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FIREin2018

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Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« on: February 08, 2022, 05:01:34 PM »
They are basically the same:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/visa-mastercard-difference

"Both are accepted pretty much anywhere that takes credit cards. But the benefits that matter most don't actually come from Visa or Mastercard."

The benefits that matters comes from the banks that issue the credit cards. (ie: cash back)
So why don't the 2 merge?


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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2022, 05:33:02 PM »
Just a guess, but… anti-trust regulations?  I’m not sure FTC would bless that union. 

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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2022, 05:35:02 PM »
I get phone calls from "The Department of Visa and Mastercard" all the time.

Just this week I got one from "The Department of Visa, Mastercard, Discover and American Express".

Apparently, the criminals running these phone scams already treat them as having merged.

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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2022, 05:44:14 PM »
That's like asking why don't any 2 companies that provide the same service merge.....

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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2022, 05:44:19 PM »
This would be an absolutely insane antitrust nightmare and there's no way DOJ would allow it. DOJ didn't even let Visa acquire Plaid!

They're so similar* in large part because they're a duopoly primarily locked in competition with each other (at least, to the extent they're not collectively manipulating the market). If they merged, that competition would go away and pretty much everyone other than Visacard would likely suffer.

*The article you linked is discussing their similarity w/r/t the consumer experience specifically. Keep in mind that they're payment processors, so there are other relevant groups of users--including banks (who decide whether their cards will be Visa cards, Mastercard cards, AmEx cards, etc.) and merchants (who pay a fee to Visa or Mastercard every time a customer pays with one of those cards). I assume Visa and Mastercard are fairly similar for these groups as well, but I've never been a bank or a merchant, so I can't say for sure.

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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2022, 01:07:57 PM »
Why do you want to encourage monopolies? They are bad for you.

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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2022, 01:20:47 PM »
Why do you want to encourage monopolies? They are bad for you.

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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2022, 11:30:06 PM »
It would be better if they did merge.  Right now they are basically colluding as a duopoly, fully in lock step.  There is merely the appearance of competition.  If they merged it would force regulators to step in and hopefully regulate them closer to a utility.

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Re: Why don't Visa and Mastercard merge?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2022, 10:42:20 AM »
+1 on why would you want them to merge?