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Re: Where do you stand on "living with Covid", "getting back to normal"
« Reply #1100 on: March 12, 2022, 08:23:01 AM »
I'm wondering if expensive gasoline will return people to WFH?

Some anecdata from Phoenix metro area:  we're seeing rush hour traffic at 90% of pre-Covid levels, so I think that all of those people who were working from home during the pandemic and insisted they'd never return to the office have, in fact, returned to the office. 
The corporations around here have decided it's time and employees seem to be complying vs. quitting to find that magical WFH job.

Did more than 10% of people really insist that at the time? To me, rush hour traffic being at 90% (and assuming employment is higher than before, as it is in many places, or at least not lower) proves exactly the point you think it disproves.

I admit I may be biased from reading generic articles in different media, along with hearing from some 30somethings that I know how much they loved WFH and were trying everything to not go back to the office.   I'm curious to see what this looks like 6 months - 1 year from now.

And of course as more things open up that require in-person employees:  public facilities, non-emergency medical, restaurants, shops, etc. then more traffic will be generated.  If rush hour traffic never increases beyond the 90% it's still fine, but my guess is we'll see it back to pre-Covid levels here in the near future.

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« Reply #1101 on: March 12, 2022, 10:47:41 AM »
Mask free day in WA!

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« Reply #1102 on: March 12, 2022, 12:41:54 PM »
Bizarrely the mask mandate expired at the beginning of the month, and yet I’m still seeing people in stores wearing masks but with them pulled down under their noses. Why??? Just don’t wear a mask if you don’t want to wear a mask…

Depending on the time of day, I’d say about 75% of people are wearing masks inside, but I go when it’s mostly old people.

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« Reply #1103 on: March 12, 2022, 01:05:16 PM »
Bizarrely the mask mandate expired at the beginning of the month, and yet I’m still seeing people in stores wearing masks but with them pulled down under their noses.

I've (recently) seen people outside with their masks under their noses- this was at a large park so it wasn't like they were going in and out of buildings. It makes no sense... and really shows how many people are using masks (either pro- or anti-) as group signaling rather than some kind of rationalized public good. Thoroughly disappointing how we can be so easily manipulated as a species. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too in ways I'm unaware of, which is the most disappointing part.

I had a really hard time not asking them why- because I was genuinely curious. I don't really care other than I'm curious if there is a reason that I'm missing.
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« Reply #1104 on: March 12, 2022, 01:34:59 PM »
Bizarrely the mask mandate expired at the beginning of the month, and yet I’m still seeing people in stores wearing masks but with them pulled down under their noses.

I've (recently) seen people outside with their masks under their noses- this was at a large park so it wasn't like they were going in and out of buildings. It makes no sense... and really shows how many people are using masks (either pro- or anti-) as group signaling rather than some kind of rationalized public good. Thoroughly disappointing how we can be so easily manipulated as a species. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too in ways I'm unaware of, which is the most disappointing part.

I had a really hard time not asking them why- because I was genuinely curious. I don't really care other than I'm curious if there is a reason that I'm missing.
I'll take a stab at it.  When covid was at its prime, I'd wear my mask like that sometimes outside when I was at a crowded outdoor area so that I could put it back on when I came upon other people.     Even, now I'll wear my mask (correctly though) on occasion outside.   I have to wear a mask at work.   There have been times when I leave work and walk to my car still having my mask on.  I've worn it all day and forget I have it on. 

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« Reply #1105 on: March 12, 2022, 02:19:51 PM »
Bizarrely the mask mandate expired at the beginning of the month, and yet I’m still seeing people in stores wearing masks but with them pulled down under their noses.

I've (recently) seen people outside with their masks under their noses- this was at a large park so it wasn't like they were going in and out of buildings. It makes no sense... and really shows how many people are using masks (either pro- or anti-) as group signaling rather than some kind of rationalized public good. Thoroughly disappointing how we can be so easily manipulated as a species. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too in ways I'm unaware of, which is the most disappointing part.

I had a really hard time not asking them why- because I was genuinely curious. I don't really care other than I'm curious if there is a reason that I'm missing.
I'll take a stab at it.  When covid was at its prime, I'd wear my mask like that sometimes outside when I was at a crowded outdoor area so that I could put it back on when I came upon other people.     Even, now I'll wear my mask (correctly though) on occasion outside.   I have to wear a mask at work.   There have been times when I leave work and walk to my car still having my mask on.  I've worn it all day and forget I have it on.

Yep, this.  I am also guilty of lazily pulling it down off my nose due to being an eyeglass wearer procedure masks fog up  my glasses.  I also have a longish walk from my car to my work where I have to wear a mask, I always put on my mask in my car to minimize the hassle at the door checkpoint.  I can assure anyone interested that I am not practicing in any kind of secret “group signalling”.

If anyone truly is “ Thoroughly disappointing how we can be so easily manipulated as a species.” (seriously, how overly dramatic can you be?), wait until you learn about the human drive to keep up with the Joneses.   Now that is a fucking problem. 

I think what disappoints me about all of this is how often I encounter asinine comments about the intelligence of mask wearers, speculation about their having been manipulated into wearing masks, comments about being sheep, hypothesizing about it being a dog whistle to like minded people to whom one wants to “virtue signal”.  Seriously these folks need to get a life and stop worrying about what others are choosing to wear on their face. 


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« Reply #1106 on: March 12, 2022, 04:30:23 PM »
I wear a mask outside still because it’s still very cold here (it was 4° F this morning.) it’s much, much more comfortable to wear a mask. If I get warned up I’ll pull it down, though.

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Bizarrely the mask mandate expired at the beginning of the month, and yet I’m still seeing people in stores wearing masks but with them pulled down under their noses.

I've (recently) seen people outside with their masks under their noses- this was at a large park so it wasn't like they were going in and out of buildings. It makes no sense... and really shows how many people are using masks (either pro- or anti-) as group signaling rather than some kind of rationalized public good. Thoroughly disappointing how we can be so easily manipulated as a species. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too in ways I'm unaware of, which is the most disappointing part.

I had a really hard time not asking them why- because I was genuinely curious. I don't really care other than I'm curious if there is a reason that I'm missing.
The other day I put on my mask outside because it was cold. Pulled it under my nose because I didn’t need that level of warmth. I’m gonna miss masks in winter - so much lighter weight and easier to tuck away than a scarf!

I was talking to someone recently who was shaking their head about people wearing masks in their cars. I gently pointed out that
a) sometimes ppl forget to take them off and
b) sometimes ppl are going from stop to stop and it’s just easier to leave the masks in place rather than taking them on and off multiple times

It was a lightbulb moment.


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Re: Where do you stand on "living with Covid", "getting back to normal"
« Reply #1108 on: March 13, 2022, 06:51:50 AM »
I wear a mask outside still because it’s still very cold here (it was 4° F this morning.) it’s much, much more comfortable to wear a mask. If I get warned up I’ll pull it down, though.
Yup! Spouse was complaining she had forgotten her scarf on a walk but then realized “oh wait, I e got my mask!” 
I’m glad the pandemic put a ton of innovation into making quality, comfortable and effective masks. Because of work I frequently have to wear them (not because of Covid, but from contamination issues). And our climate makes mask-wearing sensible during the bitterly cold days.

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I’m gonna miss masks in winter

There's no reason you can't keep wearing a mask whenever you want. I really don't like scarves, so I will definitely make use of a mask outside in winter.
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« Reply #1110 on: March 13, 2022, 12:27:23 PM »
Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

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« Reply #1111 on: March 13, 2022, 02:19:33 PM »
Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Depends on if there were zero all year before

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« Reply #1112 on: March 13, 2022, 02:27:15 PM »
Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Depends on if there were zero all year before
There were indeed zero reported cases in this class from Sept 2021 until last week.
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Re: Where do you stand on "living with Covid", "getting back to normal"
« Reply #1113 on: March 13, 2022, 07:28:33 PM »
Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Improbable things happen all the time. However, this is likely not a coincidence.

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« Reply #1114 on: March 14, 2022, 06:01:37 AM »
Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Improbable things happen all the time. However, this is likely not a coincidence.

 Hard to know. Our schools went mask optional back in October. We had an increase in cases in the period after Thanksgiving and after Christmas and most, if not all of them were related to the parents getting COVID first. (we have a very small private school so it's pretty easy to track all this) So it seems that even without masks it didn't spread at school, it spread from adults at home to kids.
So in your case the cases might be coming from the parents doing less mask wearing and in general returning to more normalcy which lead to them getting COVID and the kids then getting it.

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« Reply #1115 on: March 14, 2022, 08:54:18 AM »
Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Improbable things happen all the time. However, this is likely not a coincidence.

 Hard to know. Our schools went mask optional back in October. We had an increase in cases in the period after Thanksgiving and after Christmas and most, if not all of them were related to the parents getting COVID first. (we have a very small private school so it's pretty easy to track all this) So it seems that even without masks it didn't spread at school, it spread from adults at home to kids.
So in your case the cases might be coming from the parents doing less mask wearing and in general returning to more normalcy which lead to them getting COVID and the kids then getting it.

My daughter now has Covid, and two members of the family (including me) now have sore throats and fatigue, though currently negative. I didn't change my life; this is definitely from the school.

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« Reply #1116 on: March 14, 2022, 09:02:31 AM »
Today is mask-free day at the schools.  We decided to have the kids keep them on in class for the time being while watching for upticks in community and school transmission.  We told them that they can take them off whenever outdoors, or during an activity where the masks hamper the experience (e.g. PE and theater).  Going 100% to zero was too big of a leap for us, so we'll monitor for a bit. 

Outdoor masking was apparently only a thing at the school due to convenience - kids misplacing their masks.  Hopefully ours will keep track of theirs.

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« Reply #1117 on: March 14, 2022, 09:59:29 AM »
Masks have been optional at school since the beginning of the school year here, with very few kids wearing them. My daughter wore hers for the first part of the year, until she was able to be vaccinated, and she was one of only 2 kids in her class of 20 who was doing so. We let her stop wearing hers after she was vaccinated, because the one other kid in her class stopped wearing his around the same time.

At the beginning of the school year, during Delta, cases at our school were CRAZY. There were times that over 25% of my daughter's class was out, major teacher shortages, etc. It's hard to say whether the transmission was occurring at school or at home, though, because our community cases were also crazy. Omicron didn't hit nearly as hard in our schools... I'm not sure whether that's because everyone had just had it, or because people had given up on testing.

As far as we know, our daughter never got it from school. I test her with a rapid test at any sign of sniffles/fatigue/etc., and she's also had several PCR tests, when she was sick enough to warrant a pediatrician visit.

(I had COVID back in 2020, when tests were only available through hospital or urgent care. We think my husband also had it, because he was the only one of us who was leaving the house. Our daughter never had signs, so we never had her tested... unsure whether she had it or not.)
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« Reply #1118 on: March 14, 2022, 12:49:25 PM »
Schools are mask free today.  My kids have them in their backpacks.  They don't have to wear them.

I hope I don't regret it ... last week they both tested negative, but spring break is next week.  If they get sick I'll be pissed.

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« Reply #1119 on: April 05, 2022, 04:53:34 PM »
Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Improbable things happen all the time. However, this is likely not a coincidence.

 Hard to know. Our schools went mask optional back in October. We had an increase in cases in the period after Thanksgiving and after Christmas and most, if not all of them were related to the parents getting COVID first. (we have a very small private school so it's pretty easy to track all this) So it seems that even without masks it didn't spread at school, it spread from adults at home to kids.
So in your case the cases might be coming from the parents doing less mask wearing and in general returning to more normalcy which lead to them getting COVID and the kids then getting it.
We got covid from my daughter's class.  It was tracked from one kid in her class to home.  She tested positive, then my husband and I and then my older daughter.
The CDC ran a study and it does show that masking in schools helps decrease COVID infections.  https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7110e1.htm?s_cid=mm7110e1_w

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Re: Where do you stand on "living with Covid", "getting back to normal"
« Reply #1120 on: April 05, 2022, 05:25:38 PM »
So, someone in my house finally got Covid! Maybe from the gym?

Anyway, everyone in our house is vaxed, and the adults are boosted, and no one else ever tested positive. The health dept. said we didn’t even have to stay home. We did break out the reserve of N95 masks, and we used up our supply of free tests.

Honestly, I’m a lot less worried at this point.

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Re: Where do you stand on "living with Covid", "getting back to normal"
« Reply #1121 on: April 05, 2022, 05:40:27 PM »
Completely back to normal in our house. Finally stopped getting hives from my booster reaction. (My doctor said not to even consider another booster for a year since it did such a number on my immune system) We’ve put away all the masks finally. Going to Disney in a week. We will all likely get it at some point but I feel that the vaccines offer enough protection and we’ll be fine.

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« Reply #1122 on: April 05, 2022, 07:54:11 PM »
We’re back to mostly normal. Husband is working from home full-time due to changes at his company, but we’ve been going out. Last weekend was a visit to the museum and restaurant dinner, a couple of weeks ago was a big community function. We’ll mask if needed but aren’t doing it as a regular practice.

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« Reply #1123 on: April 05, 2022, 08:00:44 PM »
If your family is vaccinated and immunocompetent, I would not worry at this point. Anti-vaxxers will die pointlessly, and immunocompromised people should continue precautions. I work with a lot of immunocompromised people so continue to take significant precautions, as I hope other healthcare workers will.

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« Reply #1124 on: April 06, 2022, 05:31:23 AM »
Here's an indication of normalcy where I live:

The 7 day average for new cases is zero in my county and it's been about a month since our last covid death. 

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Hospitalizations in Ontario are on the upswing. But that’s to be expected since most restrictions were lifted a few weeks ago. In light of that, I upgraded to a N95 mask.

We are starting to get closer to normal life though. I’ve gone back to Aquafit classes 3 times a week and we have people over for dinner more often now. We are flying next week for the first time to go to Vancouver Island. Mostly cottages and hiking so little exposure though.

All 3 of us are higher risk here (we do have all 3 shots) so we’re still very cautious and in wait and see mode. Going to give it more time before we return to larger group settings. And probably even longer before we unmask (mostly because I don’t consider it a big deal to slap on a mask every now and then). That said, I don’t mask when I socialize with small groups as I have already accepted the risk of prolonged close contact at that point.


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« Reply #1126 on: April 06, 2022, 08:32:04 AM »
The mayor of Detroit just tested positive. I sincerely hope that vaccination enables him to fare better than the former mayor of my suburb, who died of COVID before the vaccine was available, or the former mayor of the neighboring suburb, who became ill in the first wave, developed long COVID, and never fully recovered.

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« Reply #1127 on: April 06, 2022, 08:34:52 AM »
Here's an indication of normalcy where I live:

The 7 day average for new cases is zero in my county and it's been about a month since our last covid death.

Here's an indication for me... I haven't even looked at the number of cases/deaths in my county for at least a month

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« Reply #1128 on: April 06, 2022, 09:34:16 AM »
I'm still masking in indoor public spaces....just in case I guess. 

I got back from a trip a few weeks ago where I ended up spending almost 24 hours at airports (ugh) and about 5 days later I thought I felt...not even something I could call a "tickle" in my throat, but we're all hyper-aware and a bit paranoid now, right?  Both DH and I remarked on how we had really tough workouts that week, like stuff that should not have been quite so tough.  And I tested negative.  I can't help but suspect that it was a false negative, but not sure what the chances are that both of us would be practically asymptomatic.  We may never know unless we stumble into an antibody test.

In a little over a month we have a big trip planned.  We're going to sort of isolate for about 10 days before the flight.  Masks at grocery stores and we'll forego restaurants and performances that we've been doing recently.  The logistical hassle is just not worth it, even if there was no question of how sick we or other people could get.

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« Reply #1129 on: April 06, 2022, 09:40:29 AM »
We're still mostly being careful while watching the trends.  We have a couple of people in our orbit (kids' friends) who are severely immunocompromised.  While we could certainly cut those people off, we're willing to keep doing the little things like masking indoors.  We are opening up our activities quite a bit, though...just keeping the masks on in public, indoor places.  We have been keeping them off when having friends over.

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« Reply #1130 on: April 06, 2022, 10:37:36 AM »
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Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Depends on if there were zero all year before
There were indeed zero reported cases in this class from Sept 2021 until last week.
In the end, we had 6 children in the class who came down with Covid between 3/7-3/14, including my own child. I am beyond angry, and hoping that we will not see long term effects. The masks went back on in that classroom and they offered remote lessons.

Since then, classes in the school are being hit a few at a time.  My friend's daughter missed the state swimming championship because she had Covid. 

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« Reply #1131 on: April 06, 2022, 12:13:58 PM »
Two weeks ago at Costco probably 50-60% of people had masks on. A couple of days ago it was about 20%. It's about the same at Church - maybe 10-20% of people wearing masks last Sunday.

Our kids just started track and field and there were 1-2 kids at the meet wearing masks - and trying to run. I'm sorry but that's just asinine no matter how you cut it. I saw a handful of adults with masks on but it was maybe five people out of a few hundred at the meet.

Everything has been completely back to normal for us since the state lifted the mask mandate last month. I just checked the case counts map for the first time in a few weeks and it's down to about 100-150 cases per day in the whole state.

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« Reply #1132 on: April 07, 2022, 07:22:32 AM »
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Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Depends on if there were zero all year before
There were indeed zero reported cases in this class from Sept 2021 until last week.
In the end, we had 6 children in the class who came down with Covid between 3/7-3/14, including my own child. I am beyond angry, and hoping that we will not see long term effects. The masks went back on in that classroom and they offered remote lessons.

Since then, classes in the school are being hit a few at a time.  My friend's daughter missed the state swimming championship because she had Covid.

I'm sorry @Poundwise.  Hoping your child has a light case.  The same thing happened to us - daycare removed masks over the summer right after the holiday weekend and 25 came down with COVID, 7 in my kid's classroom including my kid.  My husband still worries the reason our kid sometimes has trouble finding words (that he didn't think was an issue before) is COVID related.  We were super angry, particularly when the director told us "no one could have predicted this".  Actually, I did.  In fact, I reached out 4 different times (immediately on getting the mask email with no warning, on pickup that day almost in tears, scheduled a call with the owner, and an email when guidance came out by APA) to try to explain why this is a bad idea.  At this least time they are keeping them until mid-May.  I am fervently hoping the kids will be able to have at least one vaccination by then.

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« Reply #1133 on: April 07, 2022, 08:37:37 AM »
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Masks went optional in our schools two weeks ago. Most kids went mask free as soon as possible. Now my daughter's class had 3 positive test results out of 25 kids (one March 7, two March 10). Coincidence?

Depends on if there were zero all year before
There were indeed zero reported cases in this class from Sept 2021 until last week.
In the end, we had 6 children in the class who came down with Covid between 3/7-3/14, including my own child. I am beyond angry, and hoping that we will not see long term effects. The masks went back on in that classroom and they offered remote lessons.

Since then, classes in the school are being hit a few at a time.  My friend's daughter missed the state swimming championship because she had Covid.

I'm sorry @Poundwise.  Hoping your child has a light case.  The same thing happened to us - daycare removed masks over the summer right after the holiday weekend and 25 came down with COVID, 7 in my kid's classroom including my kid.  My husband still worries the reason our kid sometimes has trouble finding words (that he didn't think was an issue before) is COVID related.  We were super angry, particularly when the director told us "no one could have predicted this".  Actually, I did.  In fact, I reached out 4 different times (immediately on getting the mask email with no warning, on pickup that day almost in tears, scheduled a call with the owner, and an email when guidance came out by APA) to try to explain why this is a bad idea.  At this least time they are keeping them until mid-May.  I am fervently hoping the kids will be able to have at least one vaccination by then.
I have this issue, with words I have used for decades since I was infected with COVID.  And I agree with you, we all could have predicted this.  People are choosing this and then wanting to pretend it is not the obvious reaction.

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« Reply #1134 on: April 07, 2022, 08:40:02 AM »
Consequences of unmasking: Overseas airlines are having to cancel hundreds of flights as they grapple with coronavirus-related staffing shortages weeks after they ditched rules requiring passengers and staff to mask up in the air. 
 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flights-canceled-covid-mask-rules-airlines/
This pandemic is not gone, and by unmasking we are just making it worse and decreasing the time between variants and increase the time in this pandemic. 

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« Reply #1135 on: April 07, 2022, 09:28:41 AM »
Consequences of unmasking: Overseas airlines are having to cancel hundreds of flights as they grapple with coronavirus-related staffing shortages weeks after they ditched rules requiring passengers and staff to mask up in the air. 
 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flights-canceled-covid-mask-rules-airlines/
This pandemic is not gone, and by unmasking we are just making it worse and decreasing the time between variants and increase the time in this pandemic.

Yeah, but it's marginally more fun for people flying on vacation.  So . . . even trade I guess?

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« Reply #1136 on: April 07, 2022, 09:36:13 AM »
Just flew back from visiting kiddo last week.  Very glad masks were still in effect at that point.

I'll be wearing a mask whenever on public transit from here on out.  I'm not wearing them outside around other people at this point, but in close quarters with folks who may or may not have vaccines/or even other random germs, yep - likely to still be wearing it.  Still wearing it to shop as well, but have gone back to bringing it down for facial recognition on my phone rather than my phone password getting recorded on store security cameras.

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« Reply #1137 on: April 07, 2022, 09:54:55 AM »
We have eased up a lot on mask mandates but they are still required on public transport.   I wish they were still required in grocery stores and really any store since we have to stand in line.  My N95s are in use.

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« Reply #1138 on: April 07, 2022, 10:12:30 AM »
I was glad the mask rules on flights were still in place when I went to Hawaii last month.  They still had masking indoors, too (last state to drop), and a requirement to prove vaccination status or pcr test results in order to avoid a mandatory quarantine upon stepping foot in the state.  Masking on flights is a minor nuisance compared to getting sick and having to quarantine on vacation.

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« Reply #1139 on: April 07, 2022, 10:14:54 AM »
Also, I have 2 different friends in 2 different parts of the USA who both had COVID hit their households this past week.  Home testing and mild infections means that there are a large number of cases going uncounted.  In one case they are pretty sure it was from eating in the break room at work, the other thinks it came from eating at a restaurant while on vacation.  Both of these friends have vaccinated households and have been wearing masks inside to successfully prevent it from spreading to other family members.

I'll still be wearing my masks indoors -- such as going to vote earlier this week -- didn't wear it walking there and back, but did wear it inside. 

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« Reply #1140 on: April 07, 2022, 10:16:02 AM »
Watching the COVID trend numbers. If they start going back up we'll get more cautious. Our kids have had it, DW and I didn't - somehow and we were tested.

Everyone we know seems to be back to normal and there is alot of pent up urgency to go all the places among the friends. We couldn't keep up with their mileage even before COVID.

DW and I are happiest at home with occasional adventures out among the people. Eager for warmer weather so we can go for a float with the kayaks. Want to go hiking. Visiting to a craft/antiques fair on Sat. No masks. Maybe a beach trip later this year.

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« Reply #1141 on: April 07, 2022, 10:21:33 AM »
At this point, it seems like it's a foregone conclusion that eventually everyone will get Covid, it's just a matter of when. I'm happy that the 5 and under shot will be available soon so there's a good chance my little one will be vaccinated when Covid eventually darkens my door.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/when-could-covid-vaccine-begin-for-kids-under-5-and-which-shot-is-best/2790418/

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« Reply #1142 on: April 07, 2022, 10:28:11 AM »
One thing that does not yet seem normal is that so many businesses still have abbreviated hours. I ran an errand this morning and the store doesn’t open until 11 now. I had trouble scheduling a hair cut because the salon is now closed two days/week and has shorter hours overall.

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« Reply #1143 on: April 07, 2022, 10:39:10 AM »
One thing that does not yet seem normal is that so many businesses still have abbreviated hours. I ran an errand this morning and the store doesn’t open until 11 now. I had trouble scheduling a hair cut because the salon is now closed two days/week and has shorter hours overall.

Businesses learned they can still bring in the same amount of revenue while keeping shorter hours so I don't see a lot of businesses going back to their previous operating hours.

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« Reply #1144 on: April 07, 2022, 10:59:05 AM »
It's possible they are still dealing with some staffing shortages too.

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« Reply #1145 on: April 08, 2022, 09:35:22 PM »
In the end, we had 6 children in the class who came down with Covid between 3/7-3/14, including my own child. I am beyond angry, and hoping that we will not see long term effects. The masks went back on in that classroom and they offered remote lessons.

Since then, classes in the school are being hit a few at a time.  My friend's daughter missed the state swimming championship because she had Covid.

I'm sorry @Poundwise.  Hoping your child has a light case.  The same thing happened to us - daycare removed masks over the summer right after the holiday weekend and 25 came down with COVID, 7 in my kid's classroom including my kid.  My husband still worries the reason our kid sometimes has trouble finding words (that he didn't think was an issue before) is COVID related.

Thank you, I hope your child is better too!  My daughter seemed to recover quickly but to me she seems a mite clumsier, and seems to have more trouble following simple directions, i.e. if you ask her to do two simple things, like put away a spice in the spice cabinet and get a different one, she'll do one thing wrong and forget the other thing.  She's usually a smart little girl, just seems a little less smart. :( There could be a lot of reasons she's being like this, though, so we'll give her time.

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« Reply #1146 on: April 08, 2022, 10:12:08 PM »
The new variant seems to be hitting our area. In the last several days a significant number of people in our circle have come down with Covid. Several are quite sick with it too, children as well as adults.
  One family has two middle-school aged children, vaccinated, and both are sick. Sick enough that one was admitted to the hospital today for IV meds and observation, and the other child is going to be admitted if they haven't improved in the morning. So far the rest of the family hasn't tested positive. This whole family had Omicron back in late January.
  We are continuing with the N95 usage and limiting our time indoors in public.

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« Reply #1147 on: April 11, 2022, 05:50:40 PM »
My 86 year old dad just got it, I'm shocked he hadn't had it because he's been going to coffee and church since June of 2020 and had several exposures to people who had it.  His health is really bad but it seems so far the covid is just causing him to cough. 

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« Reply #1148 on: April 11, 2022, 07:20:43 PM »
Several friends and relatives in their 80s, and even one woman we know who is 92, caught covid and all of them recovered and seem to be doing fine. Hopefully your dad will recover fully and quickly, as well, JoJo. Good luck.

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  One family has two middle-school aged children, vaccinated, and both are sick. Sick enough that one was admitted to the hospital today for IV meds and observation, and the other child is going to be admitted if they haven't improved in the morning. So far the rest of the family hasn't tested positive. This whole family had Omicron back in late January.
  We are continuing with the N95 usage and limiting our time indoors in public.

This is quite concerning since as kids they are low risk and then they are vaxxed on top of that. Never fun when someone is ill enough to have to be admitted to hospital.

My antivax, anti-lockdown friend just got it. Although he still tells some people it is just a cold. Bad enough that despite his ultra healthy, vegan, barbells and salads stoked immune system, he has been on prescription strength cough meds and been spending the last 3 days sleeping. He says bad headaches, body aches, and a lot of coughing. The dummy had dinner with his family even when he started feeling sick, not telling them until the next day when his wife sent him off to isolate in the basement. His teen son will be so upset if he gets infected as he has a big tournament next week.


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