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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1850 on: September 30, 2017, 08:15:22 AM »
You don't Derail a Thread, you Unravel It (right?!)
Why not both?

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1851 on: September 30, 2017, 10:26:22 AM »
@ RWD : So many bonus points if you did that yourself, just to prove a point.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1852 on: September 30, 2017, 10:31:46 AM »
Enough of derailing.

Can we please get back to FU stories?

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1853 on: September 30, 2017, 11:19:52 AM »
@ RWD : So many bonus points if you did that yourself, just to prove a point.
I just did a Google image search. Not much creativity required.


Enough of derailing.

Can we please get back to FU stories?
Sorry...

The closest things I've got to FU money stories is with some project flexibility. In one of my early years of employment I was assigned a crappy project for a product I was otherwise not associated with. There was a lot of miscommunication over who was supposed to take responsibility for different parts of the project. Turns out they wanted me to do all the documentation in addition to the coding, even though I wasn't familiar with the product at all. My efforts were met with complaints and criticism from multiple people involved with the product, but no one ever stepped in to actually help. I then I found out that this was essentially a lifetime project... They wanted me to do updates periodically even though I had written up all the documentation such that anyone (preferably someone familiar with the product) could maintain it. Well that went on for several years, but eventually I had a talk with my boss and convinced him that the project could be done much better by someone else and it would be more efficient for the company all around. Afterward I was much happier (and less likely to be fired for my attitude), all because I was willing to stand up and suggest an alternative to my boss's directive.

More recently instead of waiting to be assigned a project I just started my own pet project and have been including it in my status report. No one has complained yet that I'm almost becoming my own boss. I've never been happier at my job, which is kind of ironic since I've been so focused recently on obtaining early retirement.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1854 on: September 30, 2017, 11:57:48 AM »
A guy in my company was working his last day in the office. I have to say he was kind of "managed out the door", so he could give a crap about consequences. He set up a rule in Microsoft Outlook - to block any incoming emails with @thecompany.com in the address, if you get my meaning. It was a very quiet last day, and he had made "bank" already.

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« Reply #1855 on: September 30, 2017, 02:15:30 PM »
A guy in my company was working his last day in the office. I have to say he was kind of "managed out the door", so he could give a crap about consequences. He set up a rule in Microsoft Outlook - to block any incoming emails with @thecompany.com in the address, if you get my meaning. It was a very quiet last day, and he had made "bank" already.

Hmm, no wonder he was managed out the door.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1856 on: September 30, 2017, 04:49:33 PM »
More recently instead of waiting to be assigned a project I just started my own pet project and have been including it in my status report. No one has complained yet that I'm almost becoming my own boss. I've never been happier at my job, which is kind of ironic since I've been so focused recently on obtaining early retirement.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1857 on: September 30, 2017, 08:54:52 PM »
More recently instead of waiting to be assigned a project I just started my own pet project and have been including it in my status report. No one has complained yet that I'm almost becoming my own boss. I've never been happier at my job, which is kind of ironic since I've been so focused recently on obtaining early retirement.

That's awesome.

Thanks. I had pitched the project before and the general consensus was "yep, that would be a good thing to do some day in the future," but no one officially authorized me to start working on it. Probably because it's a huge project that I expect will take six months to a year to complete and there are always smaller tasks that have been given priority.

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« Reply #1858 on: September 30, 2017, 10:37:24 PM »
I recently took a six-month leave of absence from work due to the current work situation being weird and terrible, and wanting to spend more time with my grandfather as he gets older. The first FU was telling HR that I was taking the unpaid leave option. "You're aware that it's unpaid leave ..."

The second FU was a temporary job that I'd applied for before I decided to make the jump. They invited me in for an interview. The email chain went sort of like this:

"Sorry, I'm not looking for full-time work anymore; family commitments."
"How many days a week are you looking to work?"
"Uh... three, I guess?"
"Come in and we'll interview you anyway."

At the interview itself, they had two placements for someone 3 days / week. Now I'm waiting to see if I've made the cut for one of those. Just gobsmacked that I could get a pretty good job changed to part-time by turning it down.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1859 on: October 02, 2017, 10:44:42 AM »
My financial status is known generally, but not the details.  One of my coworkers is switching projects, his current job is a key position, but it's mostly in the background, so there's not as much recognition.  I have commended him in the past in front of others that his work doesn't seem like it would be enjoyable, but he's always happy to do it.  It's obvious I didn't want to do it.  When they looked for someone to take on his work, they didn't even ask me even though it would fit well with what I'm already doing.  #smallvictories

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1860 on: October 05, 2017, 10:16:11 AM »
That was why I was so annoyed last week...I have been busting my tail off to get prepared for this audit because we didn't know when they would show up (they give you a three month time frame but no specific dates...they just show up) and she is acting like a damn fool over an Outlook calendar entry. On a funnier note, the auditor I worked with today was complaining that he didn't get lunch yesterday...guess who was responsible for ordering food?

I'm an auditor, and I deal with external auditors as well. Escalate this. Seriously. If you promise me food, and don't provide it, you make me crabby. Trust me, you do NOT want to make your auditor crabby. I can make your life so much harder. I can decide to write the finding when it could go either way. There can be serious consequences to pissing off your auditors, and you do not know these people. This one person could significantly hurt the company by pulling those types of stunts.

One of our problems in this world: People can be petty.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1861 on: October 06, 2017, 10:32:02 AM »
I have a sad lack-of-FU-money story. I ran into a coworker at a break area who's being denied a PTO request for the days between Xmas and NYE because she's "needed here". Her request was to fly home to Mexico to visit her elderly father and commemorate the anniversary of her mother's death. :-(

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« Reply #1862 on: October 06, 2017, 10:46:23 AM »
I have a sad lack-of-FU-money story. I ran into a coworker at a break area who's being denied a PTO request for the days between Xmas and NYE because she's "needed here". Her request was to fly home to Mexico to visit her elderly father and commemorate the anniversary of her mother's death. :-(

Please keep these stories to other threads. I come here for a pick-me-up.

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« Reply #1863 on: October 06, 2017, 10:49:16 AM »
OK back to the topic! Has anyone ever just up and left a job with no FU money? Just enough to maybe get them thru for a little while in the hopes of getting something better?

 In my early 20's when I was first starting out after college, I did this quite a bit. It was the early 90's and unless you were in accounting, finance, or engineering, then corporate jobs were hard to come by. What was left were a lot of dregs with bad bosses, people mills, etc. When I had enough and realized that I needed more time to focus on getting a better job, I would make sure that I very quietly and confidentially lined up people to cover my work load, document all notes and follow up items still to do, etc so that they were not left in the lurch, and rather than giving notice so that I still had to work for and with people I could not stand, I would just type up a note "I Quit"and leave in the middle of my bosses desk on a Sunday so that he would see it first thing Monday. So I would go in the weekend before, clean out my desk, wrap up anything left undone, and leave clean. I did this probably 3 times and it gave me an incredible sense of control. I would then use the down time to look for a better job and than found those jobs pretty quickly.

Now as a grown up now in the corporate world, I have always been seen as a top performer/top 10% hi-po, etc and when I've had enough a couple times, my bosses would not accept my resignation, asking "what do you want, will give you more money, we'll let you work from home, we'll let you switch jobs, etc. I have had to employ the same routine where I confidentially work with people i trust in advance of my defined exit date to hand off work, document notes and follow up. I then go in the weekend before, clean out my office, leave a nice hand written note as well as an e-mail that outlines that I resign, thank you for everything....etc., leave my bade and laptop, then I'm done. Difference in the corporate world is that i did always line up a new job outside before I did this and have stash vs my 20's where I was completely broke.

My next time, I don't anticipating having another gig lined up. I am close to being completely done, for now at least.

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« Reply #1864 on: October 06, 2017, 10:59:27 AM »
I have a sad lack-of-FU-money story. I ran into a coworker at a break area who's being denied a PTO request for the days between Xmas and NYE because she's "needed here". Her request was to fly home to Mexico to visit her elderly father and commemorate the anniversary of her mother's death. :-(

That's sad, one of the subtlest results of having FU money that I didn't even realize I started doing was I stopped asking for things, and just started doing them or telling them I was going to do it, assuming it was kosher.  People at work ask me all the time 'how did you get them to agree to X?'.  'Uh, I never asked, I just did it and they never said anything'.  At which point they look at me like I'm a wackadoo.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1865 on: October 06, 2017, 11:22:06 AM »
I have a sad lack-of-FU-money story. I ran into a coworker at a break area who's being denied a PTO request for the days between Xmas and NYE because she's "needed here". Her request was to fly home to Mexico to visit her elderly father and commemorate the anniversary of her mother's death. :-(

That's sad, one of the subtlest results of having FU money that I didn't even realize I started doing was I stopped asking for things, and just started doing them or telling them I was going to do it, assuming it was kosher.  People at work ask me all the time 'how did you get them to agree to X?'.  'Uh, I never asked, I just did it and they never said anything'.  At which point they look at me like I'm a wackadoo.
I've gotten so used to telling rather than asking at work that I kind of did it to my wife yesterday.  "I'm going on a trip to meet up with my old friends at the end of March" <Pause> "Whoops - what I meant to say is 'I'm thinking about going on a trip at the end of March to meet up with my old friends.  What do you think about that?'"

Maenad - did you suggest CW rephrase the request to not be a question.  "I'm going to be out of the country XX to YY" might elicit a different response.  Of course, the consequences might be worse since employer already heard the question and denied it, but there's always the "elderly father / anniversary of mother's death" card to play.  "Are you really going to fire me over visiting my elderly father?  I don't know how much time he has left . . . "  There's also the option of CW developing a bad cold at the end of December.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1866 on: October 06, 2017, 03:30:50 PM »
Maenad - did you suggest CW rephrase the request to not be a question.  "I'm going to be out of the country XX to YY" might elicit a different response.

I did tell her, "I think your flight home may be cancelled and you'll need to catch another one a couple of days later." ;-) She thought about it, and then mentioned that she already had a meeting scheduled with HR.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1867 on: October 07, 2017, 04:36:22 PM »
OK back to the topic! Has anyone ever just up and left a job with no FU money? Just enough to maybe get them thru for a little while in the hopes of getting something better?

 In my early 20's when I was first starting out after college, I did this quite a bit. It was the early 90's and unless you were in accounting, finance, or engineering, then corporate jobs were hard to come by. What was left were a lot of dregs with bad bosses, people mills, etc. When I had enough and realized that I needed more time to focus on getting a better job, I would make sure that I very quietly and confidentially lined up people to cover my work load, document all notes and follow up items still to do, etc so that they were not left in the lurch, and rather than giving notice so that I still had to work for and with people I could not stand, I would just type up a note "I Quit"and leave in the middle of my bosses desk on a Sunday so that he would see it first thing Monday. So I would go in the weekend before, clean out my desk, wrap up anything left undone, and leave clean. I did this probably 3 times and it gave me an incredible sense of control. I would then use the down time to look for a better job and than found those jobs pretty quickly.

Now as a grown up now in the corporate world, I have always been seen as a top performer/top 10% hi-po, etc and when I've had enough a couple times, my bosses would not accept my resignation, asking "what do you want, will give you more money, we'll let you work from home, we'll let you switch jobs, etc. I have had to employ the same routine where I confidentially work with people i trust in advance of my defined exit date to hand off work, document notes and follow up. I then go in the weekend before, clean out my office, leave a nice hand written note as well as an e-mail that outlines that I resign, thank you for everything....etc., leave my bade and laptop, then I'm done. Difference in the corporate world is that i did always line up a new job outside before I did this and have stash vs my 20's where I was completely broke.

My next time, I don't anticipating having another gig lined up. I am close to being completely done, for now at least.

Yep, in my mid 20's I had a job in a call centre that I detested, I had no money at the time, maybe $500 in the bank if that, I got offered a part-time job at a friend's small business paying less but enough to get by and I thought I could go back to uni part-time to finish my last semester of uni a month later so I told my team leader I was giving them one weeks notice, he sent me to the manager, I told them the same, the manager said that I had to give 4 weeks notice as per my contract, I said I can only give you 1 weeks notice, they said no, I said ok, let me reconsider, that was a Friday, I told my team leader and colleagues I wasn't coming back the next week and I didn't, the manager tried to call me the following week but I didn't answer my phone and that was that.

 They should have just accepted my 1 weeks notice. Now that I'm older and wiser I wish I had insisted on the 1 weeks notice and left it at that.


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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1868 on: October 07, 2017, 05:33:07 PM »
Someone asked for a Lack-of-FU-Money story.

I went to work at a new company some years ago.   I was there about a week when I received an email from the DBA on a different project.  It had been blind-copied to everyone in the office and had been sent to his project manager.   Let's just say he had nothing nice to say to the project manager.

Since I didn't know any of these people, I just kept quiet and observed.

A few months later the project manager took away the DBA's database privileges.   For non IT folks, that's the equivalent of taking away a truck driver's keys.   He's not going to be doing anything useful for the project under those circumstances.

A few days later, someone noticed that his office was empty (i.e, no person or belongings in it).  A hand-written note had been taped to the door that simply said "Gone!!!"   

No notice, no email to HR, nothing.  Just "Gone!!!".

After 3 days he was considered to have abandoned his position and his job was ended.

A couple of days after payday, about 2 weeks later, he showed up at the office hoping to get his job back.   He didn't.

But the story gets better.

A couple of months go by and I'm told that same project manager is not threatening to turn in the company to the Feds and claim "Fraud, waste and abuse" because the project has been mismanaged.

I think to myself, "But isn't he the project manager who would be responsible for said mismanagement?  Surely he's not really planning to do that..."

A couple of weeks go by and I have to go over and ask him something.  I step behind his desk to see the screen he wants to show me and I notice that his web browser on his 2nd monitor is on the federal fraud, waste and abuse website...

"Okey, dokey.  He really is that stupid!"

Some time passes and the fellow is let go.

But it gets better.

Both of them have taken contracts to work in Iraq because they (a) can get a job and (b) it pays really well.  They are stuck in the same 2 person shack in the desert working together...

We all laughed our asses off when we found that out.

Karma!!!!

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1869 on: October 07, 2017, 06:23:31 PM »
Someone asked for a Lack-of-FU-Money story.

I went to work at a new company some years ago.   I was there about a week when I received an email from the DBA on a different project.  It had been blind-copied to everyone in the office and had been sent to his project manager.   Let's just say he had nothing nice to say to the project manager.

Since I didn't know any of these people, I just kept quiet and observed.

A few months later the project manager took away the DBA's database privileges.   For non IT folks, that's the equivalent of taking away a truck driver's keys.   He's not going to be doing anything useful for the project under those circumstances.

A few days later, someone noticed that his office was empty (i.e, no person or belongings in it).  A hand-written note had been taped to the door that simply said "Gone!!!"   

No notice, no email to HR, nothing.  Just "Gone!!!".

After 3 days he was considered to have abandoned his position and his job was ended.

A couple of days after payday, about 2 weeks later, he showed up at the office hoping to get his job back.   He didn't.

But the story gets better.

A couple of months go by and I'm told that same project manager is not threatening to turn in the company to the Feds and claim "Fraud, waste and abuse" because the project has been mismanaged.

I think to myself, "But isn't he the project manager who would be responsible for said mismanagement?  Surely he's not really planning to do that..."

A couple of weeks go by and I have to go over and ask him something.  I step behind his desk to see the screen he wants to show me and I notice that his web browser on his 2nd monitor is on the federal fraud, waste and abuse website...

"Okey, dokey.  He really is that stupid!"

Some time passes and the fellow is let go.

But it gets better.

Both of them have taken contracts to work in Iraq because they (a) can get a job and (b) it pays really well.  They are stuck in the same 2 person shack in the desert working together...

We all laughed our asses off when we found that out.

Karma!!!!

Is it just me, or are IT folk generally egomaniacal, socially maladjusted drama queens who make every one else's life as difficult as possible???

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1870 on: October 07, 2017, 06:26:48 PM »
Someone asked for a Lack-of-FU-Money story.

I went to work at a new company some years ago.   I was there about a week when I received an email from the DBA on a different project.  It had been blind-copied to everyone in the office and had been sent to his project manager.   Let's just say he had nothing nice to say to the project manager.

Since I didn't know any of these people, I just kept quiet and observed.

A few months later the project manager took away the DBA's database privileges.   For non IT folks, that's the equivalent of taking away a truck driver's keys.   He's not going to be doing anything useful for the project under those circumstances.

A few days later, someone noticed that his office was empty (i.e, no person or belongings in it).  A hand-written note had been taped to the door that simply said "Gone!!!"   

No notice, no email to HR, nothing.  Just "Gone!!!".

After 3 days he was considered to have abandoned his position and his job was ended.

A couple of days after payday, about 2 weeks later, he showed up at the office hoping to get his job back.   He didn't.

But the story gets better.

A couple of months go by and I'm told that same project manager is not threatening to turn in the company to the Feds and claim "Fraud, waste and abuse" because the project has been mismanaged.

I think to myself, "But isn't he the project manager who would be responsible for said mismanagement?  Surely he's not really planning to do that..."

A couple of weeks go by and I have to go over and ask him something.  I step behind his desk to see the screen he wants to show me and I notice that his web browser on his 2nd monitor is on the federal fraud, waste and abuse website...

"Okey, dokey.  He really is that stupid!"

Some time passes and the fellow is let go.

But it gets better.

Both of them have taken contracts to work in Iraq because they (a) can get a job and (b) it pays really well.  They are stuck in the same 2 person shack in the desert working together...

We all laughed our asses off when we found that out.

Karma!!!!

Is it just me, or are IT folk generally egomaniacal, socially maladjusted drama queens who make every one else's life as difficult as possible???

Nope.  But perhaps I was just unlucky.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1871 on: October 07, 2017, 06:31:46 PM »
Someone asked for a Lack-of-FU-Money story.

I went to work at a new company some years ago.   I was there about a week when I received an email from the DBA on a different project.  It had been blind-copied to everyone in the office and had been sent to his project manager.   Let's just say he had nothing nice to say to the project manager.

Since I didn't know any of these people, I just kept quiet and observed.

A few months later the project manager took away the DBA's database privileges.   For non IT folks, that's the equivalent of taking away a truck driver's keys.   He's not going to be doing anything useful for the project under those circumstances.

A few days later, someone noticed that his office was empty (i.e, no person or belongings in it).  A hand-written note had been taped to the door that simply said "Gone!!!"   

No notice, no email to HR, nothing.  Just "Gone!!!".

After 3 days he was considered to have abandoned his position and his job was ended.

A couple of days after payday, about 2 weeks later, he showed up at the office hoping to get his job back.   He didn't.

But the story gets better.

A couple of months go by and I'm told that same project manager is not threatening to turn in the company to the Feds and claim "Fraud, waste and abuse" because the project has been mismanaged.

I think to myself, "But isn't he the project manager who would be responsible for said mismanagement?  Surely he's not really planning to do that..."

A couple of weeks go by and I have to go over and ask him something.  I step behind his desk to see the screen he wants to show me and I notice that his web browser on his 2nd monitor is on the federal fraud, waste and abuse website...

"Okey, dokey.  He really is that stupid!"

Some time passes and the fellow is let go.

But it gets better.

Both of them have taken contracts to work in Iraq because they (a) can get a job and (b) it pays really well.  They are stuck in the same 2 person shack in the desert working together...

We all laughed our asses off when we found that out.

Karma!!!!

Is it just me, or are IT folk generally egomaniacal, socially maladjusted drama queens who make every one else's life as difficult as possible???

Nope.  But perhaps I was just unlucky.

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!

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« Reply #1872 on: October 07, 2017, 08:53:23 PM »
Is it just me, or are IT folk generally egomaniacal, socially maladjusted drama queens who make every one else's life as difficult as possible???

Does everyone not in IT think computers are magic and when things go wrong the IT people can just wave their magic wands and immediately fix whatever is wrong and the reason they don't make it magically better right away must definitely be out of spite and hatred of others?

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1873 on: October 07, 2017, 10:07:54 PM »
Is it just me, or are IT folk generally egomaniacal, socially maladjusted drama queens who make every one else's life as difficult as possible???
Yes, that's us. In our spare time, we also love pointing out everyone else's spelling mistakes to give them a chance to better themselves. These selfless qualities are why we are the Chosen Ones.

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« Reply #1874 on: October 07, 2017, 10:32:57 PM »
Is it just me, or are IT folk generally egomaniacal, socially maladjusted drama queens who make every one else's life as difficult as possible???

Does everyone not in IT think computers are magic and when things go wrong the IT people can just wave their magic wands and immediately fix whatever is wrong and the reason they don't make it magically better right away must definitely be out of spite and hatred of others?

No, but IT folk seem to think that everyone not It folk is a complete digital moron who will buy a dumb excuse because they don't feel like staying after 5pm sharp.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1875 on: October 07, 2017, 10:42:14 PM »
I have a sad lack-of-FU-money story. I ran into a coworker at a break area who's being denied a PTO request for the days between Xmas and NYE because she's "needed here". Her request was to fly home to Mexico to visit her elderly father and commemorate the anniversary of her mother's death. :-(

I was denied a request to attend my grandmother's funeral. As a 23 year old with no FU money, I quietly accepted my fate. One of the worst life decisions I made. I should've just bought the ticket and left work.

I eventually started "telling" rather than "asking," as others mentioned.

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« Reply #1876 on: October 08, 2017, 06:40:09 AM »
Is it just me, or are IT folk generally egomaniacal, socially maladjusted drama queens who make every one else's life as difficult as possible???

Does everyone not in IT think computers are magic and when things go wrong the IT people can just wave their magic wands and immediately fix whatever is wrong and the reason they don't make it magically better right away must definitely be out of spite and hatred of others?

No, but IT folk seem to think that everyone not It folk is a complete digital moron who will buy a dumb excuse because they don't feel like staying after 5pm sharp.
I think it comes from too many experiences with users who *are* complete digital morons, users who lie ("of course I restarted my computer!"), and users who are abusive (seen in a customer's email just this week: "I hope you're fired!").  It might also come from the ability to fix things with a few keystrokes when all is going haywire around you.  It strokes the ego a bit :)

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« Reply #1877 on: October 08, 2017, 09:43:59 PM »
A lot of people have had some pretty terrible experience with IT people...I'm going to go out on a limb and say you either work for shitty companies, have shitty IT departments, or don't have a job function that's critical enough to merit a response that you deem satisfactory.

I'm on call 24x7 and technically work in IT.  I also don't work on a help desk...

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« Reply #1878 on: October 08, 2017, 10:28:07 PM »
A lot of people have had some pretty terrible experience with IT people...I'm going to go out on a limb and say you either work for shitty companies, have shitty IT departments, or don't have a job function that's critical enough to merit a response that you deem satisfactory.

I'm on call 24x7 and technically work in IT.  I also don't work on a help desk...

Well, we're talking government departments, essentially, even though we're hospitals..... so I'm gonna go with shitty company. With a shitty IT department that's really trying to adapt the hospital processes to the way IT wants to work instead of the other way around. Thank God our mediquip techs and diagnostic equip techs are extraordinary. They GET the fact they work in a hospital. IT doesn't.

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« Reply #1879 on: October 09, 2017, 07:16:28 AM »
A lot of people have had some pretty terrible experience with IT people...I'm going to go out on a limb and say you either work for shitty companies, have shitty IT departments, or don't have a job function that's critical enough to merit a response that you deem satisfactory.

I'm on call 24x7 and technically work in IT.  I also don't work on a help desk...

Sometimes it's shitty process that has been stuck to things it shouldn't be. For example, the cloud-based software I deal with requires a 2-week process to get any changes done in the IT department, despite there being no downtime or any difficulty in undoing changes. I don't work in the IT department so I just ignore that process because it's stupid. However, it does mean that anything I need from IT takes forever and a half to get done. We requested a couple of email boxes 2 weeks ago and they were finally created today.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1880 on: October 09, 2017, 07:49:17 AM »
Please, can we get back to FU stories?

Create a new thread if you wish to complain about IT.

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« Reply #1881 on: October 09, 2017, 08:34:50 AM »
Please, can we get back to FU stories?

Create a new thread if you wish to complain about IT.
Here's a minor one.  Wife used to work for the legislature here.  She planned a trip with a friend, and was approved for this trip, leaving the day after the session was supposed to end.  Less than a week before the end of session, they decided to extend it because in spite of the same party controlling the entire legislature, they couldn't get a couple of things done on time.  There was time at the beginning of session for them to do a bunch of BS like "follies" and other "partying like its 1959" type of activities though.  Supposed to be an all hands situation, but wife went on the trip anyway.

Now, she doesn't like to even keep an eye on the money, so I really had to push her to realize we have FU money.  She also really freaks out about work stuff.  "Just go - we have lots of money and you're quitting this summer anyway to go back to school, worst they can do is give you a couple extra months of vacation."

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« Reply #1882 on: October 09, 2017, 10:30:36 AM »
This is along the lines of FU Money leading me to tell, not ask. I used to be so terrified of losing my crappy temp jobs or doing the slightest thing wrong that when my grandfather passed over a weekend, I wanted to wait until Monday to ask if I could take time off to go down for the funeral.

Now I set my own hours to a certain extent, which I've never received official permission for. I just started showing up later and waited until somebody mentioned it. Nobody has.

I used to wear sneakers on the subway and change into flats at work. Then I started keeping my sneakers on at my desk and only changing into flats for meetings. Now I wear sneakers all day, every day. I've noticed people looking at my feet, but what are they going to do? Fire me?

The biggest change is mindset. I no longer obsess about getting the highest performance rating or making sure my bosses think I'm perfect. I don't stay late, I don't work through lunch, and I refuse last-minute work requests made on Friday afternoons. What are they gonna do? Fire me?

Unfortunately, I had to be very close to FI before realizing my position of strength and capitalizing on it. I had FU money for a long time before I started acting like it. This was largely because I don't have a BA and thought I wouldn't be able to find anything else. What I didn't realize was how high my performance was compared to the average employee. I could cut waaay back on the stress and still do well. By being less stressed out, I ended up networking more effectively without even trying.

Now I'm about to quit my cushy, stable job with nothing lined up so I can go a-wandering!

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« Reply #1883 on: October 09, 2017, 11:21:53 AM »
^This. Great example of epic, MJ. I'm now in the same boat and it feels so good.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1884 on: October 09, 2017, 11:43:58 AM »
"partying like its 1959" type of activities
I'm intrigued.  How exactly did folks party in 1959?

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« Reply #1885 on: October 09, 2017, 11:50:47 AM »
"partying like its 1959" type of activities
I'm intrigued.  How exactly did folks party in 1959?
Well, at least one did it very wrong - made some racist comments at a bar the legislators frequent and wound up being forced to resign.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1886 on: October 09, 2017, 03:02:22 PM »
I don't have stories of my own, but some of these are hilarious.

http://www.askamanager.org/2017/09/spectacular-resignation-stories-share-in-the-comments.html


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« Reply #1887 on: October 16, 2017, 12:27:04 PM »

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!
Just a note: many IT people deal with people who regularly describe the problem as "nothing works".  I was lucky enough early on in my career to have a very gentle IT Pro explain to me that "Nothing Works" didn't help him identify the problem and that I needed to use more descriptive sentences. 

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1888 on: October 16, 2017, 12:36:04 PM »

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!
Just a note: many IT people deal with people who regularly describe the problem as "nothing works".  I was lucky enough early on in my career to have a very gentle IT Pro explain to me that "Nothing Works" didn't help him identify the problem and that I needed to use more descriptive sentences.
On the "you're going to have to tell me more than that" front - I just got asked in the elevator "What's the status on that request <Person who no longer works here> made 2 months ago?".  I replied "What was it about?".  Answer "I don't remember, and it is none of the things you found in your email from this person and sent to me".

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« Reply #1889 on: October 16, 2017, 12:59:34 PM »

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!
Just a note: many IT people deal with people who regularly describe the problem as "nothing works".  I was lucky enough early on in my career to have a very gentle IT Pro explain to me that "Nothing Works" didn't help him identify the problem and that I needed to use more descriptive sentences.
On the "you're going to have to tell me more than that" front - I just got asked in the elevator "What's the status on that request <Person who no longer works here> made 2 months ago?".  I replied "What was it about?".  Answer "I don't remember, and it is none of the things you found in your email from this person and sent to me".

Well, the answer to this one should be pretty straightforward.  "Oh, now I remember.  We found it was user error and everything is working exactly as it should now."  :)

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« Reply #1890 on: October 16, 2017, 01:24:47 PM »

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!
Just a note: many IT people deal with people who regularly describe the problem as "nothing works".  I was lucky enough early on in my career to have a very gentle IT Pro explain to me that "Nothing Works" didn't help him identify the problem and that I needed to use more descriptive sentences.
On the "you're going to have to tell me more than that" front - I just got asked in the elevator "What's the status on that request <Person who no longer works here> made 2 months ago?".  I replied "What was it about?".  Answer "I don't remember, and it is none of the things you found in your email from this person and sent to me".

Well, the answer to this one should be pretty straightforward.  "Oh, now I remember.  We found it was user error and everything is working exactly as it should now."  :)
User error :)

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« Reply #1891 on: October 16, 2017, 02:02:44 PM »

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!
Just a note: many IT people deal with people who regularly describe the problem as "nothing works".  I was lucky enough early on in my career to have a very gentle IT Pro explain to me that "Nothing Works" didn't help him identify the problem and that I needed to use more descriptive sentences.
On the "you're going to have to tell me more than that" front - I just got asked in the elevator "What's the status on that request <Person who no longer works here> made 2 months ago?".  I replied "What was it about?".  Answer "I don't remember, and it is none of the things you found in your email from this person and sent to me".

Well, the answer to this one should be pretty straightforward.  "Oh, now I remember.  We found it was user error and everything is working exactly as it should now."  :)
User error :)

Me:   "It's a PEBKAC Issue."
Them: "Pebkac? What is a pebkac?"
Me: "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair"

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« Reply #1892 on: October 16, 2017, 02:06:29 PM »

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!
Just a note: many IT people deal with people who regularly describe the problem as "nothing works".  I was lucky enough early on in my career to have a very gentle IT Pro explain to me that "Nothing Works" didn't help him identify the problem and that I needed to use more descriptive sentences.
On the "you're going to have to tell me more than that" front - I just got asked in the elevator "What's the status on that request <Person who no longer works here> made 2 months ago?".  I replied "What was it about?".  Answer "I don't remember, and it is none of the things you found in your email from this person and sent to me".

Well, the answer to this one should be pretty straightforward.  "Oh, now I remember.  We found it was user error and everything is working exactly as it should now."  :)
User error :)

Me:   "It's a PEBKAC Issue."
Them: "Pebkac? What is a pebkac?"
Me: "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair"

Or possibly the I D ten T error.

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« Reply #1893 on: October 17, 2017, 08:52:02 AM »

Huh. Every place I've ever worked, IT end up being the tail wagging the dog, holding the entire place to ransom essentially for some ridiculous process. I once had to cancel an exam because nothing worked and the IT dept were in their weekly meeting. I mean, screw 200 students and staff, because 10 people have to have a meeting..... And this was an exam they knew about in advance because I'd contacted them to make sure everything was operational!
Just a note: many IT people deal with people who regularly describe the problem as "nothing works".  I was lucky enough early on in my career to have a very gentle IT Pro explain to me that "Nothing Works" didn't help him identify the problem and that I needed to use more descriptive sentences.
On the "you're going to have to tell me more than that" front - I just got asked in the elevator "What's the status on that request <Person who no longer works here> made 2 months ago?".  I replied "What was it about?".  Answer "I don't remember, and it is none of the things you found in your email from this person and sent to me".

Well, the answer to this one should be pretty straightforward.  "Oh, now I remember.  We found it was user error and everything is working exactly as it should now."  :)
User error :)

Me:   "It's a PEBKAC Issue."
Them: "Pebkac? What is a pebkac?"
Me: "Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair"

Or possibly the I D ten T error.

Don't laugh too much. I handle the software for my department, and I mentally sort people into 4 categories for when we're doing anything with the program (setup, install, etc):

1. Ok unless the program melts down.
2. Needs instructions, ok unless big problems
3. Needs detailed instructions and reassurance, can't handle problems
4. Just do it for them.

We also upgraded to a new version recently, so are sorting out the new bugs, etc. Of course, the one person getting hit with the most bugs is also FIRMLY in category 4. Anytime they have a problem, I have no idea if it's user error or an actual problem. So far, we're 50/50. It just takes a lot more time for me to figure out.

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1894 on: October 17, 2017, 09:22:39 AM »
Please, can we get back to FU stories?

Create a new thread if you wish to complain about IT.

Again, please take your IT threads elsewhere.

Can someone post a great FU Story?

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« Reply #1895 on: October 17, 2017, 10:12:02 AM »
Here is a potential story, not exactly FU money but FU options.  This is still unfolding so we will see what happens.

I have been at my current company for just over 2 years and they were bought by a new company about 3-4 months ago.  Of course the new company came in talking about how awesome they are but that is not how it is turning out to be.  About 1.5 months into this turnover my supervisor (who was completely incompetent at his job) was either fired or walked out.  If you ask anybody that I have worked with for the last 2 years I should have had that position for a long time and would be the correct person for the job.  Instead they gave it to a person, that due to my previous supervisors incompetence, had a much bigger interaction role with the new company than I did.  This person has zero experience in my field and, although they previously wanted somebody with a Master's, will not finish a Bachelor's until Dec (in a completely unrelated role).  I would probably be much more accepting of this if they would have at least interviewed us both for the position and that person just had a better interview but that is not what happened, they didn't interview anybody they just assigned the role.  A few weeks later the new company is giving out everybody's new title, pay band, etc and the title/pay band/etc that I am given is entry level (we have administrators that received the same as I did), this wouldn't be an issue if I was actually an entry level employee but I have over a dozen years experience in my field and since my new supervisor does not know anything about my field or what my previous supervisors field is, I will need to pick up the slack.  I basically told them that I flat out refuse to accept that title/pay band.  A couple weeks have gone by and they have returned with a new title and pay band but I feel it is a half ass attempt to make me shut up.  I also feel like they are not going to try very hard to make me happy because I am 4 months pregnant and they do offer a pretty good maternity leave, I have told them that I really don't want to have to look for a new job as a pregnant woman.

Meanwhile,  I have contacted my previous company to inquire about any openings that they might have.  I am expecting a call back something this week.  When I originally called them the conversation was about them finding me a role that would be a promotion. I am really hoping that I get a call today or tomorrow that will allow me to walk out.  I went this route vs new resumes because my previous company has been known to re-hire people and not start their years of service over, which means that getting maternity leave should be pretty simple.  They also allow for telecommuting on occasion, my old schedule included at least 1 day/week at home.

Additionally, my husband runs a business but has maintained a CDL just in case.  A CDL is very handy to have because you almost always can find a job.  His business is starting to slow down for the winter so last night he sent out a few resumes and already started to receive responses today.  I make more than he probably will with the CDL but the benefits of living off one income means that if I get pissed off enough I can still walk out, knowing that one of us will be able to pick up work pretty quick.

For us a job is required for insurance purposes.  I am 4 months pregnant and DH has MS. We can make lots of things work with what is in savings but insurance is not one that I am willing to pay completely out of pocket for, and we would not qualify for a subsidy at this point in the year.

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« Reply #1896 on: October 18, 2017, 07:20:55 AM »
Commercial Driver's License?

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« Reply #1897 on: October 18, 2017, 02:26:35 PM »

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Re: Epic FU money stories
« Reply #1898 on: October 18, 2017, 02:39:14 PM »
Good for you and your husband, NicoleO.  May fortune smile on you.  You are earning it.  Also, best wishes for a healthy pregnancy.

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« Reply #1899 on: October 19, 2017, 04:57:48 AM »
Several years ago, the Old Company (OC) I worked for was acquired by New Company (NC).

OC hired highly qualified and experienced people that were managed by even more highly qualified and experienced people. After the acquisition, the qualified people were given new contracts with NC (since OC technically no longer existed). The kicker was that, according to NC management, under the NC's HR policy and salary structure, most people ended up in a lower salary band...as in between 30-50% lower salary.

Over the next several months, because qualified people refused to work for less than market rates and didn't even bother applying for positions or quit, they hired on a lot of unqualified people, then expected the remaining qualified ones to manage/mentor the unqualified ones, on top of maintaining their own existing workload...all for less pay.

FU money allowed me to:

1. Refuse to sign the new contract. When the new manager brought it up and told me I HAD to sign, I asked her, "You know what I make now, and what I would make under the new contract. As a logical, well educated person, would you sign the new contract if you were me?" She smiled sheepishly and then mumbled something about HR and salary structures that couldn't be changed, and how I didn't qualify for the highest band because of years of experience or something. I didn't really hear her because I didn't care enough to listen to the excuses. I was still paid my old salary.

2. Ignore all stupid new processes. When manager brought it up, I told her she could file the paperwork on my behalf if it was really that necessary. None of the paperwork was ever filed because in reality, none of it was that necessary.

3. I was eventually called in to chat with the VP of the group (my manager's manager's manager), who was brought in from NC headquarters. She basically asked me what was wrong with me, phrased as, "You don't seem very happy...why?" So I told her why I thought all the qualified people were leaving, then handed her my resignation letter and walked out of her office.