@sui generis The discussion is great! After all, if we can't have a polite open discussion here, where can we have it? Most people in real life don't want to talk about it, so it's good to share in the conversation, at least here. :)
Regarding plant-based milk consistency, if you make it yourself, you can control the body of your beverage with the amount of water. For instance the ratio of 1:3 of nuts/oats to water should give a nicer body and taste to 1:4, a more diluted version. Plus, you can control the sweetness or lack of sweetness, which is great if you can't seem to find unsweetened plant-based milk for some reason. You could also give macadamia milk (brand - Milkadamia) a try if you haven't yet. I really enjoy that as part of my rotation. Lastly, you may consider 'barista blend' of any plant-based milks. These are specifically made to have a thicker, creamier body which is used to produced creamier/foamier plant-based lattes, but there's no reason why you can't just drink it straight up or substitute for any other use.
@Calimerostache Our grocery bill significantly reduced from over $700 a month (pretty excessive!) as omnivores to between $276-$400 per month (or $69 to $100 a week) as a household of two adult plant-based eaters, depending on if we need to restock something. We don't buy a ton of pre-made products, and we do prefer to get better quality produce. Maybe the level of savings is not impressive to some people but we refuse to cut too many corners in our diet because it's not worth it, and it'd definitely be lower if we never bought kombucha and wine. It's easier to have a cheaper budget sometimes depending on where you shop and if you consume more grains than anything else. I consider our diets to be skewed slightly more on the 'luxury' side, though, and I am very big on cooking and baking and don't think it's a chore. To be honest, I never had too much luck with Safeway produce, so that's a big reason, so others maybe have better luck depending on their local options. Farmers markets tend to be cheaper. We don't buy meat alternatives but sometimes like to get the impossible meat/beyond burger if we're going to make a burger.
@FIRE_at_45 I'm surprised the vital wheat gluten is almost $12! The normal going rate here is $6 for the same bag - brand and size. I haven't found another source yet, unfortunately. That recipe sounds interesting - thanks for sharing! I've been wanting to try making something similar - maple sausages, like how they have those tiny sausages that are sweet for American breakfast. Usually I keep the seitan pretty simple though and just pan-fry them - they're really chicken like. Next time I make them, I'm going to shape them into little balls to make something that is like Taiwanese basil chicken. Looooved that stuff so much. I have also had good luck with making "pepperoni" for pizza with vital wheat gluten.
Someone mentioned missing chocolate croissants, and it reminded me it's something I still need to try baking! I've generally had a lot of success with plant-based baking so I expect this will be good. Here is a recipe I intend to try:
https://heartofabaker.com/vegan-chocolate-crossaints/I am also planning on making doughnuts sometime. :)
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This post is getting really long but I wanted to share my planned meals this week. I spent under $70 yesterday to replenish some produce and stuff and here's some dishes we've been eating. There's kind of an Italian theme going on.
- Homemade pizza, about 14" diameter, using the second half of the dough we made a few days prior. Costs around $8.82 per pizza. Pretty sweet deal, considering take-out pizza can be as much as 4x the cost and you still have to tip and pay taxes on it, lol. Topped with homemade marinara, vegan mozzarella, artichoke hearts, kalamata olives, sun-dried tomatoes, and fresh basil. Very savory. Very good. Try this combo next time you make pizza, guys! This is the pizza dough. For best texture, do *not* substitute with all-purpose flour! :)
https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/bobby-flay/pizza-dough-recipe-1921714- Focaccia with rosemary. So good, easy, and CHEAP. Consume with oil and vinegar. :) here's a recipe if you guys want to try it:
https://www.onceuponachef.com/recipes/rosemary-focaccia.html^ Focaccia can also be topped and baked with various things, if you didn't know!
- Spaghetti with homemade marinara with mushroom 'meatballs' and small roasted cubes of Italian eggplant. Husband really liked the 'meatballs.' Topped with extra vegan parmesan and italian parsley. Served with red wine. :)
Other planned meals:
- Pasta alla norma... I'll probably add zucchini to this, though:
https://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Saveur-100-2011-Pasta-Alla-Norma-Pasta-with-Tomato-Sauce-and-Eggplant/- Kale salad. Made this before and it's been my favorite salad for a while:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOQyIzuu8Y4- Eggplant parmiagiana. The version you layer/build up many eggplant slices in a pan, not just slicing a thick piece of eggplant and putting stuff on top.
- Chickpea vegetable soup. Probably eat it with the focaccia. Similar to this recipe except I'll be using kale and not chard as the recipe says since that's what I bought this week and I'll add oyster mushrooms and no potatoes:
https://www.tastymediterraneo.com/mediterranean-chickpea-vegetable-stew/- Homemade naan w/ cilantro lime rice with chickpeas and peas.
- Black bean brownies.
- Tofu scramble with baked sweet potato.