Epic FU money stories

[SKL-HOU]

I'd like to know what the 17 items are.

Nothing out of the ordinary - it's pretty much standard stuff (from what I've seen of other agreements). 

Firm would: pay me 8 weeks' salary as severance, continue to award PTO until my end of employment, payout all accumulated PTO at end of employment, extend health insurance coverage to last day of month my employment ends, immediately provide letter with date of end of health insurance coverage.

I would: waive any claims against firm, waive any bonus firm issues, return any office equipment firm wants, agree not to disparage firm, not share confidential information, not share trade secrets. 

Note: I specifically did leave out "not contact firm's clients" because I want to use that as leverage if they think I'm looking to poach clients when I move to a competitor.

As of yet my supervisor has only sent one email with the gist of "I'll get back to you after I talk to HR."  Given the pace of our not-in-house HR department this could mean I'm cut loose tomorrow or in six weeks from Friday.  Either way is fine with me, as long as they pay up.

I saw on another thread that you were done. So did you get anything you asked for?

[ScreamingHeadGuy]

I'd like to know what the 17 items are.

Nothing out of the ordinary - it's pretty much standard stuff (from what I've seen of other agreements). 

Firm would: pay me 8 weeks' salary as severance, continue to award PTO until my end of employment, payout all accumulated PTO at end of employment, extend health insurance coverage to last day of month my employment ends, immediately provide letter with date of end of health insurance coverage.

I would: waive any claims against firm, waive any bonus firm issues, return any office equipment firm wants, agree not to disparage firm, not share confidential information, not share trade secrets. 

Note: I specifically did leave out "not contact firm's clients" because I want to use that as leverage if they think I'm looking to poach clients when I move to a competitor.

As of yet my supervisor has only sent one email with the gist of "I'll get back to you after I talk to HR."  Given the pace of our not-in-house HR department this could mean I'm cut loose tomorrow or in six weeks from Friday.  Either way is fine with me, as long as they pay up.

I saw on another thread that you were done. So did you get anything you asked for?

I might be contractually obligated to not discuss whether or not I have agreed to a separation package.  Maybe sorry for that. 

[achvfi]

I might be contractually obligated to not discuss whether or not I have agreed to a separation package.  Maybe sorry for that. 

Cool! Sounds good to me :)

[Dicey]

I'd like to know what the 17 items are.

Nothing out of the ordinary - it's pretty much standard stuff (from what I've seen of other agreements). 

Firm would: pay me 8 weeks' salary as severance, continue to award PTO until my end of employment, payout all accumulated PTO at end of employment, extend health insurance coverage to last day of month my employment ends, immediately provide letter with date of end of health insurance coverage.

I would: waive any claims against firm, waive any bonus firm issues, return any office equipment firm wants, agree not to disparage firm, not share confidential information, not share trade secrets. 

Note: I specifically did leave out "not contact firm's clients" because I want to use that as leverage if they think I'm looking to poach clients when I move to a competitor.

As of yet my supervisor has only sent one email with the gist of "I'll get back to you after I talk to HR."  Given the pace of our not-in-house HR department this could mean I'm cut loose tomorrow or in six weeks from Friday.  Either way is fine with me, as long as they pay up.

I saw on another thread that you were done. So did you get anything you asked for?

I might be contractually obligated to not discuss whether or not I have agreed to a separation package.  Maybe sorry for that.

For how long?

[Chris Pascale]

I might be contractually obligated to not discuss whether or not I have agreed to a separation package.  Maybe sorry for that. 

Cool! Sounds good to me :)

Wow, so your name really is Screaming Head Guy.

[talltexan]

His parents gave him "Head" for the middle name because of family tradition.

Otherwise, could have been Screaming James Guy.

[asauer]

I posted over in Bad Assity but someone suggested I post over here as well.  Yesterday I quit my incredibly toxic job.  It's been pretty bad for 3 years (since my hiring manager left and the CEO put his BFF who got fired from another org in place).  But, the last 4 months have been horrific, it's really affecting my mental health.  As an example of the kind of guy he is- he is the Chief HR Officer and this summer said "We should have a fried chicken food truck and a bunch of watermelon this week for our (mostly black) employee population because 'those people like that kind of thing'.  Seriously, you can't make this shit up.

In November was 'offered' a promotion- in reality I was  told I would be in a new role that was recently vacated.  Not only was I told that I would be in this VP role, but would also keep my old job so now I have 2 50 hour/ week jobs.  And they didn't want to pay me more.  Rather, I would be 'on a path' to more comp.  No.  Fucking.  Way.  So, I negotiated 20k more $ and actually got it b/c I appealed to HR regarding internal comp equity.  Then they dumped a client on me that is both verbally and emotionally abusive.  I don't mean 'difficult'.  I've dealt with that for a long time but this is actually abusive.  I reported her behaviors several times and the org refused to investigate (counter to federal law).  On top of that my boss kept saying 'What did I give you an extra 20k for if you can't handle a tough client?!"  Well, fuck them.  I don't need that.  Nothing is worth my mental health.

So in my mind I set an April 1 leave date.  We're nearly FI so I have a good runway.  I then reached out to someone who approached me for a contract role a few months ago.  They were still looking so I signed and quit.  I'll start with them on March 15th and the contract will take me all the way to my FIRE date in Feb 2022.  Leadership was totally floored when I resigned and started panicking over an upcoming big important meeting with the shit client. They wanted me to still attend.  I said nopey nope nope.  If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

I'm excited about the new job.  I get to approach it as mostly fun and temporary.

[Dicey]

Good for you @asauer! Enjoy what comes next.

[Tinker]

If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

The last threat/ultimatum of desperate management, "we're going to make you miss these last 2 weeks of pay!" is really just a relieved "oh god, thank you so much!" when you quit for FU reasons

[Much Fishing to Do]

I posted over in Bad Assity but someone suggested I post over here as well.  Yesterday I quit my incredibly toxic job.  It's been pretty bad for 3 years (since my hiring manager left and the CEO put his BFF who got fired from another org in place).  But, the last 4 months have been horrific, it's really affecting my mental health.  As an example of the kind of guy he is- he is the Chief HR Officer and this summer said "We should have a fried chicken food truck and a bunch of watermelon this week for our (mostly black) employee population because 'those people like that kind of thing'.  Seriously, you can't make this shit up.

In November was 'offered' a promotion- in reality I was  told I would be in a new role that was recently vacated.  Not only was I told that I would be in this VP role, but would also keep my old job so now I have 2 50 hour/ week jobs.  And they didn't want to pay me more.  Rather, I would be 'on a path' to more comp.  No.  Fucking.  Way.  So, I negotiated 20k more $ and actually got it b/c I appealed to HR regarding internal comp equity.  Then they dumped a client on me that is both verbally and emotionally abusive.  I don't mean 'difficult'.  I've dealt with that for a long time but this is actually abusive.  I reported her behaviors several times and the org refused to investigate (counter to federal law).  On top of that my boss kept saying 'What did I give you an extra 20k for if you can't handle a tough client?!"  Well, fuck them.  I don't need that.  Nothing is worth my mental health.

So in my mind I set an April 1 leave date.  We're nearly FI so I have a good runway.  I then reached out to someone who approached me for a contract role a few months ago.  They were still looking so I signed and quit.  I'll start with them on March 15th and the contract will take me all the way to my FIRE date in Feb 2022.  Leadership was totally floored when I resigned and started panicking over an upcoming big important meeting with the shit client. They wanted me to still attend.  I said nopey nope nope.  If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

I'm excited about the new job.  I get to approach it as mostly fun and temporary.

Good for you, there is no way someone even just halfway to FI should deal with that for more than a month before just moving on. 

"nearly FI", or someone who plans to just work one more year, is practically speaking the same as FI unless there is some golden handcuff situation (a pension starting or something), so you can ditch this new job as well if its not interesting and healthy (i.e. there's no way you can really count on being in better shape to RE in a year than right now, given the market can certainly correct faster than you can earn money at this point, so you're already day to day IMO).  Congrats.

[markbike528CBX]

Good for you @asauer! Enjoy what comes next.

Definitely meets the EPIC FU money story criteria!   Sometimes I wish I had a good story, but tales like yours are a good reason to only experience FU Money vicariously.
Awesome move!

[Much Fishing to Do]

If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

The last threat/ultimatum of desperate management, "we're going to make you miss these last 2 weeks of pay!" is really just a relieved "oh god, thank you so much!" when you quit for FU reasons

yeah, there's absolutely no way I'd give them the two weeks anyway, you've got another job starting soon, take the time off instead.

[2sk22]

So in my mind I set an April 1 leave date.  We're nearly FI so I have a good runway.  I then reached out to someone who approached me for a contract role a few months ago.  They were still looking so I signed and quit.  I'll start with them on March 15th and the contract will take me all the way to my FIRE date in Feb 2022.  Leadership was totally floored when I resigned and started panicking over an upcoming big important meeting with the shit client. They wanted me to still attend.  I said nopey nope nope.  If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

I'm excited about the new job.  I get to approach it as mostly fun and temporary.

Excellent! Definitely belongs in the hall of fame among these stories!

[alcon835]

Congratulations! What a terrible situation. This is another reminder of the power and importance of FU money. If the situation is good, you don't need it. But if the situation is bad, you have the freedom to walk away and they can't abuse or manipulate you into it anymore.

I get so much enjoyment when people are blown away that someone doesn't need a job. "Yes, I have enough money to live for a very long time without a job, thank you very much. I don't need to cower before you..."

[maisymouser]

Every time I hear one of these truly badass quitting stories, this quote comes to mind...

Seriously, congratulations! I can't imagine being in that position at work, FU money or no.

[ScreamingHeadGuy]

Fuck yes @asauer !

[BlueHouse]

I said nopey nope nope. 

I feel like that should be your motto!  Congrats @asauer

[asauer]

I said nopey nope nope. 

I feel like that should be your motto!  Congrats @asauer

You better believe it! 😆

[asauer]

If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

The last threat/ultimatum of desperate management, "we're going to make you miss these last 2 weeks of pay!" is really just a relieved "oh god, thank you so much!" when you quit for FU reasons

Exactly.  FI means never having to grovel.

[BlueHouse]

I don't think I ever followed up to provide all the gory details of my epic FU money story. 

I did give notice, I'm 5 days away from my last day, and although I've had hundreds of daydreams over the past decade about how it would actually happen, the most epic thing about it (to me) was that it wasn't epic at all.  Funny enough, once I ended up being secure enough in my finances, I didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends".  These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 

Sorry it's not entertaining at all, but it actually feels better to me than anything with drama. 

oh, and to follow up with the previous pot-smoking thing.  Yes, I've told a few people who have asked "what are you gonna do on day1?"  that I'm gonna get high, but they don't believe it (and neither do I).  They just laugh.

[2sk22]

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didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but
...

Hah - its more than 18 months since I quit from a megacorp and, occasionally, there are still times when I start composing emails in my mind about everything that was broken :-)

Getting the company out of your head is a slow process.

[BuffaloStache]

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I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends". These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 
...

If they aren't friends or people you are friendly with, then I think it's fine to cut cold turkey if you feel inclined to. But the "could directly affect my future earnings" statement caught my attention... How? Are you relying on the company to do well to pay you a pension? Or is there some other deferred compensation package you are looking at?

The other aspect to think about here is the entertainment value. It's dark, but sometimes it could give you entertainment/provide even more vindication to hear that the environment still sucks.

[lhamo]

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didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but
...

Hah - its more than 18 months since I quit from a megacorp and, occasionally, there are still times when I start composing emails in my mind about everything that was broken :-)

Getting the company out of your head is a slow process.

It gets easier with time.  I am 5+ years out from my last day at old org.   I got a message out of the blue a couple of weeks ago -- the guy they hired in over my head is leaving and they were wondering if I'd come back.  Took me about 3 seconds to nope out of that one.  My Inner Bag Lady did keep whispering in my ear "but the money!" over the next few hours/days, but I have learned to ignore her.

[asauer]

 Not letting them have any space in my head any more. 

This! I think we never realize how much real estate work and work people take up in our brain until we give the eviction notice.

[Shane]

I don't think I ever followed up to provide all the gory details of my epic FU money story. 

I did give notice, I'm 5 days away from my last day, and although I've had hundreds of daydreams over the past decade about how it would actually happen, the most epic thing about it (to me) was that it wasn't epic at all.  Funny enough, once I ended up being secure enough in my finances, I didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends".  These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 

Sorry it's not entertaining at all, but it actually feels better to me than anything with drama. 

oh, and to follow up with the previous pot-smoking thing.  Yes, I've told a few people who have asked "what are you gonna do on day1?"  that I'm gonna get high, but they don't believe it (and neither do I).  They just laugh.

Are you, for some reason, not able to get high now? Like, does your employer drug test you? Cannabis is legal is D.C., now, right? Since we FIRED, and especially since Covid started, I've been smoking a lot more weed than I ever did while working, mostly because I've got the free time, and fewer responsibilities. It feels like I'm a teenager again.

[mm1970]

totally epic

[Sibley]

I don't think I ever followed up to provide all the gory details of my epic FU money story. 

I did give notice, I'm 5 days away from my last day, and although I've had hundreds of daydreams over the past decade about how it would actually happen, the most epic thing about it (to me) was that it wasn't epic at all.  Funny enough, once I ended up being secure enough in my finances, I didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends".  These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 

Sorry it's not entertaining at all, but it actually feels better to me than anything with drama. 

oh, and to follow up with the previous pot-smoking thing.  Yes, I've told a few people who have asked "what are you gonna do on day1?"  that I'm gonna get high, but they don't believe it (and neither do I).  They just laugh.

Are you, for some reason, not able to get high now? Like, does your employer drug test you? Cannabis is legal is D.C., now, right? Since we FIRED, and especially since Covid started, I've been smoking a lot more weed than I ever did while working, mostly because I've got the free time, and fewer responsibilities. It feels like I'm a teenager again.

There are other reasons someone may choose to not partake in weed. And those reasons are perfectly valid, acceptable, and should be respected.

[RetiredAt63]

I don't think I ever followed up to provide all the gory details of my epic FU money story. 

I did give notice, I'm 5 days away from my last day, and although I've had hundreds of daydreams over the past decade about how it would actually happen, the most epic thing about it (to me) was that it wasn't epic at all.  Funny enough, once I ended up being secure enough in my finances, I didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends".  These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 

Sorry it's not entertaining at all, but it actually feels better to me than anything with drama. 

oh, and to follow up with the previous pot-smoking thing.  Yes, I've told a few people who have asked "what are you gonna do on day1?"  that I'm gonna get high, but they don't believe it (and neither do I).  They just laugh.

Are you, for some reason, not able to get high now? Like, does your employer drug test you? Cannabis is legal is D.C., now, right? Since we FIRED, and especially since Covid started, I've been smoking a lot more weed than I ever did while working, mostly because I've got the free time, and fewer responsibilities. It feels like I'm a teenager again.

There are other reasons someone may choose to not partake in weed. And those reasons are perfectly valid, acceptable, and should be respected.

Some of us don't want the smoke in our lungs.  Some of us just aren't interested.  Just like some of us don't smoke/chew tobacco.  Or drink alcohol.  The opportunity to do something doesn't imply everyone will want to do it.

[Sugaree]

Every time I hear one of these truly badass quitting stories, this quote comes to mind...

Seriously, congratulations! I can't imagine being in that position at work, FU money or no.

I feel this in my soul right now.

[Shane]

I don't think I ever followed up to provide all the gory details of my epic FU money story. 

I did give notice, I'm 5 days away from my last day, and although I've had hundreds of daydreams over the past decade about how it would actually happen, the most epic thing about it (to me) was that it wasn't epic at all.  Funny enough, once I ended up being secure enough in my finances, I didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends".  These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 

Sorry it's not entertaining at all, but it actually feels better to me than anything with drama. 

oh, and to follow up with the previous pot-smoking thing.  Yes, I've told a few people who have asked "what are you gonna do on day1?"  that I'm gonna get high, but they don't believe it (and neither do I).  They just laugh.

Are you, for some reason, not able to get high now? Like, does your employer drug test you? Cannabis is legal is D.C., now, right? Since we FIRED, and especially since Covid started, I've been smoking a lot more weed than I ever did while working, mostly because I've got the free time, and fewer responsibilities. It feels like I'm a teenager again.

There are other reasons someone may choose to not partake in weed. And those reasons are perfectly valid, acceptable, and should be respected.

Some of us don't want the smoke in our lungs.  Some of us just aren't interested.  Just like some of us don't smoke/chew tobacco.  Or drink alcohol.  The opportunity to do something doesn't imply everyone will want to do it.

Of course, there are many possible valid reasons people might choose not to consume cannabis, lol. My only reason for asking was because BH sounded like they wanted to get high, but were not, for some reason...

[RetiredAt63]

I don't think I ever followed up to provide all the gory details of my epic FU money story. 

I did give notice, I'm 5 days away from my last day, and although I've had hundreds of daydreams over the past decade about how it would actually happen, the most epic thing about it (to me) was that it wasn't epic at all.  Funny enough, once I ended up being secure enough in my finances, I didn't need any outrageous exit strategy.  Even now, as I'm thinking "oh, you know what someone should really do in that department"?  I write half an email to start it, then I delete it and say "fuck it...why should I care".  To me, that's the most epic thing of all.  Not letting them have any space in my head any more.  I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends".  These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 

Sorry it's not entertaining at all, but it actually feels better to me than anything with drama. 

oh, and to follow up with the previous pot-smoking thing.  Yes, I've told a few people who have asked "what are you gonna do on day1?"  that I'm gonna get high, but they don't believe it (and neither do I).  They just laugh.

Are you, for some reason, not able to get high now? Like, does your employer drug test you? Cannabis is legal is D.C., now, right? Since we FIRED, and especially since Covid started, I've been smoking a lot more weed than I ever did while working, mostly because I've got the free time, and fewer responsibilities. It feels like I'm a teenager again.

There are other reasons someone may choose to not partake in weed. And those reasons are perfectly valid, acceptable, and should be respected.

Some of us don't want the smoke in our lungs.  Some of us just aren't interested.  Just like some of us don't smoke/chew tobacco.  Or drink alcohol.  The opportunity to do something doesn't imply everyone will want to do it.

Of course, there are many possible valid reasons people might choose not to consume cannabis, lol. My only reason for asking was because BH sounded like they wanted to get high, but were not, for some reason...

Good point.  I know there are lots of times after a stressful event, or a hot day in the garden, I have said "I need a drink".  But not really or maybe yes but not with alcohol.  Or sometimes with alcohol. It all depends.  English is full of these not very definite (definitive?) phrases.    ;-)

[RyanAtTanagra]

What a world we live in now where people feel the need to defend their lack of pot use.

[gaja]

I'm not using FU money at the current time, but I am spending some of my hard earned human capital. The second to the top boss is not doing a good job, and it is influencing my opportunity to do mine. So I am currently causing some noise within the organization, both through the top boss, and through the HSA/union. Will be very interesting to see how this turns out. I'm quite hard to fire, so I doubt it has any large consequences. Might influence an upcoming promotion, might get some more backlash in my everyday work. If it gets too bad, I can get a new job in a few days, or take some months off and do nothing.

[frugalecon]

I posted over in Bad Assity...

So in my mind I set an April 1 leave date.  We're nearly FI so I have a good runway.  I then reached out to someone who approached me for a contract role a few months ago.  They were still looking so I signed and quit.  I'll start with them on March 15th and the contract will take me all the way to my FIRE date in Feb 2022.  Leadership was totally floored when I resigned and started panicking over an upcoming big important meeting with the shit client. They wanted me to still attend.  I said nopey nope nope.  If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

I'm excited about the new job.  I get to approach it as mostly fun and temporary.

Reading this post, I thought how awesome it would be to print up t-shirts that read: “Nopey Nope Nope” and start wearing them to work in the week or so before giving notice. Or heck, once you get to FI and just want to mess with people. When someone asked you to do something unreasonable, could just point to the shirt.

Sorry, I am having a shit week at work, so this is making me fantasize about what could be very soon...

[frugalecon]

I posted over in Bad Assity...

So in my mind I set an April 1 leave date.  We're nearly FI so I have a good runway.  I then reached out to someone who approached me for a contract role a few months ago.  They were still looking so I signed and quit.  I'll start with them on March 15th and the contract will take me all the way to my FIRE date in Feb 2022.  Leadership was totally floored when I resigned and started panicking over an upcoming big important meeting with the shit client. They wanted me to still attend.  I said nopey nope nope.  If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

I'm excited about the new job.  I get to approach it as mostly fun and temporary.

Reading this post, I thought how awesome it would be to print up t-shirts that read: “Nopey Nope Nope” and start wearing them to work in the week or so before giving notice. Or heck, once you get to FI and just want to mess with people. When someone asked you to do something unreasonable, could just point to the shirt.

Sorry, I am having a shit week at work, so this is making me fantasize about what could be very soon...

Sorry, another thought. On the back of the T-shirt, it could read “What Part of ‘Nopey Nope Nope’ Don’t You Understand?” People could then ponder that while you are walking away from them.

[Sandi_k]

If I do something like Nopey Nope, it would be to get t-shirts made with this graphic:

[GreenToTheCore]

heh heh, I keep thinking about the Nope cards in the game Exploding Kittens. My favorite is the Narnope.

[BlueHouse]

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I still have people that call me on weekends (WEEKENDS) to vent about work problems.  I know it will eventually taper off, but should I just cut it off cold turkey?  These aren't "friends". These are people who have and could directly affect my past and future earnings. 
...

If they aren't friends or people you are friendly with, then I think it's fine to cut cold turkey if you feel inclined to. But the "could directly affect my future earnings" statement caught my attention... How? Are you relying on the company to do well to pay you a pension? Or is there some other deferred compensation package you are looking at?

The other aspect to think about here is the entertainment value. It's dark, but sometimes it could give you entertainment/provide even more vindication to hear that the environment still sucks.

"Future Earnings"  Just in case I ever decide I need to work there again.  If I'm secure enough in my FI, then no...they really can't affect any future earnings.  Thanks for the reminder of that.  (YAY!)

[BlueHouse]

Are you, for some reason, not able to get high now? Like, does your employer drug test you? Cannabis is legal is D.C., now, right? Since we FIRED, and especially since Covid started, I've been smoking a lot more weed than I ever did while working, mostly because I've got the free time, and fewer responsibilities. It feels like I'm a teenager again.

I hold a clearance. 

There are other reasons someone may choose to not partake in weed. And those reasons are perfectly valid, acceptable, and should be respected.

I kind of want to partake, but I haven't always liked the feeling in the past.  If it will help make me mellower, then I'm all for it.  If there are some healing properties that I can use for anti-inflammation, I'll go there. 

Some of us don't want the smoke in our lungs.  Some of us just aren't interested.  Just like some of us don't smoke/chew tobacco.  Or drink alcohol.  The opportunity to do something doesn't imply everyone will want to do it.

I'm a former smoker, and I would loooooooovvvve to inhale again, but I won't because I'm afraid it would lead me back to cigarettes.  So if I do decide to partake, I will probably go with edibles of some sort. 

[BlueHouse]

heh heh, I keep thinking about the Nope cards in the game Exploding Kittens. My favorite is the Narnope.

I may try to find this game, just so I can carry these cards around in my pocket and distribute freely.

[Abe Froman]

heh heh, I keep thinking about the Nope cards in the game Exploding Kittens. My favorite is the Narnope.

I may try to find this game, just so I can carry these cards around in my pocket and distribute freely.

Our family LOVES this game. And it just got NUTS for us as we just included the expansion packs.
Matt Inman's comics are funny as hell - because it mixes a little vulgar humor with true knowledge and intelligence. Probably why The Simpsons writers have done so well for so long.

[RetiredAt63]

I'm a former smoker, and I would loooooooovvvve to inhale again, but I won't because I'm afraid it would lead me back to cigarettes.  So if I do decide to partake, I will probably go with edibles of some sort.

I always thought tobacco was the "gateway drug", not pot.  If you can smoke cigarettes you can smoke anything.   ;-)

[BlueHouse]

I'm a former smoker, and I would loooooooovvvve to inhale again, but I won't because I'm afraid it would lead me back to cigarettes.  So if I do decide to partake, I will probably go with edibles of some sort.

I always thought tobacco was the "gateway drug", not pot.  If you can smoke cigarettes you can smoke anything.   ;-)

haha  yeah.  But the feeling of inhaling deeply was also addicting.  I do not ever want to do that again (other than for fresh clean air) because I cannot be trusted not to jump back to cigs.  God they're just awful.  It's been over 20 years since I quit and I still fear the hold they had on me.

[Alternatepriorities]

I'm a former smoker, and I would loooooooovvvve to inhale again, but I won't because I'm afraid it would lead me back to cigarettes.  So if I do decide to partake, I will probably go with edibles of some sort.

I always thought tobacco was the "gateway drug", not pot.  If you can smoke cigarettes you can smoke anything.   ;-)

haha  yeah.  But the feeling of inhaling deeply was also addicting.  I do not ever want to do that again (other than for fresh clean air) because I cannot be trusted not to jump back to cigs.  God they're just awful.  It's been over 20 years since I quit and I still fear the hold they had on me.

Congratulations on quitting. My father has never been able to despite walking away from Alcohol and a couple of "harder" drugs cold turkey more that 35 years ago... He's tried numerous times to quit smoking and even managed for a few days at a time, but it never sticks. Probably the primary reason I've never had any interest in smoking anything...

[AO1FireTo]

I'm a former smoker, and I would loooooooovvvve to inhale again, but I won't because I'm afraid it would lead me back to cigarettes.  So if I do decide to partake, I will probably go with edibles of some sort.

I always thought tobacco was the "gateway drug", not pot.  If you can smoke cigarettes you can smoke anything.   ;-)

haha  yeah.  But the feeling of inhaling deeply was also addicting.  I do not ever want to do that again (other than for fresh clean air) because I cannot be trusted not to jump back to cigs.  God they're just awful.  It's been over 20 years since I quit and I still fear the hold they had on me.

Congratulations on quitting. My father has never been able to despite walking away from Alcohol and a couple of "harder" drugs cold turkey more that 35 years ago... He's tried numerous times to quit smoking and even managed for a few days at a time, but it never sticks. Probably the primary reason I've never had any interest in smoking anything...

Seeing my grandfather die from emphysema when I was a kid killed any desire I had to smoke.  He couldn't even walk across the room without stopping to catch his breath.  He made me promise to never smoke, and I'm so glad I kept that promise.

[former player]

I'm a former smoker, and I would loooooooovvvve to inhale again, but I won't because I'm afraid it would lead me back to cigarettes.  So if I do decide to partake, I will probably go with edibles of some sort.

I always thought tobacco was the "gateway drug", not pot.  If you can smoke cigarettes you can smoke anything.   ;-)

haha  yeah.  But the feeling of inhaling deeply was also addicting.  I do not ever want to do that again (other than for fresh clean air) because I cannot be trusted not to jump back to cigs.  God they're just awful.  It's been over 20 years since I quit and I still fear the hold they had on me.

Congratulations on quitting. My father has never been able to despite walking away from Alcohol and a couple of "harder" drugs cold turkey more that 35 years ago... He's tried numerous times to quit smoking and even managed for a few days at a time, but it never sticks. Probably the primary reason I've never had any interest in smoking anything...

Seeing my grandfather die from emphysema when I was a kid killed any desire I had to smoke.  He couldn't even walk across the room without stopping to catch his breath.  He made me promise to never smoke, and I'm so glad I kept that promise.

I have a good friend whose son has been dealing (and mostly failing) with cannabis-induced psychosis for the last 20 years.  I'd never touch cannabis even without the smoking hazard. 

[asauer]

I posted over in Bad Assity...

So in my mind I set an April 1 leave date.  We're nearly FI so I have a good runway.  I then reached out to someone who approached me for a contract role a few months ago.  They were still looking so I signed and quit.  I'll start with them on March 15th and the contract will take me all the way to my FIRE date in Feb 2022.  Leadership was totally floored when I resigned and started panicking over an upcoming big important meeting with the shit client. They wanted me to still attend.  I said nopey nope nope.  If they want to cut my notice short, fine with me.

I'm excited about the new job.  I get to approach it as mostly fun and temporary.

This is a fabulous idea!

Reading this post, I thought how awesome it would be to print up t-shirts that read: “Nopey Nope Nope” and start wearing them to work in the week or so before giving notice. Or heck, once you get to FI and just want to mess with people. When someone asked you to do something unreasonable, could just point to the shirt.

Sorry, I am having a shit week at work, so this is making me fantasize about what could be very soon...

[Shane]

I have a good friend whose son has been dealing (and mostly failing) with cannabis-induced psychosis for the last 20 years.  I'd never touch cannabis even without the smoking hazard.

Cannabis doesn't 'induce psychosis." People who are psychotic sometimes self-medicate with all kinds of things, including cannabis, but that's not what causes their psychosis. The (often heavy) cannabis use is more a symptom of their underlying mental problems.

[GreenToTheCore]

I may try to find this game, just so I can carry these cards around in my pocket and distribute freely.

Our family LOVES this game. And it just got NUTS for us as we just included the expansion packs.
Matt Inman's comics are funny as hell - because it mixes a little vulgar humor with true knowledge and intelligence. Probably why The Simpsons writers have done so well for so long.

Agreed, it has become a friend favorite. Poetry for Neanderthals was a good one with the whole family, young nephew included.

[former player]

I have a good friend whose son has been dealing (and mostly failing) with cannabis-induced psychosis for the last 20 years.  I'd never touch cannabis even without the smoking hazard.

Cannabis doesn't 'induce psychosis." People who are psychotic sometimes self-medicate with all kinds of things, including cannabis, but that's not what causes their psychosis. The (often heavy) cannabis use is more a symptom of their underlying mental problems.

Hard to tell the difference if someone goes from functioning and sane to non-functioning and insane immediately after a heavy bout of smoking though, right?