How do you prepare for war?

[DumpTruck]

6000 rounds of Isreali surpluss 5.56
50 pmags
full floating bull barrel, 4x optic, national match trigger group

2000 rounds 45

several hundred 00 shot and slugs

20 gallons of RO filtered water

Compost and seeds

Bicycles and dirt bikes because you aren't going anywhere in grid lock otherwise.

Orginally from TX where a lot of consumerism and fear based mindsets prevail. Now I worship the planet and nature and feel much more peaceful. I no longer feel the need for my stash, but I have a lot of value in it. I wouldn't mind selling it. It's ok to die. Death holds no fear.

Hoka Hey

[former player]

And climate change won't affect the U.S. much either.

Not what the Department of Defense thinks -

https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/612710/

[DumpTruck]

And climate change won't affect the U.S. much either.

Not what the Department of Defense thinks -

https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/612710/

This is why FEMA is now militarized 

[aceyou]

If shit really hits the fan my plan is to be one of the people who dies. 

[BookLoverL]

I'm in the rural part of the UK, and my main concerns natural-disaster-wise here would be flooding or house fires. Quite a few towns near me but down in the bottom of the valleys had flooding during heavy storms at some point during the past few years, but I live up a hill, so that's not a worry for me at all right now - as far as I'm concerned, you can avoid losing everything in a flood by, you know, not buying a house that is at the bottom of a valley on a river's flood plain. As a longer term measure, I think we ought to be planting more trees uphill of flood zones.

In terms of fire, most fires over here are isolated occurrences - the climate's wet enough that wildfires aren't a concern at all. Therefore the most likely reasons my house would set on fire would be smoking, and I don't smoke, electrical fires from faulty kitchen equipment, or accidentally managing to piss off an arsonist, which I think is probably also unlikely.

The thing that most concerns me in the UK is the population level and the just-in-time supermarket system. The UK as a whole imports something like 40% of its food, I'm sure I read somewhere. I'm trying to learn how to garden, because while I don't think it's likely in the immediate future, I could definitely see some sort of food supply issue happening within the next 50 years if some sort of world war or climate disaster interrupted world food trade.

[surfhb]

The ONLY thing we need to worry about is a Nuclear exchanged..... start supporting leadership which supports ridding the world of these weapons.   

and........Stop watching TV!    Fucking garbage

[Cranky]

I don't think war is likely in the U.S. And climate change won't affect the U.S. much either. The most likely cause of societal breakdown is the U.S. government defaulting on its debt. Read the novel "The Mandibles" by Lionel Shriver for a realistic look at how that might play out. 

I also think a national/global pandemic could wreak some havoc—let's hope not.

The Mandibles gave me actual nightmares.

I’m not so confident that climate change won’t have serious economic effects in the US.

[CogentCap]

But I think what a lot of people don't realize is that if you're not a targeted group, you are sheltered from seeing some of the nastiness. 

I mean, it's great that you aren't seeing racism. But it's a luxury to not be a target; just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not happening and isn't an issue.  Adults bully the same way they did as children: pick out someone different as an easy target; do it when nobody who would get them into trouble is looking; deny they did it when called out..

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Also, let's remember that it was something Imma said that started this whole thing, and she/he/they live in the Netherlands.  Not US. It could definitely be that "everyone" is talking about the extremists.  There's been some crazy stuff going on in Europe the last few seasons...

Anyhow, back to the subject at hand.  Prepping!

[Villanelle]

The thing that most concerns me in the UK is the population level and the just-in-time supermarket system. The UK as a whole imports something like 40% of its food, I'm sure I read somewhere. I'm trying to learn how to garden, because while I don't think it's likely in the immediate future, I could definitely see some sort of food supply issue happening within the next 50 years if some sort of world war or climate disaster interrupted world food trade.

Gardening can offset even more mundane food supply issues than war and natural disaster. Although I live in the world's grain basket, there's snow cover for half of the year, so much produce is trucked and flown in from more temperate areas. Produce prices soared about a decade ago when oil prices rose, and they didn't abate when oil sank. With a 250 sqft garden, I provide myself, my mom and stepfather with as many veg as we want (minus onions, which I've had no luck in growing). I preserve a good deal of it, and store the remainder in a chest freezer. While a power outage would put the freezer stores in jeopardy, I mostly rely on the freezer supply over the winter, and then I could store things in the snow if needed.

It's a powerful feeling to be able to scoff at a $4 bundle of kale in the store, knowing that I have 50lbs of it at home. I'm a big fan of the 'food not lawns' movement, and highly recommend it to anyone with a permissive climate and corner of land.

I'm in no position now to garden at all, living in military housing where I'm not allowed to plant anything beyond a few small pots on my patio.  But someday, I hope to be able to have a medium sized garden and then learn to preserve basics.  It appeals to me not from a prepping standpoint, but simply from a "want to be able to do things and be more self-sufficient, just for the satisfaction" standpoint.  If it makes my family more ready to withstand difficulties, all the better. 

[Syonyk]

Careful.

Once you taste garden fresh, store bought just tastes bland.

[kimmarg]

I'm in no position now to garden at all, living in military housing where I'm not allowed to plant anything beyond a few small pots on my patio. 

You never know until you ask! The post I used to work at as a civilian started a community garden area so people who lived in gov housing could garden. It was initiated by some of the residents.

[diapasoun]

The thing that most concerns me in the UK is the population level and the just-in-time supermarket system. The UK as a whole imports something like 40% of its food, I'm sure I read somewhere. I'm trying to learn how to garden, because while I don't think it's likely in the immediate future, I could definitely see some sort of food supply issue happening within the next 50 years if some sort of world war or climate disaster interrupted world food trade.

Gardening can offset even more mundane food supply issues than war and natural disaster. Although I live in the world's grain basket, there's snow cover for half of the year, so much produce is trucked and flown in from more temperate areas. Produce prices soared about a decade ago when oil prices rose, and they didn't abate when oil sank. With a 250 sqft garden, I provide myself, my mom and stepfather with as many veg as we want (minus onions, which I've had no luck in growing). I preserve a good deal of it, and store the remainder in a chest freezer. While a power outage would put the freezer stores in jeopardy, I mostly rely on the freezer supply over the winter, and then I could store things in the snow if needed.

It's a powerful feeling to be able to scoff at a $4 bundle of kale in the store, knowing that I have 50lbs of it at home. I'm a big fan of the 'food not lawns' movement, and highly recommend it to anyone with a permissive climate and corner of land.

Yes! I live in a HCOL area and just got permission from my landlord to convert about 75 sq ft of our yard into gardening space. We have year round gardening capability, so I'm extremely excited that we can at least cut down on some of our food burden, and I can expand my skills from houseplants and potted tomatoes to some more serious gardening.

[Dexterous]

The ONLY thing we need to worry about is a Nuclear exchanged..... start supporting leadership which supports ridding the world of these weapons.   

I agree about supporting leadership with that vision.

My opinion is that New START needs to be extended and further reductions made, and tactical weapons should be removed from many areas.  Allowing "conversions" of nuclear bombers to conventional is also stupid in the current treaty.

[cerat0n1a]

I’m not so confident that climate change won’t have serious economic effects in the US.

There are places where it clearly will have some effect (Florida, Alaska for example.)

It could be argued that the conflicts in Libya & Syria have their roots in climate change - in both cases drought & crop failures were at least a partial cause of war. People don't tend to sit quietly in place and die when things like water and food get scarce. The US may be far away from badly affected places, but refugees/ migrants have access to boats and planes these days.