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How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:50:50 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I can't tell you how close to true this is; I work for one of the larger fortune 500's and sure enough, our electronic devices have special software installed to monitor, track, control and more.  Take a look at this story and see for yourself.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-your-boss-will-run-your-life-in-a-few-years-165905475.html

Stay focused,

Steve (NWOutlier)



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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 11:04:58 AM »
I see an interesting few decades for the federal courts, when they will be presented with lots of cases about employees being fired because monitoring software suggested that they were not being "optimal", and whether conduct outside of business hours can be used to make decisions about an employee.

I hope the courts see wisdom in the decades ahead.

...freedom and eternal vigilance and all that.

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Re: How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 05:29:36 AM »
This is one more reason to hurry the hell up and get financially independent!

(Thank goodness I am already there.)

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Re: How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 07:22:40 AM »
If you read Dr. Doom's blog at livingafi.com, specifically his Job Experience series, he ran into this about 10 years ago already.

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Re: How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 07:27:35 AM »
For sure, I would not be surprised if they put in keyloggers down the road.  We already of a process/program monitor on all our PC that we DON'T tell users.  Records all history of usage (internet/programs/etc) for reporting.  I know because I'm in IT and I support the application.

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Re: How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2014, 11:06:57 AM »
Nero,
There is no basis for a lawsuit in federal court against an employer for an adverse employment action, except where there is a statute providing protection.  Even now, my employer could fire me if he just did not like my bumper stickers.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2014, 12:31:50 PM »
Nero,
There is no basis for a lawsuit in federal court against an employer for an adverse employment action, except where there is a statute providing protection.  Even now, my employer could fire me if he just did not like my bumper stickers.
Hi Dee18

I believe what you are referring to is the at-will employment doctrine, which allows a private sector employer to terminate an employee for any reason sans contract.  And I agree with you there - you can be fired for something as seemingly trivial as your bumper-stickers with no legal recourse available.
However, this doesn't include public workers (and with recent court rulings, private companies that get the majority of their contracts from the public sector, or de-facto public contractors).  It also doesn't include anyone who has a job contract, which is the majority of salaried employees. 

where I see an interesting legal and political interaction is what employers put into an employees contract.  The employers will try to make grounds for termination as broad as possible, while unions and individuals will try to place limits on their ability to fire someone.  It's the same as it always has been.
As I see it, eventually someone with a contract stating that their performance will be based solely on at-work metrics will be fired because the company's monitoring software will record what they are doing while they are not being paid.  The courts could side with the employer, or favor a narrow ruling strictly applying to that case, or they could make a broader ruling about off-hours monitoring can be grounds for dismissal.  That's what I was getting at when I said that I think it will be an interesting few decades for employment law.

Oh, and just an FYI, my handle is Nereo, not Nero (the fabled lunatic roman emperor)
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Re: How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2014, 04:44:20 PM »
If you read Dr. Doom's blog at livingafi.com, specifically his Job Experience series, he ran into this about 10 years ago already.

You're right! I've already dug into this blog; loving the comparision to my life, even though it's not the same exact job.

I shall continue!

Steve
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Re: How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2014, 09:33:48 PM »
The 3 words that can let us breathe easy - attracting top talent.

If companies want to do this, they won't do that. 

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Re: How your boss will run your life in a few years...
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2014, 09:44:11 PM »
Aaah.  I love self employment :)