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Do you consider yourself lazy?

I am Gen Y; I consider myself lazy.
175 (29.3%)
I am Gen Y; I do not consider myself lazy.
91 (15.2%)
I am Gen X; I consider myself lazy.
158 (26.4%)
I am Gen X; I do not consider myself lazy.
106 (17.7%)
I am a Baby Boomer; I consider myself lazy.
32 (5.4%)
I am a Baby Boomer; I do not consider myself lazy.
26 (4.3%)
None of the above.
10 (1.7%)

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Poll: Are You Lazy?
« on: September 19, 2013, 03:49:32 PM »
Curious if you would self identify as lazy, or not, and what generational demographic you consider yourself in.

Whatever those terms mean to you.
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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2013, 03:52:27 PM »
yes I am lazy, I want my money to work for me and not the other way around.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 03:55:03 PM »
I would say I'm lazy, but paradoxically very motivated to do very un-lazy things in pursuit of the freedom to be as lazy as I want.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 04:00:44 PM »
Unfortunately, I am not lazy to the degree that I have a difficult time relaxing and not "getting anything done." For me the challenge is to allow myself to not do anything and just be.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 04:20:43 PM »
I have to say I feel much more like a millenial than a Gen Y even though I'm 26. Probably just the fact that I grew up immersed in tech.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 04:23:19 PM »
I have to say I feel much more like a millenial than a Gen Y even though I'm 26. Probably just the fact that I grew up immersed in tech.

Yeah, I've always taken them to be one and the same. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Y

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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 04:25:19 PM »
I have to say I feel much more like a millenial than a Gen Y even though I'm 26. Probably just the fact that I grew up immersed in tech.

I'm not sure what you mean---you do know that "tech" has been around for a while, right?

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 04:32:12 PM »
I have to say I feel much more like a millenial than a Gen Y even though I'm 26. Probably just the fact that I grew up immersed in tech.

Gen Y = Millennial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennial_Generation

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 04:35:10 PM »
They did not used to be the same, about 8 years ago or so there was a distinction between Gen Y and Millennial.  Over the past few years they have come to be synonymous, and please consider them so for the purposes of this poll.
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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2013, 04:46:05 PM »
I guess I'd consider myself lazy, but I think if I needed to I could do more. My laziness really peaks when I become disinterested in something.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2013, 04:53:23 PM »
I suppose I consider myself lazy. I'm working a full-time corporate job right now so that I can afford to let my inner lazy person express itself more fully in the not-too-distant future.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2013, 04:58:08 PM »
I work 10 hours a day in the military, after my work day I go to school for 4 hours a night.  In between, I accomplish little to nothing.  I used to be able to sit down and just play video games all the time(I'm 28).  At 27 it started to get harder and harder to just sit somewhere and play video games, now it's hard to sit somewhere and watch TV.  I always feel like I should be doing something more or at the very least, something.   Which is harder and harder to do if I try to save money.

I am lazy, but by U.S. standards, I don't think so. 

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 05:06:15 PM »
I'm really not that la

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2013, 05:25:05 PM »
This is interesting. I am lazy in that I do not work harder than I have to, but I do work hard. And definitely as hard as I need to in order to become successful.

But I do not go above and beyond. And when I do - well, then it's because I'm feeling passionate about it, and then it doesn't feel like work! ;)

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 05:30:57 PM »
Gen Y and lazy. My goal is to do the least amount of work possible to accumulate cash, retire young, and spend most of my life doing whatever I feel like. I used to be a lot harder working when I was first getting started in life(hand-weeding fields on an organic farm as a teen, etc), but as time passes I get less and less willing to bust my butt.

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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2013, 06:29:39 PM »
I was born in 1979 so could go either Gen X or Gen Y.  I chose Gen X.  I have older siblings who really influenced me during my younger years.  But I really do feel that I am a part of both X/Y.

I don't normally consider myself lazy, but when I chat with my siblings I kind of do.  My sister is a high school math teacher, has three kids in middle school and high school (all in afterschool sports and music programs), runs a goat farm, co-chairs a 4-H program, and also helps out with a lot of events at her church.  (Just typing that out makes me dizzy.) 

My brother lives a busy life, but urban style.

If they are happy, I'm happy for them.  I really just can't be like that.  I try to focus on a handful of things that matter to me...and that's it.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2013, 06:35:58 PM »
Gen Y (although identifying with a "generation" as if everyone born in the last 25 years is alike seems pointless) and the farthest thing from lazy. I work lots. Work is good.

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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2013, 06:50:38 PM »
I don't know. 

I mean, I could be doing way more than I am, but I have less motivation to work hard these days. I have a lot of autonomy in the form of savings/income.  It did take a lot of effort to get here.

I was thinking about this today because I find that I have lost a bit of motivation on the FI front.  I've reached many of the goals I've set and I have no sense of urgency driving anything anymore.  The motivation has to come from a different place now and I'm still sorting that out. 

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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2013, 06:58:30 PM »
This all really raises (but does not beg) the question of what lazy really is. I'm sure there are a couple of different perspectives on what is lazy, what is merely rational avoidance of excessive effort, what is slowing down now that you don't need to prove yourself, etc.

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2013, 07:17:03 PM »
I feel like I'm lazy because although I'm very smart & capable, I basically do the bare minimum to get by in most areas of my life. I don't think it's my generation causing it though, my mom is basically the same & I just learned it from her. It comes and goes. I also feel like I'm in a bit of rut lately so that's not helping.

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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2013, 07:23:55 PM »
I was born in 1980 and identify with Gen X- I think it has something to do with Reality Bites or Douglas Coupland being a part of my life.  I voted non-lazy in the overall context of making my life what I want it to be.  I work hard when I'm in the office and I'm ambitious.  I am interested in improving my health and my home and I take steps to do that.  But I LOVE being laaaazy.  Like how I'm laying on the couch watching Project Runway right now and IT IS AWESOME.

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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2013, 07:30:56 PM »
This all really raises (but does not beg) the question of what lazy really is. I'm sure there are a couple of different perspectives on what is lazy, what is merely rational avoidance of excessive effort, what is slowing down now that you don't need to prove yourself, etc.

+1

I work my ass off for things that I value highly, but would be called lazy by the standard of how hard I work at what everybody else thinks I should value (schoolwork, when I had it, is the first thing that comes to mind).

Gen Y, whatever the hell that means, and not lazy was my vote FWIW.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2013, 07:44:15 PM »
I struggled with whether I'm lazy or not. I work very hard at things I think are important, but I put minimal effort into things I don't consider important.

That's not lazy; that's efficient. 

I've always described myself as efficient, not lazy.  I do as little work as possible to accomplish a necessary objective. 

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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2013, 07:46:50 PM »
Gen X'er and I'm not lazy...

I try to be efficient and have perfected the art of procrastination.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2013, 08:01:58 PM »
This all really raises (but does not beg) the question of what lazy really is. I'm sure there are a couple of different perspectives on what is lazy, what is merely rational avoidance of excessive effort, what is slowing down now that you don't need to prove yourself, etc.

+1

I work my ass off for things that I value highly, but would be called lazy by the standard of how hard I work at what everybody else thinks I should value (schoolwork, when I had it, is the first thing that comes to mind).

Gen Y, whatever the hell that means, and not lazy was my vote FWIW.

Lazy can have a broad definition. I agree; the amount of effort I put in is based on the reward. In a highly unionized, completely seniority driven work environment I put in a moderate effort that assures I won't get in trouble. In my rental business where effort = profit, I bust my ass. Am I lazy? I don't think so. Would some people disagree? Probably.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2013, 08:06:55 PM »
Gen X'er here. Type A - way overachiever. I don't do things if I can't do them 110%. period. I love to study something until I know it well. Sometimes I do plunge in ahead of my knowledge intake however and that can get me into trouble. My DH is opposite, he is my balance. He's bright and thoughtful but doesn't like to work hard unless it is necessary.

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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2013, 08:10:45 PM »
I'm really not that la

this is very funny :)

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2013, 08:43:41 PM »
I struggled with whether I'm lazy or not. I work very hard at things I think are important, but I put minimal effort into things I don't consider important.

That's not lazy; that's efficient. 

I've always described myself as efficient, not lazy.  I do as little work as possible to accomplish a necessary objective.

That's how I see it, sure, but then I wonder whether people who I think of as lazy just have a less expansive view of what constitutes a "necessary objective."

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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2013, 09:26:17 PM »
I'm really not that la

Thanks for the laugh :-)

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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2013, 09:32:24 PM »
All of mankind's greatest inventions has been with one underlying goal.

How can I be more lazy.

Ah, I don't want to chop firewood, lets burn oils and gas.

You know walking up steps is a bear.  Lets have the steps move for us.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2013, 10:10:25 PM »
All of mankind's greatest inventions has been with one underlying goal.

How can I be more lazy.

Ah, I don't want to chop firewood, lets burn oils and gas.

You know walking up steps is a bear.  Lets have the steps move for us.

Except that most of those are self-defeating, as you then have to work harder - either working out, or earning money to pay for the high-priced oil, not to mention the medical bills that result from all the diseases of inactivity. 

Me, I spent half an hour this morning splitting wood, thus killing three birds with one axe: got exercise, avoided having to buy high-priced heating oil, and cleaned up the dead tree.

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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2013, 07:27:25 AM »
All of mankind's greatest inventions has been with one underlying goal.

How can I be more lazy.

Ah, I don't want to chop firewood, lets burn oils and gas.

You know walking up steps is a bear.  Lets have the steps move for us.

I call that efficiency. :)
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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2013, 07:39:21 AM »
Gen Y and lazy! I am a great believer in the Pareto principle and constnatly trying to figure out loopholes and shortcuts. The whole point of mustachianism for me is to be able to sit on my bum for weeks at a time doing "niks f*kol" (effing nothing).

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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2013, 07:49:34 AM »
I prefer the term "efficient".  I was born in 1977, so either the tail end of X or the beginning of Y - never sure which I fit into.

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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2013, 07:49:47 AM »
Gen X and lazy.

That said, I'm ambitious and I work smart to achieve what I want to achieve. I agree w/ previous posters, that I am always looking for ways to make my life more efficient ... so I can be lazy for an hour or two per day, reading / internet surfing / watching TV. If I don't have an hour to myself each day, I feel stretched too thin. When it's a choice between reading a good book or going to the gym, I will choose the book 9 times out of 10.

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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2013, 07:54:31 AM »
Non-lazy Gen X.

The question, what is lazy? It's sort of like calling someone attention deficit. I know some who say they're ADD. To me that's just an excuse for not wanting to talk about or do uninteresting things. The same with laziness! It's not being lazy, it's just that some people would rather not choose to work their life's in a cube or do a mundane job.

Lazy is not wanting to pick up after yourself, or take care of yourself. I don't consider people lazy who do not want to work for a living and just enjoy life. We weren't meant to work 40 hrs a week inside a box for someone else. Not wanting to do that isn't lazy, it's not wanted to be owned by a corporation or a slave to debt. We are pro-leisure, but will work our butts off to attain that. It's not lazy to strive for a life of leisure.

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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2013, 08:07:03 AM »
I'm lazy in the sense that I'm not very good at forcing myself to do things that I'm not intrinsically motivated to do.  I work pretty hard on the stuff that I'm motivated to do though, and it doesn't feel like effort.  But... doesn't that describe everyone?

Lazy feels more like a judgement that anything else.  You're lazy because you don't work hard at the things I think you should work hard at.  Then people that self describe as lazy are just the folks that have been called lazy many times in their life and just take back the term for themselves.

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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2013, 08:13:54 AM »
I'm Gen Y and TBH find myself to be pretty lazy.   I doubt those around me would characterize me as lazy (as I somehow get a lot done, am ontop of everything, am pretty successful).   But, the reality is that I spend the majority of every day screwing off.   Seriously, I work very hard for say 3 hours a day on average, and the rest of the time fritter the time away, but somehow I get all I need done plus some (and I don't exactly have a job that's considered easy, we do a lot of home projects, have a child, etc). 

I have spent a great deal of time feeling guilty about this and trying to figure out if I'm just super efficient or everyone else lies about how much they actually work/get done.   I'm still not sure, but suspect it's generally a combination.

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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2013, 08:17:45 AM »
Then people that self describe as lazy are just the folks that have been called lazy many times in their life and just take back the term for themselves.

I disagree.   I cannot recall ever being called lazy by someone else in my life.   I self-identify as lazy, b/c if I'm being honest, I meet the definition.  I take the easiest path to getting things done, I try to avoid work, I like to lie around as much as possible.   I don't work that hard and my life is pretty cushy.

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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2013, 08:32:01 AM »
"It is common for animals (even those like hummingbirds that have high energy needs) to forage for food until satiated, and then spend most of their time doing nothing, or at least nothing in particular.... Extremely efficient predators have more free time and thus often appear more lazy than relatively inept predators that have little free time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laziness

I wonder whether increased productivity makes us happier than doing less once FI is reached.  Then there is the whole guilt thing about being lazy.  And, for what it is worth Emilyngh, I work hard less than three hours a day on average and I get a lot done. 

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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2013, 09:13:55 AM »
Gen X, not lazy. I mean, there's plenty of stuff I could be doing right now, but I'm sitting here at the computer reading message boards. 
But, I'm raising three kids, cooking dinner at home (really gourmet stuff, too), keeping the house livable, and the finances running smoothly, with a smattering of at-home contract work and time consuming hobbies thrown in to the mix.  In my previous life as a type A career driven DINK, I probably would have considered my current self a little bit lazy.  I've gotten better at figuring out what's really important in life.  Being busy all the time is overrated and working for pennies to make someone else's bottom line bigger isn't the best use of my time.

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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2013, 09:32:08 AM »
I find this very interesting. I am Gen Y (1983) and I am absolutely not lazy. I want to be financially independent, not because I don't want to work, but because the work that I want to do doesn't pay very well. Or perhaps more accurately, I don't want to NEED to be paid for the work I want to do. I want to be free to pursue my interests as I choose and work on my own schedule. I actually feel much lazier on a day that I go to work and sit at a computer for 6 hours than I do when I'm on vacation. I love hiking, biking, canoeing, gardening, woodworking, carpentry, teaching, learning, reading, cooking. I want to spend my time on the things I care about, and much of what I care about are things that other people call "work".

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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2013, 09:34:50 AM »
This all really raises (but does not beg) the question of what lazy really is. I'm sure there are a couple of different perspectives on what is lazy, what is merely rational avoidance of excessive effort, what is slowing down now that you don't need to prove yourself, etc.

+1

I work my ass off for things that I value highly, but would be called lazy by the standard of how hard I work at what everybody else thinks I should value (schoolwork, when I had it, is the first thing that comes to mind).


Boomer here.  But this.  +1.

This reminded me of a Larry Wall quote:
 "We will encourage you to develop the three great virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, and hubris." -- Larry Wall, ProgrammingPerl (1st edition).

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« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2013, 03:56:42 PM »
Depends how one defines lazy... I'm not lazy at all at work (ca 50 h per week), but outside that I'm content at doing almost nothing for long stretches of time (sleep till 11, read books, browse internet etc).

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« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2013, 06:43:44 AM »
gen y and lazy.  websters should have a picture of my face.  hell i can't even be bothered to use caps when i type most of the time lol.
i am all about the most amount of work with the least amount of effort, i avoid work if at all possible, if there is an elevator i'm taking it, i hate moving in general, i have no goals bc it would take work to meet them.  lol.  i just kind of exist, and i dig it man. 

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« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2013, 07:00:58 AM »
I put Gen Y and lazy. 

Maybe once I forage/grow 51% or more of my own food I'll identify with the other side.  :)

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« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2013, 07:30:44 AM »
gen y and lazy.  websters should have a picture of my face.  hell i can't even be bothered to use caps when i type most of the time lol.
i am all about the most amount of work with the least amount of effort, i avoid work if at all possible, if there is an elevator i'm taking it, i hate moving in general, i have no goals bc it would take work to meet them.  lol.  i just kind of exist, and i dig it man.

Very zen, like lichens.   Or moss on a shady tree. 

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« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2013, 09:08:49 AM »
I consider myself Gen Y and lazy.

My definition of laziness is choosing a lower-effort behaviour over a higher-effort behaviour because the short-term returns are better for choosing lower-effort. This is despite the fact that high effort in my experience correlates very well with higher rewards in the medium to long term.

A person who is lazy chooses the lower-effort approach more often than they perceive that they should. This is subjective for a reason. If a person honestly believes that the low-effort approach gives them the greatest return overall, they are not lazy, but efficient. Why would any person exert more effort than is necessary to achieve a given goal?

For analogy, consider taking out a pile of waste cardboard and putting it in a bin outside. It is not lazy to pile it up until it is about the load one could take in a single trip, and then to take it all at once - it is efficient batching. It is definitely silly to take a pile of cardboard to the bin one item at a time!

Lazy is choosing to let the pile grow until you trip over it, but still put it off because you allow the short-term reward (not having to do anything) to outweigh the more substantial long-term cost (worrying about the pile every time you see it / risk of tripping over it / a much bigger task to be done later).

Unfortunately, by that definition, I am lazy. I often choose behaviours that have a small short-term reward in exchange for a far more substantial long-term cost. Thankfully, and largely due to my involvement (lurking) in the personal finance scene this year, I can exclude finances from my list of 'stuff I am lazy about'. I no longer accrue fees for late returns of library books, or late payments of bills, for example.

I am making progress on choosing not to be lazy about my physical health and fitness. I am exercising regularly. I am making progress on eating healthily and well.

However, there are a lot of tasks I am lazy about. I am currently avoiding doing an assignment due later this week. I am also avoiding practicing the piano, doing writing exercises, and working on a website I own - all things that I know I should be doing, and which when engaged in, I enjoy greatly and experience 'flow'.

Yep. I'm incredibly lazy.

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Re: Poll: Are You Lazy?
« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2013, 09:17:37 AM »
Tail end of baby boom. Not lazy, but procrastination can be a problem. I kind of have to achieve a certain level of anxiety before I start cranking up to peak potential. Maybe that's why I came to personal finance rather late, but have embraced mustachianism almost like a religion.

 

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