What TV series do you like?

[Luke Warm]

I was thinking last night that the script could've been ripped from Scooby Doo.

[Wolfpack Mustachian]

Severance on Apple TV (3 month free-look it up)

Dark Comedy/Satire about Work/Life balance. Interesting plot.

Nice! If I get the three month free, is there anything else on apple tv to not miss?

[MoseyingAlong]

Severance on Apple TV (3 month free-look it up)

Dark Comedy/Satire about Work/Life balance. Interesting plot.

Nice! If I get the three month free, is there anything else on apple tv to not miss?

Ted Lasso!

[iris lily]

Severance on Apple TV (3 month free-look it up)

Dark Comedy/Satire about Work/Life balance. Interesting plot.

Nice! If I get the three month free, is there anything else on apple tv to not miss?

Ted Lasso!

Yes, those are the two I got Apple TV for. After finishing them,  I am watching Tehran about an Israeli spy agent who gets stuck in Iran. It’s  good so far.

I started watching Bad Sisters  on Apple TV but I thought it was pretty stupid.

[Sandi_k]

Severance on Apple TV (3 month free-look it up)

Dark Comedy/Satire about Work/Life balance. Interesting plot.

Nice! If I get the three month free, is there anything else on apple tv to not miss?

For All Mankind! The Right Stuff, except in this alternate history, the Russians make it to the moon first.

[Hula Hoop]

Has anyone else been watching Harry & Meghan on Netflix?  I'm not usually a person who follows the royals so I didn't know much about them going in but it's riveting stuff.  Lots of info about the British tabloids engaging in shocking behavior, royal 'houses' leaking damaging stuff about each other, horrific racism and sexism, a dysfunctional but highly privileged family.  And they come across as basically good people (especially Meghan and her mother) who were thrust into a weird f-ed up situation. 

I wasn't following the whole saga so this is probably old news to most - but it was incredible to see the outright racist and sexist treatment of Meghan by the British tabloids.  No idea how mainstream news outlets can get away with saying things that are both incredibly racist/sexist and also incredibly stupid.  Like saying that Meghan was "straight outta Compton" for example. Whaaat?

[Vashy]

Has anyone else been watching Harry & Meghan on Netflix?  I'm not usually a person who follows the royals so I didn't know much about them going in but it's riveting stuff.  Lots of info about the British tabloids engaging in shocking behavior, royal 'houses' leaking damaging stuff about each other, horrific racism and sexism, a dysfunctional but highly privileged family.  And they come across as basically good people (especially Meghan and her mother) who were thrust into a weird f-ed up situation. 

I wasn't following the whole saga so this is probably old news to most - but it was incredible to see the outright racist and sexist treatment of Meghan by the British tabloids.  No idea how mainstream news outlets can get away with saying things that are both incredibly racist/sexist and also incredibly stupid.  Like saying that Meghan was "straight outta Compton" for example. Whaaat?

Racism (and anti-EU sentiment, sexism, anti-immigrant screeds, transphobia etc) simply gets clicks and sells copies - that's all these people care about (saying this as an ex-journalist who thankfully never worked for those kinds of publications). The papers are mostly owned by right-wing families, too, who push their agenda. It's a dire, dire situation. I'm honestly hoping that the monarchy goes away pretty soon, now that Lizzy is dead.

[Hula Hoop]

Has anyone else been watching Harry & Meghan on Netflix?  I'm not usually a person who follows the royals so I didn't know much about them going in but it's riveting stuff.  Lots of info about the British tabloids engaging in shocking behavior, royal 'houses' leaking damaging stuff about each other, horrific racism and sexism, a dysfunctional but highly privileged family.  And they come across as basically good people (especially Meghan and her mother) who were thrust into a weird f-ed up situation. 

I wasn't following the whole saga so this is probably old news to most - but it was incredible to see the outright racist and sexist treatment of Meghan by the British tabloids.  No idea how mainstream news outlets can get away with saying things that are both incredibly racist/sexist and also incredibly stupid.  Like saying that Meghan was "straight outta Compton" for example. Whaaat?

Racism (and anti-EU sentiment, sexism, anti-immigrant screeds, transphobia etc) simply gets clicks and sells copies - that's all these people care about (saying this as an ex-journalist who thankfully never worked for those kinds of publications). The papers are mostly owned by right-wing families, too, who push their agenda. It's a dire, dire situation. I'm honestly hoping that the monarchy goes away pretty soon, now that Lizzy is dead.

I agree although I'm not British so no horse in this race.  Obviously, the press everywhere, especially these days, has big incentives to say outrageous things as they get more clicks.  In many countries this has led to IMO unfortunate political outcomes.  But the way they went after Meghan (and not Harry quite as much) just seemed incredibly sexist, racist, xenophobic.  Like they'd forgotten that she is a real person and that she just happened to fall in love with someone royal. And from the documentary, it seemed like she was really trying to fulfil her royal duties - doing lots of community outreach (for example with the Grenfell victims), charity work, lots of waving and smiling etc.  And she was good at it - really connecting with a lot of British and Commonwealth people - but this was sabotaged in various ways.

[Metalcat]

Has anyone else been watching Harry & Meghan on Netflix?  I'm not usually a person who follows the royals so I didn't know much about them going in but it's riveting stuff.  Lots of info about the British tabloids engaging in shocking behavior, royal 'houses' leaking damaging stuff about each other, horrific racism and sexism, a dysfunctional but highly privileged family.  And they come across as basically good people (especially Meghan and her mother) who were thrust into a weird f-ed up situation. 

I wasn't following the whole saga so this is probably old news to most - but it was incredible to see the outright racist and sexist treatment of Meghan by the British tabloids.  No idea how mainstream news outlets can get away with saying things that are both incredibly racist/sexist and also incredibly stupid.  Like saying that Meghan was "straight outta Compton" for example. Whaaat?

Oh yeah, British tabloids are pretty extreme. Racism in Europe also has a different flavour than US racism, it's not worse, it's just that what's acceptable is very different, so it can be pretty shocking if you aren't accustomed to their norms.

There's a lot of classism built in as well. The racism against her is much more acceptable because she's an American actress. If she were British aristocracy, the racism would be a totally different tone, still there, definitely, but it would manifest very differently.

I don't know if the show covers Piers Morgan's obsessive hatred of her, but that story is so disturbing and such a perfect distillation of sexism, racism, classism, and toxic masculinity. It's just so deranged it's hard to even grasp as real.

[Hula Hoop]

They never mention Piers Morgan but some of the headlines that flash across the screen might be his - not sure. 

I don't know if you can really make generalizations about "European racism" or whatever.  I live in Europe too (Italy) and the racism here is different (but unfortunately just as bad) as the racism in, say, the UK.

But you could be right - there may have also been a healthy serving of classism.  Obviously, Meghan Markle is from a relatively humble background and self made.

[Metalcat]

They never mention Piers Morgan but some of the headlines that flash across the screen might be his - not sure. 

I don't know if you can really make generalizations about "European racism" or whatever.  I live in Europe too (Italy) and the racism here is different (but unfortunately just as bad) as the racism in, say, the UK.

But you could be right - there may have also been a healthy serving of classism.  Obviously, Meghan Markle is from a relatively humble background and self made.

Yes. To be very clear, I'm not saying all European racism is the same. I'm saying that it is pretty universally different from American racism.

So no matter what region an American looks at in Europe, the racism will likely be quite different.

[NotJen]

I started watching Bad Sisters  on Apple TV but I thought it was pretty stupid.

How far did you get?  I was meh on the first episode, but LOVED it by the end.

[bill1827]

I wasn't following the whole saga so this is probably old news to most - but it was incredible to see the outright racist and sexist treatment of Meghan by the British tabloids.  No idea how mainstream news outlets can get away with saying things that are both incredibly racist/sexist and also incredibly stupid.  Like saying that Meghan was "straight outta Compton" for example. Whaaat?

I haven't watched the Netflix series and won't do so; I have no interest in our over privileged, dysfunctional royal family. However here's a fine example of how disgusting some of our journalists can be. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/dec/18/jeremy-clarkson-condemned-meghan-column-the-sun

Jeremy Clarkson is a motoring journalist who's made a name for himself by making outrageous comments, but this one is spectacularly repulsive. He has the distinction of having prompted the largest number of complaints to our toothless press complaints organisation ever, more than the total number of complaints made last year.

[chevy1956]

Racism (and anti-EU sentiment, sexism, anti-immigrant screeds, transphobia etc) simply gets clicks and sells copies - that's all these people care about

I assume you are talking about Harry and Meghan. I'm not watching the show but they come across to me as spoiled entitled brats. Complaining about living in a small house on palace grounds and talking about racism when they are living the life of the richest people in history astounds me.

If they had integrity they would quit the royal family, not take any money and get a job like normal people.

[Fresh Bread]

If they had integrity they would quit the royal family, not take any money and get a job like normal people.

Well they did quit the family and no longer receive any money from them. Unfortunately they don't feel they can earn enough money from a regular job, hence these awful media deals. I mean, I get it - haven't watched but I believe they have millions to pay for security
 But then these shows only increase that need They are between a rock and a hard place. I hope for their sake that they can figure something out and they don't end up like Sarah Ferguson (millions in debt, having to move back in with her pedo ex-husband and accepting any dodgy media opportunity).

I just finished Handmaid's Tale series 5(?) and really enjoyed it. I hated the last series but my friend convinced me it was worth persisting and she was right.

I'm also still slowly working through The Bureau, the French spy series, will finish it one day. I like it a lot but I can't binge watch foreign language shows. It's been consistently good over the four series I've seen and made me much more open to spy dramas.

The Capture is a police drama with spy flavour, about deepfaking CCTV. I've watched both Series 1 &2 and I was fairly gripped.

We started Guilt last night. A Scottish drama about two brothers that accidentally kill an old man. I'm not really enjoying it - I guess it's supposed to be dark humour but it's making me really anxious, I don't know why. I had trouble sleeping after, even though the content isn't scary. But there was a bit of a hook near the end of the first episode that will probably make me carry on.

[chevy1956]

Well they did quit the family and no longer receive any money from them. Unfortunately they don't feel they can earn enough money from a regular job, hence these awful media deals. I mean, I get it - haven't watched but I believe they have millions to pay for security
 But then these shows only increase that need They are between a rock and a hard place.

Did they really quit and not accept money ? I doubt it. Just say this is true the way they've gone and done a media deal to try and make out they've had it tough is ridiculous. They are still making money off the back of the monarchy.

I don't think they are between a rock and a hard place at all. They are extremely privileged. They are in the top .00001% of wealthy people in the world.

I think it's ludicrous.

[Fresh Bread]

Well they did quit the family and no longer receive any money from them. Unfortunately they don't feel they can earn enough money from a regular job, hence these awful media deals. I mean, I get it - haven't watched but I believe they have millions to pay for security
 But then these shows only increase that need They are between a rock and a hard place.

Did they really quit and not accept money ? I doubt it. Just say this is true the way they've gone and done a media deal to try and make out they've had it tough is ridiculous. They are still making money off the back of the monarchy.

I don't think they are between a rock and a hard place at all. They are extremely privileged. They are in the top .00001% of wealthy people in the world.

I think it's ludicrous.

Well you sound like the British media!

[chevy1956]

Well they did quit the family and no longer receive any money from them. Unfortunately they don't feel they can earn enough money from a regular job, hence these awful media deals. I mean, I get it - haven't watched but I believe they have millions to pay for security
 But then these shows only increase that need They are between a rock and a hard place.

Did they really quit and not accept money ? I doubt it. Just say this is true the way they've gone and done a media deal to try and make out they've had it tough is ridiculous. They are still making money off the back of the monarchy.

I don't think they are between a rock and a hard place at all. They are extremely privileged. They are in the top .00001% of wealthy people in the world.

I think it's ludicrous.

Well you sound like the British media!

Well it sounds to me like the British media have this spot on. I won't watch the show but the only positive comments I've heard in the press are that the teeing off on Megan is wrong because it's so extreme and the article I read that stated that prefaced that opinion by stating that they were completely narcissistic and entitled.

I'm astounded that people defend them and it's even worse hearing people blame the British media or the monarchy or whoever for their actions.

They remind me of the freedom fighting anti-vaxxers or conspiracy theorists. Just make something up to react against and call yourself a freedom fighter.

I worked with a guy whose Dad was locked up in prison because he knew Che Guevara. Nelson Mandela was a freedom fighter. There are people living in squalid conditions across the world. The Ukraine is being invaded. People are killed every day. Women get sold into prostitution. Kids get abused.

These people are the entitled pampered elite who hang crap on his family and it's so petty.

They could have chosen to make a stand on principle or they could have chosen to try and help so many causes.

[Fresh Bread]

Just to be clear, I'm not defending them. But at the end of the day, celebrities are humans and they don't deserve to be bullied IMO no matter how annoying they are.

[iris lily]

Has anyone else been watching Harry & Meghan on Netflix?  I'm not usually a person who follows the royals so I didn't know much about them going in but it's riveting stuff.  Lots of info about the British tabloids engaging in shocking behavior, royal 'houses' leaking damaging stuff about each other, horrific racism and sexism, a dysfunctional but highly privileged family.  And they come across as basically good people (especially Meghan and her mother) who were thrust into a weird f-ed up situation. 

I wasn't following the whole saga so this is probably old news to most - but it was incredible to see the outright racist and sexist treatment of Meghan by the British tabloids.  No idea how mainstream news outlets can get away with saying things that are both incredibly racist/sexist and also incredibly stupid.  Like saying that Meghan was "straight outta Compton" for example. Whaaat?

Yes it is an interesting recreation of Sussex reality. I think Harry and Meghan are in the process of crashing and burning,though.  It would’ve already happened had not Covid shut down everything for two years.

No reasonable person wished them ill will when they left the royal family because who among us wants to live in that rule bound fish bowl? With William and Kate producing multiple progeny, Harry was superfluous. Seemed a good idea to me that they take their royal allowance and scram to lovely Canada where they could quietly lead a life of leisure making occasional goodwill appearances. But that doesn’t appear to be their agenda.

They’ve lost me with their Oprahfying reality show whining, complaining, blaming, and their expectation of what they can do for mankind. They want to be those people who jet around giving awards and lecturing in what we all need to be doing.

I can do without the Harry and Megs of the world.

Edited to add: sorry, my error. Harry inherited $14 million from his mom, and then got two or 3 million from his father. Then Charles cut him off. So I can sincerely see why Harry and Megs are having money troubles because when you’ve got $14 million and you go out and get a $10 million mortgage, well that’s a problem. $14 million doesn’t go that far in that lifestyle.

So I guess they do have to hustle to produce whiny TV content  bemoaning their lives because that’s all they have to sell really.

[Vashy]

Racism (and anti-EU sentiment, sexism, anti-immigrant screeds, transphobia etc) simply gets clicks and sells copies - that's all these people care about (saying this as an ex-journalist who thankfully never worked for those kinds of publications). The papers are mostly owned by right-wing families, too, who push their agenda. It's a dire, dire situation. I'm honestly hoping that the monarchy goes away pretty soon, now that Lizzy is dead.

I agree although I'm not British so no horse in this race.  Obviously, the press everywhere, especially these days, has big incentives to say outrageous things as they get more clicks.  In many countries this has led to IMO unfortunate political outcomes.  But the way they went after Meghan (and not Harry quite as much) just seemed incredibly sexist, racist, xenophobic.  Like they'd forgotten that she is a real person and that she just happened to fall in love with someone royal. And from the documentary, it seemed like she was really trying to fulfil her royal duties - doing lots of community outreach (for example with the Grenfell victims), charity work, lots of waving and smiling etc.  And she was good at it - really connecting with a lot of British and Commonwealth people - but this was sabotaged in various ways.

What I'm trying to say is that it has nothing to do with Meghan or Harry or really anything factual - a large number of people are so invested in hating her that they'll lap up any new content/click on any link/gleefully consume any column inches devoted to casting aspersions on her/hating on her. Conversely, her "supporters" will click on/consume/read the same screeds to get outraged over it - putting more money into the machine regardless of facts or even whether they stand on the side of "haters" or "supporters". The only way to not feed the machine is to step away from it - also filing complaints and hopefully also suing the companies/their owners when possible. The same machine also put huge amounts of pressure on "Kate", until she completely abdicated her personality and personal wishes/desires to do nothing but be a blank slate. Even then, her "humble" origins are still sometimes pointed out.

Meghan - for whatever reason - helps these companies make money, so they'll never leave her alone while the bottom line is in the black.

[Vashy]

Racism (and anti-EU sentiment, sexism, anti-immigrant screeds, transphobia etc) simply gets clicks and sells copies - that's all these people care about

I assume you are talking about Harry and Meghan. I'm not watching the show but they come across to me as spoiled entitled brats. Complaining about living in a small house on palace grounds and talking about racism when they are living the life of the richest people in history astounds me.

If they had integrity they would quit the royal family, not take any money and get a job like normal people.

By "these people" I mean the editors, media personages and owners of the newspapers that keep the anti-Meghan/Harry thing going - in short, those people setting the agenda at these companies. And honestly, there are some terribly spoiled rich people out there - but they're (for the most part) afforded privacy so we don't get to see how awful they are. We know things about them we kind of have no business of knowing (William's alleged sexual kink for pegging, for example), and where we HAVE a business of knowing (the allegations surrounding Randy Andy's friendship with Epstein, the rampant racism and undemocratic influence), things are brushed under the rug as much as possible. The hypocrisy is staggering. And even if I go with the most uncharitable interpretation - that H&M are entitled assholes - that's their business, not mine, and definitely no excuse to treat human beings like that that have committed no crimes.

(For the record, I'd abolish the monarchy, take all their bling and real estate and help pay off the public debt, but here we are.)

[chevy1956]

By "these people" I mean the editors, media personages and owners of the newspapers that keep the anti-Meghan/Harry thing going - in short, those people setting the agenda at these companies.
...

And even if I go with the most uncharitable interpretation - that H&M are entitled assholes - that's their business, not mine, and definitely no excuse to treat human beings like that that have committed no crimes.

The problem with these comments is H & M are the ones doing Oprah interviews, Netflix series and books. They are thriving on it.

[Tyson]

By "these people" I mean the editors, media personages and owners of the newspapers that keep the anti-Meghan/Harry thing going - in short, those people setting the agenda at these companies.
...

And even if I go with the most uncharitable interpretation - that H&M are entitled assholes - that's their business, not mine, and definitely no excuse to treat human beings like that that have committed no crimes.

The problem with these comments is H & M are the ones doing Oprah interviews, Netflix series and books. They are thriving on it.

To be fair, they might just need the money, haha. 

Just to be clear, I do think the British press has treated them abominably and there's almost certainly racism at the root of it.  Being from Texas myself, I got to see lots of flavors of racism when I was younger.  This smells like that.

[Vashy]

By "these people" I mean the editors, media personages and owners of the newspapers that keep the anti-Meghan/Harry thing going - in short, those people setting the agenda at these companies.
...

And even if I go with the most uncharitable interpretation - that H&M are entitled assholes - that's their business, not mine, and definitely no excuse to treat human beings like that that have committed no crimes.

The problem with these comments is H & M are the ones doing Oprah interviews, Netflix series and books. They are thriving on it.

Another point of view: they want to tell their version of the story. And I'm not seeing how that's more awful than the libel, slander and racism they've been subjected to. (For the record, I don't click on any of the links and don't plan to watch that show either.)

[chevy1956]

By "these people" I mean the editors, media personages and owners of the newspapers that keep the anti-Meghan/Harry thing going - in short, those people setting the agenda at these companies.
...

And even if I go with the most uncharitable interpretation - that H&M are entitled assholes - that's their business, not mine, and definitely no excuse to treat human beings like that that have committed no crimes.

The problem with these comments is H & M are the ones doing Oprah interviews, Netflix series and books. They are thriving on it.

Another point of view: they want to tell their version of the story. And I'm not seeing how that's more awful than the libel, slander and racism they've been subjected to. (For the record, I don't click on any of the links and don't plan to watch that show either.)

Every point of view or opinion is I suppose an opinion but that doesn't make each opinion equally valid. For racism to be an issue you'd need to explain why being give millions of dollars is considered racism. I'd argue they've played the racism card  and earned millions for it. If that is racism I'd suggest that racism is a extremely beneficial for the recipients of racism.

My wife is Asian and my kids therefore bi-racial. I really hope they are the recipients of such racism.

[Vashy]

By "these people" I mean the editors, media personages and owners of the newspapers that keep the anti-Meghan/Harry thing going - in short, those people setting the agenda at these companies.
...

And even if I go with the most uncharitable interpretation - that H&M are entitled assholes - that's their business, not mine, and definitely no excuse to treat human beings like that that have committed no crimes.

The problem with these comments is H & M are the ones doing Oprah interviews, Netflix series and books. They are thriving on it.

Another point of view: they want to tell their version of the story. And I'm not seeing how that's more awful than the libel, slander and racism they've been subjected to. (For the record, I don't click on any of the links and don't plan to watch that show either.)

Every point of view or opinion is I suppose an opinion but that doesn't make each opinion equally valid. For racism to be an issue you'd need to explain why being give millions of dollars is considered racism. I'd argue they've played the racism card  and earned millions for it. If that is racism I'd suggest that racism is a extremely beneficial for the recipients of racism.

My wife is Asian and my kids therefore bi-racial. I really hope they are the recipients of such racism.

Yeah, I’m out of this conversation. Enjoy your sarcasm.

[Hula Hoop]

By "these people" I mean the editors, media personages and owners of the newspapers that keep the anti-Meghan/Harry thing going - in short, those people setting the agenda at these companies.
...

And even if I go with the most uncharitable interpretation - that H&M are entitled assholes - that's their business, not mine, and definitely no excuse to treat human beings like that that have committed no crimes.

The problem with these comments is H & M are the ones doing Oprah interviews, Netflix series and books. They are thriving on it.

Another point of view: they want to tell their version of the story. And I'm not seeing how that's more awful than the libel, slander and racism they've been subjected to. (For the record, I don't click on any of the links and don't plan to watch that show either.)

Exactly.  I'm also an anti-monarchist.  Luckily IMO my adopted country (Italy) voted to get rid of their monarchy after WW2.  However, since they choose to continue the monarchy in the UK and H&M were already subjected to incredibly negative, racist and sexist attacks by the British press, IMO they have every right to turn it around now and tell their own story while also making their own money out of it.  Much better than just allowing abhorrent journalists like Clarkson to cash in on their fame.  Yes, there are starving people in the world and tons of poverty and injustice but that doesn't mean that wealthy privileged people can just be dragged through the mud by the press in awful racist sexist ways without the press being called out on it.  Also, what kind of message do the extremely public attacks on Meghan give to young black girls in the UK (and elsewhere)?  The royal family are figureheads so the attacks on Meghan symbolised something.

It also seemed so weird in the context of Prince Andrew being an actual criminal that Meghan, not Andrew, is the one who is attacked by the British press.

Anyway it sounds like @chevy1956 has some rather bigger issues to work out. 

[Luke Warm]

watching 'a league of their own' on amazon. not great but not awful.

[Hula Hoop]

watching 'a league of their own' on amazon. not great but not awful.

Isn't that a movie rather than a TV series?  I think it has Geena Davis in it?

[Luke Warm]

watching 'a league of their own' on amazon. not great but not awful.

Isn't that a movie rather than a TV series?  I think it has Geena Davis in it?

a series based on the movie

[chevy1956]

Anyway it sounds like @chevy1956 has some rather bigger issues to work out.

Nice pot shot. Very mature.

[iris lily]

I started watching Bad Sisters  on Apple TV but I thought it was pretty stupid.

How far did you get?  I was meh on the first episode, but LOVED it by the end.

I got bored somewhere in episode three.

[brandon1827]

Finished His Dark Materials...somewhat satisfying ending to the series.

Started watching Derry Girls and it is hilarious!

[Hula Hoop]

Finished His Dark Materials...somewhat satisfying ending to the series.

Started watching Derry Girls and it is hilarious!

OMG I loved Derry Girls!  Just the best show ever.  I haven't tried His Dark Materials. 

[charis]

We started season two of White Lotus which is living up to season one so far. Also, gorgeous. Plus Aubrey Plaza has the best sneer on television.

I gave up on the first season. I just didn't like it.

Just finished the first season.  And I will probably watch the second season for the guilty pleasure/rich people behaving badly shenanigans.

But I am a little baffled by the hype surrounding the first season.  There were some very funny moments and it had something (unsurprising) to say about rich white people vacationing in other cultures. But the "mystery" was super lame and made for a disappointing ending, and Jennifer Coolidge's story line was oddly thin and predictable.

[StarBright]

We just finished She Hulk: Attorney at Law on Disney+.

I avoided it for a while because I'm marveled out. But we really enjoyed it!

It is only 9 Episodes each about 20-ish minutes long. It was lighthearted and funny and a mash up of Ally McBeal and Marvel that mostly works. It also gently takes on gamergaters and comicbook bros in a satisfying way.

[iris lily]

I watched an entire 8 part series on Apple TV called “Surface” and am the worse for it. I knew it would be dumb by the second episode and it was, yet I kept on watching it. It is a plot Twist thriller. It is rated only 6.somethng on IMDB and I should have avoided it.

[Metalcat]

I watched an entire 8 part series on Apple TV called “Surface” and am the worse for it. I knew it would be dumb by the second episode and it was, yet I kept on watching it. It is a plot Twist thriller. It is rated only 6.somethng on IMDB and I should have avoided it.

Oh yeah, it's exceptionally bad because now and then it behaves like it might get good, but then it just gets worse.

Like, it has all of the basic ingredients to be good, but the recipe turned out fucking awful.

[SaucyAussie]

I tried my best, but Jack Ryan is not watchable.

[sui generis]

I tried my best, but Jack Ryan is not watchable.

Bummer.  I'd love to see John Krasinski in something great again.  Or was he only great because he had the easy job of playing the straight man, esp. with respect to Michael and Dwight?  Man I miss The Office.

[iris lily]

I watched an entire 8 part series on Apple TV called “Surface” and am the worse for it. I knew it would be dumb by the second episode and it was, yet I kept on watching it. It is a plot Twist thriller. It is rated only 6.somethng on IMDB and I should have avoided it.

Oh yeah, it's exceptionally bad because now and then it behaves like it might get good, but then it just gets worse.

Like, it has all of the basic ingredients to be good, but the recipe turned out fucking awful.

They didn’t even do a wrap up of the cop-boyfriend story line, that I saw anyway. it ended rather abruptly.

[Metalcat]

I watched an entire 8 part series on Apple TV called “Surface” and am the worse for it. I knew it would be dumb by the second episode and it was, yet I kept on watching it. It is a plot Twist thriller. It is rated only 6.somethng on IMDB and I should have avoided it.

Oh yeah, it's exceptionally bad because now and then it behaves like it might get good, but then it just gets worse.

Like, it has all of the basic ingredients to be good, but the recipe turned out fucking awful.

They didn’t even do a wrap up of the cop-boyfriend story line, that I saw anyway. it ended rather abruptly.

Yeah, it was like they paid for a great director, good cast, the sets, costumes, makeup, all were top notch, but they just said "fuck it" on the writing.

[chevy1956]

Watching "The Long Call" now. The wife and myself like it but it didn't get great reviews. It's based of the Ann Cleeves books which I really love. Vera and Shetland are also two of our favorite shows. This is very similar. The setting is awesome, the story is pretty good and the characters likable.

I think we will watch Slow Horses next. We loved the first season.

[EscapeVelocity2020]

I'm enjoying Apple's 'Echo 3' a whole lot more than the third season of Prime's 'Jack Ryan' series.  I think I wanted something gritty and realistic, so I can definitely recommend Echo 3. 

It's too bad, because I thought the first season of 'Jack Ryan' was pretty good, but, similar to '24' (Jack Bauer / Kiefer Southerland), they have too rigid of a formula and it's run it's course...  would not recommend that one, despite the higher budget and promotion.

[wenchsenior]

Dipped a toe in on Peaky Blinders. First season was pretty good, will keep watching. I'm surprised to enjoy it b/c we normally don't go for gangster-type stories (esp my husband). But we're very interested in the sociological complexity and history elements, so maybe it's just modern Italian gangsters that bore us stiff?

[iris lily]

Dipped a toe in on Peaky Blinders. First season was pretty good, will keep watching. I'm surprised to enjoy it b/c we normally don't go for gangster-type stories (esp my husband). But we're very interested in the sociological complexity and history elements, so maybe it's just modern Italian gangsters that bore us stiff?

I’ve never liked  Mafioso shows until The Sopranos.

I never liked .cop shows until The Shield and The Wire.

I never liked .westerns until Deadwood.

Excellent productions transcend their genre.

[brandon1827]

Dipped a toe in on Peaky Blinders. First season was pretty good, will keep watching. I'm surprised to enjoy it b/c we normally don't go for gangster-type stories (esp my husband). But we're very interested in the sociological complexity and history elements, so maybe it's just modern Italian gangsters that bore us stiff?

Great show...although the middle seasons can seem very similar to the first. Cillian Murphy is brilliant

Also enjoyed Jack Ryan season 3. The character has changed significantly from season 1, but that should be expected. Fun plot twists and plenty of action. It's a fun watch.

[Tyson]

Finished season 1 of Severance on Apple TV.  Very good show, interesting hook, nice plot twists along the way. 

[amyj05]

Yellowstone is the only show I'm currently watching.