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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2015, 04:12:48 PM »
I did it when I was in college. Art classes are actually looking for people who look - interesting. (I have a weirdly long neck.)

It is a lot harder than you might think to sit absolutely still for 20 or 30 minutes at a time.

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2015, 05:26:17 PM »
I did it when I was in college. Art classes are actually looking for people who look - interesting. (I have a weirdly long neck.)

It is a lot harder than you might think to sit absolutely still for 20 or 30 minutes at a time.

You're right!  I actually did it once when I was younger (non-nude though) and thinking back it was terribly painful in the days following.  It was 50 minutes at a time several days a week for about a month.  My pose was a seated pose but man did my neck ache by the end of it. 

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2015, 12:02:22 PM »
Hey when you got a good body you got a good body.  LOL but it gets people like you so riled up.  I was actually the second person to cast insult in this thread.  You were the first.  Thanks for playing. ;)

If you have a body, you don't need to go around telling everyone about it. The thing itself is the reward.

And no, I asked a question. You insulted me.

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2015, 12:58:40 PM »
Send pics I'll let you know

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2015, 02:16:26 PM »
Hey when you got a good body you got a good body.  LOL but it gets people like you so riled up.  I was actually the second person to cast insult in this thread.  You were the first.  Thanks for playing. ;)

If you have a body, you don't need to go around telling everyone about it. The thing itself is the reward.

And no, I asked a question. You insulted me.

By that logic I actually responded to your question with a question of my own :rolleyes  You actually came on here and trolled me on this thread with no input on the subject of the OP to date so far as I can tell.

This is interesting to me now, I'd like to hear your logic as to why one cannot brag about their body?  There are all sorts of threads on the MMM forums about people bragging on how much money they've amassed or how they've cut consumption on this or that, hell there's even an entire sub forum on badassity.  So why's the body off limits in your mind?   Especially in a thread about nude modeling.  One of the pillars of MMM is being badass.  There's some reason this upsets you...would you be upset if I went on a thread about drag racing as a side gig and bragged that I had a fast car, assuming I did?  Or is it just the human body?  The whole concept of bodybuilding is developing your body to the best of your ability and standing on a stage mostly naked, posing and showing it off to people.  Nude modeling is also about showing your body off to an audience - maybe not for the purposes of perfection or muscle, but still you're displaying the body to an audience.

If you start a thread about dancing as a side gig I'll go post on there about how crappy of a dancer I am if it makes you feel any better.

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2015, 05:07:33 PM »
Hey when you got a good body you got a good body.  LOL but it gets people like you so riled up.  I was actually the second person to cast insult in this thread.  You were the first.  Thanks for playing. ;)

If you have a body, you don't need to go around telling everyone about it. The thing itself is the reward.

And no, I asked a question. You insulted me.

By that logic I actually responded to your question with a question of my own :rolleyes  You actually came on here and trolled me on this thread with no input on the subject of the OP to date so far as I can tell.

This is interesting to me now, I'd like to hear your logic as to why one cannot brag about their body?  There are all sorts of threads on the MMM forums about people bragging on how much money they've amassed or how they've cut consumption on this or that, hell there's even an entire sub forum on badassity.  So why's the body off limits in your mind?   Especially in a thread about nude modeling.  One of the pillars of MMM is being badass.  There's some reason this upsets you...would you be upset if I went on a thread about drag racing as a side gig and bragged that I had a fast car, assuming I did?  Or is it just the human body?  The whole concept of bodybuilding is developing your body to the best of your ability and standing on a stage mostly naked, posing and showing it off to people.  Nude modeling is also about showing your body off to an audience - maybe not for the purposes of perfection or muscle, but still you're displaying the body to an audience.

If you start a thread about dancing as a side gig I'll go post on there about how crappy of a dancer I am if it makes you feel any better.

Being aesthetically pleasing is badass?  How so?  Because you didn't brag about your hard work or how strong (and as a consequence, capable) you are, or anything like that.  You bragged about looking nice.  I don't really have a dog in this fight, but that's what struck me when I read this post.

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2015, 09:41:15 AM »
Hey when you got a good body you got a good body.  LOL but it gets people like you so riled up.  I was actually the second person to cast insult in this thread.  You were the first.  Thanks for playing. ;)

If you have a body, you don't need to go around telling everyone about it. The thing itself is the reward.

And no, I asked a question. You insulted me.

By that logic I actually responded to your question with a question of my own :rolleyes  You actually came on here and trolled me on this thread with no input on the subject of the OP to date so far as I can tell.

This is interesting to me now, I'd like to hear your logic as to why one cannot brag about their body?  There are all sorts of threads on the MMM forums about people bragging on how much money they've amassed or how they've cut consumption on this or that, hell there's even an entire sub forum on badassity.  So why's the body off limits in your mind?   Especially in a thread about nude modeling.  One of the pillars of MMM is being badass.  There's some reason this upsets you...would you be upset if I went on a thread about drag racing as a side gig and bragged that I had a fast car, assuming I did?  Or is it just the human body?  The whole concept of bodybuilding is developing your body to the best of your ability and standing on a stage mostly naked, posing and showing it off to people.  Nude modeling is also about showing your body off to an audience - maybe not for the purposes of perfection or muscle, but still you're displaying the body to an audience.

If you start a thread about dancing as a side gig I'll go post on there about how crappy of a dancer I am if it makes you feel any better.

Being aesthetically pleasing is badass?  How so?  Because you didn't brag about your hard work or how strong (and as a consequence, capable) you are, or anything like that.  You bragged about looking nice.  I don't really have a dog in this fight, but that's what struck me when I read this post.

I guess I thought it might just be more unnecessary bragging since it really didn't have anything to do with the OP, and I did reference the gym in my original post so assumed it would be implied that I work out.  But since you bring it up, I suppose that could be a legitimate argument that I can try to correct :) 

1. Today was leg day so I just looked in my log book and counted up my weight/reps (squats, deadlifts, calf raises) that I did and calculated a total of 31,075 pounds all lifted before 7am.  I can't say for sure, but I'm guessing that's more than your average American lifts in six months, all just on an ordinary Friday morning.  Multiply that sort of workout by five days a week plus power yoga on the weekends and it really starts to add up.  So I work very hard for my body, which is why I have no problem admitting that it looks pretty awesome.  And I'm getting old too...phew.

3. And for further badassity, all of that was done during what is now my 9th consecutive week of quinolone class antibiotics.  Any medical people here would say that's a pretty badass feat given how they make you feel during long term usage.

4. I'm liking where this is all going.

So my read on your logic is that the end product itself isn't really bad ass (in this case it's being aesthetically pleasing, in your words).  Instead it needs to be qualified with the journey in getting there.  I can work with that.  But the next time someone posts a thread proclaiming they've reached the $100k stash bar, should we consider that needless bragging unless they qualify the number with the method that the money was obtained?  Your implication being that they may have just inherited a majority of it and they shouldn't be bragging about it (similar to just being born with a great body), whereas it would be ok and not considered bragging if they told us that they amassed it through hard work at a 9-5 job?



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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2015, 02:25:00 PM »
Hey when you got a good body you got a good body.  LOL but it gets people like you so riled up.  I was actually the second person to cast insult in this thread.  You were the first.  Thanks for playing. ;)

If you have a body, you don't need to go around telling everyone about it. The thing itself is the reward.

And no, I asked a question. You insulted me.

By that logic I actually responded to your question with a question of my own :rolleyes  You actually came on here and trolled me on this thread with no input on the subject of the OP to date so far as I can tell.

This is interesting to me now, I'd like to hear your logic as to why one cannot brag about their body?  There are all sorts of threads on the MMM forums about people bragging on how much money they've amassed or how they've cut consumption on this or that, hell there's even an entire sub forum on badassity.  So why's the body off limits in your mind?   Especially in a thread about nude modeling.  One of the pillars of MMM is being badass.  There's some reason this upsets you...would you be upset if I went on a thread about drag racing as a side gig and bragged that I had a fast car, assuming I did?  Or is it just the human body?  The whole concept of bodybuilding is developing your body to the best of your ability and standing on a stage mostly naked, posing and showing it off to people.  Nude modeling is also about showing your body off to an audience - maybe not for the purposes of perfection or muscle, but still you're displaying the body to an audience.

If you start a thread about dancing as a side gig I'll go post on there about how crappy of a dancer I am if it makes you feel any better.

Being aesthetically pleasing is badass?  How so?  Because you didn't brag about your hard work or how strong (and as a consequence, capable) you are, or anything like that.  You bragged about looking nice.  I don't really have a dog in this fight, but that's what struck me when I read this post.

I guess I thought it might just be more unnecessary bragging since it really didn't have anything to do with the OP, and I did reference the gym in my original post so assumed it would be implied that I work out.  But since you bring it up, I suppose that could be a legitimate argument that I can try to correct :) 

1. Today was leg day so I just looked in my log book and counted up my weight/reps (squats, deadlifts, calf raises) that I did and calculated a total of 31,075 pounds all lifted before 7am.  I can't say for sure, but I'm guessing that's more than your average American lifts in six months, all just on an ordinary Friday morning.  Multiply that sort of workout by five days a week plus power yoga on the weekends and it really starts to add up.  So I work very hard for my body, which is why I have no problem admitting that it looks pretty awesome.  And I'm getting old too...phew.

3. And for further badassity, all of that was done during what is now my 9th consecutive week of quinolone class antibiotics.  Any medical people here would say that's a pretty badass feat given how they make you feel during long term usage.

4. I'm liking where this is all going.

So my read on your logic is that the end product itself isn't really bad ass (in this case it's being aesthetically pleasing, in your words).  Instead it needs to be qualified with the journey in getting there.  I can work with that.  But the next time someone posts a thread proclaiming they've reached the $100k stash bar, should we consider that needless bragging unless they qualify the number with the method that the money was obtained? Your implication being that they may have just inherited a majority of it and they shouldn't be bragging about it (similar to just being born with a great body), whereas it would be ok and not considered bragging if they told us that they amassed it through hard work at a 9-5 job?




You missed the part of my post where I said you also didn't mention how strong and capable you are.  It isn't just about the path, and certainly we don't need the details of your work out, especially since this is a money forum,  not a fitness forum (which makes the path toward saving $100k a bit more relevant).  But to me, bring pretty isn't valuable, or something one should be especially proud of or boastful about, in and of itself.  It isn't earned.  If part of it is earned via something valuable, like hard work at the gym getting you a strong, lean body, then it's the hard work that has the value, and the capability that comes with that body, not just that the body looks pleasing. 

Also, strength or frugality/saving have value in and of themselves, and they are accomplishments.  Maybe you think being pretty is an accomplishment.  I don't.  If someone posted.  "Hi, I'm new to these forums. I inherited $15m and never had to work or really save or be frugal.  I'm of course FIRE, so please congratulate me," I doubt that would go over very well, because the simple having of money (or of good looks) isn't something most here are likely to value. What we celebrate is the effort, self-reflection, and accomplishment, not just the possession of money.   And the end product is bad ass, if it took bad assity to get there, but then I suppose it's really just that the end product is a sign of that badassity of process.

"I work hard for my body, and I'm pleased with the effort, and the results" is different than, "I look great".

If you think being aesthetically pleasing is a valuable thing, and something of which to be proud in and of itself, so be it.  Personally, I find that a bit shallow, but you don't have to live in my head, and I don't have to live in your head (or in your amazing and attractive body), so that works out well. 

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2015, 02:56:34 PM »
Having been on both sides of the easel, my advice is if anyone is a jerk to you, you can get back at them in a passive aggressive way by posing with an arm or leg outstretched in their direction. Foreshortening is a pain for beginning artists to draw well.

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Re: Side gig: naked model
« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2015, 03:52:25 PM »
You missed the part of my post where I said you also didn't mention how strong and capable you are.  It isn't just about the path, and certainly we don't need the details of your work out, especially since this is a money forum,  not a fitness forum (which makes the path toward saving $100k a bit more relevant).  But to me, bring pretty isn't valuable, or something one should be especially proud of or boastful about, in and of itself.  It isn't earned.  If part of it is earned via something valuable, like hard work at the gym getting you a strong, lean body, then it's the hard work that has the value, and the capability that comes with that body, not just that the body looks pleasing. 

Also, strength or frugality/saving have value in and of themselves, and they are accomplishments.  Maybe you think being pretty is an accomplishment.  I don't.  If someone posted.  "Hi, I'm new to these forums. I inherited $15m and never had to work or really save or be frugal.  I'm of course FIRE, so please congratulate me," I doubt that would go over very well, because the simple having of money (or of good looks) isn't something most here are likely to value. What we celebrate is the effort, self-reflection, and accomplishment, not just the possession of money.   And the end product is bad ass, if it took bad assity to get there, but then I suppose it's really just that the end product is a sign of that badassity of process.

"I work hard for my body, and I'm pleased with the effort, and the results" is different than, "I look great".

If you think being aesthetically pleasing is a valuable thing, and something of which to be proud in and of itself, so be it.  Personally, I find that a bit shallow, but you don't have to live in my head, and I don't have to live in your head (or in your amazing and attractive body), so that works out well.

No I certainly didn't miss your first part, which was why I listed today's workout, I figured that lifting over 15 tons before I went to work was sort of self explanatory in showing that I was strong and capable and worked extremely hard, which it appears you might appreciate however I'm not 100% sure.  But at the same time you say you don't want the details of my workout...so how am I supposed to show I'm strong, just say it?  But isn't that just bragging again?  Mind going in circles...

And I think you're twisting the argument a bit from aesthetically pleasing to pretty, which are two different things in my mind.  I'm guessing you're female based on your response....but I think most females would consider being pretty to be valuable in all sorts of ways, all things equal.  I know I would be happy to be more handsome.  It might seem shallow but I have no problems with a lady knowing she's pretty and owning that.  I've never known a woman who went around bragging that she was pretty to people so I can't say whether that'd annoy me or not, no experience there.  It's something that I could acknowledge as a fact without hating on her though.

But in any case I think you summed it up well enough in your last statement so it's probably not worth arguing about it.  From my perspective - the whole point of bodybuilding is to be as aesthetically pleasing as possible, subjective to the judges of course.  You would consider that as shallow, as you say.  In the case of bbing, you do just happen to become really strong and have to work really really hard to get there, but the end goal is nonetheless to be aesthetically pleasing.  So it seems we're coming at it from two different perspectives.  Live and let live I say.