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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8800 on: June 07, 2023, 08:44:22 AM »
Posted today on a buy/sell group…

Burberry classic coat for 5-year-old child. Original price over 5000 rmb (~USD$700). Now selling for 988 rmb (~USD$137).

In the pictures, the tag says the coat was made in Vietnam. Pretty sure it didn’t cost anywhere near $700 to make, or even anywhere $137 to make.

They were also selling four other coats for toddlers, all of which had been worn only a couple times by their kid, per the ad. Total original cost of the coats was ~USD$2000. For coats. For a toddler.

I spend a lot of time on Facebook Marketplace and see a lot of people that post exaggerated original prices to try to get more than something is worth, so I definitely take retail price claims with a grain of salt, but I’m pretty shocked to confirm that coat could indeed have cost that kind of money new.  Talk about diminishing returns on an item that will literally only have a few months of use before it’s outgrown.  For my kid, basic clothes like tee shirts and pants I usually buy new because they are cheap and finding used stuff in the right size that isn’t worn out in my area is more work and ends up being more costly than just ordering new, but higher cost seasonal items like jackets and snowsuits etc I try to buy good quality used ones because the cost savings is substantial

I know it's old, but I was reading up on some gems here. Yes indeed, Burberry makes stupidly overpriced jackets for kids as well (not just for adults). $700 seems right.
https://us.burberry.com/check-hooded-jacket-p80694201
$550 jacket for your 6 month old? I like that it goes up to $650 for 3 yo+, as if there's any rational reasoning for the price :D ("it's more fabric"..? lol)

holyS%%#. Adult raincoats are $2,300!? And it doesn't even give the mmH2O rating? wtf. I felt bad splurging $250 on a "fancy" rainjacket at REI..
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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8801 on: June 07, 2023, 10:31:21 AM »
Yeah but the REI coat didn’t have a plaid rating

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8802 on: June 07, 2023, 10:52:44 AM »
When did this thread become a knock-off version of AITA? LOL. :-)

Now lets roast him!

Reddit might die due to their API pricing change, so might as well host the subreddits here.
Get r/Malicious Compliance, TalesFromTechSupport, PersonalFinance peeps coming over?

Forums are back in fashion, eh? Text based emojis FTW ;-)

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8803 on: June 07, 2023, 02:41:09 PM »
I just got in a whole argument on social media for my extremely sizzling hot take that people, generally, should not buy the new $3500 Apple goggles thing if they have to save up for it, because that means you don't have the money and can't afford it. I was told that saving up for things is a responsible way to buy them. Even if it's a tech toy that costs as much as multiple months' rent/mortgage. They got so mad and said all kinds of rude things to me and said I don't know anything about being financially responsible (LOL). When I told them I've been saving and investing a substantial amount of every paycheck since I was 21, they told me they didn't believe me. When I explained about putting away money out of every paycheck IN ADVANCE so you don't have to save up AFTER you decide to buy something, they stopped replying.

What I really wanted to tell them was that you probably can't afford toys like that without a six-figure net worth...

Since you were only commenting on people generally, I am going to vote for "not jerk."

I had never heard of AITA before, and I really have no idea why the thread became a referendum on whether you were being one, or not. But since it did, I decided to put in a vote. Now, if you had commented on a particular person's plan to save up for the goggles, I would likely have voted differently.

I actually think that's pretty cool that you put that opinion out there, because most people would think that saving up to pay for a luxury is responsible, when the only contrast is with paying for a luxury with credit. I bet you got quite a few people thinking about how the spectrum of financial security extends into a realm they haven't considered before!

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8804 on: June 08, 2023, 08:34:48 AM »
That's generally the amount of money I save up for a trip, and I still take trips.  I'd say you were being a bit of a jerk on that one.

Note that I said if they "have to" save up for it because they "don't have the money", i.e. they can't buy it right now with assets on hand, their liquid assets are less than $3500, and they're choosing to save up and then spend 100% of their assets back down to zero on a tech toy. That person cannot afford it and I stand by that.

If you're doing that with your vacations I'd say you can't afford your vacations. But if you have a 3-month emergency fund and are saving 20% to a 401k or IRA and then another 5% towards your vacation fund, that's not quite the same scenario, is it?

And yeah, I was probably being a little bit of a jerk, but it was honestly alarming to me that someone that apparently had no money in the bank was trying to buy something worth $3500 with little practical use. Maybe they'll think twice about it. I don't care if they don't like me if they start rethinking their crazy spending habits.

Yeah, though you might sort of be correct, but not always. So it's hard to say if you're "TA". I have six-fig assets, and obviously not buying apple-glasses, but if I were I would have to "save up for it". Because my cashflow is set up so anything extra after standard expenses goes to investing. So no, I don't regularly have cash in checking account for $3500 toys. And I wouldn't want to sell VTSAX to fund it. I'd rather divert future investing cash towards it (just typing that makes me cringe, lol. But point still stands, if that's what one wanted to do).

Personally I probably have a too-large EF compared to most here, $10-20k, so something minor like $3.5k I'd just take out of savings and refill, because I'm confident I have the self- control to actually do that. But pretty sure most personal finance advisors recommend not to do that. So most people should "save up" for 3.5k purchase, either to not touch EF, and/or because everything else gets invested.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8805 on: June 08, 2023, 09:17:20 AM »
Yeah, though you might sort of be correct, but not always. So it's hard to say if you're "TA". I have six-fig assets, and obviously not buying apple-glasses, but if I were I would have to "save up for it". Because my cashflow is set up so anything extra after standard expenses goes to investing. So no, I don't regularly have cash in checking account for $3500 toys. And I wouldn't want to sell VTSAX to fund it. I'd rather divert future investing cash towards it (just typing that makes me cringe, lol. But point still stands, if that's what one wanted to do).

Personally I probably have a too-large EF compared to most here, $10-20k, so something minor like $3.5k I'd just take out of savings and refill, because I'm confident I have the self- control to actually do that. But pretty sure most personal finance advisors recommend not to do that. So most people should "save up" for 3.5k purchase, either to not touch EF, and/or because everything else gets invested.

We do the same.  After discovering MMM about a decade ago, I tracked spending for a while and then settled on a "number" that we need every month to pay standard expenses. That number is directly deposited into our checking account and all of the rest is auto-deducted into three other accounts (401k, HSA, high-yield savings account/EF).  That number hasn't really changed even though our expenses have increased over the years, so there's almost no wiggle room, although we can cash flow an unexpected car repair, etc.   So I agree with the bolded.

Our savings and EF are the same account - the first 20k is EF, everything after that is savings (goes to investments mostly, or home improvements, large unexpected expense, travel, etc).  I personally thinking 20k is low for an EF by MMM standards, I usually see higher balances on the forum.  But we have access to a crazy high line of credit card credit, HELOC, roth IRAs, HSA, and additional home equity if truly needed.  So I don't see the point in a larger EF.
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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8806 on: June 09, 2023, 08:46:21 AM »
I personally thinking 20k is low for an EF by MMM standards, I usually see higher balances on the forum.  But we have access to a crazy high line of credit card credit, HELOC, roth IRAs, HSA, and additional home equity if truly needed.  So I don't see the point in a larger EF.

I've seen both here. The people who prefer 6-12 months of expenses; so could be as high as $40k (50k?!). And the ones who say investments/heloc etc= EF, and cash is losing money; so $0-$1000 in savings account.

Sounds like we have the same in-between balance. I like to have 10-15k. Cover any sudden expenses, and calculating the "lost earnings" it's not that much. We're planning to do some renovations soon so I've been letting it build a little higher than usual. Above $20k I start to glare at that money; "why aren't you working harder??!" 


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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8807 on: June 10, 2023, 07:09:41 PM »

Note that I said if they "have to" save up for it because they "don't have the money", i.e. they can't buy it right now with assets on hand, their liquid assets are less than $3500, and they're choosing to save up and then spend 100% of their assets back down to zero on a tech toy. That person cannot afford it and I stand by that.

If you're doing that with your vacations I'd say you can't afford your vacations. But if you have a 3-month emergency fund and are saving 20% to a 401k or IRA and then another 5% towards your vacation fund, that's not quite the same scenario, is it?

And yeah, I was probably being a little bit of a jerk, but it was honestly alarming to me that someone that apparently had no money in the bank was trying to buy something worth $3500 with little practical use. Maybe they'll think twice about it. I don't care if they don't like me if they start rethinking their crazy spending habits.

I'm with Dollar Slice on this one. People may not want face punches (aka unwelcome advice), but they might need them. Watching people spend their money on frivolous things when they don't have an EF or retirement savings is as difficult for me as watching people do risky extreme sports without safety gear or jaywalking across a freeway. I feel torn between acknowledging people's right to freedom of choice and a responsibility to warn them of how close they are to calamity.

I wish that I could replicate the grace with which an old Captain of mine told me to read "The Wealthy Barber" when I was pissing away every paycheque in my early 20s.

 I just keep asking myself this question: if you are going to put your ideas on the internet, or social media, or whatever, doesn’t that make it fair game to question the principles behind the share? From that perspective, I don’t see a problem with @Dollar Slice sharing their opinion. It’s not like they went out looking for faces to punch. Someone popped up with a public pronouncement, and they responded.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8808 on: June 11, 2023, 06:38:21 AM »
Everyone on these forums forget that we didn’t sign up for external face punches, MMM advocating self-inflicted face punches. The important difference is that you self inflicted is part of a journey of discovery and learning.

Sure, speak up when you see others doing something stupid, but goodness it is important to choose your words carefully. Most people will be utterly dismissive of any harsh words because 1) they are entrenched in their world view and 2) they rightly assume that anyone coming at them with venom is just mean, and therefor discount what they are saying. Honey over vinegar, and all of that.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8809 on: June 11, 2023, 07:37:37 AM »
There were no "harsh words" or "venom," I assure you. Just a very mild post in the context of mostly people talking about how it was too expensive and for rich people only. Thanks for the ongoing negative assumptions, though! We're on, what, day six of Being Unable To Let This Go?

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8810 on: June 11, 2023, 04:57:13 PM »
There were no "harsh words" or "venom," I assure you. Just a very mild post in the context of mostly people talking about how it was too expensive and for rich people only. Thanks for the ongoing negative assumptions, though! We're on, what, day six of Being Unable To Let This Go?

Sorry I piled on.  It was meant as a joke but maybe a poor one

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8811 on: June 12, 2023, 03:35:51 PM »
There were no "harsh words" or "venom," I assure you. Just a very mild post in the context of mostly people talking about how it was too expensive and for rich people only. Thanks for the ongoing negative assumptions, though! We're on, what, day six of Being Unable To Let This Go?

Threads tend to have a mind of their own.  It's a bit silly to accuse posters of being unable to let it go when the conversation has naturally spun out like it commonly does in most other threads of high traffic.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8812 on: July 19, 2023, 06:52:23 PM »
I don't think it was a terrible comment, sure it could have been nicer but nice is often ignored. I also don't think "going on for 6 days" is a problem. I mean, there were less posts than days, I'm sure people were thinking about other things those 6 days and not just whether they found the comment offensive...
As Joker says, why so serious? :)

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8813 on: July 19, 2023, 11:13:43 PM »
As Joker says, why so serious? :)

Because I've been in excruciating pain since the beginning of June. Do you want to keep needling me now, Mr. Smiley Face who keeps bumping old threads because he's so desperate to troll the off topic forum? Or could you annoy some other stranger, pretty please?

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8814 on: July 20, 2023, 05:16:04 AM »
I might have to change my original answer about who is the A...

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8815 on: July 20, 2023, 08:35:12 AM »
Hmmm, I do know how to tell time and read dates, so let me inform you that this thread definitely isn't old.
Why are you in excruciating pain? What is needling? I've never owned a needle in my life...
Mr. Smiley Face would be the Joker. I'm not smiling.
I'm clearly not desperate since I'm posting 0.3 per day (some people still work), but it looks like you post 3.1 times a day, wow!

Thanks for teaching me a new phrase AITA, I had to look it up.
Hint: if you keep talking to me, I will keep responding, so you're not getting your desired outcome right now... A public forum probably isn't the best place for you while you're seeking solitude, haha! Now I'm smiling!


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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8816 on: July 20, 2023, 09:06:32 AM »
This foam was not interesting to start with and now it's getting nasty. Move on.

I'm not on FB much because of all the ads. They are annoying. However, the general mix of what I see on the local area's FB page is:
-complaining about fast food service/food/prices
-complaining about property taxes
-complaining about kids being kids (and occasionally, kids who really need parental supervision)
-lost dogs/cats. The cats are usually strays. The dogs are often repeat offenders, so owners clearly need to do something different.

It's not very interesting.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8817 on: July 20, 2023, 09:13:21 AM »
This foam was not interesting to start with and now it's getting nasty. Move on.

I'm not on FB much because of all the ads. They are annoying. However, the general mix of what I see on the local area's FB page is:
-complaining about fast food service/food/prices
-complaining about property taxes
-complaining about kids being kids (and occasionally, kids who really need parental supervision)
-lost dogs/cats. The cats are usually strays. The dogs are often repeat offenders, so owners clearly need to do something different.

It's not very interesting.

Haha...no doubt.  I swear...it seems like 90 percent of internet traffic on major social media sites are people complaining about absolutely everything.   

This is why I'm not on the major social media sites much at all.   Reddit is a major exception for me...and I really think the difference is because many of the communities I visit are moderated.   I also like smaller sites like here and other smaller forums targeted by interest ( PriusChat, etc... ).

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8818 on: July 20, 2023, 09:57:30 AM »
This foam was not interesting to start with and now it's getting nasty. Move on.

I'm not on FB much because of all the ads. They are annoying. H


I use a plugin called FB Purity, and it cleans up a lot of the ads. Very much better.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8819 on: July 20, 2023, 10:45:43 AM »

I'm clearly not desperate since I'm posting 0.3 per day

You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers in this racket.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8820 on: July 20, 2023, 11:16:36 AM »
-lost dogs/cats. The cats are usually strays. The dogs are often repeat offenders, so owners clearly need to do something different.
In our neighborhood group, there's one dog that escapes several times per year and goes exploring the neighborhood. Rather than get annoyed, we've adopted such incidents as a running gag, and its considered an honor if Rockne visits your house along his way.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8821 on: July 20, 2023, 11:52:07 AM »
This foam was not interesting to start with and now it's getting nasty. Move on.

I'm not on FB much because of all the ads. They are annoying. H


I use a plugin called FB Purity, and it cleans up a lot of the ads. Very much better.

That only gets rid of the ads, and at this point the ads are the most interesting content. I just am not on much.

I was on reddit a ton, and then reddit sold its soul to the devil so I deleted the app off my phone. Instant decrease in time.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8822 on: July 20, 2023, 01:11:04 PM »
-lost dogs/cats. The cats are usually strays. The dogs are often repeat offenders, so owners clearly need to do something different.
In our neighborhood group, there's one dog that escapes several times per year and goes exploring the neighborhood. Rather than get annoyed, we've adopted such incidents as a running gag, and its considered an honor if Rockne visits your house along his way.

Our old neighborhood, to which we are still adjacent, has a similar running gag with a neighborhood outdoor cat that catches rats, as well as two yard flamingos that are the unofficial neighborhood mascots. I do, at this point, prefer the community-building elements of FB (Buy Nothing groups, neighborhood groups, parent groups, etc.) to the "look at my kids on vacation and our instagram worthy pictures!" element of following people.

TBF, I just don't care that much about 90% of the people I'm "friends" with on FB.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8823 on: July 31, 2023, 07:54:36 PM »
-lost dogs/cats. The cats are usually strays. The dogs are often repeat offenders, so owners clearly need to do something different.
In our neighborhood group, there's one dog that escapes several times per year and goes exploring the neighborhood. Rather than get annoyed, we've adopted such incidents as a running gag, and its considered an honor if Rockne visits your house along his way.

Our old neighborhood, to which we are still adjacent, has a similar running gag with a neighborhood outdoor cat that catches rats, as well as two yard flamingos that are the unofficial neighborhood mascots. I do, at this point, prefer the community-building elements of FB (Buy Nothing groups, neighborhood groups, parent groups, etc.) to the "look at my kids on vacation and our instagram worthy pictures!" element of following people.

TBF, I just don't care that much about 90% of the people I'm "friends" with on FB.

Oh my old neighborhood FB group.  Someone who just moved in about the pretty Black and white cat.  The rest of us, that’s Fenway.  He’s not lost, the whole neighborhood is his kingdom.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8824 on: August 12, 2023, 10:57:50 PM »
For my FB I have:

1) consistently hidden every single ad, marking them randomly as not applicable or offensive or already purchased, or another option they offer. Do this for several days in a row and you get a break from ads. Do this every time the ads come back and so far I’ve been weeks with no ads.

2) curate your feed by unfollowing people you don’t care about, interacting with local groups you do care about, reading articles that interest you, etc. Every now and again I have to do that process again and clear out the clutter that has crept in.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8825 on: August 13, 2023, 08:05:12 AM »
For my FB I have:

1) consistently hidden every single ad, marking them randomly as not applicable or offensive or already purchased, or another option they offer. Do this for several days in a row and you get a break from ads. Do this every time the ads come back and so far I’ve been weeks with no ads.

2) curate your feed by unfollowing people you don’t care about, interacting with local groups you do care about, reading articles that interest you, etc. Every now and again I have to do that process again and clear out the clutter that has crept in.
FB Purity is your friend. Never see an ad on FB again! And hide all the clutter that the Algorithm inserts in your feed.

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« Reply #8826 on: August 13, 2023, 11:57:51 AM »
For my FB I have:

1) consistently hidden every single ad, marking them randomly as not applicable or offensive or already purchased, or another option they offer. Do this for several days in a row and you get a break from ads. Do this every time the ads come back and so far I’ve been weeks with no ads.

2) curate your feed by unfollowing people you don’t care about, interacting with local groups you do care about, reading articles that interest you, etc. Every now and again I have to do that process again and clear out the clutter that has crept in.
FB Purity is your friend. Never see an ad on FB again! And hide all the clutter that the Algorithm inserts in your feed.

+1000

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8827 on: August 13, 2023, 06:39:25 PM »
For my FB I have:

1) consistently hidden every single ad, marking them randomly as not applicable or offensive or already purchased, or another option they offer. Do this for several days in a row and you get a break from ads. Do this every time the ads come back and so far I’ve been weeks with no ads.

2) curate your feed by unfollowing people you don’t care about, interacting with local groups you do care about, reading articles that interest you, etc. Every now and again I have to do that process again and clear out the clutter that has crept in.
FB Purity is your friend. Never see an ad on FB again! And hide all the clutter that the Algorithm inserts in your feed.

+1000

Still think you're better off eschewing facebook entirely.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8828 on: August 13, 2023, 09:06:13 PM »
If it were all junk, sure. But I am part of some great groups that provide valuable information that is helpful, so I stick around.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8829 on: September 09, 2023, 11:56:04 AM »
Another new Starbucks cup has been acquired

Make that two this week now

It’s been a while, but I happened upon a post of a new Starbucks cup as well as a weird pumpkin shape looking bright pink Starbucks mug, which is a first.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8830 on: September 09, 2023, 02:10:10 PM »
I started liking every kids-back-to-school photo from my friends. What happened! Facebook fed me more back-to-school photos. It really does feed you what you spend time on. It was fun to see all the kid photos.

In the same way. Most political stuff has left my feed because I hide it or pause the people for 30 days. Not that things don’t come up, but it’s not a flood. If you consume the crap, they flood you with more crap.

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« Reply #8831 on: September 13, 2023, 10:43:30 AM »
I started liking every kids-back-to-school photo from my friends. What happened! Facebook fed me more back-to-school photos. It really does feed you what you spend time on. It was fun to see all the kid photos.

In the same way. Most political stuff has left my feed because I hide it or pause the people for 30 days. Not that things don’t come up, but it’s not a flood. If you consume the crap, they flood you with more crap.

Isn't this generally the case? Eat a Twinkie, go to the store for more Twinkies, and what do you find - a whole aisle full of similar monstrosities. Buy a schnazzy new car, go to the dealer for an oil change, and what do you find - a whole showroom full of even schnazzier cars and people eager to sell you one. Watch crappy TV and what do you find - ads for more crap, including crappy TV shows and crappy TVs. And on and on. Facebook and Google have just perfected and refined the algorithm for feeding you crap based on your history of crap.

I don't touch Facebook with a 10 foot pole. If someone from the past really wants to contact me, they can figure out where I am. I guess Google has made itself useful enough, and stayed relatively unobtrusive enough, that I don't feel quite so irritated with them.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8832 on: September 22, 2023, 11:58:44 AM »
I am pretty sure one of my friends is in an MLM that pushes affiliated marketing. She never posts anything that looks at all like affiliated marketing, but she posts about affiliated marketing everyday, including offering to hook us all up with how to get started. Time to snooze her again.

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« Reply #8833 on: September 27, 2023, 08:45:06 AM »
I started liking every kids-back-to-school photo from my friends. What happened! Facebook fed me more back-to-school photos. It really does feed you what you spend time on. It was fun to see all the kid photos.

In the same way. Most political stuff has left my feed because I hide it or pause the people for 30 days. Not that things don’t come up, but it’s not a flood. If you consume the crap, they flood you with more crap.

Their algorithm truly is garbage. I also generally only use facebook for buy nothing groups, marketplace and groups for various interests. For example I joined a great rec soccer team via fb groups, and found good hiking and paddling places.
But for one, most of my fb friends hardly post anything anymore. And if they do, fb has decided that it's more important to repeatedly show me an event that happed a week ago (seriously, the date is in the post!!), than stuff my actual friends post. Looking at the "posted date" in the feed is ridiculous. Constantly recycling stuff that's 5+ days old, that I've seen several times. They're supposed to be "great with data", but they can't tell that I've scrolled past it before, or that this even has already happed??! (yes I use adblock and FBpurity to block all sponsored stuff and ads, also filter out any MLM-sounding things).
I have no concerns facebook will accidentally invent skynet, since they are all clearly incompetent idiots!

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8834 on: September 27, 2023, 09:28:05 AM »
Their algorithm truly is garbage. I also generally only use facebook for buy nothing groups, marketplace and groups for various interests. For example I joined a great rec soccer team via fb groups, and found good hiking and paddling places.
But for one, most of my fb friends hardly post anything anymore. And if they do, fb has decided that it's more important to repeatedly show me an event that happed a week ago (seriously, the date is in the post!!), than stuff my actual friends post. Looking at the "posted date" in the feed is ridiculous. Constantly recycling stuff that's 5+ days old, that I've seen several times. They're supposed to be "great with data", but they can't tell that I've scrolled past it before, or that this even has already happed??! (yes I use adblock and FBpurity to block all sponsored stuff and ads, also filter out any MLM-sounding things).
I have no concerns facebook will accidentally invent skynet, since they are all clearly incompetent idiots!
Agreed 100%.  It keeps showing me posts from friends/groups I've already seen, and doesn't show me other content that those friends and groups have since posted.

I have two suggestions for you:
1) install the FB Purity extension in your browser
2) ignore the main FB page, and use the "Feeds" page instead (https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr)

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8835 on: September 28, 2023, 06:09:05 PM »
Their algorithm truly is garbage. I also generally only use facebook for buy nothing groups, marketplace and groups for various interests. For example I joined a great rec soccer team via fb groups, and found good hiking and paddling places.
But for one, most of my fb friends hardly post anything anymore. And if they do, fb has decided that it's more important to repeatedly show me an event that happed a week ago (seriously, the date is in the post!!), than stuff my actual friends post. Looking at the "posted date" in the feed is ridiculous. Constantly recycling stuff that's 5+ days old, that I've seen several times. They're supposed to be "great with data", but they can't tell that I've scrolled past it before, or that this even has already happed??! (yes I use adblock and FBpurity to block all sponsored stuff and ads, also filter out any MLM-sounding things).
I have no concerns facebook will accidentally invent skynet, since they are all clearly incompetent idiots!
Agreed 100%.  It keeps showing me posts from friends/groups I've already seen, and doesn't show me other content that those friends and groups have since posted.

I have two suggestions for you:
1) install the FB Purity extension in your browser
2) ignore the main FB page, and use the "Feeds" page instead (https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr)

Thanks, that did seem to have more "friends" than it usually does. The only reason I scroll fb is because my youngest son asks for "babies" and nobody posts on fb more than people with babies. Otherwise I use it to find local events and for market place.

If he sees I have the forum up he will ask where is the "doggy" which is metal cat's avatar.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8836 on: September 29, 2023, 11:03:00 AM »
Not Overheard on FB, but "mysterious changes" to an account.
I don't have a FB account but my wife does. But she never logs into it unless we're going to old country and she wants to let her friends know she's coming over and if they can meet up. She had all notifications switched off (email, SMS). About 2 weeks ago, she started getting about 5-10 notification emails daily. Most of them were stupid like "Joe uploaded a photo" and "Jane commented on Jack's post" and other nonsense. I had to do some reconfiguring on my pi-hole to allow FB on one computer, log into her account. Lo and behold, every single damn notification option was turned up to "hell yeah, hit me baby with that spam".
Went thru all options, there's so many fugging sliders for granularity, but no single shut-that-notification-shit-off.
After changes were done and saved, etc. set the pi-hole back to disallow FB in my home network.
Goddamn FB, you fucking suck like the Zuck!
My IT-sixth-sense says that because she hadn't logged into the account in over a year, FB deliberately reset the notification options in order to make her log in and see activity and get her interested in FB. Rope-a-dope method.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8837 on: September 29, 2023, 12:57:14 PM »
Not Overheard on FB, but "mysterious changes" to an account.
I don't have a FB account but my wife does. But she never logs into it unless we're going to old country and she wants to let her friends know she's coming over and if they can meet up. She had all notifications switched off (email, SMS). About 2 weeks ago, she started getting about 5-10 notification emails daily. Most of them were stupid like "Joe uploaded a photo" and "Jane commented on Jack's post" and other nonsense. I had to do some reconfiguring on my pi-hole to allow FB on one computer, log into her account. Lo and behold, every single damn notification option was turned up to "hell yeah, hit me baby with that spam".
Went thru all options, there's so many fugging sliders for granularity, but no single shut-that-notification-shit-off.
After changes were done and saved, etc. set the pi-hole back to disallow FB in my home network.
Goddamn FB, you fucking suck like the Zuck!
My IT-sixth-sense says that because she hadn't logged into the account in over a year, FB deliberately reset the notification options in order to make her log in and see activity and get her interested in FB. Rope-a-dope method.

Yeah, I killed my FB account,. I had several reasons, but the ongoing stupidity was a factor. I've come to believe that if I'm using a free digital product, I somehow am the product.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8838 on: September 29, 2023, 01:38:35 PM »
Not Overheard on FB, but "mysterious changes" to an account.
I don't have a FB account but my wife does. But she never logs into it unless we're going to old country and she wants to let her friends know she's coming over and if they can meet up. She had all notifications switched off (email, SMS). About 2 weeks ago, she started getting about 5-10 notification emails daily. Most of them were stupid like "Joe uploaded a photo" and "Jane commented on Jack's post" and other nonsense. I had to do some reconfiguring on my pi-hole to allow FB on one computer, log into her account. Lo and behold, every single damn notification option was turned up to "hell yeah, hit me baby with that spam".
Went thru all options, there's so many fugging sliders for granularity, but no single shut-that-notification-shit-off.
After changes were done and saved, etc. set the pi-hole back to disallow FB in my home network.
Goddamn FB, you fucking suck like the Zuck!
My IT-sixth-sense says that because she hadn't logged into the account in over a year, FB deliberately reset the notification options in order to make her log in and see activity and get her interested in FB. Rope-a-dope method.

Yeah, I killed my FB account,. I had several reasons, but the ongoing stupidity was a factor. I've come to believe that if I'm using a free digital product, I somehow am the product.

I should think about deleting my account.  Mine is still there...but has had absolutely no updates since 2010 or so!  It is a strange time capsule looking back at it.



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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8839 on: October 11, 2023, 05:41:23 AM »
Today's absolutely bonkers facebook marketplace find: a washer/dryer set, retailing at 2,400 for the set, for $50.

Seller says the door seal is leaking on the washer, and the repairman they had out to come look at it "never came back", so they bought a brand new set. Yes, a brand new washer AND dryer, because the washer door seal (a $200 part) needs replacing. I guess they needed the matched set.

I'm just...baffled. I kind of feel sorry for them? Is this how people live? At the mercy of the slightest thing going wrong because you don't have the skills to do basic repairs?

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8840 on: October 11, 2023, 07:09:02 AM »
Today's absolutely bonkers facebook marketplace find: a washer/dryer set, retailing at 2,400 for the set, for $50.

Seller says the door seal is leaking on the washer, and the repairman they had out to come look at it "never came back", so they bought a brand new set. Yes, a brand new washer AND dryer, because the washer door seal (a $200 part) needs replacing. I guess they needed the matched set.

I'm just...baffled. I kind of feel sorry for them? Is this how people live? At the mercy of the slightest thing going wrong because you don't have the skills to do basic repairs?

And the necessity to having a matching washer/dryer?  I can understand starting out with a set, often there are major savings when buying all the same brand.  But for a replacement?

Apparently yes. I have bought almost new microwaves and kettles and such because people were moving and the appliance would't match the new place.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8841 on: October 11, 2023, 07:18:31 AM »
Today's absolutely bonkers facebook marketplace find: a washer/dryer set, retailing at 2,400 for the set, for $50.

Seller says the door seal is leaking on the washer, and the repairman they had out to come look at it "never came back", so they bought a brand new set. Yes, a brand new washer AND dryer, because the washer door seal (a $200 part) needs replacing. I guess they needed the matched set.

I'm just...baffled. I kind of feel sorry for them? Is this how people live? At the mercy of the slightest thing going wrong because you don't have the skills to do basic repairs?

And the necessity to having a matching washer/dryer?  I can understand starting out with a set, often there are major savings when buying all the same brand.  But for a replacement?

Apparently yes. I have bought almost new microwaves and kettles and such because people were moving and the appliance would't match the new place.

I say no.  But I don't even have a dryer anymore since it turns out there's this thing called air that works the same way.  :P

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8842 on: October 11, 2023, 07:22:42 AM »
Today's absolutely bonkers facebook marketplace find: a washer/dryer set, retailing at 2,400 for the set, for $50.

Seller says the door seal is leaking on the washer, and the repairman they had out to come look at it "never came back", so they bought a brand new set. Yes, a brand new washer AND dryer, because the washer door seal (a $200 part) needs replacing. I guess they needed the matched set.

I'm just...baffled. I kind of feel sorry for them? Is this how people live? At the mercy of the slightest thing going wrong because you don't have the skills to do basic repairs?

And the necessity to having a matching washer/dryer?  I can understand starting out with a set, often there are major savings when buying all the same brand.  But for a replacement?

Apparently yes. I have bought almost new microwaves and kettles and such because people were moving and the appliance would't match the new place.

I say no.  But I don't even have a dryer anymore since it turns out there's this thing called air that works the same way.  :P

Embrace nudism so you can eliminate the washer as well

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8843 on: October 11, 2023, 07:37:46 AM »
I've actually re-engaged with FB recently, at least when I'm out in rural Newfoundland. It's the main place to get community information.

There's no politics, virtually no contentious opinions about anything, just info about live music, organized hikes, dog photos, listings for used items, and absolutely hysterical memes. It's actually really pleasant.

Leave it to the Newfies to make FB a nice place.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8844 on: October 11, 2023, 07:45:29 AM »
Today's absolutely bonkers facebook marketplace find: a washer/dryer set, retailing at 2,400 for the set, for $50.

Seller says the door seal is leaking on the washer, and the repairman they had out to come look at it "never came back", so they bought a brand new set. Yes, a brand new washer AND dryer, because the washer door seal (a $200 part) needs replacing. I guess they needed the matched set.

I'm just...baffled. I kind of feel sorry for them? Is this how people live? At the mercy of the slightest thing going wrong because you don't have the skills to do basic repairs?

And the necessity to having a matching washer/dryer?  I can understand starting out with a set, often there are major savings when buying all the same brand.  But for a replacement?

Apparently yes. I have bought almost new microwaves and kettles and such because people were moving and the appliance would't match the new place.

I say no.  But I don't even have a dryer anymore since it turns out there's this thing called air that works the same way.  :P

Embrace nudism so you can eliminate the washer as well

It's a tough sell in Canadian winters.

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8845 on: October 11, 2023, 08:32:23 AM »
Today's absolutely bonkers facebook marketplace find: a washer/dryer set, retailing at 2,400 for the set, for $50.

Seller says the door seal is leaking on the washer, and the repairman they had out to come look at it "never came back", so they bought a brand new set. Yes, a brand new washer AND dryer, because the washer door seal (a $200 part) needs replacing. I guess they needed the matched set.

I'm just...baffled. I kind of feel sorry for them? Is this how people live? At the mercy of the slightest thing going wrong because you don't have the skills to do basic repairs?

And the necessity to having a matching washer/dryer?  I can understand starting out with a set, often there are major savings when buying all the same brand.  But for a replacement?

Apparently yes. I have bought almost new microwaves and kettles and such because people were moving and the appliance would't match the new place.

I say no.  But I don't even have a dryer anymore since it turns out there's this thing called air that works the same way.  :P

Embrace nudism so you can eliminate the washer as well

It's a tough sell in Canadian winters.

Dude, aren't you in Toronto? Does that even count as winter?

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8846 on: October 11, 2023, 08:52:46 AM »
Today's absolutely bonkers facebook marketplace find: a washer/dryer set, retailing at 2,400 for the set, for $50.

Seller says the door seal is leaking on the washer, and the repairman they had out to come look at it "never came back", so they bought a brand new set. Yes, a brand new washer AND dryer, because the washer door seal (a $200 part) needs replacing. I guess they needed the matched set.

I'm just...baffled. I kind of feel sorry for them? Is this how people live? At the mercy of the slightest thing going wrong because you don't have the skills to do basic repairs?

And the necessity to having a matching washer/dryer?  I can understand starting out with a set, often there are major savings when buying all the same brand.  But for a replacement?

Apparently yes. I have bought almost new microwaves and kettles and such because people were moving and the appliance would't match the new place.

I say no.  But I don't even have a dryer anymore since it turns out there's this thing called air that works the same way.  :P

Embrace nudism so you can eliminate the washer as well

It's a tough sell in Canadian winters.

Dude, aren't you in Toronto? Does that even count as winter?

I dunno, you be the judge.  This is my vehicle post winter commute, before being cleaned:

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8847 on: October 11, 2023, 10:20:45 AM »
I dunno, you be the judge.  This is my vehicle post winter commute, before being cleaned:


Wow, that looks like a fair amount of snow, it must have lasted at least a week ;)

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8848 on: October 12, 2023, 01:29:45 AM »
Don't worry it will buff out!

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Re: Overheard on Facebook
« Reply #8849 on: October 13, 2023, 10:53:21 AM »
I usually don't have anything to contribute here since I generally check Facebook once per day (if that), however I saw one in my local town page that made me go, "holy fuck!" Someone was asking about other cell carriers than Verizon. They love the service (only one in the area that works everywhere), but their $275 a month bill was getting to be too much, and they were going to need to add phones for their kids soon. Several other people saved me the trouble of sharing about Total by Verizon (our plan) - $100/month for four lines. I just can't comprehend that people are willing to pay that much money each month just to have the latest iPhone. smh

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!