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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4350 on: October 29, 2017, 11:03:14 PM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).
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« Reply #4351 on: October 30, 2017, 05:40:07 PM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).

Husband regularly stays in places that are $3000-$5000 a night. He can get absolutely anything he wants with one phone call.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) he spends absolutely every second working, so usually has no time for fun.

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« Reply #4352 on: October 30, 2017, 05:57:26 PM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).

Husband regularly stays in places that are $3000-$5000 a night. He can get absolutely anything he wants with one phone call.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) he spends absolutely every second working, so usually has no time for fun.
I guess I'm just naive, but holy shit.  Holy shit.  I always thought the $400/night hotels were the expensive ones.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4353 on: October 30, 2017, 06:45:09 PM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).

This. I've been staying in 5 star hotels in China for years thinking they were ridiculously nice, but I guess there is a whole 'nother level!

Husband regularly stays in places that are $3000-$5000 a night. He can get absolutely anything he wants with one phone call.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) he spends absolutely every second working, so usually has no time for fun.
I guess I'm just naive, but holy shit.  Holy shit.  I always thought the $400/night hotels were the expensive ones.

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« Reply #4354 on: October 30, 2017, 06:46:42 PM »
My MPPs: my milk bottles get dirty on the way home from TJ in my bike baskets. Have to wipe them off or they get the fridge dirty.

Our commitment to non-extravagance in running into my MIL's desire to go to the Ritz for Christmas Day brunch. Which would cost us a stomach-turning five hundred dollars.  I am going to leave that emotionally challenging conversation to my husband.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4355 on: October 30, 2017, 06:53:34 PM »
I chose a cheap candy at Costco that trick or treaters love and I dislike, saving money and calori consumption. Hi-chews for the win!

You dislike Hi-Chew?!

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« Reply #4356 on: October 30, 2017, 07:02:49 PM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).

Husband regularly stays in places that are $3000-$5000 a night. He can get absolutely anything he wants with one phone call.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) he spends absolutely every second working, so usually has no time for fun.
I guess I'm just naive, but holy shit.  Holy shit.  I always thought the $400/night hotels were the expensive ones.

It's not as glamorous as it sounds. He once booked into a $3500/night room at 1am and had to be out again at 5am. He didn't even sleep, figured it would make him more tired, so he sat in the plunge pool with a beer, went for a walk on the beach, had a shower, packed and left for the airport.

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« Reply #4357 on: October 30, 2017, 09:26:24 PM »
My MPPs: my milk bottles get dirty on the way home from TJ in my bike baskets. Have to wipe them off or they get the fridge dirty.

Our commitment to non-extravagance in running into my MIL's desire to go to the Ritz for Christmas Day brunch. Which would cost us a stomach-turning five hundred dollars.  I am going to leave that emotionally challenging conversation to my husband.

I ran into trouble one year when I refused to have my family participate in my mother's  Mother's day brunch...   It was running up to $250 by the time I covered my family and part of her lunch, and a gift, too.  Dad did not understand, got a bit upset, but the cost surprised us the prior year, so I had to decline.    He came around after a couple of months, so all is good now, and they do a Mother's day lunch with my sister's family only now, which is a lot easier and cheaper for us, and I just buy her a nice potted plant.

Anyway, good luck.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4358 on: October 30, 2017, 09:31:01 PM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).

Husband regularly stays in places that are $3000-$5000 a night. He can get absolutely anything he wants with one phone call.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) he spends absolutely every second working, so usually has no time for fun.
I guess I'm just naive, but holy shit.  Holy shit.  I always thought the $400/night hotels were the expensive ones.

It's not as glamorous as it sounds. He once booked into a $3500/night room at 1am and had to be out again at 5am. He didn't even sleep, figured it would make him more tired, so he sat in the plunge pool with a beer, went for a walk on the beach, had a shower, packed and left for the airport.
I ... just this weekend did almost exactly the same thing (1:30am to 5:45am... my cousin's wedding went a bit later than expected) with what I considered a near-luxury hotel (Fairfield Inn, something like $130/night), paid for with Marriott points.  Except I did choose to get the ~4hrs of sleep.  It felt like a waste of a "nice" hotel.

It's all relative.

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« Reply #4359 on: October 31, 2017, 01:33:33 AM »
Our commitment to non-extravagance in running into my MIL's desire to go to the Ritz for Christmas Day brunch. Which would cost us a stomach-turning five hundred dollars.  I am going to leave that emotionally challenging conversation to my husband.

A simple solution for this problem would be if MIL  would pay for your family. It is not unreasonable for parent with good means to buy their children a nice dinner or brunch. To force you to pay for yourself is not a nice gesture. In that case you'd better serve a nice brunch at home. If she finds that paying for you would be too pricy for her, than she might understand that it is also too pricy for you to pay for your family.

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« Reply #4360 on: October 31, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.

That's my un-fun MPP. My family knows that my finances are comfortable, but don't appreciate that I would rather not blow $500 on a poor quality meal at a fancy place. I get a lot of snide comments about being a miser when I won't foot lavish bills for them. They would seem to prefer that I blow my 'stache and live on the brink like they do.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4361 on: October 31, 2017, 10:52:40 AM »
When you already lead a very spartan lifestyle, and something happens and you lose your income, you don't have fat to trim when it comes to cutting expenses...
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« Reply #4362 on: October 31, 2017, 01:49:07 PM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.


That's close to how it went for us the first year...   They chose the place, didn't tell me the price $30 per person plus tax and tip, then looked at my sister and I to pay the bill.  At least Sis split it with me, and we had the same number of people in our families, so it was fair.  (and 11 people!)

It was so hard to just flat out say no the next year.  Lots of looks from Dad about why we couldn't do this one nice thing for mom, it's mother's day, etc.   Now it is easier to flat out say no, or to ask the cost upfront.

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« Reply #4363 on: October 31, 2017, 03:30:39 PM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.

That's my un-fun MPP. My family knows that my finances are comfortable, but don't appreciate that I would rather not blow $500 on a poor quality meal at a fancy place. I get a lot of snide comments about being a miser when I won't foot lavish bills for them. They would seem to prefer that I blow my 'stache and live on the brink like they do.

That is disgusting.

As I've said previously, I'm not willing to support people in a lifestyle more comfortable than my own.

For Father's Day this year my MiL texted us inviting us to lunch, saying she had picked a restaurant (90 mins from our place) and the set menu was $70 a head. It was clear that we were expected to attend but not clear if we were expected to pay. FiL ended up paying for everyone which was generous of him, but I know he would have preferred a BBQ at home.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4364 on: October 31, 2017, 05:01:37 PM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.


That's close to how it went for us the first year...   They chose the place, didn't tell me the price $30 per person plus tax and tip, then looked at my sister and I to pay the bill.  At least Sis split it with me, and we had the same number of people in our families, so it was fair.  (and 11 people!)

One year my brother and I took my mom out for dinner for her birthday (my dad was out of town so it was just the three of us). My brother always complained that I never helped organize dinners and stuff - which was true, because he's a foodie snob and I never felt like I would do a good job. Anyway, I picked a place that was nice but not stuffy, has really good food but not outrageous, etc. He rejected it and told me to cancel the reservation and he made a new one somewhere else. Somewhere outrageously expensive. And he ordered a fancy bottle of wine (which I didn't drink). It ended up being over $600 for three people and yes, I was put on the spot to pay half. At the time I was earning about $60k a year in a HCOL, so didn't have tons of cash to throw around, and he knew it.

It is hard to believe some people will just casually throw hundreds of dollars worth of bills at you like that without even discussing it in advance, but they do :-/
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4365 on: October 31, 2017, 06:41:46 PM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.

That's my un-fun MPP. My family knows that my finances are comfortable, but don't appreciate that I would rather not blow $500 on a poor quality meal at a fancy place. I get a lot of snide comments about being a miser when I won't foot lavish bills for them. They would seem to prefer that I blow my 'stache and live on the brink like they do.

Holy shit... I guess I should consider myself fortunate that I don't have family members who treat me like that!

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4366 on: October 31, 2017, 06:58:57 PM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.


That's close to how it went for us the first year...   They chose the place, didn't tell me the price $30 per person plus tax and tip, then looked at my sister and I to pay the bill.  At least Sis split it with me, and we had the same number of people in our families, so it was fair.  (and 11 people!)

One year my brother and I took my mom out for dinner for her birthday (my dad was out of town so it was just the three of us). My brother always complained that I never helped organize dinners and stuff - which was true, because he's a foodie snob and I never felt like I would do a good job. Anyway, I picked a place that was nice but not stuffy, has really good food but not outrageous, etc. He rejected it and told me to cancel the reservation and he made a new one somewhere else. Somewhere outrageously expensive. And he ordered a fancy bottle of wine (which I didn't drink). It ended up being over $600 for three people and yes, I was put on the spot to pay half. At the time I was earning about $60k a year in a HCOL, so didn't have tons of cash to throw around, and he knew it.

It is hard to believe some people will just casually throw hundreds of dollars worth of bills at you like that without even discussing it in advance, but they do :-/

That was beyond crappy of your brother. It's not how fancy something is, it's what's heartfelt. Clearly, your brother hadn't learned that lesson. Hopefully he has since.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4367 on: October 31, 2017, 07:10:21 PM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.


That's close to how it went for us the first year...   They chose the place, didn't tell me the price $30 per person plus tax and tip, then looked at my sister and I to pay the bill.  At least Sis split it with me, and we had the same number of people in our families, so it was fair.  (and 11 people!)

One year my brother and I took my mom out for dinner for her birthday (my dad was out of town so it was just the three of us). My brother always complained that I never helped organize dinners and stuff - which was true, because he's a foodie snob and I never felt like I would do a good job. Anyway, I picked a place that was nice but not stuffy, has really good food but not outrageous, etc. He rejected it and told me to cancel the reservation and he made a new one somewhere else. Somewhere outrageously expensive. And he ordered a fancy bottle of wine (which I didn't drink). It ended up being over $600 for three people and yes, I was put on the spot to pay half. At the time I was earning about $60k a year in a HCOL, so didn't have tons of cash to throw around, and he knew it.

It is hard to believe some people will just casually throw hundreds of dollars worth of bills at you like that without even discussing it in advance, but they do :-/

That was beyond crappy of your brother. It's not how fancy something is, it's what's heartfelt. Clearly, your brother hadn't learned that lesson. Hopefully he has since.

Unfortunately not. That was about five years ago and we barely have a relationship any more after being quite close for many years. He has gotten to be very selfish with everyone but his wife and kid. They have two good incomes and two sets of multi-millionaire parents, and they have the only grandkid in the whole family, so they're terribly spoiled and would much rather throw money at something than actually take the time to care.
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4368 on: November 01, 2017, 03:27:19 AM »
At least you're having this discussion ahead of time. Last Mother's Day, my mom turned down my invitation to brunch at my house in favour of inviting me out to brunch with her, her husband and my grandmother. They surprised me by telling the waiter that I'd pay. I did, but since I had only expected to pay for myself and her, I was annoyed. I didn't say anything until the week later when I turned down a similar invitation.

That's my un-fun MPP. My family knows that my finances are comfortable, but don't appreciate that I would rather not blow $500 on a poor quality meal at a fancy place. I get a lot of snide comments about being a miser when I won't foot lavish bills for them. They would seem to prefer that I blow my 'stache and live on the brink like they do.

A friend of mine told me a similar story recently, being invited for a dinner out by his mum and grandma for his birthday and then expected to pay for all of them afterwards.... He said he seriously had considered paying only his own meal and leaving them there, but didn't want to embarrass them.

I'm so glad my family isn't like that. We got invited for a Christmas brunch by my mother and I don't even have to ask, I know she will pay. It's not actually extremely expensive (Ä35/head) but it's a lot of money for something not really special. The brunch starts off with a glass of champagne which neither my fiance or I drink, then soup, then a buffet with salads, fancy types of bread and pastry and a few warm meat dishes. The venue is kind of tacky too. I could prepare that for Ä5/head at home. When we go out to eat, we prefer to eat something special, something you can't easily make at home for a fraction of the price.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4369 on: November 01, 2017, 05:02:14 AM »
I've been pulling my hair out for the last few days because we are set to completely blow our budget this month.
We have two modest incomes and a perfect storm of (mostly optional, but certainly preferred) expenses have arisen.

After endlessly pondering over the spreadsheet, I caught site of the cell with our savings rate percentage. 
We're still saving a third of our income.  I need to get a grip, this month is a one off and normal service will resume in December.

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« Reply #4370 on: November 01, 2017, 09:22:53 AM »
My MPP is that my last-day-of-month dividends don't show up until first-day-of-new-month, so I can't check my allocations when I want.
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« Reply #4371 on: November 02, 2017, 03:44:39 AM »
So I've truly never understood... why not just turn a robe around? Then tada, you have a blanket with sleeves. Am I missing something? I've had friends with snuggies (and they both also owned fluffy robes). I just don't get it.
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I found one at a thrift store, and it's wonderful for sleeping. I tend to throw my arms up over my head in my sleep, and now they (and my hands: it's a big Snuggie) don't get cold when I do.

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« Reply #4372 on: November 02, 2017, 04:14:48 AM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).

Husband regularly stays in places that are $3000-$5000 a night. He can get absolutely anything he wants with one phone call.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) he spends absolutely every second working, so usually has no time for fun.
I guess I'm just naive, but holy shit.  Holy shit.  I always thought the $400/night hotels were the expensive ones.

It's not as glamorous as it sounds. He once booked into a $3500/night room at 1am and had to be out again at 5am. He didn't even sleep, figured it would make him more tired, so he sat in the plunge pool with a beer, went for a walk on the beach, had a shower, packed and left for the airport.



 Even in SF, $5k gets you a giant presidential suite. When Iím traveling For work, i ainít got time for that, I just want to lay down and close my eyes donít care if itís a closet.  Is the point just to waste client/company money?  Surely there are more reasonable options available?

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« Reply #4373 on: November 02, 2017, 05:26:37 AM »
Even in SF, $5k gets you a giant presidential suite. When Iím traveling For work, i ainít got time for that, I just want to lay down and close my eyes donít care if itís a closet.  Is the point just to waste client/company money?  Surely there are more reasonable options available?

He doesn't choose the accommodation, just gets told where he's staying. The companies that host him and his colleagues tend to try to outdo each other.

The business/first class flights are for a pragmatic reason. The boys need to be able to fly LA or London or Oslo and get off the plane at the other end ready to work immediately. They have to be well rested or it becomes a liability problem.

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« Reply #4374 on: November 02, 2017, 02:20:16 PM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

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« Reply #4375 on: November 02, 2017, 02:42:02 PM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

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« Reply #4376 on: November 02, 2017, 04:35:21 PM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

This is hilarious.

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« Reply #4377 on: November 03, 2017, 01:58:01 AM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

This is hilarious.

Note the complete lack of denial

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« Reply #4378 on: November 03, 2017, 04:41:09 AM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

This is hilarious.

Note the complete lack of denial

He's never worn a tux, grumbles at having to wear a suit two or three times a year, and the only martinis he drinks are espresso martinis ... but he has driven Aston Martins.

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« Reply #4379 on: November 03, 2017, 09:20:31 AM »
But were the espresso martinis shaken, not stirred?

I'm in the pretty sure he's 007 club.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4380 on: November 03, 2017, 09:24:24 AM »
If you had an Aston Martini, could you drink and drive?

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« Reply #4381 on: November 03, 2017, 11:27:17 AM »
If you had an Aston Martini, could you drink and drive?
Just because you could does not mean you should. Even the old greek philosophers have known that, Solon!

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4382 on: November 04, 2017, 07:16:48 AM »
Thank you all for the cautionary tales of extended family and expensive food, I called today and said that we would like to look into cheaper alternatives for Christmas brunch. No response yet, I'm sure everyone there  (MIL and assorted siblings) are steaming and fuming about my presumption and pushing back against what MIL wants. Oy! There has been some serious matriarchal brainwashing in that family. The crappy communication patterns make it a challenge to engage with them, that's for sure.

Hmm, my MPP, realizing that we have about 15% of our portfolio uninvested, and that seems way too  high.

Edited to add that we are trying to just use one car. My husband needs it this morning, so I normally bike to work and errands, but it just started raining. I supppose I will borrow his bright yellow rain gear, so not such an MPP. I am pretty committed to ditching a car and don't want to derail the experiment!
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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4383 on: November 04, 2017, 07:23:18 AM »
Hadilly, you're my hero! I wonder if there is a link between crappy communication patterns and over-consumption, as the problems that you face seem to be nearly identical to the ones that prevail in my family. I'm rooting for you!

(I keep hoping that someone will admit to being secretly relieved at my suggesting cheaper options, but I may be holding out for a while yet!)

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« Reply #4384 on: November 04, 2017, 11:20:49 AM »
I had to move all my spreadsheet columns over when two accounts hit six figures in the same month. :)

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« Reply #4385 on: November 04, 2017, 11:43:12 AM »
I had to move all my spreadsheet columns over when two accounts hit six figures in the same month. :).

A true MPP!   it is good to have a place to to celebrate "problems" that few IRL have.

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« Reply #4386 on: November 04, 2017, 01:39:25 PM »
We were planning on paying off student loans this month when SOs RSUs vest. However, as part of open enrollment, his employer put out literature about using your bonus for after tax 401k contributions. Now, he has finally done his research about mega back door Roths, and decided to make the maximum allowable contributions from the last few paychecks. We will have to live off the cashed in RSUs, as my income is minimal through the winter and already goes to tax advantaged accounts.

The process is similar, but this is so much better than juggling every penny I have to keep from bouncing any checks.

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« Reply #4387 on: November 05, 2017, 06:15:03 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on meals, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

 My MPP, I let the house be cold in the fall and winter.  That means when ingredients need to be at room temperature I have to warm them up.   My butter never softens and my honey has gone solid.

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« Reply #4388 on: November 05, 2017, 06:48:08 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on measles, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

Don't confuse a work perk with spending big.

As for the rest of that sentence... DYAC?

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« Reply #4389 on: November 05, 2017, 06:49:59 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on measles, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

 My MPP, I let the house be cold in the fall and winter.  That means when ingredients need to be at room temperature I have to warm them up.   My butter never softens and my honey has gone solid.

Funny, I just commented to my husband this evening that it's kind of nice that the honey I put on my bread stays put and doesn't run off onto the plate.

Getting bread dough warm enough to rise, however, is my MPP lately. (Thank you, whoever it was who suggested putting the dough in a toaster oven or microwave (turned off) with a bowl of warm water! That has been working. Just takes some monitoring and occasional refilling, but no 12-18 hour constant use of electricity or propane. Yay!)

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« Reply #4390 on: November 05, 2017, 10:59:28 PM »
Sun Hat: thank you! I fear the backlash of the silent treatment has begun. No response to suggesting we FaceTime together this weekend.

MPP: we bought three cheap turkeys this weekend and I cooked one as a test run for thanksgiving. I ended up buying a baking steel so I could do the Serious Eats method. Kind of pricey but we will use for pizzas, etc. in the future. If anyone tries dry brining, I would recommend omitting the baking powder and just using salt. It was supposed to produce extra crispy skin, but bleagh, the proportions were terrible and I tossed all the skin. There is your dry brine PSA, and now back to MPPs.

Congratulations Misstachian!

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« Reply #4391 on: November 05, 2017, 11:31:29 PM »
Sun Hat: thank you! I fear the backlash of the silent treatment has begun. No response to suggesting we FaceTime together this weekend.

I hope this works out well for you.

My family have just this year agreed to stop giving presents to adults. I've been encouraging it for a while, but wasn't the instigator this time. The success in getting traction was my skint sibling focusing on what people actually want (spending time with the people we love) rather than what we do (unwrapping presents that we don't particularly need or want).

Has MIL actually expressed fury, or has everyone else expressed it on MIL's behalf? Can you find an alternative that has something that the pricey place doesn't (even if it is easier parking, or closer to MIL, or an earlier sitting)?

In my story, the siblings that were protesting the lack of presents loudest were claiming that our parents would feel put out if they couldn't buy presents. But no, it turns out they were delighted by the idea.

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« Reply #4392 on: November 06, 2017, 02:54:18 AM »
I am currently staying in a hotel for work and found out this morning that breakfast is not included. As I arrived at 10 pm last night and my conferance started early I didn't have the time to search for a cheap breakfast solution. So I paid for the 24 euro rip-off hotel breakfast. This costs more than the amount I receive from my work for buying food.

I have asked the personell for the closest food shop and he explained a big shopping mall and 15-20 minutes walking from here. I hope the restaurant that I reserved for tonight is in the vicinity of the shop so that I have the time to buy my own breakfast for the next 2 days.

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« Reply #4393 on: November 06, 2017, 11:34:37 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

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« Reply #4394 on: November 06, 2017, 01:28:21 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on measles, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

Don't confuse a work perk with spending big.

As for the rest of that sentence... DYAC?

GAHH!  At least it wasn't actual measles, that would be bad.  Thanks for the question :).

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« Reply #4395 on: November 07, 2017, 12:38:08 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4396 on: November 07, 2017, 05:08:28 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.

Now I can't talk about the cost of flights as I came from the US but you just gave my budget from last year without trying to scrimp or work in New Zealand.  (Now I rented vs bought a car).  I could have easily spent 50% what I did in NZ last march so flights included with renting a car would have been less than $4,000 before working.

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« Reply #4397 on: November 07, 2017, 06:34:44 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.

Now I can't talk about the cost of flights as I came from the US but you just gave my budget from last year without trying to scrimp or work in New Zealand.  (Now I rented vs bought a car).  I could have easily spent 50% what I did in NZ last march so flights included with renting a car would have been less than $4,000 before working.

That's pretty affordable for a long trip to NZ! I'm not completely sure about the cost of flights either - I pay coworkers' economy flights as I work in finance so I have a vague idea about what that would cost, but I don't actually book them so I have no idea if this is average.

I think all in all I spent Ä2500 including housing and tution on six weeks in Scandinavia, back in 2011. I do think it's good to travel during or right after college if you can afford it. I believe it's valuable life experience to go somewhere on your own where you don't speak the language. You can of course do it at any point in life, but at this age you don't have a lot of responsibilities, steady jobs, mortgages, kids, marriage, those kind of things.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4398 on: November 07, 2017, 09:31:23 AM »
In here that's a mark of being 'lower class': having a washing machine in the kitchen.

As someone who moved from the UK to the US and discovered that 'Muricans have a whole ROOM dedicated to their laundry, I still giggle inside when the aforementioned 'Muricans are shocked that us Brits keep ours in the kitchen.

That depends. We have more of a wide hallway for our laundry machines. A laundry room without hallway running through it would truly be luxurious.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4399 on: November 07, 2017, 10:00:42 AM »
It was a particularly cold morning earlier this week. I cycle to work and arrived just as someone else arrived in their 4x4 they have probably driven less than 5 miles. I had forgotten this since last winter but itís the look I receive as if Iím the one thatís completely mad!