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Re: Kitchen Remodel. Was it worth it/ how did you pay?
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2022, 03:26:07 PM »
We remodeled the kitchen in our previous house right after we moved in 6 years ago. It had some shitty particle-board cabinets that were falling apart, and it needed an electrical update. Fortunately, the appliances were decent. We replaced all the cabinets and countertops, built new cabinets along a previously blank wall, updated electrical, widened two openings, replaced flooring throughout the kitchen, living room, and hallway, and installed new lighting in the kitchen and living room.

Total cost 6 years ago was just over $40,000. Today, it would probably be a LOT more. I anticipate that we will more than make up the cost of the remodel when we sell the place later this year (though that has more to do with the housing market than the remodel). It could have been cheaper if we had done more of the work ourselves, but we went with a contractor who was able to get the whole thing done in 4 weeks. That was definitely worth it to us.

Was the whole thing worth it? In some ways, yes. The price tag felt like a lot at the time, but the remodel made the whole place much brighter and more functional. It made the kitchen/dining room the center of our home. We thought we were staying there for decades, so we chose tile and countertops that we loved, and the colors brought me joy every day (see attached photo).

We recently had to move for my spouse's work, and we bought a house in the new town. We got a pretty great deal in a crazy housing market. The kitchen is a small galley that had partially good, partially weird DIY remodel from the last homeowner. Since prices keep fluctuating and since it's so difficult to land a good contractor right now, we are planning to live with the weirdness for at least one more year.

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« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2022, 06:55:17 AM »


Was the whole thing worth it? In some ways, yes. The price tag felt like a lot at the time, but the remodel made the whole place much brighter and more functional. It made the kitchen/dining room the center of our home. We thought we were staying there for decades, so we chose tile and countertops that we loved, and the colors brought me joy every day (see attached photo).


Oh I agree that’s a pretty kitchen. I love love love that blue tile!

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« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2022, 09:59:25 AM »
We remodeled the kitchen in our previous house right after we moved in 6 years ago. It had some shitty particle-board cabinets that were falling apart, and it needed an electrical update. Fortunately, the appliances were decent. We replaced all the cabinets and countertops, built new cabinets along a previously blank wall, updated electrical, widened two openings, replaced flooring throughout the kitchen, living room, and hallway, and installed new lighting in the kitchen and living room.
I also love this look! What countertops are those?

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« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2022, 12:01:14 PM »
Aw, thanks. I miss that kitchen. It also had a spectacular view. The black countertops are a pretty basic black granite (I think absolute black?) with a slightly matte finish. The wood section is a cherry butcher block from local cabinet company, who actually didn't do a great job--our contractor had to do a several rounds of sanding to make it look good.

Having lived with both granite and laminate countertops, I'm not sure solid-surface counters are worth the premium. They sure are pretty, but the laminate holds up so well. In the house we rented recently, the 10-year-old laminate still looked brand new.

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« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2022, 12:04:32 PM »
We did our kitchen remodel 2 years ago. Still loving it. Only thing we'd change is a larger island countertop and eventually an induction stove. But we avoided making those purchases to save money.

We made a specific choice to use oak standalone cabinets. This way if the next home owners ever redo it, they're easy to remove and sell in, rather than end up in landfill. This style also has the added benefit of being easier to repaint than flatpack kitchens.

The whole renovation including flooring, appliances (used and new old stock), fittings, plumber and electrician cost $7,000. Which is the same price we had been quoted to simply replace the old cabinet fronts and put on a new countertop. I think you got a better kitchen and added more value with the full remodel.

We purchased the cabinets on credit card, and paid cash for everything else.
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« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2022, 04:14:53 PM »
Nice work. I'm impressed that you did all that for $7k! For our place, the electrical work alone was around $10K (3 rooms, and there were some problems).

I'm coming around to the minimal upper cabinets look. I swore that we would never ever have open shelving, but we have it in our new place, and I kinda love it.

Am I understanding correctly that you installed mostly freestanding cabinets? Where did you get them? I like the idea.



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« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2022, 06:59:38 PM »
Thanks. Part of the price includes selling the old kitchen for -$800. And outsourced labor was only $2,000.

I'm lucky that my builder is also my plumber and electrician. I had him disconnect the pipes and electrics Friday morning. That afternoon I removed the old kitchen and lifted the flooring. Saturday was laying new flooring, Sunday was shifting cabinets back into place and on Monday the builder was back to connect up the plumbing and electrics. All that remained was patching some drywall over the coming week, but at least we had a functional kitchen.

We wanted to avoid upper cabinets and have all shelves, but the one cabinet is super helpful.

Yes all free standing cabinets (oak fronts, pine body and include the black granite top). Mine are from Early Settler who have stores in Australia and New Zealand. I know similar cabinets are available in the UK, not sure about the rest of the world.
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« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2025, 10:50:15 PM »
Just bought our first home in January, we did a light-duty refresh of the first floor, for the kitchen we painted the walls and cabinets, removed some trim that was dated and not needed, removed the linoleum and replaced with glue-down vinyl plank (through the whole main floor), and replaced the kitchen faucet and the old lines and shutoffs under the sink. Definitely under $1000 for the kitchen area, all DIY.


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« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2025, 11:36:05 AM »
Now this was a great thread to revive -- love all the pics!! 

We paid over six figures.  We bought an old house, where the kitchen was in an enclosed porch shaped like an L that was also the back entrance to the house.  We had a gorgeous backyard, but the back wall was floor-to-ceiling dark oak cabinets, with one small window.  And all the appliances were in the short side of the L, so you couldn't open the fridge or oven at the same time as the dishwasher -- and forget about two people trying to cook and clean up at the same time.  Oh, and the formica countertop corners were held together by masking tape, and there were about 2 linear feet of counter space. 

We flipped the kitchen into the small living room next to it, installed windows all along the outside of the L, and turned the corner of the L into a breakfast nook.  It was NOT cheap -- turns out the enclosed porch was basically held together by popsicle sticks (like, they had closed off window openings just by shoving in whatever lengths of lumber they had at whatever angle they needed to to make it fit).  But we had intentionally bought a house well below our max price, knowing we'd need to do the kitchen, so it wasn't unexpected. 

What was unexpected was the while-you're-at-it-ism.  We had another enclosed porch above the old kitchen, which we decided would make a great main bath.  But that required moving the laundry room, which required finishing a porch halfway up the stairwell.  And then we changed an unnecessary first-floor bath into a half-bath with two big closets, fitted out a small room as an office, and removed a weird built-in/closet thing in the upstairs hall, reopened the door into the hall bath, closed off the door between that bath and the main bedroom, and redid that hall bathroom upstairs while we were at it. 

The whole thing was probably $250K.  I did all the design, including kitchen drawings and specs, so we at least saved a little there.  My ideal would have been for DH to build the cabinets, but we just didn't have time for that, so he focused instead on things like a coffered ceiling in the dining room and building the table and benches to fit in the breakfast nook.  I freaked out at the cost at the time, but it turned out to be 100% worth it -- it's been an incredibly comfortable house for the past 20 years.  Until it burned down.  But I think the best evidence of how well the remodel worked was that we rebuilt everything exactly as it was (we did replace the fireplace with wine storage and open up the entrance to the dining room as part of the rebuild, but all of that was beyond the scope of the original remodel). 

We paid part cash, part HELOC; I'd have preferred cash, but we'd just put 20% down on the house, so cash reserves were somewhat light. 

Turns out I don't have good pics of either remodel, but I'm attaching one of the current kitchen.

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« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2025, 01:14:05 PM »
I've never done a full remodel but can concur that some paint and a new light fixture can make an old one look a lot nicer. I like having a lot of counter space but to me not having people want to hang out in the kitchen while I'm cooking is a feature, not a bug.

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« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2025, 01:22:59 PM »
Bought a home that we truly love last year and it was fully move in ready.
The kitchen is likely the reason we won the bid, if it were updated there would have been an absurd amount of offers on it. The kitchen has that outdated, tacky look and feel is truly the only sore spot of the house.That said, it is fully functional and requires no immediate repairs or work.

Due to its smaller size, it can never be one of those show stoppers, where everyone hangs out around the kitchen, but the smaller size also means it should be cheaper to fully renovate with the exact design we would like.

Outside of re-sale value, I am curious as to how “worth it” full kitchen remodels have felt to folks.
What has the impact been and were you glad the money was spent there vs appreciating assets?
Did you save up and cash flow the remodel or take out a loan?
I was delighted that the condo I bought in the year 2020 with a tiny kitchen was the perfect one, perfect size, perfect building, perfect place in the building, and then had the perfect kitchen.

The kitchen was perfect because it was incredibly ugly and pretty old. Think of heavy Oak cabinets from the 70s or early 80s. And then somewhat new I would’ve been hesitant to renovate it.

So yeah, we did a gut of the kitchen and it was $23,5000. And that was a tiny  galley kitchen. But we had the Amish guys make custom cabinets and I ended up with “high-end “appliances which I don’t care about, but I got them in reduced size, so those are always more expensive. Oh wait, I was fixed on the idea of a “blue stove “and due to the hundred year old building I needed electric oven and gas top and so the choices were limited. I think my son was around $4,000-$4,500.

 I also have a marble countertop, which is fine because I don’t cook there very often and I don’t have to be terribly careful with it.

So worth it, it’s beautiful. I originally went to a kitchen designer who suggested it would be in that range and I walked out thinking that’s impossible, but the bottom line was really something like $23,500, and keep in mind that my husband did all of the work of installing cabinets, finishing the new wood floor, Painting, and installing the little bit of woodwork that exists, rewiring old light fixtures that I wanted.
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« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2025, 07:04:33 PM »
Just bought our first home in January, we did a light-duty refresh of the first floor, for the kitchen we painted the walls and cabinets, removed some trim that was dated and not needed, removed the linoleum and replaced with glue-down vinyl plank (through the whole main floor), and replaced the kitchen faucet and the old lines and shutoffs under the sink. Definitely under $1000 for the kitchen area, all DIY.
Grab your screwdriver and reverse that refrigerator door! Virtually every fridge can be reversed really easily. Try YouTube if its not super obvious by looking at the top of the fridge.

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« Reply #62 on: March 07, 2025, 07:18:46 PM »
I'm too lazy to pull and sort pictures, so I'll just pop in a link to the thread. We completed this reno two-ish years ago. We spent slightly less than $25k on the entire no-surface-left-untouched project. That number includes turnkey furnishings.

There are photos scattered throughout the thread, but most of the kitchen before & afters are on page six.

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/real-estate-and-landlording/west-coast-rta-cabinet-maker-recommendations/250/

It was totally worth it. We paid cash for the condo and for the renovation. What I'm most proud of is that this kitchen has more prep space than my own in a house three times the size.

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« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2025, 08:35:05 AM »
Just bought our first home in January, we did a light-duty refresh of the first floor, for the kitchen we painted the walls and cabinets, removed some trim that was dated and not needed, removed the linoleum and replaced with glue-down vinyl plank (through the whole main floor), and replaced the kitchen faucet and the old lines and shutoffs under the sink. Definitely under $1000 for the kitchen area, all DIY.
Grab your screwdriver and reverse that refrigerator door! Virtually every fridge can be reversed really easily. Try YouTube if its not super obvious by looking at the top of the fridge.

That’s funny, I was just looking at it the other day and wondered about swapping it. It does have the holes and everything to switch sides, but I’m leaning towards leaving it as-is, the only reason being that the fridge works fine, but is really old and some of the plastic parts appear to be quite brittle so I’m not sure it would survive me doing any work to it. If I accidentally break the fridge door handle or trim or strip a screw or something, then we need a new fridge, which, knowing my wife, will lead me to replacing all three perfectly good kitchen appliances. Eventually that will need to be done when one of them dies of natural causes, but right now it’s not in the budget.

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« Reply #64 on: March 08, 2025, 08:37:33 AM »
I'm too lazy to pull and sort pictures, so I'll just pop in a link to the thread. We completed this reno two-ish years ago. We spent slightly less than $25k on the entire no-surface-left-untouched project. That number includes turnkey furnishings.

There are photos scattered throughout the thread, but most of the kitchen before & afters are on page six.

https://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/real-estate-and-landlording/west-coast-rta-cabinet-maker-recommendations/250/

It was totally worth it. We paid cash for the condo and for the renovation. What I'm most proud of is that this kitchen has more prep space than my own in a house three times the size.

Beautiful job! Definitely worth it

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« Reply #65 on: March 09, 2025, 09:58:18 PM »
I realized that I'd missed a few things, so I posted more photos on the thread linked above.

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« Reply #66 on: March 10, 2025, 08:29:08 AM »
Just bought our first home in January, we did a light-duty refresh of the first floor, for the kitchen we painted the walls and cabinets, removed some trim that was dated and not needed, removed the linoleum and replaced with glue-down vinyl plank (through the whole main floor), and replaced the kitchen faucet and the old lines and shutoffs under the sink. Definitely under $1000 for the kitchen area, all DIY.
Grab your screwdriver and reverse that refrigerator door! Virtually every fridge can be reversed really easily. Try YouTube if its not super obvious by looking at the top of the fridge.

That’s funny, I was just looking at it the other day and wondered about swapping it. It does have the holes and everything to switch sides, but I’m leaning towards leaving it as-is, the only reason being that the fridge works fine, but is really old and some of the plastic parts appear to be quite brittle so I’m not sure it would survive me doing any work to it. If I accidentally break the fridge door handle or trim or strip a screw or something, then we need a new fridge, which, knowing my wife, will lead me to replacing all three perfectly good kitchen appliances. Eventually that will need to be done when one of them dies of natural causes, but right now it’s not in the budget.


Please swap the handle. Even if it cracks, you can order a replacement for about $20.

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« Reply #67 on: March 10, 2025, 07:47:46 PM »
Just bought our first home in January, we did a light-duty refresh of the first floor, for the kitchen we painted the walls and cabinets, removed some trim that was dated and not needed, removed the linoleum and replaced with glue-down vinyl plank (through the whole main floor), and replaced the kitchen faucet and the old lines and shutoffs under the sink. Definitely under $1000 for the kitchen area, all DIY.
Grab your screwdriver and reverse that refrigerator door! Virtually every fridge can be reversed really easily. Try YouTube if its not super obvious by looking at the top of the fridge.

That’s funny, I was just looking at it the other day and wondered about swapping it. It does have the holes and everything to switch sides, but I’m leaning towards leaving it as-is, the only reason being that the fridge works fine, but is really old and some of the plastic parts appear to be quite brittle so I’m not sure it would survive me doing any work to it. If I accidentally break the fridge door handle or trim or strip a screw or something, then we need a new fridge, which, knowing my wife, will lead me to replacing all three perfectly good kitchen appliances. Eventually that will need to be done when one of them dies of natural causes, but right now it’s not in the budget.


Please swap the handle. Even if it cracks, you can order a replacement for about $20.
Ditto. Since it's never been moved, there's an extremely low chance of the screw being stripped. Even if you did break the handle (not likely) the fridge will still work. In fact, many newer models don't have handles at all.

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« Reply #68 on: March 19, 2025, 07:27:27 PM »
I broke the handle on my fridge about ten years ago.
I just removed the broken sections.
I grab the edge of the door to open it, works fine, and looks fine.

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« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2025, 07:35:23 PM »
I broke the handle on my fridge about ten years ago.
I just removed the broken sections.
I grab the edge of the door to open it, works fine, and looks fine.
Yup.
In fact, I'm sure it works far better than fine vs. one that swings in the wrong direction...

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« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2025, 07:55:21 PM »
I broke the handle on my fridge about ten years ago.
I just removed the broken sections.
I grab the edge of the door to open it, works fine, and looks fine.
Yup.
In fact, I'm sure it works far better than fine vs. one that swings in the wrong direction...
I hate when the swing is wrong! I started putting french door models in my builds; no more switching the door.