Talk about painting a fucking one-dimensional picture...
Technically, I think it was a two dimensional picture. Two camps, with competing interests, bound together to form a somewhat paradoxical ruling party. But a party that holds all of the power in this country right now, so at least it's effective.
keyboard sociologists and psychologists such as Sol
As a general rule, on this forum we try to constrain ourselves to attacking arguments instead of attacking people. There's no need to be petty or personally insulting. You may notice I will not call you any names in this post, and I would ask that you do the same in the future. Also, consider editing your previous post before you get moderated for violating the forum rules.
“They’re too fucking stupid to vote for their own interests because they are all misogynic homophobes who care more about culturally defeating the ‘others’”.
I said nothing of the sort, but I recognize your faux outrage over what you heard, instead of what was said. This is a common tactic on right wing talk radio, too, where discussions of registering mentally ill people who try to buy semi auto rifles with bump stocks immediately turned into "libtards are gunna take our guns!" No, that's not the topic at hand, and your immediate overreaction into extreme interpretations does not help advance the discussion we need to have. You're just stifling honest debate with such ridiculousness.
But its too fucking hard for people like Sol to imagine there are competent, rational people who vote libertarian or right-leaning for any other fucking reason than that they have been brainwashed and misled by billionaires into voting against their own interests.
Did you even read what I wrote?
I said nothing about "every voter" and I said nothing about you. I described the party's coalition of disparate interests.
It was a post about the lie behind trickle down economics, and why I think the party has so fully embraced that lie despite so many decades of evidence that it is indefensible.
corporate tax should be as low as feasible- since all of the money eventually falls into someone’s hands
This is the lie of trickle down economics. Thank you for proving my point, I guess?
If the republicans actually wanted to help the middle class, they could have given the middle class a tax cut. They chose not to. It's not like it's a hard bill to write. Reagan and Bush BOTH passed tax cuts that actually lowered taxes on the middle class, so I'm pretty sure they know how to do it. This time they choose to write a bill that instead raises taxes on the middle class, to partially offset the debt created by their giant, permanent, tax cut for corporations and the wealthy. Sure, they phased in the tax increases on the middle class slowly, to soften the blow, but they still raise taxes on the middle class.
You don't need to believe in the trickle down fairy tale. If you want to help the middle class, then actually help the middle class. Don't help billionaires and claim it will then secondarily maybe help the middle class, even though that has never worked before. It's silly.
The political conversation in this country is not going to go anywhere until people stop painting with single-stroke brushes.
Do you think your post is helping? I see an awful lot of name calling, gross exaggeration, strawman arguments, and belittling of opposing viewpoints and the people who hold them. I don't think you're exactly elevating the discourse.
If I called the Democratic party out
I would encourage you to offer your personal views on the democratic party, at length, maybe in a thread devoted to that topic. I would discourage you from continuing to make antagonistic personal attacks on fellow forum members, by name.
I agree that the democratic party has it's own coalition and internal conflicts, but this isn't a thread about them, or about parties in general, or about the social divide in our country. It's a thread about the republican tax plan, the economic lie it is based on, and how clearly it betrays the ideals the president campaigned on. Democrats have no role in it. Trump sold us down the river.
But apparently dude can tell half the forum Fuck You and not get banned so why not try it…
I didn't even swear!