculous, and said he gets new tires every 2-3 years!
Your family member is probably driving a non-Mustachian amount and replacing them based on tread depth instead of age.

Could also be cheap tires.  Decent tires can easily last 60k which is like 4 years at 15k per year

Quality of the tire has very little to do with how many miles they are rated to last. Quality Tires are designed for all sorts of different applications. High mileage being only one possible application.  Typically there is a trade off between grip and tread wear. A tire rated for high mileage likely has less grip and will take a longer distance to bring the vehicle to a stop.

Tires maximum age is somewhere around 10 years. Manufacturers suggest after  5 years you inspect the rubber for age related problems every year. They're likely going to be bad prior to 10 years depending on climate, etc. If you don't drive a lot of miles it's likely that a tire with a low replacement mileage rating is a better tire for you as it will likely be safer and if you don't drive a lot you are unlikely to go through the tread before the tire is bad due to age.


Well reasoned, although cheap tires will probably not have grip not mileage.  Within a given standard of safety, there’s probably a slightly more expensive version that also will last longer
Indeed. And I'm sure rwd knows more about tires than I do. Just wanted to make sure others in the thread  who are less car oriented realized there are multiple things to look at

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7297 on: March 07, 2020, 09:16:37 AM »
My related MPP is that my car is six years old and has 58k miles on it. The tires need to be replaced,, but how long do I wait? I do know the standard tread wear indicators, but I don't really want to wait that long. I like having tires with plenty of tread, but does that make me unmustachian :p

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #7298 on: March 07, 2020, 11:55:53 AM »
My related MPP is that my car is six years old and has 58k miles on it. The tires need to be replaced,, but how long do I wait? I do know the standard tread wear indicators, but I don't really want to wait that long. I like having tires with plenty of tread, but does that make me unmustachian :p

I have a similar low mileage yet aging vehicle and have wondered about that as well.  I see 10 years as a recommendation for tire replacement regardless of wear and I would think probably earlier if you don't garage it.  There is a Department of Transportation date code stamped into the side wall that can tell you the age of tires if there is any question of when they were manufactured.

I thought mine looked pretty cracked at 8 years.  I am parked outside at work and home both.  I researched into it some back then, and determined it was best to go ahead and replace.  And now it's getting close to 6 years on this set.  Car still has very low mileage.

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« Reply #7299 on: March 07, 2020, 01:31:44 PM »
I used to buy Michelin tires, but I never got the mileage they were rated for. I drive
easy, like 65 year old man aware of where lights and stops are and coast to them.
People hate it, they want to hurry up and stop.
  After a tire problem with a tire still under some warranty, Michelin said they would not cover it because the tire was rubber checked. Well, if it rubber checks while still under warranty, that seems like their problem, not mine. And yes this was a garaged car. I had a conversation with a tire salesman about Michelin tires and fast wear,
 he said, "ya, they have fixed that now!"  I don't know.