Overheard on Facebook

[MgoSam]

2 weeks ago I was visiting a store that I sell to, they had a customer walk in who wanted to "look" at her water pipe. It was a $1500 water pipe!!!! that is on lay-away for her. She was gushing about how she was 2 weeks away from purchasing it, but wanted to come in and hold it. The owner hemmed and hawed about allowing her to touch it "because it has a ton of energy that you want to save for when you first use it," and I had to stifle a laugh, but people believe that about some artisan glass.

$1500 for a BONG?!?!?!?  :O

Yeah right!  That is like half a weeks worth of scratch off lottery tickets.

Well it's a "one of a kind," item, and some people collected them.....

[markbike528CBX]

2 weeks ago I was visiting a store that I sell to, they had a customer walk in who wanted to "look" at her water pipe. It was a $1500 water pipe!!!! that is on lay-away for her. She was gushing about how she was 2 weeks away from purchasing it, but wanted to come in and hold it. The owner hemmed and hawed about allowing her to touch it "because it has a ton of energy that you want to save for when you first use it," and I had to stifle a laugh, but people believe that about some artisan glass.

$1500 for a BONG?!?!?!?  :O

Yeah right!  That is like half a weeks worth of scratch off lottery tickets.

Well it's a "one of a kind," item, and some people collected them.....

Yeesh, maybe that $$$ might seem OK immediately after a reeeely aaawwesum "test drive"...

[kayvent]

My school is a lotto cesspool.  A group of teachers will each contribute $20 a week and pool all the money to buy tickets. Word got around that I play poker, and they came to me assuming that I would want to jump in on their lotto pool.  They told me that it was 25 staff members (at the time).  That's $500 a week they're pouring down the drain.  They "reinvest" any small returns (anything under $500) into the next drawing. To my knowledge, no one has ever seen any return on it.  They're all waiting to hit it big.  $800 a year for 30 years at 7% is something like $82,000 extra they could each have at retirement.

The lottery makes (some) sense as an individual but not in such a large collection. Say they hit it big.....what's the winning split twenty-five ways? A few hundred thousand? The absolute odds for winning barely rise yet they forfeit 96% of the winnings. Grumble. They should just make their own lottery so they at least break even and people get the thrill of winning.

[JAYSLOL]

I've been noticing more than one person on the Facebook buy and sell group for my town posting REALLY expensive remote control cars for sale.  Like $2000+.  Used.  I thought one was a joke, because it looked just like any other rc toy truck, and the guy wanted $2000 for it and said he "invested" (wrong word) $3000+, but he was dead serious.  I realize that the sky's the limit as far as pouring money into any hobby, but for me I'd have to have the most insane surplus of money before I felt like buying toys like that... and I got the sense this person didn't.

[dandarc]

The lottery makes (some) sense as an individual but not in such a large collection. Say they hit it big.....what's the winning split twenty-five ways? A few hundred thousand? The absolute odds for winning barely rise yet they forfeit 96% of the winnings. Grumble. They should just make their own lottery so they at least break even and people get the thrill of winning.

Depends which game and draw they play.  Ex.  Powerball is up to $140 million for Saturday's draw.  If this group had a winning ticket, and there was 1 other winning ticket out there, they'd ultimately have around $46 million to split (cash payout is roughly 2/3 of advertised jackpot based on what I'm seeing in the Florida Lottery records).  Even split 25 ways, and after tax, that would be enough for most on this forum to retire.  Probably not enough for your average lottery-pool regular participant, but still you're talking 7 figures after tax.  Double if  they've got the only winner.  Even more if the jackpot is larger.

Doing this with the FL-Lottery makes less sense - $2 million jackpot that doesn't often grow to more than about $15 million.

[Just Joe]

I've been noticing more than one person on the Facebook buy and sell group for my town posting REALLY expensive remote control cars for sale.  Like $2000+.  Used.  I thought one was a joke, because it looked just like any other rc toy truck, and the guy wanted $2000 for it and said he "invested" (wrong word) $3000+, but he was dead serious.  I realize that the sky's the limit as far as pouring money into any hobby, but for me I'd have to have the most insane surplus of money before I felt like buying toys like that... and I got the sense this person didn't.

Have you seen these things?

50+ mph / 4WD / working suspension / camera mounts / apparently unbreakable

Very interesting but not spending money on that. Not saying I think they are worth the cost to me but one evening while slipping down the rabbit hole that is YouTube - I got a good look at the hobby. Its a long, long ways from a couple kids playing with a $25 toy running on $5 worth of AA batteries.

[MightyAl]

I've been noticing more than one person on the Facebook buy and sell group for my town posting REALLY expensive remote control cars for sale.  Like $2000+.  Used.  I thought one was a joke, because it looked just like any other rc toy truck, and the guy wanted $2000 for it and said he "invested" (wrong word) $3000+, but he was dead serious.  I realize that the sky's the limit as far as pouring money into any hobby, but for me I'd have to have the most insane surplus of money before I felt like buying toys like that... and I got the sense this person didn't.

Have you seen these things?

50+ mph / 4WD / working suspension / camera mounts / apparently unbreakable

Very interesting but not spending money on that. Not saying I think they are worth the cost to me but one evening while slipping down the rabbit hole that is YouTube - I got a good look at the hobby. Its a long, long ways from a couple kids playing with a $25 toy running on $5 worth of AA batteries.

I thought I saw a few years ago a track R/C car that could do 100mph for $1100 RTR.  I almost bit on one of those.

[Exprezchef]

I've been noticing more than one person on the Facebook buy and sell group for my town posting REALLY expensive remote control cars for sale.  Like $2000+.  Used.  I thought one was a joke, because it looked just like any other rc toy truck, and the guy wanted $2000 for it and said he "invested" (wrong word) $3000+, but he was dead serious.  I realize that the sky's the limit as far as pouring money into any hobby, but for me I'd have to have the most insane surplus of money before I felt like buying toys like that... and I got the sense this person didn't.

Yes, this hobby can get expensive very quickly. Many, many years ago a friend introduced me to indoor RC car racing that uses a carpet track. It looked like a lot of fun and decided to jump in and give it a shot. Holly crap it got way too expensive very quickly. I purchased a used car with some basic tools and a ton of used extra parts. I quickly realized that in order to be competitive, you need to dump a ton of money into your car (motors, gears, batteries, bodies, speed controllers, new tires, servos, etc) as well as the extra expense of using the track on non-race days. Before I knew it, I was easily into the $2-3 thousand range for my "investment". About 6 months later I had had enough. I was able to sell the car with all of the goodies I bought and luckily only took a small loss. I guess any hobby can quickly get out of control if your are not careful.

[marielle]

I've been noticing more than one person on the Facebook buy and sell group for my town posting REALLY expensive remote control cars for sale.  Like $2000+.  Used.  I thought one was a joke, because it looked just like any other rc toy truck, and the guy wanted $2000 for it and said he "invested" (wrong word) $3000+, but he was dead serious.  I realize that the sky's the limit as far as pouring money into any hobby, but for me I'd have to have the most insane surplus of money before I felt like buying toys like that... and I got the sense this person didn't.

Yes, this hobby can get expensive very quickly. Many, many years ago a friend introduced me to indoor RC car racing that uses a carpet track. It looked like a lot of fun and decided to jump in and give it a shot. Holly crap it got way too expensive very quickly. I purchased a used car with some basic tools and a ton of used extra parts. I quickly realized that in order to be competitive, you need to dump a ton of money into your car (motors, gears, batteries, bodies, speed controllers, new tires, servos, etc) as well as the extra expense of using the track on non-race days. Before I knew it, I was easily into the $2-3 thousand range for my "investment". About 6 months later I had had enough. I was able to sell the car with all of the goodies I bought and luckily only took a small loss. I guess any hobby can quickly get out of control if your are not careful.

Well, to be fair you were being competitive. I think any hobby that you take to a competitive level will be expensive. Except maybe like...chess or something unless you have to travel a lot. Some hobbies/sports you may be able to compete with cheap equipment, but the more expensive stuff makes it easier and a lot of times is necessary.

[dandarc]

I've been noticing more than one person on the Facebook buy and sell group for my town posting REALLY expensive remote control cars for sale.  Like $2000+.  Used.  I thought one was a joke, because it looked just like any other rc toy truck, and the guy wanted $2000 for it and said he "invested" (wrong word) $3000+, but he was dead serious.  I realize that the sky's the limit as far as pouring money into any hobby, but for me I'd have to have the most insane surplus of money before I felt like buying toys like that... and I got the sense this person didn't.

Yes, this hobby can get expensive very quickly. Many, many years ago a friend introduced me to indoor RC car racing that uses a carpet track. It looked like a lot of fun and decided to jump in and give it a shot. Holly crap it got way too expensive very quickly. I purchased a used car with some basic tools and a ton of used extra parts. I quickly realized that in order to be competitive, you need to dump a ton of money into your car (motors, gears, batteries, bodies, speed controllers, new tires, servos, etc) as well as the extra expense of using the track on non-race days. Before I knew it, I was easily into the $2-3 thousand range for my "investment". About 6 months later I had had enough. I was able to sell the car with all of the goodies I bought and luckily only took a small loss. I guess any hobby can quickly get out of control if your are not careful.

Well, to be fair you were being competitive. I think any hobby that you take to a competitive level will be expensive. Except maybe like...chess or something unless you have to travel a lot. Some hobbies/sports you may be able to compete with cheap equipment, but the more expensive stuff makes it easier and a lot of times is necessary.

So I should buy those roller-flys then?

[JAYSLOL]

I've been noticing more than one person on the Facebook buy and sell group for my town posting REALLY expensive remote control cars for sale.  Like $2000+.  Used.  I thought one was a joke, because it looked just like any other rc toy truck, and the guy wanted $2000 for it and said he "invested" (wrong word) $3000+, but he was dead serious.  I realize that the sky's the limit as far as pouring money into any hobby, but for me I'd have to have the most insane surplus of money before I felt like buying toys like that... and I got the sense this person didn't.

Yes, this hobby can get expensive very quickly. Many, many years ago a friend introduced me to indoor RC car racing that uses a carpet track. It looked like a lot of fun and decided to jump in and give it a shot. Holly crap it got way too expensive very quickly. I purchased a used car with some basic tools and a ton of used extra parts. I quickly realized that in order to be competitive, you need to dump a ton of money into your car (motors, gears, batteries, bodies, speed controllers, new tires, servos, etc) as well as the extra expense of using the track on non-race days. Before I knew it, I was easily into the $2-3 thousand range for my "investment". About 6 months later I had had enough. I was able to sell the car with all of the goodies I bought and luckily only took a small loss. I guess any hobby can quickly get out of control if your are not careful.

Yeah, i can see how quickly that could add up, but it seems like for almost the same kind of money I could buy an actual, decently fast go-kart and race it around instead, right?  I would much prefer that option if i had the time, a ridiculous net-worth and was laking in hobbies.

[AlanStache]

...
Yeah, i can see how quickly that could add up, but it seems like for almost the same kind of money I could buy an actual, decently fast go-kart and race it around instead, right?  I would much prefer that option if i had the time, a ridiculous net-worth and was laking in hobbies.

TopGear boys did that, bought and fixed up cars to race for (I think) 2000£.  One down side there is that you need to store a full sized car; even a go-kart is not small.  There are some go-kart tracks near me where you rent the karts; have always thought it would be fun to get into a league but I just cant see spending real money on it every month.

[ginastarke]

As  for what kind of shoes you can get for $12:

Kmart Athletech Men's Dax 2. Ugly? yes.  However, they're been ridiculously comfortable and don't get destroyed by my bicycle pedals. They're $10.

[Metric Mouse]

...
Yeah, i can see how quickly that could add up, but it seems like for almost the same kind of money I could buy an actual, decently fast go-kart and race it around instead, right?  I would much prefer that option if i had the time, a ridiculous net-worth and was laking in hobbies.

TopGear boys did that, bought and fixed up cars to race for (I think) 2000£.  One down side there is that you need to store a full sized car; even a go-kart is not small.  There are some go-kart tracks near me where you rent the karts; have always thought it would be fun to get into a league but I just cant see spending real money on it every month.

I've never heard of go-kart racing leagues! Interesting. Maybe something to try on dirt-bike off season.

[Digital Dogma]

...
Yeah, i can see how quickly that could add up, but it seems like for almost the same kind of money I could buy an actual, decently fast go-kart and race it around instead, right?  I would much prefer that option if i had the time, a ridiculous net-worth and was laking in hobbies.

TopGear boys did that, bought and fixed up cars to race for (I think) 2000£.  One down side there is that you need to store a full sized car; even a go-kart is not small.  There are some go-kart tracks near me where you rent the karts; have always thought it would be fun to get into a league but I just cant see spending real money on it every month.

Going to a go-kart track for someones birthday celebration really cured me of that itch. The track was fun, the experience was great, but man the next day it felt like I was in a car crash with a stiff back and neck to the extreme. Don't think I'll be going for the fastest lap time if I ever go back.

[Chris22]

...
Yeah, i can see how quickly that could add up, but it seems like for almost the same kind of money I could buy an actual, decently fast go-kart and race it around instead, right?  I would much prefer that option if i had the time, a ridiculous net-worth and was laking in hobbies.

TopGear boys did that, bought and fixed up cars to race for (I think) 2000£.  One down side there is that you need to store a full sized car; even a go-kart is not small.  There are some go-kart tracks near me where you rent the karts; have always thought it would be fun to get into a league but I just cant see spending real money on it every month.

Actually campaigning a competitive cart is probably going to require something like 3-5x your theoretical $2k budget annually. 

[AlanStache]

...
Yeah, i can see how quickly that could add up, but it seems like for almost the same kind of money I could buy an actual, decently fast go-kart and race it around instead, right?  I would much prefer that option if i had the time, a ridiculous net-worth and was laking in hobbies.

TopGear boys did that, bought and fixed up cars to race for (I think) 2000£.  One down side there is that you need to store a full sized car; even a go-kart is not small.  There are some go-kart tracks near me where you rent the karts; have always thought it would be fun to get into a league but I just cant see spending real money on it every month.

Actually campaigning a competitive cart is probably going to require something like 3-5x your theoretical $2k budget annually.

I looked into it a bit more and turns out that Jeremy Clarkson was only able to get the costs that low by berating spectators and fellow racers into giving him free car parts and fuel.  :-)  http://jalopnik.com/bbc-clarkson-berated-and-assaulted-producer-reported-1693558651

[BDWW]

Mustachian car racing

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

[driftxsequence]

Mustachian car racing

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

Not exactly as cheap as it may sound. You buy a "$500 car", Spend $2000 plus on safety equipment, then each driver needs about $700+ worth of safety gear. Now you need a truck, a trailer, pay your track fees, gas, spare parts, food etc. And each event can cost about $1000-2000.

RC racing is awesome. It sounds like Exprezchef got caught up with the joneses. I raced electric on-road outdoor with a used car, used everything actually. On a good day I was competitive, others no so much because I did not put in the wrench time others did for the conditions of the day. Yes there was the up front cost of quality running gear to the tune of $1000-1500. But after that, a normal weekend of racing was less than $100 for a day of fun. $25 for a set of tires for the day, $40 for race fees, and the rest was either a body shell I destroy, suspension arm, belts or shafts. I'm gonna make a bold claim that you cant get into a competitive motorsport for cheaper than RC racing.

Plus the community within RC racing is great, its like a great big family no matter where you go. Shame my local track closed down...

[BDWW]

Mustachian car racing

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/

Not exactly as cheap as it may sound. You buy a "$500 car", Spend $2000 plus on safety equipment, then each driver needs about $700+ worth of safety gear. Now you need a truck, a trailer, pay your track fees, gas, spare parts, food etc. And each event can cost about $1000-2000.

RC racing is awesome. It sounds like Exprezchef got caught up with the joneses. I raced electric on-road outdoor with a used car, used everything actually. On a good day I was competitive, others no so much because I did not put in the wrench time others did for the conditions of the day. Yes there was the up front cost of quality running gear to the tune of $1000-1500. But after that, a normal weekend of racing was less than $100 for a day of fun. $25 for a set of tires for the day, $40 for race fees, and the rest was either a body shell I destroy, suspension arm, belts or shafts. I'm gonna make a bold claim that you cant get into a competitive motorsport for cheaper than RC racing.

Plus the community within RC racing is great, its like a great big family no matter where you go. Shame my local track closed down...

I know, it was in jest. I autocrossed for several years, that's really the cheapest option for people who are into cars.

[AlanStache]

Oh Snap I for got I had something On Topic over the weekend!

FB friend posted about buying a BMW Z4 or Porsche (both two door & bright red & convertible)
"Opinion anyone? Car 1 is waiting for me to pick up, but lately car 2 is on my mind. Car 1 is cheaper, yet car 2 might make the lady carousel spin a little faster over the next ten years. Assume no personality improvement in that time..." <included was pictures of each>   FB friend is doing well but I would guess has a modest savings rate, he can 'afford' either car if he wants-probably.

Bunch of people post back and forth arguing the pros and cons of each including maintenance costs. 

Then about 8hr in to the conversation I post: "What in the fuck shit? Just hang a sign on your neck saying you are some middle aged dumb fuck trying to show off his money for the ladies, who then gets depressed when all the women who talk to him are shallow and only looking at his bank account." 

His reply: "Fucking hilarious. And true"

[joleran]

2 weeks ago I was visiting a store that I sell to, they had a customer walk in who wanted to "look" at her water pipe. It was a $1500 water pipe!!!! that is on lay-away for her. She was gushing about how she was 2 weeks away from purchasing it, but wanted to come in and hold it. The owner hemmed and hawed about allowing her to touch it "because it has a ton of energy that you want to save for when you first use it," and I had to stifle a laugh, but people believe that about some artisan glass.

$1500 for a BONG?!?!?!?  :O

I recently splurged $1500 on a fancy bells and whistles oven to replace my broken 20-year old one (I use it every day and wanted a toy as I'm more or less FI at this point).  So this seems reasonable considering they're probably both excellent at getting things baked in a timely manner.

[ketchup]

2 weeks ago I was visiting a store that I sell to, they had a customer walk in who wanted to "look" at her water pipe. It was a $1500 water pipe!!!! that is on lay-away for her. She was gushing about how she was 2 weeks away from purchasing it, but wanted to come in and hold it. The owner hemmed and hawed about allowing her to touch it "because it has a ton of energy that you want to save for when you first use it," and I had to stifle a laugh, but people believe that about some artisan glass.

$1500 for a BONG?!?!?!?  :O

I recently splurged $1500 on a fancy bells and whistles oven to replace my broken 20-year old one (I use it every day and wanted a toy as I'm more or less FI at this point).  So this seems reasonable considering they're probably both excellent at getting things baked in a timely manner.

[dandarc]

...

Then about 8hr in to the conversation I post: "What in the fuck shit? Just hang a sign on your neck saying you are some middle aged dumb fuck trying to show off his money for the ladies, who then gets depressed when all the women who talk to him are shallow and only looking at his bank account." 

His reply: "Fucking hilarious. And true"

Step 1 is recognizing there is a problem.

[kayvent]

...

Then about 8hr in to the conversation I post: "What in the fuck shit? Just hang a sign on your neck saying you are some middle aged dumb fuck trying to show off his money for the ladies, who then gets depressed when all the women who talk to him are shallow and only looking at his bank account." 

His reply: "Fucking hilarious. And true"

Step 1 is recognizing there is a problem.

Step 2 is ignoring the problem.

[Uturn]

Someone posted a Kureg for sale.  Yay for getting rid of that wasteful thing, but the title caught my eye.  "Stop spending so much money on coffee filters!"

[Hedge_87]

Someone posted a Kureg for sale.  Yay for getting rid of that wasteful thing, but the title caught my eye.  "Stop spending so much money on coffee filters!"

HAHA yea the $0.99 bag of 200 coffee filters a couple times a year is really going to break the bank. vs a stupid disposable cup with just the right amount of coffee measured out for you. Or you could buy a reusable filter for your regular coffee pot and never buy one again.

I have a friend that tells me he likes his because he doesn't want to be wasteful and only drinks one cup in the morning. I tried to explain that you don't have to make a WHOLE pot of coffee with a regular pot and he said that was too much to mess with.

I can't stand Kuregs anyway just from an operational standpoint so my opinion might be a little biased.

[AlanStache]

Someone posted a Kureg for sale.  Yay for getting rid of that wasteful thing, but the title caught my eye.  "Stop spending so much money on coffee filters!"

HAHA yea the $0.99 bag of 200 coffee filters a couple times a year is really going to break the bank. vs a stupid disposable cup with just the right amount of coffee measured out for you. Or you could buy a reusable filter for your regular coffee pot and never buy one again.

I have a friend that tells me he likes his because he doesn't want to be wasteful and only drinks one cup in the morning. I tried to explain that you don't have to make a WHOLE pot of coffee with a regular pot and he said that was too much to mess with.

I can't stand Kuregs anyway just from an operational standpoint so my opinion might be a little biased.

For under 10$ you can get a reusable keurig coffee pod then use normal pre-ground coffee.  I have never used a drip coffee maker to make one cup, might take some work to figure out the right amount of grounds.  I have been using an 8yo 15$ espresso machine to make one cup in the am so long that seems normal to me.

[barbaz]

What if I told you that I just take a cup, put 2 teaspoons of pre-ground coffee in it and the fill it with boiling water?

[theadvicist]

What if I told you that I just take a cup, put 2 teaspoons of pre-ground coffee in it and the fill it with boiling water?

Well, I'm not the OP, but coffee made with boiling water is is not nice, IMO. But if you adjusted the temperature, an interesting concept. Do you just wait for the 'sediment' to sink? My grandad made tea that way, always. Leaves in, stir them about, when you hit them at the bottom of the cup you stopped drinking.

[barbaz]

Do you just wait for the 'sediment' to sink? My grandad made tea that way, always. Leaves in, stir them about, when you hit them at the bottom of the cup you stopped drinking.

Pretty much like that. It works even better with coffee than with dried tea because the particles don't float so easily. I don't use literally boiling water, but it's water straight from the kettle. I should have said "hot".

For guests I have a french press. (For the coffee, not for the guests!)

[AlanStache]

Do you just wait for the 'sediment' to sink? My grandad made tea that way, always. Leaves in, stir them about, when you hit them at the bottom of the cup you stopped drinking.

Pretty much like that. It works even better with coffee than with dried tea because the particles don't float so easily. I don't use literally boiling water, but it's water straight from the kettle. I should have said "hot".

For guests I have a french press. (For the coffee, not for the guests!)

I thought you were trolling.  The few times I have got grounds in my cup and sipped them it felt like I was drinking sand.

[barbaz]

Just to clarify: I'm not drinking the grounds 😉

[sw1tch]

Do you just wait for the 'sediment' to sink? My grandad made tea that way, always. Leaves in, stir them about, when you hit them at the bottom of the cup you stopped drinking.

Pretty much like that. It works even better with coffee than with dried tea because the particles don't float so easily. I don't use literally boiling water, but it's water straight from the kettle. I should have said "hot".

For guests I have a french press. (For the coffee, not for the guests!)

I thought you were trolling.  The few times I have got grounds in my cup and sipped them it felt like I was drinking sand.

I know I'm a little weird, but I like having grounds at the bottom (that I eventually drink/swallow/chew on).  I figure it's a little caffeine boost.

[dragoncar]

Do you just wait for the 'sediment' to sink? My grandad made tea that way, always. Leaves in, stir them about, when you hit them at the bottom of the cup you stopped drinking.

Pretty much like that. It works even better with coffee than with dried tea because the particles don't float so easily. I don't use literally boiling water, but it's water straight from the kettle. I should have said "hot".

For guests I have a french press. (For the coffee, not for the guests!)

I thought you were trolling.  The few times I have got grounds in my cup and sipped them it felt like I was drinking sand.

I know I'm a little weird, but I like having grounds at the bottom (that I eventually drink/swallow/chew on).  I figure it's a little caffeine boost.

https://driftaway.coffee/how-do-you-make-cowboy-coffee/

[Well Respected Man]

More from the high-end yard sale group:

 - two more Gucci purses for over $4,000 each, both with tons of gushing comments.

 - a "high-end" treadmill that is TEN YEARS OLD (rarely used, though), asking $1,000. JFC, my treadmill looks much more high-end than this one (more bells and whistles, lifetime guarantee on the motor, etc.) and I got it for $50 from a neighbor.

[ambimammular]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

[Inaya]

Do you just wait for the 'sediment' to sink? My grandad made tea that way, always. Leaves in, stir them about, when you hit them at the bottom of the cup you stopped drinking.

Pretty much like that. It works even better with coffee than with dried tea because the particles don't float so easily. I don't use literally boiling water, but it's water straight from the kettle. I should have said "hot".

For guests I have a french press. (For the coffee, not for the guests!)

I thought you were trolling.  The few times I have got grounds in my cup and sipped them it felt like I was drinking sand.

I know I'm a little weird, but I like having grounds at the bottom (that I eventually drink/swallow/chew on).  I figure it's a little caffeine boost.

https://driftaway.coffee/how-do-you-make-cowboy-coffee/

This is interesting because for me growing up, "cowboy coffee" referred to a coffee that was more milk than coffee (I guess a latte, but not espresso). Were my parents just weird? Regional thing? (We actually have cowboys among our ancestors--and miners, incidentally--so I never doubted the term.)

[Just Joe]

I remember a story about a depression era blue collar fellow on a tight budget. He would brew a pot of coffee (percolator pot on the stove) on Mon morn and drink some of it. The next day he would add a spoonful of new grounds to yesterday's grounds and add some water. Repeat all week. 

[dragoncar]

I remember a story about a depression era blue collar fellow on a tight budget. He would brew a pot of coffee (percolator pot on the stove) on Mon morn and drink some of it. The next day he would add a spoonful of new grounds to yesterday's grounds and add some water. Repeat all week.

I do something similar.  At the end of the week, I bake the grounds into a cake.  Good fiber.

[Digital Dogma]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

[shelivesthedream]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

[Scortius]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

[kelvin]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

 Europe has the metric system, not cold coffee.

[ketchup]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

 Europe has the metric system, not cold coffee.

[BTDretire]

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

 My wife  makes Vietnamese Iced Coffee
https://www.google.com/search?q=vietnamese+coffee&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
It uses sweatened condensed milk and Cafe du Monde coffee. It is very good.
  I have dark chocolate covered coffee beans in my freezer they're yummy!

[Chris22]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

 Europe has the metric system, not cold coffee.

[Scortius]

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

 My wife  makes Vietnamese Iced Coffee
https://www.google.com/search?q=vietnamese+coffee&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
It uses sweatened condensed milk and Cafe du Monde coffee. It is very good.
  I have dark chocolate covered coffee beans in my freezer they're yummy!

Jokes aside, Vietnamese and Thai iced coffees are pretty much the most delicious things ever invented.

[MgoSam]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

 Europe has the metric system, not cold coffee.

That's funny, I don't recall hearing about that Liberian that walked on the moon....

[dragoncar]

We keep a kitchen thermometer around for checking the water temp for our coffee (if you're doing it the French press or cowboy method.) Ideal water temp is between 198-202 degrees. The machines can be so variable.

Thanks for the tip! I just give my boiling water 30 or 40 seconds to cool down but now I'll try measuring and see what I'm dealing with.

A few Christmases ago, I got a multi-temperature kettle from my parents. It does 70, 80, 90 and 100 and is totally awesome.

I'll never understand why people in Europe drink their coffee and tea so cold!

 Europe has the metric system, not cold coffee.

That's funny, I don't recall hearing about that Liberian that walked on the moon....

I'll be dead in my grave before I recognize Liberiya as a country