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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8250 on: January 12, 2021, 07:24:36 PM »
To save money, I started making my own nut bars (like the imported KIND bars that go for $3/bar here in China). My recipe makes about 15 bars and should theoretically last us the week. My MPP is that they are so tasty that all members of the family eat multiple bars a day, and it’s only Tuesday and we are almost out of nut bars.

We occasionally make home made bars like this and have the same issue, easily eat 3, 4, 5 bars in a day before the guilt sets in. ^^^ just need to triple the recipe and you will be set. I hypothesize that after a week or two of having as many bars as you want, the consumption will level off then fade to something more respectable. Only way to find out is to make all the bars (for science!).
That approach worked for me with a weekly delivery box from the bakery. We were more than happy to see the end of it by the end of the 5 week subscription!

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8251 on: January 15, 2021, 06:59:39 PM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.

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« Reply #8252 on: January 16, 2021, 04:22:48 AM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.
That's going overboard though. A new wallet costs just 10 dollar, which is a minuscle amount for 20-30 years and you don't run the risk of losing some paper that would take you days of hassle to replace. Not to mention more money than 10 dollar.

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« Reply #8253 on: January 16, 2021, 08:21:34 AM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.
That's going overboard though. A new wallet costs just 10 dollar, which is a minuscle amount for 20-30 years and you don't run the risk of losing some paper that would take you days of hassle to replace. Not to mention more money than 10 dollar.

Still, it's a good feeling to be able to be able to feel smug when spendypants friends and family make fun of your frugal ways. Those snarks invite all sorts of comebacks that Lazycow is probably too polite to say aloud (Oh you poor, POOR consumerists! *Pat on cheek* I hope that your pretty wallets dazzle you enough to distract you from the lifetime of toil that you have ahead of you. I hardly even think of mine as I flit about my days of retirement freedom!)
IMO, there's frugal and there's cheap. One could also purchase a decent looking wallet at a thrift store or garage sale. Instead, OP is flaunting his cheapness, which is fine for him. It could also be a way of drawing attention to himself.

In my pre-FIRE years, I preferred the challenge of stealth frugality, which is the subtle art of being wise with resources without appearing or acting like a cheap-ass.

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« Reply #8254 on: January 16, 2021, 08:29:17 AM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.
That's going overboard though. A new wallet costs just 10 dollar, which is a minuscle amount for 20-30 years and you don't run the risk of losing some paper that would take you days of hassle to replace. Not to mention more money than 10 dollar.

Still, it's a good feeling to be able to be able to feel smug when spendypants friends and family make fun of your frugal ways. Those snarks invite all sorts of comebacks that Lazycow is probably too polite to say aloud (Oh you poor, POOR consumerists! *Pat on cheek* I hope that your pretty wallets dazzle you enough to distract you from the lifetime of toil that you have ahead of you. I hardly even think of mine as I flit about my days of retirement freedom!)
IMO, there's frugal and there's cheap. One could also purchase a decent looking wallet at a thrift store or garage sale. Instead, OP is flaunting his cheapness, which is fine for him. It could also be a way of drawing attention to himself.

In my pre-FIRE years, I preferred the challenge of stealth frugality, which is the subtle art of being wise with resources without appearing or acting like a cheap-ass.

Me too. Plenty of beautiful wallets and handbags available for 10% of retail on the classified board at my work. I get compliments on my Frye boots every time I wear them, and I paid $30 for them.

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« Reply #8255 on: January 16, 2021, 08:29:49 AM »
Conspicuous non consumerism...

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« Reply #8256 on: January 16, 2021, 08:39:14 AM »
Conspicuous non consumerism...

Hmm... my car is getting some rust and looks pretty bad, but I park on the street and don't want to worry about something nicer getting damaged or stolen.  It's a stick shift and pretty powerful for it's size so it's fun to drive, and the heat and AC work great. It is 17 years old and has less than 100k miles because I don't drive that much. Insurance and tabs are dirt cheap too.

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« Reply #8257 on: January 16, 2021, 11:23:20 AM »
Due to the unfortunate timing of a series of rather mundane events, we have consistently spent more than usual on our "overflow" cc - the 2% card that we use whenever there isn't a better option. Bill pay still insists on telling me that "this payment is significantly more than usual" when I enter the numbers in. Uh, it is actually less than the last two months, but thanks for keeping me honest?

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« Reply #8258 on: January 16, 2021, 03:49:57 PM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store. This is especially prevalent when I'm looking for things I have no intention of using for their intended purpose... I'm not sure if this is a MPP or an "engineer problem". Today I spent an hour considering different options for converting an old lawn mower into a ice shaver for resurfacing a lake. In the end I bought a $10 piece of flat steel convinced I could weld up a better solution that I could buy for a reasonable price...

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« Reply #8259 on: January 17, 2021, 05:10:46 AM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store. This is especially prevalent when I'm looking for things I have no intention of using for their intended purpose... I'm not sure if this is a MPP or an "engineer problem". Today I spent an hour considering different options for converting an old lawn mower into a ice shaver for resurfacing a lake. In the end I bought a $10 piece of flat steel convinced I could weld up a better solution that I could buy for a reasonable price...

Making a homemade Zamboni!?!   Wow, that's an mmm - master mustachian move!  I would do the same but I fear I wouldn't get much use out of it here in South Carolina.

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« Reply #8260 on: January 17, 2021, 07:38:47 AM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.
That's going overboard though. A new wallet costs just 10 dollar, which is a minuscle amount for 20-30 years and you don't run the risk of losing some paper that would take you days of hassle to replace. Not to mention more money than 10 dollar.

Still, it's a good feeling to be able to be able to feel smug when spendypants friends and family make fun of your frugal ways. Those snarks invite all sorts of comebacks that Lazycow is probably too polite to say aloud (Oh you poor, POOR consumerists! *Pat on cheek* I hope that your pretty wallets dazzle you enough to distract you from the lifetime of toil that you have ahead of you. I hardly even think of mine as I flit about my days of retirement freedom!)
IMO, there's frugal and there's cheap. One could also purchase a decent looking wallet at a thrift store or garage sale. Instead, OP is flaunting his cheapness, which is fine for him. It could also be a way of drawing attention to himself.

In my pre-FIRE years, I preferred the challenge of stealth frugality, which is the subtle art of being wise with resources without appearing or acting like a cheap-ass.

Or maybe they just don't care about their wallet or about what other people might think? Or they think a new wallet isn't worth the impact on the environment?
 
I have a kind of childish wallet for cash that I prefer other people not to see if avoidable but still I couldn't be bothered to replace it so far, reason being that except that minor inconvenience of what other people might think, personally I just don't care as long as it works. I don't think it's cheap, it's a mixture of thinking about the environment, indifference about wallets and not caring too much about other people's opinions.


Also Lazycow didn't seem to flaunt it as they said "She snatched it off me".
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« Reply #8261 on: January 18, 2021, 10:09:41 PM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store.

This is something I battle with. I finally had to convince myself that spending an hour searching through 7 different online stores in order to save $10 was a poor use of my limited time. However, I do spend a fair amount of time reading reviews for reliability. I don't regret that, as broken tools and returns take way more time, plus I enjoy seeing how well things are made (or not). AvE is quite entertaining.

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« Reply #8262 on: January 18, 2021, 11:22:00 PM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store. This is especially prevalent when I'm looking for things I have no intention of using for their intended purpose... I'm not sure if this is a MPP or an "engineer problem". Today I spent an hour considering different options for converting an old lawn mower into a ice shaver for resurfacing a lake. In the end I bought a $10 piece of flat steel convinced I could weld up a better solution that I could buy for a reasonable price...
I initially thought it was overkill to convert a lawn mower into an ice shaver. Then I realised it wasn't the kitchen-type ice shaver :)
We don't resurface lakes in Australia as far as I know. We did have a friend who converted a lawnmower into a jack hammer in an afternoon after someone complained that his driveway had a bump in it.

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« Reply #8263 on: January 18, 2021, 11:52:49 PM »
Due to my wife and I's frugality, people often wonder why we do not spend money on ubers, going out to dinner, and how are savings rates are so high.

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« Reply #8264 on: January 19, 2021, 12:31:38 AM »
Due to my wife and I's frugality, people often wonder why we do not spend money on ubers, going out to dinner, and how are savings rates are so high.

People wonder all three things at the same time?  Because that would be just... silly.

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« Reply #8265 on: January 19, 2021, 01:03:57 AM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store. This is especially prevalent when I'm looking for things I have no intention of using for their intended purpose... I'm not sure if this is a MPP or an "engineer problem". Today I spent an hour considering different options for converting an old lawn mower into a ice shaver for resurfacing a lake. In the end I bought a $10 piece of flat steel convinced I could weld up a better solution that I could buy for a reasonable price...
I initially thought it was overkill to convert a lawn mower into an ice shaver. Then I realised it wasn't the kitchen-type ice shaver :)
We don't resurface lakes in Australia as far as I know. We did have a friend who converted a lawnmower into a jack hammer in an afternoon after someone complained that his driveway had a bump in it.

I would love to see how they did that. Phase one (welding) is complete, but I got distracted be replacing the suspension on our 08 Honda Fit tonight and didn’t make any more progress on the mower. Which now that I think about it is probably another mpp. First three were easy but the front drivers side turned into pain when the cv joint popped out of place. I’ll get back to i tomorrow afternoon and the mower after that.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8266 on: January 19, 2021, 02:44:13 AM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.
That's going overboard though. A new wallet costs just 10 dollar, which is a minuscle amount for 20-30 years and you don't run the risk of losing some paper that would take you days of hassle to replace. Not to mention more money than 10 dollar.

Still, it's a good feeling to be able to be able to feel smug when spendypants friends and family make fun of your frugal ways. Those snarks invite all sorts of comebacks that Lazycow is probably too polite to say aloud (Oh you poor, POOR consumerists! *Pat on cheek* I hope that your pretty wallets dazzle you enough to distract you from the lifetime of toil that you have ahead of you. I hardly even think of mine as I flit about my days of retirement freedom!)
IMO, there's frugal and there's cheap. One could also purchase a decent looking wallet at a thrift store or garage sale. Instead, OP is flaunting his cheapness, which is fine for him. It could also be a way of drawing attention to himself.

In my pre-FIRE years, I preferred the challenge of stealth frugality, which is the subtle art of being wise with resources without appearing or acting like a cheap-ass.

Or maybe they just don't care about their wallet or about what other people might think? Or they think a new wallet isn't worth the impact on the environment?
 
I have a kind of childish wallet for cash that I prefer other people not to see if avoidable but still I couldn't be bothered to replace it so far, reason being that except that minor inconvenience of what other people might think, personally I just don't care as long as it works. I don't think it's cheap, it's a mixture of thinking about the environment, indifference about wallets and not caring too much about other people's opinions.


Also Lazycow didn't seem to flaunt it as they said "She snatched it off me".

OP (female) here: this thread made me laugh. We all must have so much time on our hands to be debating the ins and outs of my silly post!

I cheerfully admit that in this instance I am being cheap. I wouldn't make anyone *else* do this, but I simply couldn't care less about the appearance of a credit card-sized wallet. It lives inside my good leather wallet so no one sees it anyway. Amongst friends I am considered the weirdo, more for sustainable/saving-the-planet behaviour (which is the main reason I am frugal). I am very careful not to flaunt my family's debt-free, mortgage-free life!!

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8267 on: January 19, 2021, 09:59:14 AM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store. This is especially prevalent when I'm looking for things I have no intention of using for their intended purpose... I'm not sure if this is a MPP or an "engineer problem". Today I spent an hour considering different options for converting an old lawn mower into a ice shaver for resurfacing a lake. In the end I bought a $10 piece of flat steel convinced I could weld up a better solution that I could buy for a reasonable price...
I initially thought it was overkill to convert a lawn mower into an ice shaver. Then I realised it wasn't the kitchen-type ice shaver :)
We don't resurface lakes in Australia as far as I know. We did have a friend who converted a lawnmower into a jack hammer in an afternoon after someone complained that his driveway had a bump in it.

Same!  I thought he was making an industrial-sized sno-cone maker!

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« Reply #8268 on: January 19, 2021, 11:56:29 AM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store. This is especially prevalent when I'm looking for things I have no intention of using for their intended purpose... I'm not sure if this is a MPP or an "engineer problem". Today I spent an hour considering different options for converting an old lawn mower into a ice shaver for resurfacing a lake. In the end I bought a $10 piece of flat steel convinced I could weld up a better solution that I could buy for a reasonable price...
I initially thought it was overkill to convert a lawn mower into an ice shaver. Then I realised it wasn't the kitchen-type ice shaver :)
We don't resurface lakes in Australia as far as I know. We did have a friend who converted a lawnmower into a jack hammer in an afternoon after someone complained that his driveway had a bump in it.

Same!  I thought he was making an industrial-sized sno-cone maker!

What is the resurfacing for?  This boggles an Alabamian's mind as much as being told that my FIL used to park his car on Lake Erie in the winter. 

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« Reply #8269 on: January 19, 2021, 12:03:27 PM »
What is the resurfacing for?  This boggles an Alabamian's mind as much as being told that my FIL used to park his car on Lake Erie in the winter.

So you can play ice hockey on it of course. :)

Nuts, aren't they?

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« Reply #8270 on: January 19, 2021, 12:05:29 PM »
What is the resurfacing for?  This boggles an Alabamian's mind as much as being told that my FIL used to park his car on Lake Erie in the winter.

So you can play ice hockey on it of course. :)

Nuts, aren't they?

MMM: broom ball doesn't require resurfacing or any special equipment.

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« Reply #8271 on: January 19, 2021, 12:17:54 PM »
What is the resurfacing for?  This boggles an Alabamian's mind as much as being told that my FIL used to park his car on Lake Erie in the winter.

So you can play ice hockey on it of course. :)

Nuts, aren't they?

I figured, but I didn't know if it was for a parking lot or an ice hotel or whatever other things people do on ice up there.  I don't really have much frame of reference for what all one does on a frozen lake. 

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« Reply #8272 on: January 19, 2021, 12:30:23 PM »
What is the resurfacing for?  This boggles an Alabamian's mind as much as being told that my FIL used to park his car on Lake Erie in the winter.

So you can play ice hockey on it of course. :)

Nuts, aren't they?

I figured, but I didn't know if it was for a parking lot or an ice hotel or whatever other things people do on ice up there.  I don't really have much frame of reference for what all one does on a frozen lake.

The real irony is I don't even really skate. This whole project is just because a friend presented me with an interesting problem to solve... They've already built a homemade Zamboni. It does great at filling in holes and cracks, but it does work well if there are bumps on top the ice rink, so they were scraping those off by hand which took hours. The rink is on a frozen lake, so sometimes if it snows and then rains on top you get really rough nasty ice. In theory this will smooth it down enough to finish with their Zamboni.

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« Reply #8273 on: January 19, 2021, 12:31:54 PM »
I have a habit of spending way too much time trying to optimize my purchases at the hardware store. This is especially prevalent when I'm looking for things I have no intention of using for their intended purpose... I'm not sure if this is a MPP or an "engineer problem". Today I spent an hour considering different options for converting an old lawn mower into a ice shaver for resurfacing a lake. In the end I bought a $10 piece of flat steel convinced I could weld up a better solution that I could buy for a reasonable price...
I initially thought it was overkill to convert a lawn mower into an ice shaver. Then I realised it wasn't the kitchen-type ice shaver :)
We don't resurface lakes in Australia as far as I know. We did have a friend who converted a lawnmower into a jack hammer in an afternoon after someone complained that his driveway had a bump in it.

Same!  I thought he was making an industrial-sized sno-cone maker!

Intriguing... I could think of some uses for such a thing.

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« Reply #8274 on: January 19, 2021, 03:58:52 PM »
My MPP:  I am supposed to get reimbursed by work for my cell phone, but with the pandemic and a planned switch to an automated reimbursement process, I didn’t get the reimbursement for the last 5 months, and I didn’t notice. So now they’re going to give me the whole 6 months worth all at once. DW asked what exciting thing we might splurge on, and we couldn’t think of anything.

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« Reply #8275 on: January 20, 2021, 08:47:05 AM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.
That's going overboard though. A new wallet costs just 10 dollar, which is a minuscle amount for 20-30 years and you don't run the risk of losing some paper that would take you days of hassle to replace. Not to mention more money than 10 dollar.

Still, it's a good feeling to be able to be able to feel smug when spendypants friends and family make fun of your frugal ways. Those snarks invite all sorts of comebacks that Lazycow is probably too polite to say aloud (Oh you poor, POOR consumerists! *Pat on cheek* I hope that your pretty wallets dazzle you enough to distract you from the lifetime of toil that you have ahead of you. I hardly even think of mine as I flit about my days of retirement freedom!)
IMO, there's frugal and there's cheap. One could also purchase a decent looking wallet at a thrift store or garage sale. Instead, OP is flaunting his cheapness, which is fine for him. It could also be a way of drawing attention to himself.

In my pre-FIRE years, I preferred the challenge of stealth frugality, which is the subtle art of being wise with resources without appearing or acting like a cheap-ass.

Many people on this forum have lost their way.

The purpose of a wallet is to hold money and cards.  If the wallet lazycow is using fulfills that purpose, then it is as functional as a 'beautiful'/newer wallet.  Mending things is far better for the environment than buying new (including new cheap) stuff . . . holding on to things for a long period of time and learning to be satisfied with what you have is a vital part of frugal mentality and makes you a better person.

Disclaimer - I am a person who has a 30 year old wallet I'm not only perfectly happy with, but have grown emotionally attached to as we've been through so much of life together.  :P

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« Reply #8276 on: January 20, 2021, 08:52:39 AM »
My policy is only to use brand new wallets that people gift me, because they can't stand the sight of my previous, beat up wallet.

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« Reply #8277 on: January 20, 2021, 10:15:55 AM »
The little 30 year-old plastic wallet holding my credit card, licence, etc has almost fallen apart so I had to use a lot of duct tape to mend it. Should last another 30 years, much to my very fashionable sister's horror. She snatched it off me the last time we were out with friends and showed them all so they could have a good laugh. I didn't care, as I am the only one out of the group who has a paid-off house and doesn't need to work.
That's going overboard though. A new wallet costs just 10 dollar, which is a minuscle amount for 20-30 years and you don't run the risk of losing some paper that would take you days of hassle to replace. Not to mention more money than 10 dollar.

Still, it's a good feeling to be able to be able to feel smug when spendypants friends and family make fun of your frugal ways. Those snarks invite all sorts of comebacks that Lazycow is probably too polite to say aloud (Oh you poor, POOR consumerists! *Pat on cheek* I hope that your pretty wallets dazzle you enough to distract you from the lifetime of toil that you have ahead of you. I hardly even think of mine as I flit about my days of retirement freedom!)
IMO, there's frugal and there's cheap. One could also purchase a decent looking wallet at a thrift store or garage sale. Instead, OP is flaunting his cheapness, which is fine for him. It could also be a way of drawing attention to himself.

In my pre-FIRE years, I preferred the challenge of stealth frugality, which is the subtle art of being wise with resources without appearing or acting like a cheap-ass.

Many people on this forum have lost their way.

The purpose of a wallet is to hold money and cards.  If the wallet lazycow is using fulfills that purpose, then it is as functional as a 'beautiful'/newer wallet.  Mending things is far better for the environment than buying new (including new cheap) stuff . . . holding on to things for a long period of time and learning to be satisfied with what you have is a vital part of frugal mentality and makes you a better person.

Disclaimer - I am a person who has a 30 year old wallet I'm not only perfectly happy with, but have grown emotionally attached to as we've been through so much of life together.  :P
For the record, most have advised buying one used, thus saving, not adding to, the landfill. Mustachian as hell, in my book.

Also, OP's original description in bold above, was changed to:

I cheerfully admit that in this instance I am being cheap. I wouldn't make anyone *else* do this, but I simply couldn't care less about the appearance of a credit card-sized wallet. It lives inside my good leather wallet so no one sees it anyway....
So was it actually a wallet or just a plastic sleeve that she carries inside her "good leather wallet"?

What we can all surely agree on is this is an excellent MPP, and it's nice that we all have time to discuss such minutiae. It is not evidence that the community have "lost their way". For proof of that, you'll have to look elsewhere. For those so inclined, there are plenty of stones to be cast on other threads.

Dicey, however, must shove off now. It's her turn to volunteer at her favorite thrift store today. Maybe she'll see some great wallets. If so, she'll leave them for others to discover, as hers is just fine. The zipper's getting a little balky, but that's perfect for a mustachian, right?


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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8278 on: January 20, 2021, 11:20:25 AM »
I love how Dicey characterized this:

:In my pre-FIRE years, I preferred the challenge of stealth frugality, which is the subtle art of being wise with resources without appearing or acting like a cheap-ass.:

This is a motto I want to live by. We are the most frugal of all of our friends, and  I love comparing our lifestyles and discovering that they are overpaying for everything they do/have while we have the same standard, and use our resources carefully.


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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8279 on: January 20, 2021, 02:54:48 PM »
...The zipper's getting a little balky, but that's perfect for a mustachian, right?

I know that this isn't a "Fix each other's problems" thread, but if you decide that you want to make your zipper run more smoothly, try rubbing the graphite part of a pencil on the teeth. I don't know why I think that this helps, but it's lodged in my head as though it's a real thing.
Dry powdered graphite is sold directly as a lubricant so probably works similarly (example). I've used it on squeaky/sticking door latches/locks.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8280 on: January 20, 2021, 06:53:22 PM »
My policy is only to use brand new wallets that people gift me, because they can't stand the sight of my previous, beat up wallet.

This is my new philosophy! My previous wallet had a zipper issue, but it still held it shut. Then a friend did a declutter and gave me a brand-new wallet that she didn't like. It's sort-of designer, with a tiny stage coach metal fob so it's special /s/. My old wallet cost $5, and the one before that was a gift from my SO from a clearance bin. :)

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8281 on: January 22, 2021, 05:16:36 PM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8282 on: January 22, 2021, 06:32:36 PM »
What is the resurfacing for?  This boggles an Alabamian's mind as much as being told that my FIL used to park his car on Lake Erie in the winter.

So you can play ice hockey on it of course. :)

Nuts, aren't they?

I figured, but I didn't know if it was for a parking lot or an ice hotel or whatever other things people do on ice up there.  I don't really have much frame of reference for what all one does on a frozen lake.

The real irony is I don't even really skate. This whole project is just because a friend presented me with an interesting problem to solve... They've already built a homemade Zamboni. It does great at filling in holes and cracks, but it does work well if there are bumps on top the ice rink, so they were scraping those off by hand which took hours. The rink is on a frozen lake, so sometimes if it snows and then rains on top you get really rough nasty ice. In theory this will smooth it down enough to finish with their Zamboni.

Partial success. The concept worked reasonably well for a beta test. It was particularly good at removing ice from the driveway. However I broke blade mount on the free mower I've been using for the last four summers. Seems like a simple part, but I suspect it might not be replaced very often...


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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8283 on: January 22, 2021, 07:45:19 PM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.
I dropped mine a few years ago and broke off a corner of the oval shape, leaving a jagged edge. I'm happy to report that after a few more years of wear the jagged edge is now smooth :) Can you glue the pieces together?

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8284 on: January 24, 2021, 01:48:04 PM »
To save money, I started making my own nut bars (like the imported KIND bars that go for $3/bar here in China). My recipe makes about 15 bars and should theoretically last us the week. My MPP is that they are so tasty that all members of the family eat multiple bars a day, and it’s only Tuesday and we are almost out of nut bars.

They sound delicious. Are you willing to share the recipe?

Recipe: https://www.godairyfree.org/recipes/homemade-kind-bars-chocolate-cherry

And...of course, like any baker, I’ve made substitutions based on what I had in my pantry and substantially changed the recipe, so I don’t actually know how the original version tastes. I made the following substitutions:

1. Replaced dried cherries with dried cranberries
2. Replaced brown rice cereal with sunflower seeds
3. Left out the chocolate chunks
4. Replaced brown rice syrup with honey and maple syrup
5. Replaced almond butter with peanut butter
6. Made a chocolate icing from cocoa powder, icing sugar, and milk to drizzle over the bars
7. Added 1/4 cup peanuts
8. Added a tablespoon of chia seeds for extra healthiness

But I kept everything else in the recipe the same! Hah!

I am stealing this recipe--thanks! Between them being the homemade version and whatever substitutions I end up making to your substitutions, I'd better start calling them "Kind of bars."

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8285 on: January 24, 2021, 06:15:17 PM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.

I have repeatedly done that, and use the bigger pieces still. Some days if I catch the wrong angle I get a cut that's worse than razor burn.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8286 on: January 24, 2021, 11:53:30 PM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.

I have repeatedly done that, and use the bigger pieces still. Some days if I catch the wrong angle I get a cut that's worse than razor burn.
Seriously, how much is a new one?

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8287 on: January 25, 2021, 01:29:53 AM »
To save money, I started making my own nut bars (like the imported KIND bars that go for $3/bar here in China). My recipe makes about 15 bars and should theoretically last us the week. My MPP is that they are so tasty that all members of the family eat multiple bars a day, and it’s only Tuesday and we are almost out of nut bars.

They sound delicious. Are you willing to share the recipe?

Recipe: https://www.godairyfree.org/recipes/homemade-kind-bars-chocolate-cherry

And...of course, like any baker, I’ve made substitutions based on what I had in my pantry and substantially changed the recipe, so I don’t actually know how the original version tastes. I made the following substitutions:

1. Replaced dried cherries with dried cranberries
2. Replaced brown rice cereal with sunflower seeds
3. Left out the chocolate chunks
4. Replaced brown rice syrup with honey and maple syrup
5. Replaced almond butter with peanut butter
6. Made a chocolate icing from cocoa powder, icing sugar, and milk to drizzle over the bars
7. Added 1/4 cup peanuts
8. Added a tablespoon of chia seeds for extra healthiness

But I kept everything else in the recipe the same! Hah!

I am stealing this recipe--thanks! Between them being the homemade version and whatever substitutions I end up making to your substitutions, I'd better start calling them "Kind of bars."

😂Love the name! I may start referring to these bars as Kind Of Bars too!

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8288 on: January 25, 2021, 01:41:55 AM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.

I have repeatedly done that, and use the bigger pieces still. Some days if I catch the wrong angle I get a cut that's worse than razor burn.
Seriously, how much is a new one?

Dicey, I love most of what you write, I really do. You seem to have quite a strong reaction to what you perceive as "cheapness" (personally I don't like the word). Why? Some people are different than you. Some get contentment or fun out of getting the last bit of use out of things. Some don't enjoy shopping. Just let people be :)
« Last Edit: January 25, 2021, 01:47:37 AM by Green_Tea »

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8289 on: January 25, 2021, 04:39:52 AM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.

I have repeatedly done that, and use the bigger pieces still. Some days if I catch the wrong angle I get a cut that's worse than razor burn.
Seriously, how much is a new one?

Dicey, I love most of what you write, I really do. You seem to have quite a strong reaction to what you perceive as "cheapness" (personally I don't like the word). Why? Some people are different than you. Some get contentment or fun out of getting the last bit of use out of things. Some don't enjoy shopping. Just let people be :)
Last I checked, deodorant crystals were about five bucks or less. Practicing self-mutilation to save so little money might just be penny wise and pound foolish, IMO.

While I appreciate your feedback, Green_Tea and will take it under advisement, people who just want to be "let be" should consider whether a public forum is the best place for them.

As for cheapness, I don't mind being cheap as long as it doesn't effect others. When one is stingy or expects others to pick up the slack while they keep their hands in their pockets, yeah, you're right, I hate that.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8290 on: January 25, 2021, 10:08:25 AM »
I am enjoying the irony of the poster with 45ish posts scolding the poster with 14.5k-ish posts about how they post.

And for the record - if your personal care item is causing physical harm, that needs to be addressed in some way. Given this is a rock, may I recommend sandpaper to smooth the rough edges? Or perhaps a file?

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8291 on: January 25, 2021, 11:07:05 AM »
I am enjoying the irony of the poster with 45ish posts scolding the poster with 14.5k-ish posts about how they post.

I do understand this, but on the other hand I don't think we can all be waving our walking sticks and shouting at these young whippersnappers who have the temerity to be in slightly the wrong spot on the space-time continuum and not have signed up to the forum several years ago. And I've got more posts than you, so you can't tell me off - so ner!   /joke

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8292 on: January 25, 2021, 11:10:19 AM »
I am enjoying the irony of the poster with 45ish posts scolding the poster with 14.5k-ish posts about how they post.

I do understand this, but on the other hand I don't think we can all be waving our walking sticks and shouting at these young whippersnappers who have the temerity to be in slightly the wrong spot on the space-time continuum and not have signed up to the forum several years ago. And I've got more posts than you, so you can't tell me off - so ner!   /joke

I have fewer posts than either of you, but I think it is pretty legit to point out alternatives to literal self harming.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8293 on: January 25, 2021, 11:36:39 AM »
Yesterday, while cutting firewood I overheard a conversation about money between some teens I don't know. Their family just happened to be cutting firewood at the same time as me. I only heard bits of it, but it was pretty clear they thought spending money = having money. The mustachian in me wanted to join the conversation and try to help them understand how to create wealth. Then I realized my jacket and pants were both bought in '04 and I looked much more likely to be homeless than FI.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8294 on: January 25, 2021, 11:47:20 AM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.

I have repeatedly done that, and use the bigger pieces still. Some days if I catch the wrong angle I get a cut that's worse than razor burn.
Seriously, how much is a new one?

Dicey, I love most of what you write, I really do. You seem to have quite a strong reaction to what you perceive as "cheapness" (personally I don't like the word). Why? Some people are different than you. Some get contentment or fun out of getting the last bit of use out of things. Some don't enjoy shopping. Just let people be :)
Last I checked, deodorant crystals were about five bucks or less. Practicing self-mutilation to save so little money might just be penny wise and pound foolish, IMO.

While I appreciate your feedback, Green_Tea and will take it under advisement, people who just want to be "let be" should consider whether a public forum is the best place for them.

As for cheapness, I don't mind being cheap as long as it doesn't effect others. When one is stingy or expects others to pick up the slack while they keep their hands in their pockets, yeah, you're right, I hate that.

Hey Dicey, I totally agree that hurting oneself/others or being stingy towards others isn't a good way to be frugal (my pet peeve is animals, I hate it when people aren't VERY generous in the care for their animals).
What I was thinking about was the initial post of La bibliothecaria, implying she would have liked to use the crystal up (even though it might be cheap to replace) and the "wallet-example" of continuing to use things that have been repared in a "crappy" way. Both of which I think aren't cheap per se.

I am enjoying the irony of the poster with 45ish posts scolding the poster with 14.5k-ish posts about how they post.
I can only guess that this is supposed to be somewhat comical. Just to clarify, I was in no way "scolding" and it wasn't about how she posts.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2021, 12:21:53 PM by Green_Tea »

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8295 on: January 25, 2021, 12:44:26 PM »
If you have a crack in your rock, the mustachian solution is to put it in your pipe and smoke it

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« Reply #8296 on: January 25, 2021, 02:08:49 PM »

I am enjoying the irony of the poster with 45ish posts scolding the poster with 14.5k-ish posts about how they post.
I can only guess that this is supposed to be somewhat comical. Just to clarify, I was in no way "scolding" and it wasn't about how she posts.

You are correct, but I don't know how to put the laughing emoji in on this forum. And it wasn't really sarcasm, so /s didn't seem appropriate. I found it legitimately funny. :)

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« Reply #8297 on: January 25, 2021, 03:03:12 PM »

I am enjoying the irony of the poster with 45ish posts scolding the poster with 14.5k-ish posts about how they post.
I can only guess that this is supposed to be somewhat comical. Just to clarify, I was in no way "scolding" and it wasn't about how she posts.

You are correct, but I don't know how to put the laughing emoji in on this forum. And it wasn't really sarcasm, so /s didn't seem appropriate. I found it legitimately funny. :)

It lets me use emoji but not pictures. It just times out when I try to upload a picture. 🤣

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8298 on: January 25, 2021, 03:54:38 PM »
I calculated my Wife's 401k contributions wrong (can only enter a %) - we had 14$ of unused tax advantaged space in 2020. shameful.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #8299 on: January 25, 2021, 07:48:29 PM »
My MPP: I dropped my deodorant rock crystal and now it is like 5 jagged little pieces :-(.

I have repeatedly done that, and use the bigger pieces still. Some days if I catch the wrong angle I get a cut that's worse than razor burn.
Seriously, how much is a new one?

About $7

My friend gave it to me and I'm trying to see how long I can make it last to tell her. It's been over a couple years!

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!