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Uturn

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You people have ruined me
« on: January 06, 2016, 12:55:48 PM »
Life used to be so easy.  Need eggs? Get in the car and go get some.

It's not like that anymore.  I used the last of my eggs this morning, so I go through this thought process

Can it wait?  No, it's supposed to start raining in a few hours and through the night.
Can you just go get drive through burritos in the morning?  HAHA
Do you have time to walk to the store?  No, I need to be back soon for a conference call.  Bicycle it is.

About half way to the store, I realized that I forgot my reusable grocery sack.  Go back home and get the sack, ignoring the fact that I picked these panniers because they unclip and have a strap and can be used as grocery sacks.  Get to the store and they are out of eggs that come in a recyclable package.  Cycle over to the other grocery store. 

I should have taken the blue pill. 


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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 01:08:27 PM »
hahahaahahh :)

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 02:58:09 PM »
Early set Dementia? hope not! haha

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 05:21:15 PM »

nothing to do with your post,but
I wana know what plane is that in your avatar , looks nice....I miss my wood shop.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 05:29:27 PM »
It's a lot of pressure at first. You are bound to forget something.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 07:15:03 PM »
Perfect!  I can totally identify with this and feel for ya, man!

Down the rabbit hole we goes...

Uturn

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 08:55:52 PM »

nothing to do with your post,but
I wana know what plane is that in your avatar , looks nice....I miss my wood shop.

It's a Veritas low angle smoother.  I started down the hand tool rabbit hole a couple of years ago.  Sold the table saw and power jointer last summer.  Woodworking is much more relaxing now. 

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 09:42:45 AM »
Run out of eggs?  They last for several months past the expiration date.  If we have less than 2 dozen eggs in the fridge when I go to the grocery store I buy more.  I have never thrown an egg in the garbage. 

EDIT to add:

If you are unsure if the egg is still good put it in a glass of water.  Fresh eggs are denser and will sink to the bottom of the glass.  As they age they release gas inside the egg.  Once the egg has enough gas that it doesn't sink to the bottom and instead floats, it's spoiled and should be tossed.  I've tested eggs that were up to 3 months past the expiration date and they sank.  They tasted fine and no one has gotten sick yet.
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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 09:50:26 AM »
I'm curious how that floating test works. Density is a function of mass and volume. I assume the volume of the egg does not change. If the egg "releases gas" in the interior, it must be by changing solid or liquid to gas, which would still conserve the mass.

Therefore for a spoiled egg to lose density, it must actually be losing mass to the outside of the egg.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 09:56:53 AM »
I'm curious how that floating test works. Density is a function of mass and volume. I assume the volume of the egg does not change. If the egg "releases gas" in the interior, it must be by changing solid or liquid to gas, which would still conserve the mass.

Therefore for a spoiled egg to lose density, it must actually be losing mass to the outside of the egg.
You are absolutely right.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 09:59:45 AM »
I'm curious how that floating test works. Density is a function of mass and volume. I assume the volume of the egg does not change. If the egg "releases gas" in the interior, it must be by changing solid or liquid to gas, which would still conserve the mass.

Therefore for a spoiled egg to lose density, it must actually be losing mass to the outside of the egg.

I believe the egg shell is porous and mass can pass through.  I don't know the exact mechanisms going on, but I assume the egg loses moisture and either absorbs ambient air or is just slowly decomposing and building up the gas bubble inside. 

Regardless I think it's still true and I can see the egg go from laying on its side when it's fresh, to standing up, to eventually floating as it ages. 

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 10:01:20 AM »
I'm curious how that floating test works. Density is a function of mass and volume. I assume the volume of the egg does not change. If the egg "releases gas" in the interior, it must be by changing solid or liquid to gas, which would still conserve the mass.

Therefore for a spoiled egg to lose density, it must actually be losing mass to the outside of the egg.
You are absolutely right.

Well there you go.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 10:03:44 AM »
After a couple years of using your bike to run errands and commute, it will really become second nature to always quadruple check that you have everything needed before stepping on to the saddle.  Unfortunately this is learned the hard way.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2016, 11:17:30 AM »
That is some good shit Uturn.  Well done!

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2016, 11:20:55 AM »
So now you're thoughtful?
Congratulations!!

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2016, 06:01:25 AM »
Run out of eggs?  They last for several months past the expiration date.  If we have less than 2 dozen eggs in the fridge when I go to the grocery store I buy more.  I have never thrown an egg in the garbage. 

EDIT to add:

If you are unsure if the egg is still good put it in a glass of water.  Fresh eggs are denser and will sink to the bottom of the glass.  As they age they release gas inside the egg.  Once the egg has enough gas that it doesn't sink to the bottom and instead floats, it's spoiled and should be tossed.  I've tested eggs that were up to 3 months past the expiration date and they sank.  They tasted fine and no one has gotten sick yet.



For all you frugal foodies, there's a series of cookbooks by an Alaskan State Trooper....Low Bush Cookbook or something like that, that goes into how 'boat' eggs from when AK only got groceries via barge from Seattle could be 6-8 months old when you bought them tasted...not fresh, but still eggs.

And....in the USA 'most' organic store-bought eggs (yes, even the ones you buy at Trader Joe's) have been coated with a (SUPPOSEDLY) "food grade petroleum" product (vasoline type crap). This inhibits the airflow in/out of the shell and keeps the egg fresh longer. High price, to me, if it means I'm eating vasoline every morning.

Supposedly in Ireland (per a person I used to work with) and parts of Europe it is illegal to refrigerate eggs for sale as real fresh eggs should be used in a few weeks....it's easier to tell if they're fresh when not put in cold storage.

Logically: a growing chick needs air to survive, so there has to be a natural way for it to absorb some through the shell.

Last weird fact: if you go to backyardchickens.com, you'll find threads where people with incubators (and obviously too much time on their hands) have actually bought organic fertilized eggs (usually without the goop on them) and grown them to chickens. Poor success rate if I recall...possibly a result of the egg being scalded clean prior to boxing.


 

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2016, 09:01:06 AM »
In the US we wash our eggs, which removes a protective layer that keeps bacteria and other things out. To counteract that we need to use oil to prevent the bacterial ingress and refrigerate to keep other microbes at bay.

We keep chickens here, 17 hens at last count and the only time I wash eggs is immediately before use to remove poo that occasionally gets on them. I collect eggs once a day, in the evening when I close up the coop. We store the eggs in the refrigerator because we have a roo. Any of our suspect eggs get the glass of water treatment, haven't gotten sick from it yet, but I'm sure I've got a healthier immune system from exposure to them. I should also say that I spent this week working in an operational elder care facility without catching anything too, which seems surprising.

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2016, 06:42:59 AM »
That natural protective barrier is a form of wax that gets deposited on the shell by the hen when it passes through her cloaca. I interned at an historical farm and learned that simply brushing off the poo, straw, whatever, keeps the integrity of the wax in place. We used eggs that were never refrigerated and were sometimes months old with no problem - folks all over the US were still doing this in the 1800's. We also used the water test.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2016, 10:24:29 AM »
Life used to be so easy.  Need eggs? Get in the car and go get some.

I read this sentence 3 times before I saw "need eggs" instead of "nest eggs"

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2016, 10:37:21 AM »
Life used to be so easy.  Need eggs? Get in the car and go get some.

I read this sentence 3 times before I saw "need eggs" instead of "nest eggs"

Why is that, do you think? Is it the pressure you are under, or something else? I, myself, have too many eggs. It's just too many.

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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2016, 01:45:04 PM »
it will really become second nature to always quadruple check that you have everything needed before stepping on to the saddle.  Unfortunately this is learned the hard way.
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Re: You people have ruined me
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2016, 06:25:37 AM »
it will really become second nature to always quadruple check that you have everything needed before stepping on to the saddle.  Unfortunately this is learned the hard way.
Principally - underwear

If you have underwear on while cycling, you're doing it wrong.  :P