Author Topic: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.  (Read 5350 times)

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We had a seriously leaky outdoor faucet (it worked last summer but when we reconnected the hose this spring it was gushing out water at the top). I considered calling a plumber,  but for obviou$ reason$ balked at the idea.

I had never touched a faucet to fix it in my life, so had no idea of the parts. To make matters worse, this one is located under the deck, a very inconvenient place with almost no room to move and no room to really get a good look at it.

I felt inspired and resourceful today, so first I used my phone to take a picture of the thing where I couldn't see, to give me an idea of what I was dealing with. Bingo, that revealed the model number. A quick Google search yielded an instructional video by the maker of the faucet on how to install a repair kit. At the very end of the video, another bingo. The name of the top part and how to replace that (vacuum breaker float kit).

The hardware store only had the entire repair kit for sale, no float kit sold separately. It set me back $30. I went home, and started to work on it.

Tools used: pliers, screwdriver, phone for pictures, many expletives to get the old parts lose and out, and finally, calling wife for her chewed chewing gum for holding a part in place while screwing another one in pretty much blindly. No worries, I didn't actually use the gum to stop the leak. ;)

IT WORKED! Some post-operation research showed a call to the plumber would have cost me $170 with parts. $140 saved, not bad.

Proud of my first-time faucet fix and my McGyverish ways. :)

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2014, 08:31:59 PM »
Awesome work! :D

Love the gum usage... got to say I wondered if you used it to seal something when I first clicked in tho!

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2014, 08:48:55 PM »
Is this some kind of special faucet? I bought replacement outdoor hose faucets for like $8. I made sure to get the ball valve version.

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2014, 08:49:54 PM »
Awesome work! :D

Love the gum usage... got to say I wondered if you used it to seal something when I first clicked in tho!

My wife thought the same thing and freaked out when I asked her for her chewing gum. "Nooo!" she said. "I thought you were fixing it for real!" I explained the gum was just a tool, and she happily spit it out. LOL!

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2014, 08:51:28 PM »
Is this some kind of special faucet? I bought replacement outdoor hose faucets for like $8. I made sure to get the ball valve version.

I don't know. It's the kind that's installed, so I wasn't about to try to replace the whole thing. It is a Woodford Model 17.

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2014, 12:27:40 PM »
Is this some kind of special faucet? I bought replacement outdoor hose faucets for like $8. I made sure to get the ball valve version.

Yes, this faucet has an integral vacuum-break (anti-siphon valve) built in to prevent siphoning of water that has passed the valve back into the line in the case of water pressure loss, a health/plumbing code thing.  Keeps water supply safer.

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2014, 06:39:58 PM »
Is this some kind of special faucet? I bought replacement outdoor hose faucets for like $8. I made sure to get the ball valve version.

Yes, this faucet has an integral vacuum-break (anti-siphon valve) built in to prevent siphoning of water that has passed the valve back into the line in the case of water pressure loss, a health/plumbing code thing.  Keeps water supply safer.

Huh. Around here, typically you have a $4 screw-on anti-siphon valve.

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2014, 06:41:54 PM »
Is this some kind of special faucet? I bought replacement outdoor hose faucets for like $8. I made sure to get the ball valve version.

Yes, this faucet has an integral vacuum-break (anti-siphon valve) built in to prevent siphoning of water that has passed the valve back into the line in the case of water pressure loss, a health/plumbing code thing.  Keeps water supply safer.

Huh. Around here, typically you have a $4 screw-on anti-siphon valve.

Okay, I looked up the Woodford Model 17, and it is freeze proof - which explains the cost :) When I lived in the North, we drained the outside faucets for the winter. Apparently this one doesn't need to.

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2014, 04:20:18 PM »
Is this some kind of special faucet? I bought replacement outdoor hose faucets for like $8. I made sure to get the ball valve version.

Yes, this faucet has an integral vacuum-break (anti-siphon valve) built in to prevent siphoning of water that has passed the valve back into the line in the case of water pressure loss, a health/plumbing code thing.  Keeps water supply safer.

Huh. Around here, typically you have a $4 screw-on anti-siphon valve.

Okay, I looked up the Woodford Model 17, and it is freeze proof - which explains the cost :) When I lived in the North, we drained the outside faucets for the winter. Apparently this one doesn't need to.

Actually, in cold areas these things tend to fail pretty regularly since folks forget one very big step as they prep their homes for winter. If you leave a hose connected to them, the water will stay in the long internal chamber surrounding the valve stem. This freezes, splits the tube and doesn't leak a bit.........until you turn the hose back on in spring, and there is water gushing inside the wall!

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2014, 04:33:06 PM »
Actually, in cold areas these things tend to fail pretty regularly since folks forget one very big step as they prep their homes for winter. If you leave a hose connected to them, the water will stay in the long internal chamber surrounding the valve stem. This freezes, splits the tube and doesn't leak a bit.........until you turn the hose back on in spring, and there is water gushing inside the wall!

This is exactly what happened in another thread here.  Gotta remove those hoses before they freeze.

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2014, 05:06:15 PM »
Actually, in cold areas these things tend to fail pretty regularly since folks forget one very big step as they prep their homes for winter. If you leave a hose connected to them, the water will stay in the long internal chamber surrounding the valve stem. This freezes, splits the tube and doesn't leak a bit.........until you turn the hose back on in spring, and there is water gushing inside the wall!

This is exactly what happened in another thread here.  Gotta remove those hoses before they freeze.

That would be me - here is the link back.

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/do-it-yourself-forum!/split-copper-pipe/msg275423/#msg275423

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Re: Outdoor faucet FIXED (with help of chewing gum). No plumber called.
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2014, 09:30:24 AM »
That would be me - here is the link back.

http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/do-it-yourself-forum!/split-copper-pipe/msg275423/#msg275423

Yep, yours was the post I was thinking of. 

When it gets super cold (I'm also in Washington) I remove all the hoses and put those insulated covers on the spigots.  We have one spigot we have to use throughout the year and when it's gets into the teens it will often freeze despite being covered, but it doesn't break because it's so stout.

 

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