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« Reply #4350 on: November 01, 2017, 05:02:14 AM »
I've been pulling my hair out for the last few days because we are set to completely blow our budget this month.
We have two modest incomes and a perfect storm of (mostly optional, but certainly preferred) expenses have arisen.

After endlessly pondering over the spreadsheet, I caught site of the cell with our savings rate percentage. 
We're still saving a third of our income.  I need to get a grip, this month is a one off and normal service will resume in December.

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« Reply #4351 on: November 01, 2017, 09:22:53 AM »
My MPP is that my last-day-of-month dividends don't show up until first-day-of-new-month, so I can't check my allocations when I want.

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« Reply #4352 on: November 02, 2017, 03:44:39 AM »
So I've truly never understood... why not just turn a robe around? Then tada, you have a blanket with sleeves. Am I missing something? I've had friends with snuggies (and they both also owned fluffy robes). I just don't get it.
Lol, I do this in winter all the time. It would never even occur to me to want a snuggie. Where would I store it the rest of the year? Of course, I live in CA, so there's a lot less winter than some folks experience. Another advantage of not watching TV is I hardly know what one is.


I found one at a thrift store, and it's wonderful for sleeping. I tend to throw my arms up over my head in my sleep, and now they (and my hands: it's a big Snuggie) don't get cold when I do.

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« Reply #4353 on: November 02, 2017, 04:14:48 AM »
New MPP: I've never, in all of my work travels in, stayed in a hotel with lingerie and sex toys on the mini bar menu...I don't know if that means the places I stay are not nice enough, or are too nice...

You're probably in the sweet spot in between "too nice" (rich people's affairs and $1000/night escorts) and "not nice enough" (rents by the hour).

Husband regularly stays in places that are $3000-$5000 a night. He can get absolutely anything he wants with one phone call.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) he spends absolutely every second working, so usually has no time for fun.
I guess I'm just naive, but holy shit.  Holy shit.  I always thought the $400/night hotels were the expensive ones.

It's not as glamorous as it sounds. He once booked into a $3500/night room at 1am and had to be out again at 5am. He didn't even sleep, figured it would make him more tired, so he sat in the plunge pool with a beer, went for a walk on the beach, had a shower, packed and left for the airport.



 Even in SF, $5k gets you a giant presidential suite. When Iím traveling For work, i ainít got time for that, I just want to lay down and close my eyes donít care if itís a closet.  Is the point just to waste client/company money?  Surely there are more reasonable options available?

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« Reply #4354 on: November 02, 2017, 05:26:37 AM »
Even in SF, $5k gets you a giant presidential suite. When Iím traveling For work, i ainít got time for that, I just want to lay down and close my eyes donít care if itís a closet.  Is the point just to waste client/company money?  Surely there are more reasonable options available?

He doesn't choose the accommodation, just gets told where he's staying. The companies that host him and his colleagues tend to try to outdo each other.

The business/first class flights are for a pragmatic reason. The boys need to be able to fly LA or London or Oslo and get off the plane at the other end ready to work immediately. They have to be well rested or it becomes a liability problem.

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« Reply #4355 on: November 02, 2017, 02:20:16 PM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

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« Reply #4356 on: November 02, 2017, 02:42:02 PM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

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« Reply #4357 on: November 02, 2017, 04:35:21 PM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

This is hilarious.

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« Reply #4358 on: November 03, 2017, 01:58:01 AM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

This is hilarious.

Note the complete lack of denial

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« Reply #4359 on: November 03, 2017, 04:41:09 AM »
Omg he's James Bond, isn't he?

I bet when he arrives, they open the closet and it has a tuxedo in his exact size

This is hilarious.

Note the complete lack of denial

He's never worn a tux, grumbles at having to wear a suit two or three times a year, and the only martinis he drinks are espresso martinis ... but he has driven Aston Martins.

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« Reply #4360 on: November 03, 2017, 09:20:31 AM »
But were the espresso martinis shaken, not stirred?

I'm in the pretty sure he's 007 club.

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« Reply #4361 on: November 03, 2017, 09:24:24 AM »
If you had an Aston Martini, could you drink and drive?

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« Reply #4362 on: November 03, 2017, 11:27:17 AM »
If you had an Aston Martini, could you drink and drive?
Just because you could does not mean you should. Even the old greek philosophers have known that, Solon!

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« Reply #4363 on: November 04, 2017, 07:16:48 AM »
Thank you all for the cautionary tales of extended family and expensive food, I called today and said that we would like to look into cheaper alternatives for Christmas brunch. No response yet, I'm sure everyone there  (MIL and assorted siblings) are steaming and fuming about my presumption and pushing back against what MIL wants. Oy! There has been some serious matriarchal brainwashing in that family. The crappy communication patterns make it a challenge to engage with them, that's for sure.

Hmm, my MPP, realizing that we have about 15% of our portfolio uninvested, and that seems way too  high.

Edited to add that we are trying to just use one car. My husband needs it this morning, so I normally bike to work and errands, but it just started raining. I supppose I will borrow his bright yellow rain gear, so not such an MPP. I am pretty committed to ditching a car and don't want to derail the experiment!
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« Reply #4364 on: November 04, 2017, 07:23:18 AM »
Hadilly, you're my hero! I wonder if there is a link between crappy communication patterns and over-consumption, as the problems that you face seem to be nearly identical to the ones that prevail in my family. I'm rooting for you!

(I keep hoping that someone will admit to being secretly relieved at my suggesting cheaper options, but I may be holding out for a while yet!)

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« Reply #4365 on: November 04, 2017, 11:20:49 AM »
I had to move all my spreadsheet columns over when two accounts hit six figures in the same month. :)

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« Reply #4366 on: November 04, 2017, 11:43:12 AM »
I had to move all my spreadsheet columns over when two accounts hit six figures in the same month. :).

A true MPP!   it is good to have a place to to celebrate "problems" that few IRL have.

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« Reply #4367 on: November 04, 2017, 01:39:25 PM »
We were planning on paying off student loans this month when SOs RSUs vest. However, as part of open enrollment, his employer put out literature about using your bonus for after tax 401k contributions. Now, he has finally done his research about mega back door Roths, and decided to make the maximum allowable contributions from the last few paychecks. We will have to live off the cashed in RSUs, as my income is minimal through the winter and already goes to tax advantaged accounts.

The process is similar, but this is so much better than juggling every penny I have to keep from bouncing any checks.

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« Reply #4368 on: November 05, 2017, 06:15:03 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on meals, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

 My MPP, I let the house be cold in the fall and winter.  That means when ingredients need to be at room temperature I have to warm them up.   My butter never softens and my honey has gone solid.

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« Reply #4369 on: November 05, 2017, 06:48:08 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on measles, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

Don't confuse a work perk with spending big.

As for the rest of that sentence... DYAC?

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« Reply #4370 on: November 05, 2017, 06:49:59 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on measles, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

 My MPP, I let the house be cold in the fall and winter.  That means when ingredients need to be at room temperature I have to warm them up.   My butter never softens and my honey has gone solid.

Funny, I just commented to my husband this evening that it's kind of nice that the honey I put on my bread stays put and doesn't run off onto the plate.

Getting bread dough warm enough to rise, however, is my MPP lately. (Thank you, whoever it was who suggested putting the dough in a toaster oven or microwave (turned off) with a bowl of warm water! That has been working. Just takes some monitoring and occasional refilling, but no 12-18 hour constant use of electricity or propane. Yay!)

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« Reply #4371 on: November 05, 2017, 10:59:28 PM »
Sun Hat: thank you! I fear the backlash of the silent treatment has begun. No response to suggesting we FaceTime together this weekend.

MPP: we bought three cheap turkeys this weekend and I cooked one as a test run for thanksgiving. I ended up buying a baking steel so I could do the Serious Eats method. Kind of pricey but we will use for pizzas, etc. in the future. If anyone tries dry brining, I would recommend omitting the baking powder and just using salt. It was supposed to produce extra crispy skin, but bleagh, the proportions were terrible and I tossed all the skin. There is your dry brine PSA, and now back to MPPs.

Congratulations Misstachian!

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« Reply #4372 on: November 05, 2017, 11:31:29 PM »
Sun Hat: thank you! I fear the backlash of the silent treatment has begun. No response to suggesting we FaceTime together this weekend.

I hope this works out well for you.

My family have just this year agreed to stop giving presents to adults. I've been encouraging it for a while, but wasn't the instigator this time. The success in getting traction was my skint sibling focusing on what people actually want (spending time with the people we love) rather than what we do (unwrapping presents that we don't particularly need or want).

Has MIL actually expressed fury, or has everyone else expressed it on MIL's behalf? Can you find an alternative that has something that the pricey place doesn't (even if it is easier parking, or closer to MIL, or an earlier sitting)?

In my story, the siblings that were protesting the lack of presents loudest were claiming that our parents would feel put out if they couldn't buy presents. But no, it turns out they were delighted by the idea.

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« Reply #4373 on: November 06, 2017, 02:54:18 AM »
I am currently staying in a hotel for work and found out this morning that breakfast is not included. As I arrived at 10 pm last night and my conferance started early I didn't have the time to search for a cheap breakfast solution. So I paid for the 24 euro rip-off hotel breakfast. This costs more than the amount I receive from my work for buying food.

I have asked the personell for the closest food shop and he explained a big shopping mall and 15-20 minutes walking from here. I hope the restaurant that I reserved for tonight is in the vicinity of the shop so that I have the time to buy my own breakfast for the next 2 days.

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« Reply #4374 on: November 06, 2017, 11:34:37 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

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« Reply #4375 on: November 06, 2017, 01:28:21 PM »
Whoa I'm feeling the big spenders the last few pages. Never been in anywhere near that cost a room, nor spent that much money on measles, and I task my lab support out for lunch every year.

Don't confuse a work perk with spending big.

As for the rest of that sentence... DYAC?

GAHH!  At least it wasn't actual measles, that would be bad.  Thanks for the question :).

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« Reply #4376 on: November 07, 2017, 12:38:08 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.

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« Reply #4377 on: November 07, 2017, 05:08:28 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.

Now I can't talk about the cost of flights as I came from the US but you just gave my budget from last year without trying to scrimp or work in New Zealand.  (Now I rented vs bought a car).  I could have easily spent 50% what I did in NZ last march so flights included with renting a car would have been less than $4,000 before working.

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« Reply #4378 on: November 07, 2017, 06:34:44 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.

Now I can't talk about the cost of flights as I came from the US but you just gave my budget from last year without trying to scrimp or work in New Zealand.  (Now I rented vs bought a car).  I could have easily spent 50% what I did in NZ last march so flights included with renting a car would have been less than $4,000 before working.

That's pretty affordable for a long trip to NZ! I'm not completely sure about the cost of flights either - I pay coworkers' economy flights as I work in finance so I have a vague idea about what that would cost, but I don't actually book them so I have no idea if this is average.

I think all in all I spent Ä2500 including housing and tution on six weeks in Scandinavia, back in 2011. I do think it's good to travel during or right after college if you can afford it. I believe it's valuable life experience to go somewhere on your own where you don't speak the language. You can of course do it at any point in life, but at this age you don't have a lot of responsibilities, steady jobs, mortgages, kids, marriage, those kind of things.

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« Reply #4379 on: November 07, 2017, 09:31:23 AM »
In here that's a mark of being 'lower class': having a washing machine in the kitchen.

As someone who moved from the UK to the US and discovered that 'Muricans have a whole ROOM dedicated to their laundry, I still giggle inside when the aforementioned 'Muricans are shocked that us Brits keep ours in the kitchen.

That depends. We have more of a wide hallway for our laundry machines. A laundry room without hallway running through it would truly be luxurious.

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« Reply #4380 on: November 07, 2017, 10:00:42 AM »
It was a particularly cold morning earlier this week. I cycle to work and arrived just as someone else arrived in their 4x4 they have probably driven less than 5 miles. I had forgotten this since last winter but itís the look I receive as if Iím the one thatís completely mad!

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« Reply #4381 on: November 07, 2017, 10:10:23 AM »
In here that's a mark of being 'lower class': having a washing machine in the kitchen.

As someone who moved from the UK to the US and discovered that 'Muricans have a whole ROOM dedicated to their laundry, I still giggle inside when the aforementioned 'Muricans are shocked that us Brits keep ours in the kitchen.

That depends. We have more of a wide hallway for our laundry machines. A laundry room without hallway running through it would truly be luxurious.
Yeah, my American "laundry room" is basically a small hallway where my bathroom, kitchen, furnace, and door to the garage all huddle together, with laundry machines on the side.

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« Reply #4382 on: November 07, 2017, 11:21:53 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.
With some people's spending habits and trips I do indeed wonder too ;)

However I had 17k euros saved up but have to say I've been lucky as my parents earned 'too little' money for the wonderful Dutch uni system so I got a partial extra allowance (aanvullende beurs) on top of the basic one. But most of the money came from hours and hours of tutoring. Picking cheap cities helped too.

The traveling averaged 800/month including big stuff like a diving course, but I know people who managed to stay around 500/month or even less. So actually your summer school spendings are exactly the kind of money I'm talking about - would be a solid 3-6 month trip in Asia :)

Btw; 2500 for a flight is outrageous. Round trip Sydney should be around 1000 and if you're creative on good deals or want to combine with Asia you book a ticket Europe - Bankok (200-300), then Bankok/KL/Singapore - Australia/NZ (100-200). If you can do those as round trips it's even cheaper.
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« Reply #4383 on: November 07, 2017, 11:49:17 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

I hope you will consider yourself extremely fortunate rather than not understanding other people not having money.  Very lucky that you could live with parents and also graduate without debt.  Not everyone is so blessed. 

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« Reply #4384 on: November 07, 2017, 12:02:55 PM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

I hope you will consider yourself extremely fortunate rather than not understanding other people not having money.  Very lucky that you could live with parents and also graduate without debt.  Not everyone is so blessed.
Ofcourse I realize I've been fortunate. Especially in the US/UK this would be a lot harder. And obviously there's plenty of imaginable health/family/name any potential problem situation that would make it impossible to work, stay with parents or that increased costs due to a study delay.
Maybe I've been a bit too harsh in my words here. I heard this question mostly in my hometown from people that stayed with their parents their whole studies and sometimes even worked higher paying weekend jobs than me. They've just been spendypants ;)

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« Reply #4385 on: November 07, 2017, 03:37:46 PM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

I hope you will consider yourself extremely fortunate rather than not understanding other people not having money.  Very lucky that you could live with parents and also graduate without debt.  Not everyone is so blessed.
Ofcourse I realize I've been fortunate. Especially in the US/UK this would be a lot harder. And obviously there's plenty of imaginable health/family/name any potential problem situation that would make it impossible to work, stay with parents or that increased costs due to a study delay.
Maybe I've been a bit too harsh in my words here. I heard this question mostly in my hometown from people that stayed with their parents their whole studies and sometimes even worked higher paying weekend jobs than me. They've just been spendypants ;)

17k is very good for a student! Well done. Of course, part of it is good luck (we're all lucky to have been born in first world countries, and especially if you're born in a country where higher education is very cheap) but another big part of it is hard work. For the context: in our country tuition is about Ä2000/year and back then you could get Ä400/Ä600 month from the government + free public traffic as a student. Most students have enough time to work 10 hours or more every week. Under those circumstances, I think it's possible for a lot of people to save up money as a student. Because our country is so small, distance is generally not an issue if you want to continue living with your parents. For the younger generation saving up will be a lot more difficult though: sadly our government has decided to stop sponsoring students. You can still borrow money, but you don't get any free money for maintenance anymore. We also don't really have the grants and bursary system the US has, so unless your parents are rich, the current generation of students are going to graduate with massive debts.

Of course, that doesn't mean everyone can save up so much money, but for many people it was definitely possible and they didn't because of their own spending patterns / lifestyle choices. I have always been frugal, but my life between the ages of 16 and 24 was quite rocky for various reasons which made that a very expensive period of my life. I didn't have 17k in my pocket, but I managed to save up just enough to buy a house when I was 24, so you don't hear me complaining about never going to NZ :) I think I had about 10k at that point and we were literally broke after buying the house. Still the best decision I ever made, financially as well as personally.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4386 on: November 07, 2017, 03:58:34 PM »
In here that's a mark of being 'lower class': having a washing machine in the kitchen.

As someone who moved from the UK to the US and discovered that 'Muricans have a whole ROOM dedicated to their laundry, I still giggle inside when the aforementioned 'Muricans are shocked that us Brits keep ours in the kitchen.

That depends. We have more of a wide hallway for our laundry machines. A laundry room without hallway running through it would truly be luxurious.

I still think it's funny that we have different definitions of laundry.

In Australia, laundry is the room and washing is a noun. E.g. I'm going to put on a load of washing.

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« Reply #4387 on: November 07, 2017, 04:32:23 PM »
I chose a cheap candy at Costco that trick or treaters love and I dislike, saving money and calori consumption. Hi-chews for the win!
Lol, me, too! I can't believe how much the kids loved them!

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« Reply #4388 on: November 07, 2017, 08:51:04 PM »
In here that's a mark of being 'lower class': having a washing machine in the kitchen.

As someone who moved from the UK to the US and discovered that 'Muricans have a whole ROOM dedicated to their laundry, I still giggle inside when the aforementioned 'Muricans are shocked that us Brits keep ours in the kitchen.

That depends. We have more of a wide hallway for our laundry machines. A laundry room without hallway running through it would truly be luxurious.

I still think it's funny that we have different definitions of laundry.

In Australia, laundry is the room and washing is a noun. E.g. I'm going to put on a load of washing.

MPP - been sitting here reading forums, forgot the washing. Our laundry's out the back with our outside toilet. That might also be a v Australian thing!

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« Reply #4389 on: November 08, 2017, 02:57:34 AM »
Mustachian problem. Today I had to pay for my hotel. I do not remember the pin code for my CC that gives 1% payback on everything. It is somewhere on a file in my password manager, but that is too much fuss to retrieve when you need to pay pronto. So I grabbed my debet visa card. Stupid, because now I am paying immediately instead of being able to wait until my boss pays me back.

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« Reply #4390 on: November 08, 2017, 06:59:51 AM »
Every time I tell people I traveled for a year after graduating uni, they ask me 'How did you ever afford that?' or 'Well, then you must be broke now'. And all I can think of is that I don't understand how you can't have the money for a few months worth travel and that I actually have plenty of money left.

(Talking Europe here, studying is relatively cheap + stayed with my parents for 2 out of 5 years)

Well, I have wanted to ask that to people, but I never actually did (fellow European). I get how you can afford to go backpacking in a cheap place, but many people seem to go to very expensive places like Australia and New Zealand, buy a car there, drive around. They plan to go fruit picking for a few weeks, but even if they do that, I'm pretty sure the plane tickets alone cost like Ä2500 at least, not to mention the hostels, gas, insurance, food, money for entrance fees etc. All in all must run well into the thousands of euros. I certainly didn't have that kind of money lying around to randomnly spend on something when I was fresh out of university.

But I'm really glad you went and enjoyed yourself :) As a more frugal option I did a summer school abroad in a country where the government sponsors students so everything was cheap. I really loved going there.

Hi! So I actually did pretty much what you described. Here's how I did it:

Before university from the age of 16-18 I worked evenings/weekends so that by the time I went off to uni I had about £5000 saved up. By the end of uni thanks to the student loans I still had about £1000 left over. Plane tickets really aren't that expensive! I bought a working holiday visa & one-way ticket to Australia for £500. Arrived in Sydney, booked 2 weeks accommodation at a hostel and then met a couple of French backpackers who had bought a cheap van. Ended up traveling around with them for a month, living out of the van/tents and really only paying for cheap food we cooked ourselves and petrol. I then Few up to the top Northeast corner and worked by way down the coast, stopping off to work at a few farms along the way. Eventually ended up in Sydney sharing an apartment in the city center and doing odd jobs before eventually coming back 10 months later.

So with a combination of living cheaply and working a few weeks here and there on the farms I traveled around Australia for 10 months on 'only £1000'. Great experience and could have happily stayed longer but wanted to get back for the start of the UK summer and a job here I wanted to do over it.

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« Reply #4391 on: November 08, 2017, 09:32:07 PM »
There was a meme about taking over the world with 10k of the last thing you bought. I went grocery shopping a week ago. That seemed more like the way to save the world, so I didn't participate.

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« Reply #4392 on: November 09, 2017, 04:29:31 PM »
There was a meme about taking over the world with 10k of the last thing you bought. I went grocery shopping a week ago. That seemed more like the way to save the world, so I didn't participate.


Hmm. What can you do with 10K brake calipers?

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« Reply #4393 on: November 09, 2017, 10:05:19 PM »
I feel deeply conflicted about wrapping paper. Why buy a product without any purpose, just to throw it away after 5 minutes of use?
We actually have wrapping paper that is embedded with wildflower seeds, so after you use it, you lay it on the ground and water it and a pretty little garden should grow. Unfortunately, I think is really cool, and never want to wrap a gift with it and give to a family I feel won't appreciate the idea and use it.... So I use it only rarely!  Those I deem undeserving of my precious flower paper get a gift bag instead. At least gift bags are reusable.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4394 on: November 13, 2017, 01:22:15 AM »
In here that's a mark of being 'lower class': having a washing machine in the kitchen.

As someone who moved from the UK to the US and discovered that 'Muricans have a whole ROOM dedicated to their laundry, I still giggle inside when the aforementioned 'Muricans are shocked that us Brits keep ours in the kitchen.

That depends. We have more of a wide hallway for our laundry machines. A laundry room without hallway running through it would truly be luxurious.

I still think it's funny that we have different definitions of laundry.

In Australia, laundry is the room and washing is a noun. E.g. I'm going to put on a load of washing.

MPP - been sitting here reading forums, forgot the washing. Our laundry's out the back with our outside toilet. That might also be a v Australian thing!

I have that in Britain! Just outside our back door is a brick lean-to outhouse where we keep our dishwasher, washing machine and freezer. It's really flipping cold to put dinner plates in the dishwasher in winter, but it's the only place we could fit them and at least it's nice and quiet in the house.

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Re: Mustachian People Problems (just for fun)
« Reply #4395 on: November 14, 2017, 07:24:55 PM »
In here that's a mark of being 'lower class': having a washing machine in the kitchen.

As someone who moved from the UK to the US and discovered that 'Muricans have a whole ROOM dedicated to their laundry, I still giggle inside when the aforementioned 'Muricans are shocked that us Brits keep ours in the kitchen.

That depends. We have more of a wide hallway for our laundry machines. A laundry room without hallway running through it would truly be luxurious.

I still think it's funny that we have different definitions of laundry.

In Australia, laundry is the room and washing is a noun. E.g. I'm going to put on a load of washing.

MPP - been sitting here reading forums, forgot the washing. Our laundry's out the back with our outside toilet. That might also be a v Australian thing!

I have that in Britain! Just outside our back door is a brick lean-to outhouse where we keep our dishwasher, washing machine and freezer. It's really flipping cold to put dinner plates in the dishwasher in winter, but it's the only place we could fit them and at least it's nice and quiet in the house.

Some time ago I was checking out houses I can't afford & would never buy, and at some point one gorgeous house had a subpar kitchen... with washer&drier! I found it very odd, especially in such a beautiful and expensive house. Then it hit me... it's to allow the servants to do both at the same time and limit the spaces wasted for such trivial and vulgar activities as cooking and laundry. Nice kitchens and laundry rooms are sooo middle class! (clutches imaginary pearls)
 

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« Reply #4396 on: November 14, 2017, 11:06:36 PM »
I noticed something similar in California when looking for homes.  You could tell who had domestic help by the condition of the laundry room.  Most self respecting people making a family income of $80k/yr or more would not be caught dead with the aged appliances I saw....  I think a new washer was the first appliance most people I knew ever purchased -- because baby was on the way.

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« Reply #4397 on: November 14, 2017, 11:52:15 PM »
I noticed something similar in California when looking for homes.  You could tell who had domestic help by the condition of the laundry room.  Most self respecting people making a family income of $80k/yr or more would not be caught dead with the aged appliances I saw....  I think a new washer was the first appliance most people I knew ever purchased -- because baby was on the way.

A lot of older people feel more comfortable with the old style appliances, and have a "if it's not broke, don't fix it" approach even if they have a bunch of money.  My parents do their own cooking and laundry, but have appliances that were original to the building in the early 80s.  Yes, they have a >30 year old fridge/stove that still runs, and apparently the HOA is responsible for replacing it if it breaks but it never has.  If they remodel, responsibility passes to them.

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« Reply #4398 on: November 15, 2017, 12:27:51 AM »
Yeah,   that wasn't it.   My mom's 25 year old washer looked fantastic next to some of the ones that I saw, ... sitting in a $1.5 million dollar home and it was often the ONLY item that was older than 4 years.

People that don't replace washing machines because they are in good working condition often have other elements of quality but older items around, also in great maintained condition....  stay in one home for a long time, etc.

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« Reply #4399 on: November 15, 2017, 12:52:11 AM »
Yeah,   that wasn't it.   My mom's 25 year old washer looked fantastic next to some of the ones that I saw, ... sitting in a $1.5 million dollar home and it was often the ONLY item that was older than 4 years.

People that don't replace washing machines because they are in good working condition often have other elements of quality but older items around, also in great maintained condition....  stay in one home for a long time, etc.

So you're saying the rich people (or their household managers) buy shitty broke down appliances on craigsist?