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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #1750 on: August 04, 2015, 04:37:30 PM »
Not weird. Sheena Iyengar at Columbia University calls it "choice overload" and has written a great deal about it. Google her.

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« Reply #1751 on: August 04, 2015, 09:47:52 PM »
Pantry cupboard is jammed with large quantities of flour, sugar, honey, wheat, oats, rice, beans (4 kinds) all in 15-25kg (30-50lb) containers. There's no room for regular stuff like canned goods.

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« Reply #1752 on: August 04, 2015, 10:39:22 PM »
When you're ready to give up some of your old clothing, you don't get to feel generous about donating it. It's so worn out that the only place it will be accepted is in the trash.

When I have unwanted clothing that's in too rough of shape to donate I make it into cleaning rags

I cut them apart and turn them into elaborate couture dresses.

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« Reply #1753 on: August 04, 2015, 10:42:32 PM »
When you're ready to give up some of your old clothing, you don't get to feel generous about donating it. It's so worn out that the only place it will be accepted is in the trash.

When I have unwanted clothing that's in too rough of shape to donate I make it into cleaning rags

I cut them apart and turn them into elaborate couture dresses.

Same goes for plastic bags I might add.

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« Reply #1754 on: August 04, 2015, 11:45:50 PM »
Do you accessorize them with superfluous green rubber bands from berry containers?

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« Reply #1755 on: August 05, 2015, 06:31:11 AM »
I can't say this anywhere else, but I know I can say it here.  I love being able to pay off my credit card every month.  I've been good at keeping my credit cards at a $0 balance for a long while.  Now I'm only using my AmEx Blue Cash for everything.  I last used it for business expenses and haven't gotten my reimbursement yet, but I decided to just go ahead an pay it off and pay myself back with my expense check.   I love the freedom of being to do just that.

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« Reply #1756 on: August 05, 2015, 07:00:05 AM »
Not exactly a "people" problem, but certainly a Mustachian one.

I tried putting all my Gross paycheck information into Quicken instead of Net paycheck information.  My taxes were so high related to my other spending categories that only tax categories and housing showed up on the default pie charts.  Everything else was so small in comparison that it just got grouped as "other".

Taxes are by far our highest spending category.

Not weird. Sheena Iyengar at Columbia University calls it "choice overload" and has written a great deal about it. Google her.
Was she on the Colbert Report about choice paralysis? I think the example was jeans at the Gap. He, in character, flippantly said, "I don't understand the problem. Just buy 1 of each style and color."

I do remember reading a blog of a woman who came back to the United States after living for 8 years in rural China. She had a breakdown in the bread aisle of the grocery store, and ended up leaving her shopping cart and just leaving the store in tears. There were too many choices and she couldn't figure out what to do.

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« Reply #1757 on: August 05, 2015, 08:24:37 AM »
I do remember reading a blog of a woman who came back to the United States after living for 8 years in rural China. She had a breakdown in the bread aisle of the grocery store, and ended up leaving her shopping cart and just leaving the store in tears. There were too many choices and she couldn't figure out what to do.

I just buy whatever is on sale for bread.  This week I'm having 1/2 a hamburger bun with my soup at work.  Multiple people have asked me if I just forgot my lunch meat, since who would eat a bun without meat on it.  Never mind I'm actively dipping it in my soup.  Apparently, you can only use slices of bread to eat with soup, formed round circles of bread with seeds on top are not acceptable when pairing with soup. 

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« Reply #1758 on: August 05, 2015, 10:07:30 AM »
Similar to the exchange of cash for gifts, my step-father gives me a Walmart gift card.  I use it to buy 3 gift cards for my nieces and nephews.  Maybe I should ask him to just buy bigger gift cards for them and put both of our names on them.

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« Reply #1759 on: August 05, 2015, 10:14:40 AM »
Re: choice

I had to pick up Scope and there was a points deal where an additional fluoride mouthwash would only cost me like fifty cents. But the choice was paralyzing me. Because normally I just don't think about spending money for things I wasn't going to get anyway. And then even though I think fluoride rinse is a good idea because I have bad teeth, I couldn't stand the idea of adding anything more to my routine.

Like, I'm thinking to myself, this is really a first world problem to be stressed out by something like this but on the other hand you do have to assert control over your life to keep it simple and effective.

Other mustachian problems: My nice screen at home is so big that I have a hard time lining up the subject line of the post I want to read with the "go to last post" icon all the way on the right. Not really money related, but technically only people using this forum could have it.
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« Reply #1760 on: August 05, 2015, 03:18:01 PM »
The whole choice discussion reminds me of decision fatigue. Having more freedom means you have more choices to make, which is actually tiring.

Having a routine can help avoid fatigue, since you have a script to follow rather than having to make a decision whether to do each individual thing.
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« Reply #1761 on: August 05, 2015, 05:56:37 PM »
I know a MMM who was in kinda grubby work clothes just outside his rental apt.

He picked up an empty beer can, cleaning up and was going to take it later for a refund.

A cop stopped him. "Your not drinking in public are you sir?"

lol

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« Reply #1762 on: August 05, 2015, 10:03:51 PM »
I do remember reading a blog of a woman who came back to the United States after living for 8 years in rural China. She had a breakdown in the bread aisle of the grocery store, and ended up leaving her shopping cart and just leaving the store in tears. There were too many choices and she couldn't figure out what to do.

I just buy whatever is on sale for bread.  This week I'm having 1/2 a hamburger bun with my soup at work.  Multiple people have asked me if I just forgot my lunch meat, since who would eat a bun without meat on it.  Never mind I'm actively dipping it in my soup.  Apparently, you can only use slices of bread to eat with soup, formed round circles of bread with seeds on top are not acceptable when pairing with soup.

I'm eating soup at work and forgot my bread. I would stare longingly at your bun!

(It's ok, there is no-one at my work to see me eat my bread-less soup. They're all out buying lunch. >.< )

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« Reply #1763 on: August 15, 2015, 08:09:53 AM »
I know a MMM who was in kinda grubby work clothes just outside his rental apt.

He picked up an empty beer can, cleaning up and was going to take it later for a refund.

A cop stopped him. "Your not drinking in public are you sir?"

lol

The last house I rented I was cleaning empty beer cans out of my bushes (we lived next door to 7-Eleven). I had a huge trash bag overflowing with cans. This guy in a car stops and calls me over, and tries to give me empty cans 'to help you out with a little extra money'

I had to explain to him I lived here and was just cleaning the trash out of my yard.

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« Reply #1764 on: August 15, 2015, 09:27:02 AM »
Mustachian married life is so egalitarian and drama-free that we indulge in anti-mustachian role play: For yard work, my husband wears his old grubby Navy ship jumpsuit (rank stuff removed) and a bandana on his head. We like to play "Lady of the house offers the gardener a cool drink and flirts shamelessly with the help."

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« Reply #1765 on: August 15, 2015, 03:12:46 PM »
Mustachian married life is so egalitarian and drama-free that we indulge in anti-mustachian role play: For yard work, my husband wears his old grubby Navy ship jumpsuit (rank stuff removed) and a bandana on his head. We like to play "Lady of the house offers the gardener a cool drink and flirts shamelessly with the help."

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« Reply #1766 on: August 15, 2015, 03:16:07 PM »
I know a MMM who was in kinda grubby work clothes just outside his rental apt.

He picked up an empty beer can, cleaning up and was going to take it later for a refund.

A cop stopped him. "Your not drinking in public are you sir?"

lol

A friend of ours was once informed by his neighbor that Friend's (pregnant) wife had been seen making out with the gardener. Friend says, "That was me!"
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« Reply #1767 on: August 15, 2015, 05:29:42 PM »
Mustachian married life is so egalitarian and drama-free that we indulge in anti-mustachian role play: For yard work, my husband wears his old grubby Navy ship jumpsuit (rank stuff removed) and a bandana on his head. We like to play "Lady of the house offers the gardener a cool drink and flirts shamelessly with the help."

Hey Basenji Thanks for the idea- says the help

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« Reply #1768 on: August 16, 2015, 11:41:52 PM »
Mustachian married life is so egalitarian and drama-free that we indulge in anti-mustachian role play: For yard work, my husband wears his old grubby Navy ship jumpsuit (rank stuff removed) and a bandana on his head. We like to play "Lady of the house offers the gardener a cool drink and flirts shamelessly with the help."

Slow clap.

I wish we had a garden. We have one potted tree on our balcony. I guess that does leave more time for ... other things.

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« Reply #1769 on: August 17, 2015, 05:41:48 AM »
I know a MMM who was in kinda grubby work clothes just outside his rental apt.

He picked up an empty beer can, cleaning up and was going to take it later for a refund.

A cop stopped him. "Your not drinking in public are you sir?"

lol

A friend of ours was once informed by his neighbor that Friend's (pregnant) wife had been seen making out with the gardener. Friend says, "That was me!"

That is so funny.

My husband was out in London when he was younger and he and his friend sat down on the pavement to wait for their other friend to turn up and a passer by gave him some money. He must have looked scruffy. Lol.

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« Reply #1770 on: August 17, 2015, 02:36:25 PM »
Our adult children think we are so poor they give their hand me down clothes to my wife and our 8 year old son.   My wife now has a closet packed with hundreds of clothes she never wears. 
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« Reply #1771 on: August 17, 2015, 02:50:47 PM »
Every year, my parents give me a little bit of money for my birthday. Last time, however, they required me to show them a receipt as proof that I had actually bought something before handing me any money, because otherwise I'd have just 'stashed it like every year.

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« Reply #1772 on: August 17, 2015, 03:04:18 PM »
Every year, my parents give me a little bit of money for my birthday. Last time, however, they required me to show them a receipt as proof that I had actually bought something before handing me any money, because otherwise I'd have just 'stashed it like every year.
Hilarious! I wonder what would qualify as buying something. ;-)  Stock certificates? Bonds? Commodities? "No, seriously, I've always dreamed of sleeping with a gold bar under my pillow!"

Reminds me of my grandma when I was little. I opened a savings account when I was six, and every year my dad's mother would send me a card with a check in it for whatever gift occasions would come up. Every time I would deposit it in the bank and write her a thank-you note: Dear Grandma. Thank you very much for the check. I put it in my bank account. One time when I was about 12 she had a little sit-down with me and tried to explain about "mad money" and how I was supposed to have fun with it.
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« Reply #1773 on: August 17, 2015, 06:20:48 PM »
Every year, my parents give me a little bit of money for my birthday. Last time, however, they required me to show them a receipt as proof that I had actually bought something before handing me any money, because otherwise I'd have just 'stashed it like every year.

This is funny! I usually stash presents but I have this very wealthy and very spendy aunt and something about her makes me inclined to blow her presents to me on restaurant food or frippery. Whereas when my grandfather has given me money, I have paid off debt (when I had it), funded my Roth, etc. From my mom, it goes either way. Like I am channeling the personality of the giver.
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« Reply #1774 on: August 17, 2015, 07:34:08 PM »
Whenever I see an suv or other gas guzzler pass by, I picture dollar bills pouring out their exhaust.  Or calculating how much money a person just lost beating me off the line at a red light, only to pull up next to them at the next light. 
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« Reply #1775 on: August 18, 2015, 05:45:54 AM »
I was looking at my master Excel spreadsheet which I use to keep track of life expenses.  It's been bothering me that there was a recent 10% increase in our trended 6 month spend without any cause we could point to.

I spent a few minutes to dig deeper.  Turns out that when I moved my rolling average a while back, I inadvertently extended the cell calculations by half a month, so I was looking at an extrapolated 13 months.
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« Reply #1776 on: August 18, 2015, 07:29:27 AM »

Reminds me of my grandma when I was little. I opened a savings account when I was six, and every year my dad's mother would send me a card with a check in it for whatever gift occasions would come up. Every time I would deposit it in the bank and write her a thank-you note: Dear Grandma. Thank you very much for the check. I put it in my bank account. One time when I was about 12 she had a little sit-down with me and tried to explain about "mad money" and how I was supposed to have fun with it.

That was what almost every thank you note I wrote as a child was, and what the ones I get from my nephew's look like now.  We were allowed to take 25% of our Christmas presents to have for spending money, the rest went in the bank.  When I put my first downpayment on a house, I was really appreciative of my parent's insistence on that.

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« Reply #1777 on: August 18, 2015, 09:06:12 AM »
Reminds me of my grandma when I was little. I opened a savings account when I was six, and every year my dad's mother would send me a card with a check in it for whatever gift occasions would come up. Every time I would deposit it in the bank and write her a thank-you note: Dear Grandma. Thank you very much for the check. I put it in my bank account. One time when I was about 12 she had a little sit-down with me and tried to explain about "mad money" and how I was supposed to have fun with it.

My 11 year old niece is very frugal and saves any money she gets.  My sister actually uses her as an emergency ATM when she's short of cash.  She'll ask if she can borrow $20, and my niece will go right back to her room and get the money for her.  But she wants $21 back in a week.  She writes the amounts on a chalkboard in the kitchen so my sister doesn't forget.

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« Reply #1778 on: August 18, 2015, 09:08:10 AM »
Can you get "Dora the Loan shark" costumes ?


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« Reply #1779 on: August 18, 2015, 09:24:20 AM »
My 11 year old niece is very frugal and saves any money she gets.  My sister actually uses her as an emergency ATM when she's short of cash.  She'll ask if she can borrow $20, and my niece will go right back to her room and get the money for her.  But she wants $21 back in a week.  She writes the amounts on a chalkboard in the kitchen so my sister doesn't forget.
Hah. What's the APR on that?? I wasn't quite that bad, I never charged anyone interest until I joined Lending Club ;-)

My mom likes to tell the story about when I was little and went out picking berries with a friend (there were huckleberry bushes growing wild in the woods and we had fun hunting for the best patches). I came back and she asked what I thought we should do with them, and I said maybe I could sell them, for, like, a dollar? And she said, well, that's not a bad idea. And then with further discussion she realized I meant a dollar per berry and not a dollar for the half-pint or so that we'd picked.
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« Reply #1780 on: August 18, 2015, 09:25:31 AM »
And then with further discussion she realized I meant a dollar per berry and not a dollar for the half-pint or so that we'd picked.
And you went on to create  Whole-Foods ?

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« Reply #1781 on: August 18, 2015, 09:26:24 AM »
Whenever I see an suv or other gas guzzler pass by, I picture dollar bills pouring out their exhaust.  Or calculating how much money a person just lost beating me off the line at a red light, only to pull up next to them at the next light.
Me too... I get a vivid image of hundreds of bills going up in smoke.

Then I put my (solar-charged) Volt in sport mode and smoke their ass... >.<
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« Reply #1782 on: August 18, 2015, 10:37:43 AM »
Over the past several years, our financial surplus has been so big and our net worth has grown so quickly that we stopped sharing information about our finances with our family members at some point. We just felt increasingly uneasy to talk about it.

This was over two years ago. Since then, we've grown another 40%+.

But because we stopped talking about it completely, everybody in the family is now worrying. Literally, everyone:
-Some worry that we save too much, miss out on life and will regret it later.
-Others worry that our investments might have seriously gone wrong and that we have financial problems of some sort, and that we are just too embarrassed to talk about it.

The only consensus between the two camps seems to be that when we tell people everything is just fine, nobody believes us.
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« Reply #1783 on: August 18, 2015, 10:46:00 AM »
We just discovered the hideous embarrassment of having the bank manage bow and scrape and rush to hold the door for us because we passed a (six figure) bit our savings through the bank.  It was awful.  I didn't know where to look.

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« Reply #1784 on: August 18, 2015, 11:28:10 AM »
My 11 year old niece is very frugal and saves any money she gets.  My sister actually uses her as an emergency ATM when she's short of cash.  She'll ask if she can borrow $20, and my niece will go right back to her room and get the money for her.  But she wants $21 back in a week.  She writes the amounts on a chalkboard in the kitchen so my sister doesn't forget.

Go niece!

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« Reply #1785 on: August 18, 2015, 12:18:01 PM »
My 11 year old niece is very frugal and saves any money she gets.  My sister actually uses her as an emergency ATM when she's short of cash.  She'll ask if she can borrow $20, and my niece will go right back to her room and get the money for her.  But she wants $21 back in a week.  She writes the amounts on a chalkboard in the kitchen so my sister doesn't forget.

Go niece!

:)

This is not a problem it.  It is a solution to the question "How do I educate my children about money?",  I have high hopes for the niece.

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« Reply #1786 on: August 18, 2015, 12:42:01 PM »
Over the past several years, our financial surplus has been so big and our net worth has grown so quickly that we stopped sharing information about our finances with our family members at some point. We just felt increasingly uneasy to talk about it.

This was over two years ago. Since then, we've grown another 40%+.

But because we stopped talking about it completely, everybody in the family is now worrying. Literally, everyone:
-Some worry that we save too much, miss out on life and will regret it later.
-Others worry that our investments might have seriously gone wrong and that we have financial problems of some sort, and that we are just too embarrassed to talk about it.

The only consensus between the two camps seems to be that when we tell people everything is just fine, nobody believes us.
That is truly comical. Why are you uneasy? Would they try to get in on it?
My family tends to be fairly modest so I wouldn't brag about numbers, but I wouldn't be afraid to answer questions factually. They know I only plan on working a few more years, and that our main goal is FI so we can live closer to them without employment being a factor. If we end up millionaires I won't have a problem telling them (of course, they probably won't even ask). But I also know they'd literally go hungry before calling for help (at which point I'd gladly give it). I realize many families are nothing like that.
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« Reply #1787 on: August 18, 2015, 12:56:18 PM »
Over the past several years, our financial surplus has been so big and our net worth has grown so quickly that we stopped sharing information about our finances with our family members at some point. We just felt increasingly uneasy to talk about it.

This was over two years ago. Since then, we've grown another 40%+.

But because we stopped talking about it completely, everybody in the family is now worrying. Literally, everyone:
-Some worry that we save too much, miss out on life and will regret it later.
-Others worry that our investments might have seriously gone wrong and that we have financial problems of some sort, and that we are just too embarrassed to talk about it.

The only consensus between the two camps seems to be that when we tell people everything is just fine, nobody believes us.
That is truly comical. Why are you uneasy? Would they try to get in on it?
Not at all. But the larger the 'stash got, the more it felt like we were showing off or bragging about it rather than just sharing information. Also, we've been wondering whether our success might make someone feel bad about himself rather than happy for us.

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« Reply #1788 on: August 18, 2015, 01:23:53 PM »
Not at all. But the larger the 'stash got, the more it felt like we were showing off or bragging about it rather than just sharing information. Also, we've been wondering whether our success might make someone feel bad about himself rather than happy for us.
Yeah, most people don't like to talk about money if you're frugal and doing nicely. It's fine if you're broke, and it's fine if you're spending, but talking about how much you earn (through a job or investments) or how much you don't spend rubs people the wrong way for some reason.

I couldn't help telling my parents when I crossed into six figure net worth, and while they were nice about it, I've gotten a couple "you should live your life while you're young enough to enjoy it" lectures since then...
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« Reply #1789 on: August 18, 2015, 01:26:33 PM »
Also, we've been wondering whether our success might make someone feel bad about himself rather than happy for us.

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I've gotten a couple "you should live your life while you're young enough to enjoy it" lectures since then...

I'd be curious as to your (plural) viewpoint regarding your actions as they relate to others' behavior, and how you view that. I'm not big on people being happy for me, but I also know that I'm not quite normal. :D

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #1790 on: August 18, 2015, 01:40:37 PM »
We just discovered the hideous embarrassment of having the bank manage bow and scrape and rush to hold the door for us because we passed a (six figure) bit our savings through the bank.  It was awful.  I didn't know where to look.
This. We finally had to demand that they stop calling us with investment schemes or pitching anything when we're in the bank. Yes, we know how much is in our savings, (To the penny. Sort of.) and yes, we do have plans for it. Now go away, please. We did not get what we have by paying retail for investment opportunities and we're not going to start now.  And NO, we don't want to become your Wealth Management Clients, or whatever they call it. That money will ebb and flow, we're not going to maintain ridiculous balances just so you can give us imaginary "perks".

(For the record, we wanted to flip a house using cash. We did. We had fun. We made money. We're casually looking for another one, so yeah, our money is just sitting there for now. It's all good.)
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« Reply #1791 on: August 18, 2015, 03:02:54 PM »
[...]
I've gotten a couple "you should live your life while you're young enough to enjoy it" lectures since then...

I'd be curious as to your (plural) viewpoint regarding your actions as they relate to others' behavior, and how you view that.
I'm a little unclear on your question since it's phrased so broadly. Which actions and what behavior are you asking about?
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« Reply #1792 on: August 18, 2015, 03:52:44 PM »
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I've gotten a couple "you should live your life while you're young enough to enjoy it" lectures since then...

I'd be curious as to your (plural) viewpoint regarding your actions as they relate to others' behavior, and how you view that.
I'm a little unclear on your question since it's phrased so broadly. Which actions and what behavior are you asking about?

That's why I phrased it that way. :P

But the initial thought, and the initial question I meant, was how do you all deal with people you care about not appreciating what you are doing in regards to FIRE? That's all.
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« Reply #1793 on: August 18, 2015, 04:02:20 PM »
But the initial thought, and the initial question I meant, was how do you all deal with people you care about not appreciating what you are doing in regards to FIRE? That's all.
I don't really tell anyone, honestly. I mentioned to my mom one time that I wanted to retire early and she thought this was code for "needs a new job" since why would I want to retire if I liked my job? So I never brought it up again. I'm friends with people of wildly varying income/wealth levels (from mid-six-figures to minimum wage, probably) so I generally find it easier to just act like I have a fairly tight budget, but am not having any money trouble. If the subject of retirement/investing comes up I say that I "pay myself first" by putting money into savings before I get to spend anything, and they sort of understand that, and it works well with my "I'm on a fairly tight budget" schtick.

I have been asked a few times if I'm a recovering alcoholic since I often decide not to drink alcohol when I'm out with friends... ;-)
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #1794 on: August 18, 2015, 04:33:05 PM »
But the initial thought, and the initial question I meant, was how do you all deal with people you care about not appreciating what you are doing in regards to FIRE? That's all.
I don't really tell anyone, honestly. [...]

Same here. Whenever topics come up that are remotely related to FIRE (such as reducing work-hours) I try to explain them in a way that is plausible, fits their view of the world, and is also partially true. Kind of like "I had to reduce hours because of health issues", or "I worked from home", etc., when really the existing health issue is not that crucial, and the time I worked from home was just half a day.
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #1795 on: August 18, 2015, 05:07:53 PM »
But the initial thought, and the initial question I meant, was how do you all deal with people you care about not appreciating what you are doing in regards to FIRE? That's all.

I told my mom my plans a few years ago and she acted like I was going off the deep end. 

She just wasn't ready for the whole picture all at once so it freaked her out a bit.

Now she's much more on board with the whole plan because she's seen us work it hard and steady since then, and that we're making progress.

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« Reply #1796 on: August 18, 2015, 05:37:40 PM »

I have been asked a few times if I'm a recovering alcoholic since I often decide not to drink alcohol when I'm out with friends... ;-)

I get asked similar questions too. Or I've been asked if I am Mormon. If people are really persistent wondering why I don't drink, I think one of the influences is actually a true sad story. A good friend's alcoholic mom commited suicide when we were teenagers. That's a good reason to not drink, or at least not drink a lot.
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #1797 on: August 18, 2015, 07:02:29 PM »
We just discovered the hideous embarrassment of having the bank manage bow and scrape and rush to hold the door for us because we passed a (six figure) bit our savings through the bank.  It was awful.  I didn't know where to look.
This. We finally had to demand that they stop calling us with investment schemes or pitching anything when we're in the bank. Yes, we know how much is in our savings, (To the penny. Sort of.) and yes, we do have plans for it. Now go away, please. We did not get what we have by paying retail for investment opportunities and we're not going to start now.  And NO, we don't want to become your Wealth Management Clients, or whatever they call it. That money will ebb and flow, we're not going to maintain ridiculous balances just so you can give us imaginary "perks".

(For the record, we wanted to flip a house using cash. We did. We had fun. We made money. We're casually looking for another one, so yeah, our money is just sitting there for now. It's all good.)
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #1798 on: August 18, 2015, 07:07:47 PM »

I have been asked a few times if I'm a recovering alcoholic since I often decide not to drink alcohol when I'm out with friends... ;-)

I get asked similar questions too. Or I've been asked if I am Mormon. If people are really persistent wondering why I don't drink, I think one of the influences is actually a true sad story. A good friend's alcoholic mom commuted suicide when we were teenagers. That's a good reason to not drink, or at least not drink a lot.

I'll assume you meant "committed"... :)

I tell folks I just like the taste of Dr. Pepper better.   They already think I'm eccentric anyway so they accept it and drop the topic.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #1799 on: August 18, 2015, 07:18:38 PM »
We just discovered the hideous embarrassment of having the bank manage bow and scrape and rush to hold the door for us because we passed a (six figure) bit our savings through the bank.  It was awful.  I didn't know where to look.
Ha, that reminded me of going to the bank the day a manager was acting as a teller. I went up there, the guy punched in my account, looked at the balance, and all of a sudden I couldn't get him off the hard sell of what other services they could offer me. Among other things, they had some credit card offer where I got something back for every thousand I spend in groceries. I was trying to politely decline, I explained that I only spend about $60 on groceries a month, but he wouldn't let up. I finally had to make a big production of putting my bike helmet and gloves down on the counter, looking at him like I was going to burst into tears and saying "I just want to cash my check, will you let me do that or not?"  I was cashing a rebate check for about three dollars.