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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1350 on: February 17, 2022, 04:34:40 PM »
As he's not a Saudi Crown Prince, he doesn't have that much affect on gas or NG prices on the world market.

No, but he can fly to COP26 to beg for more oil:
“If you look up cognitive dissonance in the dictionary, you’ll see a picture of Joe Biden at COP26 in Glasgow saying, ‘Oh, by the way, OPEC, we want more oil to bring prices down,’ while pledging to reduce fossil fuel consumption in the long run, - Marketplace: Oil supply may finally catch up with demand. But what about emissions?

Find me a Republican than wants an honest to god carbon tax and I'll vote for them.

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« Reply #1351 on: February 17, 2022, 04:41:38 PM »
You seem to have forgotten that Biden signed orders on his first day in office to kill oil & natural gas pipeline deals.  The USA was the largest oil producer in the world under Trump.  Sorry, that is a fact.  Sleepy Joe decided that was a bad thing.  And we are all paying the price for it.  The USA was THE largest provider of oil in the world under Trump.

The US is still the world's top oil producer, per https://www.investopedia.com/investing/worlds-top-oil-producers/.

Keystone would have come online in 2023 so it wouldn't have changed oil prices in 2021 or 2022. The L3RP pipeline started flowing in September and it meets all of Alberta's current needs. TMPL also should come online before 2023, providing room for growth.

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The southern border is open. 

Wait...do you mean "open" meaning the bridges/border crossings are open? Well, yes. They still check documents on the bridges though.


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And it is very interesting that violent crime is running rampant in cities that are under the control of woke district attorneys.  Take a look at LA, San Francisco, Chicago. New York, et al.    Why do you think that is?

The same reason it went up in Birmingham, Spokane, Warren, and Jackson. Hell, the Jackson DA was appointed by the MS Governor who's as woke as a hibernating bear.

To put it another way, it's obviously more complicated than "democrats like crime" or whatever fantasy you're being fed but I'm glad we've moved on from "It's Biden's fault!"

Here are some theories about the increase in violent crime.

https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/2020-08-06/4-theories-about-why-homicides-are-spiking-in-us-cities

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1352 on: February 17, 2022, 04:44:21 PM »
As he's not a Saudi Crown Prince, he doesn't have that much affect on gas or NG prices on the world market.

No, but he can fly to COP26 to beg for more oil:
“If you look up cognitive dissonance in the dictionary, you’ll see a picture of Joe Biden at COP26 in Glasgow saying, ‘Oh, by the way, OPEC, we want more oil to bring prices down,’ while pledging to reduce fossil fuel consumption in the long run, - Marketplace: Oil supply may finally catch up with demand. But what about emissions?

Find me a Republican than wants an honest to god carbon tax and I'll vote for them.

Biden is nothing more than a corporatist who has always voted in the middle of the Democratic party. We knew that when he was running.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1353 on: February 17, 2022, 04:53:05 PM »
As he's not a Saudi Crown Prince, he doesn't have that much affect on gas or NG prices on the world market.

No, but he can fly to COP26 to beg for more oil:
“If you look up cognitive dissonance in the dictionary, you’ll see a picture of Joe Biden at COP26 in Glasgow saying, ‘Oh, by the way, OPEC, we want more oil to bring prices down,’ while pledging to reduce fossil fuel consumption in the long run, - Marketplace: Oil supply may finally catch up with demand. But what about emissions?

Find me a Republican than wants an honest to god carbon tax and I'll vote for them.

Biden is nothing more than a corporatist who has always voted in the middle of the Democratic party. We knew that when he was running.

Exactly. Like… we know???

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1354 on: February 17, 2022, 05:01:04 PM »
Tell me more about why America is worse off with Biden. Anyone.

Inflation at a 40 year high, gasoline at multi-decade highs, natural gas (heating bills) up dramatically, violent crime up dramatically in major cities, a completely open southern border, Russia preparing to invade Ukraine.

Have you not noticed any of that?  Seriously?

Did I answer your question?

If only Biden had started building new semiconductor plants in 2017.

What do semiconductor plants have to do with the price of gasoline?  And natural gas?  And inflation overall?  And our southern border being overrun by illegal immigants?  Please be specific.  Thanks!

I was too obscure.

Biden can't command TSMC to build semiconductor plants.

As he's not a Saudi Crown Prince, he doesn't have that much affect on gas or NG prices on the world market.

He can't insta-lower inflation in England, Canada, Germany, or in the US. It's also extremely unlikely that he caused worldwide inflation in the first place.

We are seeing increased violent crime, and it's a problem, but the former President didn't use his magic wand in 2020 to fix it either.

The border is not "completely open."

You seem to have forgotten that Biden signed orders on his first day in office to kill oil & natural gas pipeline deals.  The USA was the largest oil producer in the world under Trump.  Sorry, that is a fact.  Sleepy Joe decided that was a bad thing.  And we are all paying the price for it.  The USA was THE largest provider of oil in the world under Trump.

The southern border is open.  And the best part?  When the illegal aliens cross the border the Federal government pays to fly them to other states.  Oh yes, that is happening.  (I hope I didn't offend you by using the legally correct term "illegal aliens").

And it is very interesting that violent crime is running rampant in cities that are under the control of woke district attorneys.  Take a look at LA, San Francisco, Chicago. New York, et al.    Why do you think that is?

Could you please make an effort to organize your grievances in a coherent way and, particularly, one thing at a time.
I get it that you are upset, but the best way to deal with that is to step back and to get organized somewhat. Sometimes that helps in getting one´s bearings without even resorting to internet counseling. Throwing shit at the fan just is not the best strategy if one wants to get better - and that is a proven fact.
Of course, I´m giving you the benefit of doubt, because you might just want to waste everybody´s time here.
If that is the case, you should probably just move on and regurgitate your unoriginal boilerplate material somewhere else.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1355 on: February 17, 2022, 05:10:53 PM »
As he's not a Saudi Crown Prince, he doesn't have that much affect on gas or NG prices on the world market.

No, but he can fly to COP26 to beg for more oil:
“If you look up cognitive dissonance in the dictionary, you’ll see a picture of Joe Biden at COP26 in Glasgow saying, ‘Oh, by the way, OPEC, we want more oil to bring prices down,’ while pledging to reduce fossil fuel consumption in the long run, - Marketplace: Oil supply may finally catch up with demand. But what about emissions?

Find me a Republican than wants an honest to god carbon tax and I'll vote for them.

Biden is nothing more than a corporatist who has always voted in the middle of the Democratic party. We knew that when he was running.

Perhaps I knew that he was "a corporatist who has always voted in the middle of the Democratic party." But he ran on a platform of rejoining the Paris Agreement, singed an executive order about it on his very first day in office, and then proceeded to get nothing done towards those goals. Less than one year later he's begging foreign leaders for more oil and releasing oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. Call me gullible, but this isn't what I had in mind when I voted for him. It doesn't paint the party in a good light.
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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1356 on: February 17, 2022, 05:34:29 PM »
Tell me more about why America is worse off with Biden. Anyone.

Inflation at a 40 year high, gasoline at multi-decade highs, natural gas (heating bills) up dramatically, violent crime up dramatically in major cities, a completely open southern border, Russia preparing to invade Ukraine.

Have you not noticed any of that?  Seriously?

Did I answer your question?

If only Biden had started building new semiconductor plants in 2017.

What do semiconductor plants have to do with the price of gasoline?  And natural gas?  And inflation overall?  And our southern border being overrun by illegal immigants?  Please be specific.  Thanks!

I was too obscure.

Biden can't command TSMC to build semiconductor plants.

As he's not a Saudi Crown Prince, he doesn't have that much affect on gas or NG prices on the world market.

He can't insta-lower inflation in England, Canada, Germany, or in the US. It's also extremely unlikely that he caused worldwide inflation in the first place.

We are seeing increased violent crime, and it's a problem, but the former President didn't use his magic wand in 2020 to fix it either.

The border is not "completely open."

You seem to have forgotten that Biden signed orders on his first day in office to kill oil & natural gas pipeline deals.  The USA was the largest oil producer in the world under Trump.  Sorry, that is a fact.  Sleepy Joe decided that was a bad thing.  And we are all paying the price for it.  The USA was THE largest provider of oil in the world under Trump.

The southern border is open.  And the best part?  When the illegal aliens cross the border the Federal government pays to fly them to other states.  Oh yes, that is happening.  (I hope I didn't offend you by using the legally correct term "illegal aliens").

And it is very interesting that violent crime is running rampant in cities that are under the control of woke district attorneys.  Take a look at LA, San Francisco, Chicago. New York, et al.    Why do you think that is?

Could you please make an effort to organize your grievances in a coherent way and, particularly, one thing at a time.
I get it that you are upset, but the best way to deal with that is to step back and to get organized somewhat. Sometimes that helps in getting one´s bearings without even resorting to internet counseling. Throwing shit at the fan just is not the best strategy if one wants to get better - and that is a proven fact.
Of course, I´m giving you the benefit of doubt, because you might just want to waste everybody´s time here.
If that is the case, you should probably just move on and regurgitate your unoriginal boilerplate material somewhere else.

I did.  You are playing the Democrat's playbook of accusing the other side of what you are guilty.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1357 on: February 17, 2022, 05:43:06 PM »
@retiringearly

Have you read the court filings? Can you cite where they say Hillary Clinton spied on Trump?

What about the special counsel's filings are worrying? Be specific, please, and quote from the filings.

The claims that you made however ("Hillary Clinton spied on a sitting US President"), are baseless, partisan lies.  If you can provide quotes from the court filings that prove your statement, I'll be happy to withdraw my comment and apologize though.

?????

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1358 on: February 17, 2022, 05:53:47 PM »
Tell me more about why America is worse off with Biden. Anyone.

Inflation at a 40 year high, gasoline at multi-decade highs, natural gas (heating bills) up dramatically, violent crime up dramatically in major cities, a completely open southern border, Russia preparing to invade Ukraine.

Have you not noticed any of that?  Seriously?

Did I answer your question?

If only Biden had started building new semiconductor plants in 2017.

What do semiconductor plants have to do with the price of gasoline?  And natural gas?  And inflation overall?  And our southern border being overrun by illegal immigants?  Please be specific.  Thanks!

I was too obscure.

Biden can't command TSMC to build semiconductor plants.

As he's not a Saudi Crown Prince, he doesn't have that much affect on gas or NG prices on the world market.

He can't insta-lower inflation in England, Canada, Germany, or in the US. It's also extremely unlikely that he caused worldwide inflation in the first place.

We are seeing increased violent crime, and it's a problem, but the former President didn't use his magic wand in 2020 to fix it either.

The border is not "completely open."

You seem to have forgotten that Biden signed orders on his first day in office to kill oil & natural gas pipeline deals.  The USA was the largest oil producer in the world under Trump.  Sorry, that is a fact.  Sleepy Joe decided that was a bad thing.  And we are all paying the price for it.  The USA was THE largest provider of oil in the world under Trump.

The southern border is open.  And the best part?  When the illegal aliens cross the border the Federal government pays to fly them to other states.  Oh yes, that is happening.  (I hope I didn't offend you by using the legally correct term "illegal aliens").

And it is very interesting that violent crime is running rampant in cities that are under the control of woke district attorneys.  Take a look at LA, San Francisco, Chicago. New York, et al.    Why do you think that is?

Could you please make an effort to organize your grievances in a coherent way and, particularly, one thing at a time.
I get it that you are upset, but the best way to deal with that is to step back and to get organized somewhat. Sometimes that helps in getting one´s bearings without even resorting to internet counseling. Throwing shit at the fan just is not the best strategy if one wants to get better - and that is a proven fact.
Of course, I´m giving you the benefit of doubt, because you might just want to waste everybody´s time here.
If that is the case, you should probably just move on and regurgitate your unoriginal boilerplate material somewhere else.

I did.  You are playing the Democrat's playbook of accusing the other side of what you are guilty.

So you are accusing me to waste your time?

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1359 on: February 17, 2022, 06:07:49 PM »

I did.  You are playing the Democrat's playbook of accusing the other side of what you are guilty.


You are exactly right, but at least it removes the suspense. From my simple minded seat, I just imagine some posters almost foaming at the mouth attacking the keyboard.

I don’t regret any votes. I wish some more local folks would act a bit differently, but so it goes with politicians.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1361 on: February 17, 2022, 06:35:50 PM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

Instead of just posting links without offering any explanation, do you want to offer some thoughts about one first?

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1362 on: February 17, 2022, 06:50:31 PM »

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1363 on: February 18, 2022, 05:44:49 AM »

Is that supposed to be a reading assignment or what?

“Given that your claims are baseless and founded in partisan lies pushed by the Republican party to keep their supporters ignorant and angry, do you regret voting Republican?“

You are saying the special counsel’s court filings are baseless?  Seriously?

By the way, citing Vanity Fair is about as ridiculous as citing The National Enquirer.

No, I don’t regret voting Republican.  And seeing how much worse off the US is under Biden I would like to think any rational person would regret voting for him.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-enquirer/

Baseless false equivalencies hurt everyone.

Yeah, those come up from time to time.


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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1364 on: February 18, 2022, 08:11:47 AM »

Is that supposed to be a reading assignment or what?

“Given that your claims are baseless and founded in partisan lies pushed by the Republican party to keep their supporters ignorant and angry, do you regret voting Republican?“

You are saying the special counsel’s court filings are baseless?  Seriously?

By the way, citing Vanity Fair is about as ridiculous as citing The National Enquirer.

No, I don’t regret voting Republican.  And seeing how much worse off the US is under Biden I would like to think any rational person would regret voting for him.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-enquirer/

Baseless false equivalencies hurt everyone.

Yeah, those come up from time to time.

One post was 15 non-sequitur links better suited to an echo forum; the other was 2 links relating to the replied-to post.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1365 on: February 18, 2022, 08:12:21 AM »

Is that supposed to be a reading assignment or what?

“Given that your claims are baseless and founded in partisan lies pushed by the Republican party to keep their supporters ignorant and angry, do you regret voting Republican?“

You are saying the special counsel’s court filings are baseless?  Seriously?

By the way, citing Vanity Fair is about as ridiculous as citing The National Enquirer.

No, I don’t regret voting Republican.  And seeing how much worse off the US is under Biden I would like to think any rational person would regret voting for him.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-enquirer/

Baseless false equivalencies hurt everyone.

Yeah, those come up from time to time.

One post was 15 non-sequitur links better suited to an echo forum; the other was 2 links related to the thread.


Retiringearly posted the 15 non-sequitur links after he was caught spreading partisan lies with no basis in reality:
Given that Hillary Clinton spied on a sitting US President, does anyone regret voting Democrat?

Serious question.  What she did was worse than Watergate.

I am interested to see if anybody is honest enough to admit it.


Given how poorly the direct lies worked in discussion, retiringearly seems to have switched instead to an obfuscation tactic.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1366 on: February 18, 2022, 09:10:45 AM »
“Given that your claims are baseless and founded in partisan lies pushed by the Republican party to keep their supporters ignorant and angry, do you regret voting Republican?“

You are saying the special counsel’s court filings are baseless?  Seriously?

By the way, citing Vanity Fair is about as ridiculous as citing The National Enquirer.

No, I don’t regret voting Republican.  And seeing how much worse off the US is under Biden I would like to think any rational person would regret voting for him.

Yes, the special counsel's (Durham) claims are baseless.
Go read the Empty Wheel blog if you'd like to actually learn something.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1367 on: February 18, 2022, 09:14:36 AM »

Is that supposed to be a reading assignment or what?

“Given that your claims are baseless and founded in partisan lies pushed by the Republican party to keep their supporters ignorant and angry, do you regret voting Republican?“

You are saying the special counsel’s court filings are baseless?  Seriously?

By the way, citing Vanity Fair is about as ridiculous as citing The National Enquirer.

No, I don’t regret voting Republican.  And seeing how much worse off the US is under Biden I would like to think any rational person would regret voting for him.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vanity-fair/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-enquirer/

Baseless false equivalencies hurt everyone.

Yeah, those come up from time to time.

One post was 15 non-sequitur links better suited to an echo forum; the other was 2 links related to the thread.


Retiringearly posted the 15 non-sequitur links after he was caught spreading partisan lies with no basis in reality:
Given that Hillary Clinton spied on a sitting US President, does anyone regret voting Democrat?

Serious question.  What she did was worse than Watergate.

I am interested to see if anybody is honest enough to admit it.


Given how poorly the direct lies worked in discussion, retiringearly seems to have switched instead to an obfuscation tactic.

It's the link list version of a Gish gallop.



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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1370 on: February 18, 2022, 05:18:55 PM »
He seems to not know many facts.  Is he in fact...senile?  Do you regret voting for him?  He comes off like a buffoon.

https://youtu.be/ryQPhKxJudo

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1371 on: February 18, 2022, 05:20:29 PM »
Surely, your attention span can watch 4:59 of Joe Biden's lies:

https://youtu.be/mCJMF7mflGE

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« Reply #1372 on: February 18, 2022, 05:21:37 PM »
He seems to not know many facts.  Is he in fact...senile?  Do you regret voting for him?  He comes off like a buffoon.

https://youtu.be/ryQPhKxJudo

If you were not concerned with Trump’s mental state — and I am guessing you weren’t — then this is laughable.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1373 on: February 18, 2022, 05:22:33 PM »
Lies, plagiarism in law school.  Oh, whatever, what difference does it make now???

(Sorry, I quoted Hillary without giving her credit there).

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« Reply #1374 on: February 18, 2022, 05:23:44 PM »
Lies, plagiarism in law school.  Oh, whatever, what difference does it make now???

(Sorry, I quoted Hillary without giving her credit there).

Yeah. Still not concerned with Trump, I see.


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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1375 on: February 18, 2022, 05:24:15 PM »
By the way, how does he have more hair on his head in 2022 than he had in 1985? 

Is it a miracle???

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« Reply #1376 on: February 18, 2022, 05:27:23 PM »
By the way, how does he have more hair on his head in 2022 than he had in 1985? 

Is it a miracle???

Are…

Are you really talking about Biden’s hair?

When Trump…

I mean… Trump’s…

*laughs in Trump’s cotton candy piss hair*

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1377 on: February 18, 2022, 05:44:17 PM »
By the way, how does he have more hair on his head in 2022 than he had in 1985? 

Is it a miracle???

Are…

Are you really talking about Biden’s hair?

When Trump…

I mean… Trump’s…

*laughs in Trump’s cotton candy piss hair*

Well, one of the two has hair that he was born with (it is a weird hairdo, but it is hair).  The other paid a doctor to replant hair on his head.  And you are laughing at the natural hair?  Hmmm.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1378 on: February 18, 2022, 05:45:46 PM »
Lies, plagiarism in law school.  Oh, whatever, what difference does it make now???

(Sorry, I quoted Hillary without giving her credit there).

Yeah. Still not concerned with Trump, I see.

Why would I, or anyone be concerned with Trump?  He is no longer POTUS.  Lying Joe Biden is.  Why aren;t you concerned with Lyin' Biden?

Are  you still ridin' with Lyin' Joe Biden?

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« Reply #1379 on: February 18, 2022, 05:56:43 PM »
By the way, how does he have more hair on his head in 2022 than he had in 1985? 

Is it a miracle???

Are…

Are you really talking about Biden’s hair?

When Trump…

I mean… Trump’s…

*laughs in Trump’s cotton candy piss hair*

Well, one of the two has hair that he was born with (it is a weird hairdo, but it is hair).  The other paid a doctor to replant hair on his head.  And you are laughing at the natural hair?  Hmmm.

https://www.treatmentroomslondon.com/celebrity-hair-transplant/what-type-of-hair-transplant-has-donald-trump-had/

Also, though, as far as I can tell, someone’s amount of hair does not determine someone’s fitness for office.

A bald president or a president with a toupee could in theory be very competent.

So, why are you so fixated on something so shallow? It seems odd. Especially because Trump was so fixated on his own hair, to the exclusion of actual governance.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1380 on: February 18, 2022, 06:45:46 PM »
By the way, how does he have more hair on his head in 2022 than he had in 1985? 

Is it a miracle???

Are…

Are you really talking about Biden’s hair?

When Trump…

I mean… Trump’s…

*laughs in Trump’s cotton candy piss hair*

Well, one of the two has hair that he was born with (it is a weird hairdo, but it is hair).  The other paid a doctor to replant hair on his head.  And you are laughing at the natural hair?  Hmmm.

https://www.treatmentroomslondon.com/celebrity-hair-transplant/what-type-of-hair-transplant-has-donald-trump-had/

Also, though, as far as I can tell, someone’s amount of hair does not determine someone’s fitness for office.

A bald president or a president with a toupee could in theory be very competent.

So, why are you so fixated on something so shallow? It seems odd. Especially because Trump was so fixated on his own hair, to the exclusion of actual governance.

Nah, there is no fixation here but a weird attempt to keep a conversation going while spamming the place with searchable terms.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1381 on: February 18, 2022, 07:09:59 PM »
Nah, there is no fixation here but a weird attempt to keep a conversation going while spamming the place with searchable terms.

That's a good point. I'd suggest ignoring the troll but if their posts are meant to attract more trolls...

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« Reply #1382 on: February 18, 2022, 07:19:33 PM »
By the way, how does he have more hair on his head in 2022 than he had in 1985? 

Is it a miracle???

Are…

Are you really talking about Biden’s hair?

When Trump…

I mean… Trump’s…

*laughs in Trump’s cotton candy piss hair*

Well, one of the two has hair that he was born with (it is a weird hairdo, but it is hair).  The other paid a doctor to replant hair on his head.  And you are laughing at the natural hair?  Hmmm.

https://www.treatmentroomslondon.com/celebrity-hair-transplant/what-type-of-hair-transplant-has-donald-trump-had/

Also, though, as far as I can tell, someone’s amount of hair does not determine someone’s fitness for office.

A bald president or a president with a toupee could in theory be very competent.

So, why are you so fixated on something so shallow? It seems odd. Especially because Trump was so fixated on his own hair, to the exclusion of actual governance.

Nah, there is no fixation here but a weird attempt to keep a conversation going while spamming the place with searchable terms.

True. I don’t know why I try to engage honestly.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1383 on: February 18, 2022, 07:35:19 PM »
Nah, there is no fixation here but a weird attempt to keep a conversation going while spamming the place with searchable terms.

That's a good point. I'd suggest ignoring the troll but if their posts are meant to attract more trolls...

But can you practice what you preach? I scrolled back to see who first pounced on this retiringearly most recent posting blast, and there you were, just a couple posts down. Then after a bunch of posts you then call 'troll'. Retiringearly isn’t new, hasn’t changed.

And of course, obviously, there are others who can’t possibly resist…and would also be worthy of being called a troll.


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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1384 on: February 18, 2022, 08:07:56 PM »
Nah, there is no fixation here but a weird attempt to keep a conversation going while spamming the place with searchable terms.

That's a good point. I'd suggest ignoring the troll but if their posts are meant to attract more trolls...

But can you practice what you preach? I scrolled back to see who first pounced on this retiringearly most recent posting blast, and there you were, just a couple posts down. Then after a bunch of posts you then call 'troll'. Retiringearly isn’t new, hasn’t changed.

I apologize about not recognizing Retiringearly but I can't keep every poster in my head. Thanks for reminding me to keep my forum poster spreadsheet updated!

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1385 on: February 19, 2022, 02:47:53 AM »
Can I just ask, before the subject gets lost:

1.  Do you now agree that there are no facts supporting the allegation that Hillary Clinton spied on a sitting US President?

2.  Will you now look more critically at information from the sources that provided you with that allegation?


Given that Hillary Clinton spied on a sitting US President, does anyone regret voting Democrat?

Serious question.  What she did was worse than Watergate.

I am interested to see if anybody is honest enough to admit it.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1386 on: February 19, 2022, 01:16:31 PM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1895156_1894977_1895081,00.html

https://apnews.com/article/cd977f7ff301993f7976974ba07c5495

https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/bidens-obsessive-lies-small-and-large-are-big-trouble-for-america/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/01/bidens-big-elections-lie/

https://nypost.com/2021/12/28/voters-see-through-bidens-lies-and-other-commentary/

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/07/03/curley-joe-biden-insulting-americans-with-low-quality-lies/

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2021/09/30/president-bidens-promises-turning-into-lies/5918848001/

https://www.nvdaily.com/nvdaily/commentary-joe-biden-is-lying-to-us/article_5d9a614b-18a9-5574-8bf0-c937a2a8c8b0.html

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/572189-why-isnt-it-a-lie-when-joe-biden-says-something-false-or-dishonest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=L-khU2gYKxo

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bidens-loads-of-little-lies-are-finally-catching-up-with-him

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-defeat-lies-presidency-crisis-1627349

https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/12-times-joe-biden-completely-made-up-stories-lied-or-said-something-crazy/

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/joe-bidens-big-lie/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/joe-biden-and-the-lie/
I don't know why you post this on this extreme leftist site. They are just going to attack you.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1387 on: February 19, 2022, 02:15:21 PM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

[snip]
I don't know why you post this on this extreme leftist site. They are just going to attack you.

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"Extreme leftist"?  This paean to the benefits of investing in private enterprise and the 4% rule?  Do please explain how in any universe that is "extreme leftist".

Socially somewhat liberal? Mostly yes, I grant you.  But these days that's hardly leftist, it's just the modern version of good manners not to diss individuals because of their race, sex or sexuality.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1388 on: February 19, 2022, 04:45:17 PM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1895156_1894977_1895081,00.html

https://apnews.com/article/cd977f7ff301993f7976974ba07c5495

https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/bidens-obsessive-lies-small-and-large-are-big-trouble-for-america/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/01/bidens-big-elections-lie/

https://nypost.com/2021/12/28/voters-see-through-bidens-lies-and-other-commentary/

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/07/03/curley-joe-biden-insulting-americans-with-low-quality-lies/

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2021/09/30/president-bidens-promises-turning-into-lies/5918848001/

https://www.nvdaily.com/nvdaily/commentary-joe-biden-is-lying-to-us/article_5d9a614b-18a9-5574-8bf0-c937a2a8c8b0.html

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/572189-why-isnt-it-a-lie-when-joe-biden-says-something-false-or-dishonest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=L-khU2gYKxo

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bidens-loads-of-little-lies-are-finally-catching-up-with-him

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-defeat-lies-presidency-crisis-1627349

https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/12-times-joe-biden-completely-made-up-stories-lied-or-said-something-crazy/

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/joe-bidens-big-lie/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/joe-biden-and-the-lie/
I don't know why you post this on this extreme leftist site. They are just going to attack you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph-CA_tu5KA


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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1389 on: February 19, 2022, 05:11:42 PM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

[snip]
I don't know why you post this on this extreme leftist site. They are just going to attack you.

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"Extreme leftist"?  This paean to the benefits of investing in private enterprise and the 4% rule?  Do please explain how in any universe that is "extreme leftist".

Socially somewhat liberal? Mostly yes, I grant you.  But these days that's hardly leftist, it's just the modern version of good manners not to diss individuals because of their race, sex or sexuality.

I mean, when people use terms like “leftist”, “communist”, or “socialist” and make it clear they have basically no idea what those terms mean, at least they are doing you a favor by signaling that you shouldn’t bother to pay attention to them…

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1390 on: February 19, 2022, 05:28:16 PM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

[snip]
I don't know why you post this on this extreme leftist site. They are just going to attack you.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

"Extreme leftist"?  This paean to the benefits of investing in private enterprise and the 4% rule?  Do please explain how in any universe that is "extreme leftist".

Socially somewhat liberal? Mostly yes, I grant you.  But these days that's hardly leftist, it's just the modern version of good manners not to diss individuals because of their race, sex or sexuality.

I mean, when people use terms like “leftist”, “communist”, or “socialist” and make it clear they have basically no idea what those terms mean, at least they are doing you a favor by signaling that you shouldn’t bother to pay attention to them…
I thought possibly also an attempt by Nate79 to bury the questions I asked of @retiringearly.  But they are still there, waiting for an answer.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1391 on: February 20, 2022, 12:16:15 AM »
I regret after being a lifelong Republican, having to vote for Democrats, because my party went to shit.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1392 on: February 20, 2022, 05:59:47 AM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

[snip]
I don't know why you post this on this extreme leftist site. They are just going to attack you.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

"Extreme leftist"?  This paean to the benefits of investing in private enterprise and the 4% rule?  Do please explain how in any universe that is "extreme leftist".

Socially somewhat liberal? Mostly yes, I grant you.  But these days that's hardly leftist, it's just the modern version of good manners not to diss individuals because of their race, sex or sexuality.

I mean, when people use terms like “leftist”, “communist”, or “socialist” and make it clear they have basically no idea what those terms mean, at least they are doing you a favor by signaling that you shouldn’t bother to pay attention to them…
I thought possibly also an attempt by Nate79 to bury the questions I asked of @retiringearly.  But they are still there, waiting for an answer.

And there they will sit, probably indefinitely.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1393 on: February 20, 2022, 10:27:51 AM »
It is wonderful having a POTUS that is a chronic liar.  Does Joe even KNOW when he is lying at this point?

[snip]
I don't know why you post this on this extreme leftist site. They are just going to attack you.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

"Extreme leftist"?  This paean to the benefits of investing in private enterprise and the 4% rule?  Do please explain how in any universe that is "extreme leftist".

Socially somewhat liberal? Mostly yes, I grant you.  But these days that's hardly leftist, it's just the modern version of good manners not to diss individuals because of their race, sex or sexuality.

I mean, when people use terms like “leftist”, “communist”, or “socialist” and make it clear they have basically no idea what those terms mean, at least they are doing you a favor by signaling that you shouldn’t bother to pay attention to them…
I thought possibly also an attempt by Nate79 to bury the questions I asked of @retiringearly.  But they are still there, waiting for an answer.

And there they will sit, probably indefinitely.

No need for answers, we already know how most would respond to answers, definitely.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1394 on: February 20, 2022, 11:25:13 AM »
@JoePublic3.14 @Nate79

retiringearly revived this thread with a rather serious accusation. They were asked calmly and politely by several posters if they could provide any sort of evidence for that claim.

They have not, and refused to acknowledge every single one of those requests even though they were clearly still active in the thread. I even sent them requests to respond by PM.

You really want to defend that?

If so, do you have any evidence to back up the initial claim?

In case you missed it:

Given that Hillary Clinton spied on a sitting US President, does anyone regret voting Democrat?

Serious question.  What she did was worse than Watergate.

I am interested to see if anybody is honest enough to admit it.

Is anyone honest enough to admit that retiringearly is posting inflammatory lies with no basis?

Personally I think if someone makes a claim like this and refuses to back it up, no one should bother responding to them until they can provide some evidence or admit they were wrong. If they don't care about evidence or reality, what good can come from debating with them?



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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1395 on: February 20, 2022, 10:58:31 PM »
I'm so happy I don't follow politics anymore.  In fact I hardly watch the news these days.  It's so much more relaxing to go out back on a sunny day and dig in the garden and play with the dog.   Between politics, covid and talks of war.. I get really tired of it and rather not worry.  I still vote for my party, when it comes time, but I don't follow it anymore. They want you glued to the TV set or news websites/apps.. in constant fear.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1396 on: February 21, 2022, 06:08:53 AM »
I'm so happy I don't follow politics anymore.  In fact I hardly watch the news these days.  It's so much more relaxing to go out back on a sunny day and dig in the garden and play with the dog.   Between politics, covid and talks of war.. I get really tired of it and rather not worry.  I still vote for my party, when it comes time, but I don't follow it anymore. They want you glued to the TV set or news websites/apps.. in constant fear.

If you don’t follow your party, how do you know whether you should vote for it when it comes time?

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1397 on: February 21, 2022, 06:31:44 AM »
I'm so happy I don't follow politics anymore.  In fact I hardly watch the news these days.  It's so much more relaxing to go out back on a sunny day and dig in the garden and play with the dog.   Between politics, covid and talks of war.. I get really tired of it and rather not worry.  I still vote for my party, when it comes time, but I don't follow it anymore. They want you glued to the TV set or news websites/apps.. in constant fear.

If you don’t follow your party, how do you know whether you should vote for it when it comes time?

If I watch the news once per year, I'd easily figure that out.  They are so different now it's easy for me to choose.  No thanks to watching depressing news everyday. But whatever floats your boat.

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1398 on: February 21, 2022, 07:25:31 AM »
I'm so happy I don't follow politics anymore.  In fact I hardly watch the news these days.  It's so much more relaxing to go out back on a sunny day and dig in the garden and play with the dog.   Between politics, covid and talks of war.. I get really tired of it and rather not worry.  I still vote for my party, when it comes time, but I don't follow it anymore. They want you glued to the TV set or news websites/apps.. in constant fear.

If you don’t follow your party, how do you know whether you should vote for it when it comes time?

 They are so different now it's easy for me to choose. 

You say you ignore the news except for once per year. What news story that occurred during 2021 led you to believe this?

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Re: Does Anyone Regret Voting Republican?
« Reply #1399 on: February 21, 2022, 01:00:32 PM »
I'm not JenniferW, but I'm pretty much in the same boat.  Here's my political shortlist of things I care about:

* Medicare for All or an equivalent universal healthcare program
* gay marriage
* abortion rights
* trans rights
* climate change
* police reform
* Eliminating tax preparation

I have been a voter for 10 years.  In those ten years, there has not been a single Republican candidate at the national level who has supported any of the issues I care about.  In fact they work actively against them.

On the other side, Democrats support
* gay marriage
* abortion rights
* trans rights

And as far as I can tell no one except a few outliers who caucus with the Democrats actually care about Medicare for All, climate change, and police reform.  Basically no one cares about climate change or tax preparation in a serious way.

So based on that, my political energy is best spent as follows:
* ignoring all daily petty squabbling between parties
* researching the differences between Democrats available on the ballet and choosing the candidates that seem like they can make headway on the things I care about.
* donating money to lobby for M4A and other causes I care about.

It's not that I think Democrats aren't worth investigating.  I do investigate who I am voting for.  It's just not worth my time to investigate every last belief of Republicans if I disagree with their primary positions.  I have paid attention for the last 10 years, I know what they stand for.  This whole idea that if you don't give Republican's 50% of your energy on every issue you're intellectually dishonest is bunk to me.

If the candidate is okay being a part of a party that thinks my gay grandmas shouldn't be married, they're not worth my time.  (The official Republican Party platform STILL lists repealing gay marriage as a goal, in case people pretend the Republicans are past that.)