Overheard on Facebook

[MandalayVA]

I think the point is that people who equate their staying a nice, cordoned off resort to some sort of true understanding of the culture of the host country are the freaking worst. A sentiment I think this classic Onion article gets at nicely.

So you're saying a 4hour layover in Newark airport doesn't represent the full cultural experience of visiting New Jersey ?

How about a drive down the NJ turnpike?  At least on that ride you have to figure out that NJ only has full serve gas stations...I was SO confused.

Every time we return to my native land I have to remind Mr. Mandalay not to get out of the car when he's filling it up.  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Then there's the opposite problem--when I made my initial visit to Kentucky years ago it was my first time driving out of state.  I needed gas, so I pulled into a SuperAmerica.  The instructions were easy enough, but somehow I managed to get entangled in the hose and fell flat on my face.  I looked up to see two guys inside the convenience busting a gut laughing.  One guy stuck his head out and yelled "second I saw the New Jersey plates I knew this would be good!"  In true Jersey girl fashion I gave him the finger, untangled myself, and successfully filled the tank.  :D 

[TheGrimSqueaker]

I think the point is that people who equate their staying a nice, cordoned off resort to some sort of true understanding of the culture of the host country are the freaking worst. A sentiment I think this classic Onion article gets at nicely.

So you're saying a 4hour layover in Newark airport doesn't represent the full cultural experience of visiting New Jersey ?

How about a drive down the NJ turnpike?  At least on that ride you have to figure out that NJ only has full serve gas stations...I was SO confused.

Every time we return to my native land I have to remind Mr. Mandalay not to get out of the car when he's filling it up.  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Then there's the opposite problem--when I made my initial visit to Kentucky years ago it was my first time driving out of state.  I needed gas, so I pulled into a SuperAmerica.  The instructions were easy enough, but somehow I managed to get entangled in the hose and fell flat on my face.  I looked up to see two guys inside the convenience busting a gut laughing.  One guy stuck his head out and yelled "second I saw the New Jersey plates I knew this would be good!"  In true Jersey girl fashion I gave him the finger, untangled myself, and successfully filled the tank.  :D

Is there any truth to the rumor that it's illegal to fill up your own gas tank in NJ?

[MandalayVA]

Is there any truth to the rumor that it's illegal to fill up your own gas tank in NJ?

It's very true, ostensibly because Jersey natives could not be trusted not to blow up everything, but I know that over the years bills have been introduced to overturn the law.  They always fail because of politics and lazy people who don't want to pump their own gas. 

(hangs head in shame since Mr. Mandalay always fills my car up for me; I don't remember the last time I pumped my own gas)

[zolotiyeruki]

It's very true, ostensibly because Jersey natives could not be trusted not to blow up everything, but I know that over the years bills have been introduced to overturn the law.  They always fail because of politics and lazy people who don't want to pump their own gas. 

Oregon is the same way IIRC (or was it WA?).  Confused the heck out of me when we were there a few years back.

[Neustache]

Yes, Oregon is the same.  We managed to not stop for gas from WA to CA all because my husband didn't want to deal with someone else pumping our gas.  We made it, barely.  Got a little dicey towards the end as it was rural and gas stations were not close together. 

[andy85]

*emojis: kissyface, heart, coffee, microphone emojis*
#gM I buy ANYTHING I want, 'cause I got a #ChEck
*emojis: stack of money, credit card, stack of money with wings, bag of money, sleepy face emojis*

ugh..just whatever

[MgoSam]

I think the point is that people who equate their staying a nice, cordoned off resort to some sort of true understanding of the culture of the host country are the freaking worst. A sentiment I think this classic Onion article gets at nicely.

So you're saying a 4hour layover in Newark airport doesn't represent the full cultural experience of visiting New Jersey ?

How about a drive down the NJ turnpike?  At least on that ride you have to figure out that NJ only has full serve gas stations...I was SO confused.

Every time we return to my native land I have to remind Mr. Mandalay not to get out of the car when he's filling it up.  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Then there's the opposite problem--when I made my initial visit to Kentucky years ago it was my first time driving out of state.  I needed gas, so I pulled into a SuperAmerica.  The instructions were easy enough, but somehow I managed to get entangled in the hose and fell flat on my face.  I looked up to see two guys inside the convenience busting a gut laughing.  One guy stuck his head out and yelled "second I saw the New Jersey plates I knew this would be good!"  In true Jersey girl fashion I gave him the finger, untangled myself, and successfully filled the tank.  :D

Is there any truth to the rumor that it's illegal to fill up your own gas tank in NJ?

Do places charge a premium for doing so? I recall when I was child seeing stations that has self-pump and non, and from what I remember, the non-self pumps might have costed more?

[Goldielocks]

Posted by an MLM friend.

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I allow the price tags to motivate me
#bossbabe

I don't get it.  Can someone explain.?    Motivated too...  stop spending?  Run more?  ???

[dragoncar]

I think the point is that people who equate their staying a nice, cordoned off resort to some sort of true understanding of the culture of the host country are the freaking worst. A sentiment I think this classic Onion article gets at nicely.

So you're saying a 4hour layover in Newark airport doesn't represent the full cultural experience of visiting New Jersey ?

How about a drive down the NJ turnpike?  At least on that ride you have to figure out that NJ only has full serve gas stations...I was SO confused.

Every time we return to my native land I have to remind Mr. Mandalay not to get out of the car when he's filling it up.  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Then there's the opposite problem--when I made my initial visit to Kentucky years ago it was my first time driving out of state.  I needed gas, so I pulled into a SuperAmerica.  The instructions were easy enough, but somehow I managed to get entangled in the hose and fell flat on my face.  I looked up to see two guys inside the convenience busting a gut laughing.  One guy stuck his head out and yelled "second I saw the New Jersey plates I knew this would be good!"  In true Jersey girl fashion I gave him the finger, untangled myself, and successfully filled the tank.  :D

Is there any truth to the rumor that it's illegal to fill up your own gas tank in NJ?

Do places charge a premium for doing so? I recall when I was child seeing stations that has self-pump and non, and from what I remember, the non-self pumps might have costed more?

I'm sure it costs more than if there was no law, but NJ typically has lower gas prices because their gas taxes are lower.  So in the end, you get service at a discount.

One time I unknowingly crossed into NJ and stopped at a station.  Got out and started pumping my gas.  Guy came out and said "can I help you?"  Me, being oblivious, gave a strange look and said "uh, no thanks."  Attendant gets huffy and says "well FINE!" and walks away.  It wasn't until I went into work the next day and told my coworkers the story that we figured out what likely happened.

[MgoSam]

I think the point is that people who equate their staying a nice, cordoned off resort to some sort of true understanding of the culture of the host country are the freaking worst. A sentiment I think this classic Onion article gets at nicely.

So you're saying a 4hour layover in Newark airport doesn't represent the full cultural experience of visiting New Jersey ?

How about a drive down the NJ turnpike?  At least on that ride you have to figure out that NJ only has full serve gas stations...I was SO confused.

Every time we return to my native land I have to remind Mr. Mandalay not to get out of the car when he's filling it up.  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Then there's the opposite problem--when I made my initial visit to Kentucky years ago it was my first time driving out of state.  I needed gas, so I pulled into a SuperAmerica.  The instructions were easy enough, but somehow I managed to get entangled in the hose and fell flat on my face.  I looked up to see two guys inside the convenience busting a gut laughing.  One guy stuck his head out and yelled "second I saw the New Jersey plates I knew this would be good!"  In true Jersey girl fashion I gave him the finger, untangled myself, and successfully filled the tank.  :D

Is there any truth to the rumor that it's illegal to fill up your own gas tank in NJ?

Do places charge a premium for doing so? I recall when I was child seeing stations that has self-pump and non, and from what I remember, the non-self pumps might have costed more?

I'm sure it costs more than if there was no law, but NJ typically has lower gas prices because their gas taxes are lower.  So in the end, you get service at a discount.

One time I unknowingly crossed into NJ and stopped at a station.  Got out and started pumping my gas.  Guy came out and said "can I help you?"  Me, being oblivious, gave a strange look and said "uh, no thanks."  Attendant gets huffy and says "well FINE!" and walks away.  It wasn't until I went into work the next day and told my coworkers the story that we figured out what likely happened.

That's kinda funny, you're sparing the guy from working. Most people would thank you. Though I suppose, as it is NJ, you are probably lucky that he didn't curse you out.

[runningthroughFIRE]

Posted by an MLM friend.

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I allow the price tags to motivate me
#bossbabe

I don't get it.  Can someone explain.?    Motivated too...  stop spending?  Run more?  ???

Motivated to earn more so they can afford to blow more money on luxury shit

[Zikoris]

Posted by an MLM friend.

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I allow the price tags to motivate me
#bossbabe

I don't get it.  Can someone explain.?    Motivated too...  stop spending?  Run more?  ???

Motivated to scam more people into joining their pyramid scheme so they can steal their money to buy overpriced junk. I'm a cynic.

[astvilla]

Having lived in NJ and never having had to pump gas in other states, there are pros and cons to not pumping your own.

You don't have to get out in the freezing cold or open door to pump gas.  Unfortunately you do have to open the window to talk to the attendant.

Not knowing how to pump gas can be embarrassing.  I'll go on a roadtrip and pump gas in PA, and just stare and look clueless.  They'll look at me funny and look at the license plate, "Oh I get it." 

I think it's cheap also cause we have a lot of oil refineries in NJ so the shipping is less I think.  But the gas tax is ridiculously low and they should revise the law so that only in Winter are we not allowed to self-serve but in spring and summer we can self-serve.

[AlanStache]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

What next, we will discuss how great it is in Iowa where you cant use chopsticks yourself and have hire a professional to feed you sushi?  But then how much is the xmass tip for your regular chopstick operator? 

/sarcasm!!!!1  (and the Iowa thing is made up.)

[MgoSam]

they should revise the law so that only in Winter are we not allowed to self-serve but in spring and summer we can self-serve.

The problem with laws are that once they are implemented, it takes quite a lot to reverse them. That's why there are arcane laws on the book, such as how it is illegal to cross the street on your hands, or how in Delaware it's illegal to pawn a wooden leg.

In this particular case, as with the laws I mentioned before, is that there generally just isn't any political will to do so. If it was put to an up or down vote, I doubt there would be any opposition, but it takes effort to get a bill up for a vote.

[fruitfly]

In Oregon they modified the full serve law to exclude diesel (I assume for truck drivers' convenience but technically I can pump my own diesel into my TDI). I'm never sure why people get so crazed about it. It adds ~5 minutes (at most) to the gas stop. Everyone has 5 minutes.

[Argyle]

The story we hear is that Oregon wanted to preserve the jobs of gas station attendents. I don't care why they made the law — I love it.  Always get grouchy in other states when I have to get out of the car and fuss with the card reader in Arctic weather, or march inside and pre-pay, and pump the gas and go through the hassle and get half-frozen or soaked by the blowing rain.  If the state wants me to stay warm and dry inside my car while someone does it for me, and that someone gets to keep his job, that's win-win in my book.

[MgoSam]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

You expect consistency on a place within the Internet?

[AlanStache]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

You expect consistency on a place within the Internet?

Expect? No.  Just pointing out how crazy this place is sometimes.  :-)

[JLee]

they should revise the law so that only in Winter are we not allowed to self-serve but in spring and summer we can self-serve.

The problem with laws are that once they are implemented, it takes quite a lot to reverse them. That's why there are arcane laws on the book, such as how it is illegal to cross the street on your hands, or how in Delaware it's illegal to pawn a wooden leg.

In this particular case, as with the laws I mentioned before, is that there generally just isn't any political will to do so. If it was put to an up or down vote, I doubt there would be any opposition, but it takes effort to get a bill up for a vote.

In Bergen County NJ it's illegal to buy clothing on Sunday...

[dragoncar]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

You expect consistency on a place within the Internet?

Expect? No.  Just pointing out how crazy this place is sometimes.  :-)

It's not even inconsistent though, since as stated above the full-service NJ gas is cheaper than neighboring states self-serve.  If the total cost of operating a leaf blower was lower than that of a rake, people might feel differently (come to think of it, my leaf blower was free so it probably is cheaper to run it than to buy a rake)

[MgoSam]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

You expect consistency on a place within the Internet?

Expect? No.  Just pointing out how crazy this place is sometimes.  :-)

Fair enough, and yeah the contrast is funny to consider....leaf blower=bad, full service pump=good.

[HairyUpperLip]

  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Oh really?

I'm trying to picture this.

A white American couple pulls up to the gas pump.

Your husband gets out of the car and then some gas station attendant runs over and yells at him "PAKISTANI!" 

That is so weird.

[charis]

  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Oh really?

I'm trying to picture this.

A white American couple pulls up to the gas pump.

Your husband gets out of the car and then some gas station attendant runs over and yells at him "PAKISTANI!" 

That is so weird.

I believe she meant that the attendant was cursing at her husband in an unspecified language spoken by Pakistani people.  But that's just a wild guess.

[JAYSLOL]

Posted by an MLM friend.

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I allow the price tags to motivate me
#bossbabe

I don't get it.  Can someone explain.?    Motivated too...  stop spending?  Run more?  ???

Motivated to scam more people into joining their pyramid scheme so they can steal their money to buy overpriced junk. I'm a cynic.

I think this should be remade for MMM followers into

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I don't want this shit anyway
#Badass #MiddleFinger

[MgoSam]

  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Oh really?

I'm trying to picture this.

A white American couple pulls up to the gas pump.

Your husband gets out of the car and then some gas station attendant runs over and yells at him "PAKISTANI!" 

That is so weird.

I believe she meant that the attendant was cursing at her husband in an unspecified language spoken by Pakistani people.  But that's just a wild guess.

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. It's sad how many people will ask me, "How do you say ___ in Indian?" Reminds me of this clip from the Indian-Canadian comedian Russell Peters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQqzROAZZQ0

[Pooperman]

  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Oh really?

I'm trying to picture this.

A white American couple pulls up to the gas pump.

Your husband gets out of the car and then some gas station attendant runs over and yells at him "PAKISTANI!" 

That is so weird.

I believe she meant that the attendant was cursing at her husband in an unspecified language spoken by Pakistani people.  But that's just a wild guess.

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. It's sad how many people will ask me, "How do you say ___ in Indian?" Reminds me of this clip from the Indian-Canadian comedian Russell Peters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQqzROAZZQ0

Reply: "How do you say 'Fuck You' in White?"

[Ceridwen]

Posted by an MLM friend.

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I allow the price tags to motivate me
#bossbabe

I don't get it.  Can someone explain.?    Motivated too...  stop spending?  Run more?  ???

Motivated to scam more people into joining their pyramid scheme so they can steal their money to buy overpriced junk. I'm a cynic.

I think this should be remade for MMM followers into

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I don't want this shit anyway
#Badass #MiddleFinger

Love it!

[dragoncar]

  Once he did and the attendant cursed him out in Pakistani.

Oh really?

I'm trying to picture this.

A white American couple pulls up to the gas pump.

Your husband gets out of the car and then some gas station attendant runs over and yells at him "PAKISTANI!" 

That is so weird.

I believe she meant that the attendant was cursing at her husband in an unspecified language spoken by Pakistani people.  But that's just a wild guess.

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. It's sad how many people will ask me, "How do you say ___ in Indian?" Reminds me of this clip from the Indian-Canadian comedian Russell Peters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQqzROAZZQ0

Reply: "How do you say 'Fuck You' in White?"

Seems overly pedantic to me.  "How do you say hello in American?" "Well there no language called American but in Jersian we say 'fuck you!'"

Posted by an MLM friend.

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I allow the price tags to motivate me
#bossbabe

I don't get it.  Can someone explain.?    Motivated too...  stop spending?  Run more?  ???

Motivated to scam more people into joining their pyramid scheme so they can steal their money to buy overpriced junk. I'm a cynic.

I think this should be remade for MMM followers into

I don't allow the price tags to scare me
I don't want this shit anyway
#Badass #MiddleFinger

Love it!

I don't allow price tags to scare me
They motivate me to make my own stuff
#DIY #allmustachesmatter

[whitewaterchica]

After being doused in gasoline while filling my tank in PA, I am pretty grateful for full service in NJ. The hose failed and the dopes that worked inside the minimart just looked at me like "what do you want us to do?" when I went inside to alert them to the huge safety issue. Yeah, a few expletives might have been thrown around- it is damn scary to be doused in gasoline and I *am* from Jersey, after all.

[dragoncar]

After being doused in gasoline while filling my tank in PA, I am pretty grateful for full service in NJ. The hose failed and the dopes that worked inside the minimart just looked at me like "what do you want us to do?" when I went inside to alert them to the huge safety issue. Yeah, a few expletives might have been thrown around- it is damn scary to be doused in gasoline and I *am* from Jersey, after all.

Never forget

[MgoSam]

After being doused in gasoline while filling my tank in PA, I am pretty grateful for full service in NJ. The hose failed and the dopes that worked inside the minimart just looked at me like "what do you want us to do?" when I went inside to alert them to the huge safety issue. Yeah, a few expletives might have been thrown around- it is damn scary to be doused in gasoline and I *am* from Jersey, after all.

Never forget

Well played!

[jorjor]

I've seen 3 or 4 people post the attached pic on Facebook now.

[CabinetGuy]

Second time this gem has popped up on our local FB yard sale/swap page:


Take over my lease! 2014 Ford Explorer XLR. Leather, navigation, back up camera, dual sunroof, third row. Excellent condition. Have 11 month left on this lease. Payments are $496, next payment due December 26th. Mileage: 26,000 currently. By the end of the lease it must have up to 36,000. If you lease/buy another Ford in the end of this lease, they forgive any extra miles.
Here's how it works: Ford Credit charges $50 for a credit check (must have good credit, they are pretty strict about that). If everything is well, we both sign paperwork and the car is yours.
We put $2000 down when signing the lease, you have $0 down. In fact, I am offering an incentive of $300 cash to whoever is able to take over this lease.
I am not in a position to offer any assistance for anyone requiring credit help, so please, only candidates who know their credit is good enough to take on a lease.
Please message me with any questions. Thank you.

[JordanOfGilead]

I've seen 3 or 4 people post the attached pic on Facebook now.

I mean, that's kind of how it should be. Mustachians don't keep their money in a bank account, right? ;)

[Eric222]

Second time this gem has popped up on our local FB yard sale/swap page:


Take over my lease! 2014 Ford Explorer XLR. Leather, navigation, back up camera, dual sunroof, third row. Excellent condition. Have 11 month left on this lease. Payments are $496, next payment due December 26th. Mileage: 26,000 currently. By the end of the lease it must have up to 36,000. If you lease/buy another Ford in the end of this lease, they forgive any extra miles.
Here's how it works: Ford Credit charges $50 for a credit check (must have good credit, they are pretty strict about that). If everything is well, we both sign paperwork and the car is yours.
We put $2000 down when signing the lease, you have $0 down. In fact, I am offering an incentive of $300 cash to whoever is able to take over this lease.
I am not in a position to offer any assistance for anyone requiring credit help, so please, only candidates who know their credit is good enough to take on a lease.
Please message me with any questions. Thank you.

I'd do it!  If the incentive was $500x the number of months left in the lease.... oh wait, then I'd still have to pay for gas.  Nvm. :P

[jorjor]

I've seen 3 or 4 people post the attached pic on Facebook now.

I mean, that's kind of how it should be. Mustachians don't keep their money in a bank account, right? ;)

Somehow, I don't think that's what they were going for. :)

[CabinetGuy]

And another one!  Gotta love the holidays!  Perfect time to make extra money off of your gullible friends!:

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1. Holiday parties are the PERFECT time to start sharing your business and setting goals! You will see a ton of people with skin who want to support you! Out of town friends and relatives, co-workers' spouses, and meeting new friends!

2. Receive a paycheck in January to help pay for all the Holiday spending! {The start of RESIDUAL INCOME!} 💸

3. Give Gifts from your business kit and R+F store to your friends, family, teachers, Secret Santa exchanges, etc... And at the same time build your client base! #WinWin

4. Tax write-offs for 2015!!! Don't let this pass you up! Saved me $$$

5. Gift giving season provides a great time to give mini-facials to everyone you know with skin! You'll have access to Award-Winning skincare that they can only purchase from an R+F Consultant: YOU!

6. Capitalize on Rodan + Fields' limited time offer to earn back the ENTIRE COST of your Biz Kit before it ends! I did it before this offer existed just with my paycheck and I will teach you HOW!

7. Leverage our Global Expansion ~ join now so you're ready for our expansion into Australia in 2016! We expanded into Canada earlier this year and we sell to Puerto Rico! In Australia with a US address?! Even better!!! Let's get you going!

8. Take advantage of a HUGE SIGN ON BONUS ending December - Over and above getting your products for 50% SAVINGS in your Business Kit! Even if you're just looking for great skincare ~ this is by far THE BEST OFFER for Award-Winning skincare!

9. Give yourself the GIFT of Great Skin! Get started on these products NOW and you'll be looking RADIANT before the Ball Drops on New Years Eve AND ready to help your friends with their New Year’s resolutions to start caring for themselves with great skin or financial freedom in 2016!

10. Give yourself the GIFT of residual income! The gift that will seriously keep on giving! What would an extra $xxx, $x,xxx. or $xx,xxx. a month do for you and your family? That can be YOUR reality!

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[lostamonkey]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

You expect consistency on a place within the Internet?

Expect? No.  Just pointing out how crazy this place is sometimes.  :-)

It's not even inconsistent though, since as stated above the full-service NJ gas is cheaper than neighboring states self-serve.  If the total cost of operating a leaf blower was lower than that of a rake, people might feel differently (come to think of it, my leaf blower was free so it probably is cheaper to run it than to buy a rake)

The fact that gas is cheaper in Jersey is because it is produced in Jersey. If they allowed self serve, gas would be even cheaper. I dislike the government making laws to "protect jobs" which cost average citizens money.

[Pooperman]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

You expect consistency on a place within the Internet?

Expect? No.  Just pointing out how crazy this place is sometimes.  :-)

It's not even inconsistent though, since as stated above the full-service NJ gas is cheaper than neighboring states self-serve.  If the total cost of operating a leaf blower was lower than that of a rake, people might feel differently (come to think of it, my leaf blower was free so it probably is cheaper to run it than to buy a rake)

The fact that gas is cheaper in Jersey is because it is produced in Jersey. If they allowed self serve, gas would be even cheaper. I dislike the government making laws to "protect jobs" which cost average citizens money.

Gas is produced in NJ, the gas tax is the lowest in the country... but bribery and corruption are also a thing in NJ (the origin of the ban on self-service). Still, $1.79/gal isn't bad.

[merula]

And another one!  Gotta love the holidays!  Perfect time to make extra money off of your gullible friends!:

Top 10 Reasons to JOIN my Rodan + Fields Team TODAY instead of "after the holidays:" 🎄

1. Holiday parties are the PERFECT time to start sharing your business and setting goals! You will see a ton of people with skin who want to support you! Out of town friends and relatives, co-workers' spouses, and meeting new friends!

2. Receive a paycheck in January to help pay for all the Holiday spending! {The start of RESIDUAL INCOME!} 💸

3. Give Gifts from your business kit and R+F store to your friends, family, teachers, Secret Santa exchanges, etc... And at the same time build your client base! #WinWin

4. Tax write-offs for 2015!!! Don't let this pass you up! Saved me $$$

5. Gift giving season provides a great time to give mini-facials to everyone you know with skin! You'll have access to Award-Winning skincare that they can only purchase from an R+F Consultant: YOU!

6. Capitalize on Rodan + Fields' limited time offer to earn back the ENTIRE COST of your Biz Kit before it ends! I did it before this offer existed just with my paycheck and I will teach you HOW!

7. Leverage our Global Expansion ~ join now so you're ready for our expansion into Australia in 2016! We expanded into Canada earlier this year and we sell to Puerto Rico! In Australia with a US address?! Even better!!! Let's get you going!

8. Take advantage of a HUGE SIGN ON BONUS ending December - Over and above getting your products for 50% SAVINGS in your Business Kit! Even if you're just looking for great skincare ~ this is by far THE BEST OFFER for Award-Winning skincare!

9. Give yourself the GIFT of Great Skin! Get started on these products NOW and you'll be looking RADIANT before the Ball Drops on New Years Eve AND ready to help your friends with their New Year’s resolutions to start caring for themselves with great skin or financial freedom in 2016!

10. Give yourself the GIFT of residual income! The gift that will seriously keep on giving! What would an extra $xxx, $x,xxx. or $xx,xxx. a month do for you and your family? That can be YOUR reality!

Let's talk today! 🎁 Join my team!  #rodaningandfieldsing #anyonecandoit #holidayhustle

This probably just proves how pedantic I am, but my biggest issue with this whole thing is the repeated misuse of "residual income".

[LeRainDrop]

And another one!  Gotta love the holidays!  Perfect time to make extra money off of your gullible friends!:

Top 10 Reasons to JOIN my Rodan + Fields Team TODAY instead of "after the holidays:" 🎄

1. Holiday parties are the PERFECT time to start sharing your business and setting goals! You will see a ton of people with skin who want to support you! Out of town friends and relatives, co-workers' spouses, and meeting new friends!

2. Receive a paycheck in January to help pay for all the Holiday spending! {The start of RESIDUAL INCOME!} 💸

3. Give Gifts from your business kit and R+F store to your friends, family, teachers, Secret Santa exchanges, etc... And at the same time build your client base! #WinWin

4. Tax write-offs for 2015!!! Don't let this pass you up! Saved me $$$

5. Gift giving season provides a great time to give mini-facials to everyone you know with skin! You'll have access to Award-Winning skincare that they can only purchase from an R+F Consultant: YOU!

6. Capitalize on Rodan + Fields' limited time offer to earn back the ENTIRE COST of your Biz Kit before it ends! I did it before this offer existed just with my paycheck and I will teach you HOW!

7. Leverage our Global Expansion ~ join now so you're ready for our expansion into Australia in 2016! We expanded into Canada earlier this year and we sell to Puerto Rico! In Australia with a US address?! Even better!!! Let's get you going!

8. Take advantage of a HUGE SIGN ON BONUS ending December - Over and above getting your products for 50% SAVINGS in your Business Kit! Even if you're just looking for great skincare ~ this is by far THE BEST OFFER for Award-Winning skincare!

9. Give yourself the GIFT of Great Skin! Get started on these products NOW and you'll be looking RADIANT before the Ball Drops on New Years Eve AND ready to help your friends with their New Year’s resolutions to start caring for themselves with great skin or financial freedom in 2016!

10. Give yourself the GIFT of residual income! The gift that will seriously keep on giving! What would an extra $xxx, $x,xxx. or $xx,xxx. a month do for you and your family? That can be YOUR reality!

Let's talk today! 🎁 Join my team!  #rodaningandfieldsing #anyonecandoit #holidayhustle

This probably just proves how pedantic I am, but my biggest issue with this whole thing is the repeated misuse of "residual income".

OMG, I am laughing so hard.  As soon as I read this list here, I went to facebook to check out my neighbor's page.  She's also with R+ F, so I'm frequently selecting the facebook option to see fewer posts from her -- she posts for R + F every single day.  Anyhow, she's got essentially the same list posted but with some minor tweaks.  (Looks like that "residual income" part is the personal touch added CabinetGuys's friend, or else my neighbor was just smart enough to delete it.)

[Dollar Slice]

1. Holiday parties are the PERFECT time to start sharing your business and setting goals! You will see a ton of people with skin

"A ton of people with skin"? I feel like this is setting the bar pretty low for your holiday party.

[mm1970]

And another one!  Gotta love the holidays!  Perfect time to make extra money off of your gullible friends!:

Top 10 Reasons to JOIN my Rodan + Fields Team TODAY instead of "after the holidays:" 🎄

1. Holiday parties are the PERFECT time to start sharing your business and setting goals! You will see a ton of people with skin who want to support you! Out of town friends and relatives, co-workers' spouses, and meeting new friends!

2. Receive a paycheck in January to help pay for all the Holiday spending! {The start of RESIDUAL INCOME!} 💸

3. Give Gifts from your business kit and R+F store to your friends, family, teachers, Secret Santa exchanges, etc... And at the same time build your client base! #WinWin

4. Tax write-offs for 2015!!! Don't let this pass you up! Saved me $$$

5. Gift giving season provides a great time to give mini-facials to everyone you know with skin! You'll have access to Award-Winning skincare that they can only purchase from an R+F Consultant: YOU!

6. Capitalize on Rodan + Fields' limited time offer to earn back the ENTIRE COST of your Biz Kit before it ends! I did it before this offer existed just with my paycheck and I will teach you HOW!

7. Leverage our Global Expansion ~ join now so you're ready for our expansion into Australia in 2016! We expanded into Canada earlier this year and we sell to Puerto Rico! In Australia with a US address?! Even better!!! Let's get you going!

8. Take advantage of a HUGE SIGN ON BONUS ending December - Over and above getting your products for 50% SAVINGS in your Business Kit! Even if you're just looking for great skincare ~ this is by far THE BEST OFFER for Award-Winning skincare!

9. Give yourself the GIFT of Great Skin! Get started on these products NOW and you'll be looking RADIANT before the Ball Drops on New Years Eve AND ready to help your friends with their New Year’s resolutions to start caring for themselves with great skin or financial freedom in 2016!

10. Give yourself the GIFT of residual income! The gift that will seriously keep on giving! What would an extra $xxx, $x,xxx. or $xx,xxx. a month do for you and your family? That can be YOUR reality!

Let's talk today! 🎁 Join my team!  #rodaningandfieldsing #anyonecandoit #holidayhustle

This probably just proves how pedantic I am, but my biggest issue with this whole thing is the repeated misuse of "residual income".

Ha this is funny!  I  have two friends who sell R+F, but I don't think they are doing well.  They stopped posting about it. I think they really like the products.  I sometimes think I should care more about my skin - I live in a place where looking young is important, and many friends have done laser work on their faces.

But, you know, I'm 45 and fine with looking 45.  If only I didn't have wrinkles, gray hair AND pimples.  I mean seriously.

[ShoulderThingThatGoesUp]

And another one!  Gotta love the holidays!  Perfect time to make extra money off of your gullible friends!:

Top 10 Reasons to JOIN my Rodan + Fields Team TODAY instead of "after the holidays:" 🎄

1. Holiday parties are the PERFECT time to start sharing your business and setting goals! You will see a ton of people with skin who want to support you! Out of town friends and relatives, co-workers' spouses, and meeting new friends!

2. Receive a paycheck in January to help pay for all the Holiday spending! {The start of RESIDUAL INCOME!} 💸

3. Give Gifts from your business kit and R+F store to your friends, family, teachers, Secret Santa exchanges, etc... And at the same time build your client base! #WinWin

4. Tax write-offs for 2015!!! Don't let this pass you up! Saved me $$$

5. Gift giving season provides a great time to give mini-facials to everyone you know with skin! You'll have access to Award-Winning skincare that they can only purchase from an R+F Consultant: YOU!

6. Capitalize on Rodan + Fields' limited time offer to earn back the ENTIRE COST of your Biz Kit before it ends! I did it before this offer existed just with my paycheck and I will teach you HOW!

7. Leverage our Global Expansion ~ join now so you're ready for our expansion into Australia in 2016! We expanded into Canada earlier this year and we sell to Puerto Rico! In Australia with a US address?! Even better!!! Let's get you going!

8. Take advantage of a HUGE SIGN ON BONUS ending December - Over and above getting your products for 50% SAVINGS in your Business Kit! Even if you're just looking for great skincare ~ this is by far THE BEST OFFER for Award-Winning skincare!

9. Give yourself the GIFT of Great Skin! Get started on these products NOW and you'll be looking RADIANT before the Ball Drops on New Years Eve AND ready to help your friends with their New Year’s resolutions to start caring for themselves with great skin or financial freedom in 2016!

10. Give yourself the GIFT of residual income! The gift that will seriously keep on giving! What would an extra $xxx, $x,xxx. or $xx,xxx. a month do for you and your family? That can be YOUR reality!

Let's talk today! 🎁 Join my team!  #rodaningandfieldsing #anyonecandoit #holidayhustle

Boy, everyone I've ever met has skin! What an opportunity!

[dragoncar]

I have seen this forum attack people for suggesting that blind disabled 75 year olds might have a cause to use a leaf blower instead of a rake but here we are discussing the pro's to paying someone to pump gas into your car? 

You expect consistency on a place within the Internet?

Expect? No.  Just pointing out how crazy this place is sometimes.  :-)

It's not even inconsistent though, since as stated above the full-service NJ gas is cheaper than neighboring states self-serve.  If the total cost of operating a leaf blower was lower than that of a rake, people might feel differently (come to think of it, my leaf blower was free so it probably is cheaper to run it than to buy a rake)

The fact that gas is cheaper in Jersey is because it is produced in Jersey. If they allowed self serve, gas would be even cheaper. I dislike the government making laws to "protect jobs" which cost average citizens money.

Sure, but that's irrelevant to our analysis since none of us personally control NJ state law

[MishMash]

Said dependa Facebook friend from earlier in this string posted a novella this morning.  The jist of which is she cheated on her Tech Sgt husband, is pissed the husband is divorcing her and going for primary custody of the kids due to her unemployment and "anxiety", and just started a go fund me to pay for hospital bills in case the divorce goes through before she can get her heart surgery completed through Tricare (can I just insert how fucking stupid she is and how she totally doesn't realize she's looking at a six figure bill).  On the positive note, shes sooooo happy to be living with her "true love" now.

Now, she'd been having overly mopey posts the past couple of months, and has been asking for money in "OMG guys I need 200 bucks by Friday if anyone has it" so I thought something was up, but holy fucking SHIT.  Talk about things you SHOULDN'T be posting on the internet.  She also in previous posts thinks if Trump becomes president her unemployed ass will just be given a good job, you know, since she has no degree, and near no experience she TOTALLY deserves it because she's a nice person. 

This latest novella  might have earned the de friend button...I didn't think that level of crazy could exist in one person.

As of today she is now "rehoming" her two schnauzers because her new boyfriends place doesn't allow dogs and her "evil" ex keeps them crated while he is at work since they "like to play when no one is around"  The kicker comes from the statement of "There IS a rehoming fee and it is NOT cheap, I paid 1700 for the female 8 months ago alone".  This coming from the one that has been routinely begging money for over a year.

OK, so dilemma time on this one folks.  This woman yesterday has stated that she hasn't eaten in a couple of days, has been posting how she's craving hot dogs, but doesn't have any to eat or money to buy any, and she just had her heart ablation last week which means she's in recovery and not working, and was recently diagnosed with depression...her kids are also not living with her at the moment but will be visiting this week.  She's asking for food donations.  I could order up some groceries from the local shoprite and have her pick them up (I don't want to do a gift card as she'd probably blow it on convenience food from what I've seen). 

My husband says we shouldn't do it because a lot of her current situation is caused by no one other then herself.  Me, I'm seeing someone that is sick (both mentally and physically) and needs food she asked for some other things like contact lens solution, toys for her kids, and gas money that I'm not willing to hand over.  But the other part of me is saying she did this to herself.  She's never had a full time job, she walked out on the husband after forcing him into buying a house 4 months earlier, she's blown money on tattoos, makeup, clothes etc and has consistently bitched about being broke for years, despite her husband bringing in a pretty dang decent salary.

I feel like it's something that would be the right thing to do, someone is sick and in need, but I am afraid of setting a bad precedence.  I also don't know why her family, who lives 20 minutes away from her, while I live 4 states away, isn't helping her out, which makes me leery.

What would you all do?

Sooooo this just all imploded on her, and I feel terrible and I do think I should try to do something to help but I'm not sure what an appropriate response would be (especially since I live 4 states away and haven't seen this chick in upteen years).  This morning she serial posted a crap ton, the jist of which was the boyfriend she left DH for dumped her in an epic fasion, she's 3 months behind on car payments, and late on her $900 rent compiled with a "I haven't felt loved in years, he didn't even tell me why, I've said it before I'll say it again, I've hit rock bottom and it is total hell, can anyone lend me money"

 After the prior food post, I had contacted her to let her know that my mom had a ton of free veggies from her garden if she wanted some (seriously my mother is offloading the stuff by the bushel). I figured it was a good compromise, she would have healthy nutritious fruit and veggies as a starting point. She turned me down even though she only lives 10 minutes from my mothers house.  I also found out the guy she was dating was a veteran, and it's possible there is some PTSD in there.  He's been unemployed for like a year.  Now, he should be getting VA disability I thought, or been able to use the GI bill to go to school and collect the BAH in the meantime, all I got was that those weren't options, which leads me to believe he may have been discharged with a Dishonorable.  I let her know about Food banks in the area after this, and told her what resources the military had available for use until the divorce is finalized, she didn't show much interest in any of it.

The part that pisses me off in all of this is the comments to the "he left me" posting.  It was a bunch of hens all saying that she deserved a "man that could provide for her" "a man that can pay her bills, and feed her and the zillion pets" "a man that will love her kids" etc etc, and her agreeing with all of that (which as someone who is fiercely independent and work oriented makes me die a little inside but I can get that living off of someone else is some women's goal, my cousin being at the top of my list).  That's EXACTLY what she had with DH, and apparently that didn't make her happy either?

I'll be up there this weekend to visit my mom, so part of me is wondering if I should do anything.  This is all a catastrophe of her own making but my fear is that she will go suicidal, and as much as I may dislike her personal choices I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.  She still hasn't said why it's not an option to go back to her parents house, and they are on FB, so they can see her posts, and none of her family have done/said anything to support her which makes me leary.  And again, I've offered help in a minimal fashion, and she's turned it down since I don't think it was the "help" she's looking for so at this stage would you folks attempt to help, or just wash your hands of it all?

So I thought I would update ya'll on the latest, and probably most disgusting event (s) that have occurred with this situation over the past week.  I've hit my max with her and at least unfollowed...I can't take it anymore.

So, a little background, she's back with the BF (though he doesn't seem to be treating her well), her car is now broken, needs 1k in repairs, and is about to be repossessed.  Last week she had all sorts of memes posted about being broke and it being the holidays and one about how it's Christmas and it's time for all the parents to gloat with pictures of presents under the tree, and to remember that all kids aren't that lucky (PS...that was her every.single.year. before this one...I mean MOUNTAINS of toys that you could barely see the tree).

To start the jackassery off on Saturday she posted how happy she was that one of her coworkers was able to get her kids on the Toys for Tots list since she had tried and they said they were full.  Said coworker volunteers there and got her on the list.  Fine, whatever, her kids get some toys, no problem there. 

Until yesterday when queen dependa sets up a go fund me, begging for money, saying she is having trouble getting to work since her car is dead, and how she's getting divorced and her evil ex will only bring the kids to her one day a week (dude is Active Duty military, he CAN'T drop them off and pick them up more than that she lives 45 minutes away now) but then goes on to say that more than anything she wants to give her kids a "good" Christmas, and that she's in this position even though she's "never been in a financially bad place before" which is a GIANT lie... so please send her money (READ: car is broken but I want money for MORE toys, even though Toys for Tots, the kids dad, and his whole family is also delivering Christmas).

The straw that broke the camels back for me was today, when she put out a call to "everyone who has been asking what the kids would like for Christmas" here's a list on Amazon.  Out of curiosity I click the link...it's SEVEN PAGES LONG!!!.  Not only that, the first TWO pages were for shit for her and her BOYFRIEND.  And I'm not talking cheap shit either.  She had on a 300 dollar Kitchenaid mixer, not one but TWO North Face jackets for her (200 a piece), another North Face fleece for her boy toy (120), new boots for boy toy to the tune of 150, a kitchen island for 150, a sound machine....70 DOLLAR HAIR KERATIN conditioner (listed as high priority), a waterpick toothbrush, all sorts of expensive yoga wear (and she shouldn't be wearing anything tight if you know what I mean), designer knee high socks for 20 bucks a pair, Ugg shorties, high end 15 buck a pop razors (not disposables of course) and it went on and on.  Then you get to the kids stuff and it's just as bad.  Multiple 100 dollar lego toys, 50 dollar animal family sets, name brand clothes and shoes etc.  I total led up the 7 pages and it was over 4k of CRAP.

So to sum it up, she's broke as shit, behind on rent, broken car that might get repo'd so she's behind on payments there and instead of begging for charity to get her BILLS paid, and the car fixed so she can go to work, she wants 4k of designer shit for her, her boyfriend and her already overly spoiled children....Faith in humanity lost right there...I'm DONE.

[Vertical Mode]

Said dependa Facebook friend from earlier in this string posted a novella this morning.  The jist of which is she cheated on her Tech Sgt husband, is pissed the husband is divorcing her and going for primary custody of the kids due to her unemployment and "anxiety", and just started a go fund me to pay for hospital bills in case the divorce goes through before she can get her heart surgery completed through Tricare (can I just insert how fucking stupid she is and how she totally doesn't realize she's looking at a six figure bill).  On the positive note, shes sooooo happy to be living with her "true love" now.

Now, she'd been having overly mopey posts the past couple of months, and has been asking for money in "OMG guys I need 200 bucks by Friday if anyone has it" so I thought something was up, but holy fucking SHIT.  Talk about things you SHOULDN'T be posting on the internet.  She also in previous posts thinks if Trump becomes president her unemployed ass will just be given a good job, you know, since she has no degree, and near no experience she TOTALLY deserves it because she's a nice person. 

This latest novella  might have earned the de friend button...I didn't think that level of crazy could exist in one person.

As of today she is now "rehoming" her two schnauzers because her new boyfriends place doesn't allow dogs and her "evil" ex keeps them crated while he is at work since they "like to play when no one is around"  The kicker comes from the statement of "There IS a rehoming fee and it is NOT cheap, I paid 1700 for the female 8 months ago alone".  This coming from the one that has been routinely begging money for over a year.

OK, so dilemma time on this one folks.  This woman yesterday has stated that she hasn't eaten in a couple of days, has been posting how she's craving hot dogs, but doesn't have any to eat or money to buy any, and she just had her heart ablation last week which means she's in recovery and not working, and was recently diagnosed with depression...her kids are also not living with her at the moment but will be visiting this week.  She's asking for food donations.  I could order up some groceries from the local shoprite and have her pick them up (I don't want to do a gift card as she'd probably blow it on convenience food from what I've seen). 

My husband says we shouldn't do it because a lot of her current situation is caused by no one other then herself.  Me, I'm seeing someone that is sick (both mentally and physically) and needs food she asked for some other things like contact lens solution, toys for her kids, and gas money that I'm not willing to hand over.  But the other part of me is saying she did this to herself.  She's never had a full time job, she walked out on the husband after forcing him into buying a house 4 months earlier, she's blown money on tattoos, makeup, clothes etc and has consistently bitched about being broke for years, despite her husband bringing in a pretty dang decent salary.

I feel like it's something that would be the right thing to do, someone is sick and in need, but I am afraid of setting a bad precedence.  I also don't know why her family, who lives 20 minutes away from her, while I live 4 states away, isn't helping her out, which makes me leery.

What would you all do?

Sooooo this just all imploded on her, and I feel terrible and I do think I should try to do something to help but I'm not sure what an appropriate response would be (especially since I live 4 states away and haven't seen this chick in upteen years).  This morning she serial posted a crap ton, the jist of which was the boyfriend she left DH for dumped her in an epic fasion, she's 3 months behind on car payments, and late on her $900 rent compiled with a "I haven't felt loved in years, he didn't even tell me why, I've said it before I'll say it again, I've hit rock bottom and it is total hell, can anyone lend me money"

 After the prior food post, I had contacted her to let her know that my mom had a ton of free veggies from her garden if she wanted some (seriously my mother is offloading the stuff by the bushel). I figured it was a good compromise, she would have healthy nutritious fruit and veggies as a starting point. She turned me down even though she only lives 10 minutes from my mothers house.  I also found out the guy she was dating was a veteran, and it's possible there is some PTSD in there.  He's been unemployed for like a year.  Now, he should be getting VA disability I thought, or been able to use the GI bill to go to school and collect the BAH in the meantime, all I got was that those weren't options, which leads me to believe he may have been discharged with a Dishonorable.  I let her know about Food banks in the area after this, and told her what resources the military had available for use until the divorce is finalized, she didn't show much interest in any of it.

The part that pisses me off in all of this is the comments to the "he left me" posting.  It was a bunch of hens all saying that she deserved a "man that could provide for her" "a man that can pay her bills, and feed her and the zillion pets" "a man that will love her kids" etc etc, and her agreeing with all of that (which as someone who is fiercely independent and work oriented makes me die a little inside but I can get that living off of someone else is some women's goal, my cousin being at the top of my list).  That's EXACTLY what she had with DH, and apparently that didn't make her happy either?

I'll be up there this weekend to visit my mom, so part of me is wondering if I should do anything.  This is all a catastrophe of her own making but my fear is that she will go suicidal, and as much as I may dislike her personal choices I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.  She still hasn't said why it's not an option to go back to her parents house, and they are on FB, so they can see her posts, and none of her family have done/said anything to support her which makes me leary.  And again, I've offered help in a minimal fashion, and she's turned it down since I don't think it was the "help" she's looking for so at this stage would you folks attempt to help, or just wash your hands of it all?

So I thought I would update ya'll on the latest, and probably most disgusting event (s) that have occurred with this situation over the past week.  I've hit my max with her and at least unfollowed...I can't take it anymore.

So, a little background, she's back with the BF (though he doesn't seem to be treating her well), her car is now broken, needs 1k in repairs, and is about to be repossessed.  Last week she had all sorts of memes posted about being broke and it being the holidays and one about how it's Christmas and it's time for all the parents to gloat with pictures of presents under the tree, and to remember that all kids aren't that lucky (PS...that was her every.single.year. before this one...I mean MOUNTAINS of toys that you could barely see the tree).

To start the jackassery off on Saturday she posted how happy she was that one of her coworkers was able to get her kids on the Toys for Tots list since she had tried and they said they were full.  Said coworker volunteers there and got her on the list.  Fine, whatever, her kids get some toys, no problem there. 

Until yesterday when queen dependa sets up a go fund me, begging for money, saying she is having trouble getting to work since her car is dead, and how she's getting divorced and her evil ex will only bring the kids to her one day a week (dude is Active Duty military, he CAN'T drop them off and pick them up more than that she lives 45 minutes away now) but then goes on to say that more than anything she wants to give her kids a "good" Christmas, and that she's in this position even though she's "never been in a financially bad place before" which is a GIANT lie... so please send her money (READ: car is broken but I want money for MORE toys, even though Toys for Tots, the kids dad, and his whole family is also delivering Christmas).

The straw that broke the camels back for me was today, when she put out a call to "everyone who has been asking what the kids would like for Christmas" here's a list on Amazon.  Out of curiosity I click the link...it's SEVEN PAGES LONG!!!.  Not only that, the first TWO pages were for shit for her and her BOYFRIEND.  And I'm not talking cheap shit either.  She had on a 300 dollar Kitchenaid mixer, not one but TWO North Face jackets for her (200 a piece), another North Face fleece for her boy toy (120), new boots for boy toy to the tune of 150, a kitchen island for 150, a sound machine....70 DOLLAR HAIR KERATIN conditioner (listed as high priority), a waterpick toothbrush, all sorts of expensive yoga wear (and she shouldn't be wearing anything tight if you know what I mean), designer knee high socks for 20 bucks a pair, Ugg shorties, high end 15 buck a pop razors (not disposables of course) and it went on and on.  Then you get to the kids stuff and it's just as bad.  Multiple 100 dollar lego toys, 50 dollar animal family sets, name brand clothes and shoes etc.  I total led up the 7 pages and it was over 4k of CRAP.

So to sum it up, she's broke as shit, behind on rent, broken car that might get repo'd so she's behind on payments there and instead of begging for charity to get her BILLS paid, and the car fixed so she can go to work, she wants 4k of designer shit for her, her boyfriend and her already overly spoiled children....Faith in humanity lost right there...I'm DONE.

I think you've just won the thread. Wow.

[MishMash]

aaaaand I was just showing this to my husband to show him he was right that we shouldn't have helped her in the beginning and noticed she added an 8th page...full of toys...for her cats...I shit you not.  How the FUCK do people like this exist?

[crispy]

A couple we know went through bankruptcy and foreclosure about three years ago. I was hoping it would be a wake-up call for them to get their finances back in order, but it hasn't been.  The fancy vacations and eating out constantly is still going on.  They have also started hanging out with a group that makes serious money and spends it accordingly so I think they are feeling some pressure to keep up.

Anyway, today they posted a picture on Facebook of the house they put a contract on which is twice the size and price of the one they lost just three years ago.  My mind is officially boggled.

im super confused. that amount of student loans, means super high payments, so im surprised they even got approved for the loan. but what ever HTF do you get a mortgage with 200k in defaulted student loans. how do you get anything with student loans in default. i might as well let mine go into default if i  can still get a house and everything else.

something here doesnt add up.

will a bank  approve you with both a bankruptcy and a foreclosure only three years ago?
 don't you also lose out on a lot of first home buyer things that make it easier to secure a loan?

im assuming that to prove they arent useless,  banks are going to demand at least 20% down this time( or maybe that's called hoping).

 also on a more cynical note, I assume that getting a "fresh start",  three years ago, gives  enough  time to make on time payments and keep cc balances low enough that you look good on paper

maybe the bank just assumes they will get some interest payments and house in a few years?

I have no idea.  I just know they said they put an offer on it.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

This is the same couple whom I have posted about that owe 200K+ in student loans that have been in default for years.  They did a spousal consolidation years ago when that was still allowed.  All their stuff is in his name because her credit is completely shot from the defaulted loans.  We used to be good friends, but I had to back away once I realized all of this. It's fascinating and sickening at the same time.

I asked her this when she told me they were going to start house hunting a few months ago which is when I learned that all the student loans were in her name only.  That's when I started backing away from the friendship.  My understanding is that they are planning to finance the house in his name with his credit (which also has the bankruptcy and foreclosure on it so I don't know how that works).  All the student loans are in her name only and she won't appear on the loan and mortgage so the lender is unaware of that they have 200K in student loans in default.  She doesn't work (because she doesn't want to ay the loans back and knows her wages would be garnished) so I guess there is no reason for her to be on the mortgage since she isn't contributing income.

I haven't talked to her much in the last few months, but the house posting caught me eye today.  I seriously don't get it.

Quoting this to give an update.  They ended up closing on the home earlier this year.  I got a call from her yesterday (we haven't spoken in months) because she wanted to "catch-up."  About 5 minutes into the conversation she mentioned that her husband lost his job and they weren't sure what they are going to do.  I said I was sorry and quickly got off the phone.   I do feel bad for him because they are going to be in a world of hurt if he doesn't find a job quickly, but I just can't deal with the drama because most of it stems from their own choices.