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What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« on: April 26, 2015, 05:57:12 AM »
Some earlier-retirement bloggers have pets and some don't.  I'm pretty sure neither MMM Pete nor ERE Jacob have any.  And I'm wondering what's the pet situation in the MMM community, and whether pets and a drive to earlier retirement are seen as compatible or conflicting.

For our part, we've "always" had pet companions.  Right now, we live with 2 youngish cats and 2 elder dogs.  Normally, I don't even think of their upkeep expense because we just bundle it into "groceries plus."  But if I have to put a number to it, the 4 cost about $40 a month to feed.

I do keep track separately of vet and med expenses.  This varies wildly from year to year.  I estimate an average of $750 a year between one thing and another.  (Humm... that might be a low-balled figure.)

The most annoying joker in the deck (to me, anyway) is the cost of pet sitting if we're going to be away even overnight.  That's $40 a day whenever it happens.

BUT our companion animals are part of our lives.  The costs of keeping them are what they are.  We do what we can to keep those costs down.  But the companionship is more than worth it to us.

What's your take on this?

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2015, 06:21:09 AM »
I think pet owners will be very clear on this: they are part of our lives, and they are going nowhere as we didn't buy them just for Christmas. We have two dogs, and our monthly expenses are about £100 a month, including food and vet. The biggest dog is a 130lb Newfoundland so she can chew through quite some food in a single day. Still, they are part of our retirement expenses and I am more than happy to pay for them to have them around. We do treat them as pets though, so no dogs in the sofa, no funny dresses, and basic but quality food will do. They couldn't be happier and they definitely improve our quality of living, so it is a win-win in our point of view.

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2015, 06:23:08 AM »
I have an 11 year old choc lab. I got him when he was 8 weeks old. He was my 16th birthday present.

He's been very cheap. Medical costs over 11 years have probably been maybe $2000 total. Probably less.

Last year I started getting him the "good" dog food which is about $40 for a 30lb bag which lasts about 6 weeks. I eat really healthy so I can justify getting him food that is a step up from the "chicken byproduct" crap I gave him his first 10 years. While he has been very healthy, there's still something about it once I researched the differences.

As you mentioned, the pet sitting is the $ part. I usually have friends/family watch him, but in those other circumstances it gets expensive.

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2015, 06:23:15 AM »
Up until a few weeks ago my wife and I had a cat that we adopted from a shelter in 2012. He was a sickly little guy so we ended up spending close to $120/mo on him on average, between vet visits, medicine and food. Toward the end we had to take him to the ER vet, which is really what emergency funds are for. They wanted to do a kitty CT scan to figure out what was wrong, but in the end there wasn't any point (any possible outcome from the CT scan would be untreatable).

The companionship was absolutely worth the heartache and budget hits, so I'm sure that we'll end up adopting one again at some point down the road. Right now we're working on other plans, including being able to travel for more than a few days at a time without feeling guilty.

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2015, 06:42:06 AM »
We have two large rats that we adopted from the Humane Society.  They cost us about $5 a month in rat chow, and about another $5 a month for litter.  They live in a multilevel ferret cage that cost us about $100 at Petco.  (Sometimes if you get lucky you can find those used on CL).

We didn't know anything about rats until we adopted these guys, but have found out to our delight that they are incredible pets -- smart, happy, and affectionate.  We have had many cats and dogs over the years who were great pets, but honestly the rats have them beat.  The only downside at all is that they do not live very long -- only 2-3 years. 

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2015, 07:32:19 AM »
I will always have a dog. And I'm a big dog person, so $$$. Are they Mustachian? No and maybe a bit "yes"? My dog is my personal trainer, we walk, we hike, we get out no matter what the weather. There are studies that say dog owners tend to be healthier, just because of this. Bad days are just a bit better, because of a wagging tail happy dog, so they get points for emotional therapy as well. And my big dogs are BIG, and there is a security benefit to that, no body messes with us once they see the dog.

Because of protein allergies, and grain intolerance, I do buy the good food for my dog, it's expensive. I am a regular at the vet it seems. We just lost an almost 13 year old Chocolate Lab and as he aged he got more expensive, arthritis meds for dogs are VERY pricey. Rimadyl for dogs runs $95/60, and we were getting that every 3 weeks, along with supplements. But it kept that boy walking for another year and a half. Money well spent in my opinion. It's a good lesson in seeing how medical costs always go up with age, for humans as well as dogs. That is why I am padding my stash, no one can see into the future needs for health.

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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2015, 07:43:20 AM »
I have a small, older dog. Her food costs are low -- maybe $16-$20 a month, though I don't separate it out from my own food budget. There are annual vaccinations ($120) and the cost of a kennel when I am away ($24 per day). I don't travel as much as I used to, but normally a couple of weeks per year. (16 x $24).

I've had bigger dogs before, and they did eat a noticeably larger amount.

The issue is the variable medical expenses, especially in the senior years. I've had four dogs of my own. The first two continued on normally to age 14 and there were minimal expenses in their final days. The third dog developed diabetes at age 13 and had daily insulin shots for year and a half. She then developed chronic infections, and was quite sore from arthritis. Meds allowed her to be happy and comfortable. However, the last year and a half cost $4000. That`s Cdn dollars, so $3200 US today. I helped offset it by giving up meat for a good long time.

The dog I have now is a rescue dog, nearly 12, that I adopted a year and a half ago. She has had really bad teeth and recently had some kind of gastrointestinal issues. I have spent close to $1500 in the last couple of months. I had made the decision to adopt senior dogs from this point on, because I don't mind looking after them and they have such a hard time getting adopted. Bigger vet bills are part of the package. (I confess to having had a bit of a heart-stopping moment when someone asked me how many teeth she had left....)

I really enjoy having pets, though, so that would always be part of my budget. At this point I am able to keep a reserve to pay for the unusual bills, but in the past I still always found a way.

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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2015, 07:49:22 AM »
Forestbound + zrail: sorry for your loss.

I have: 4 rescue dogs, and you DON'T want to know what they cost as all have medical issues. About 30 chickens. 17 ducks, although I missed some nests so am about to have more. 2 BLM burros and an Arabian mare. Seriously considering getting a couple of Nubian does, for yogurt/cheese.

The time and money commitment is substantial.

And I don't care. They're family.

For canine arthritis I've found that Tramadol and vetprofin are giving me better results with less risk than Rimaydil, btw. Locally Costco is cheapest for buying them.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2015, 08:39:04 AM »
I have a 9.5 year old labradoodle, a 2 year old Australian Labradoodle and a 7 month old Australian Labradoodle. The 9.5 and 2 year old ones cost us money to purchase. The 7 month old was free. They Aussiedoodles really don't shed much and my son isn't allergic.

I buy a big bag of Taste of the Wild food (around $40-50) about every month and a half and other than vet bills that's our only expense. We also have an outdoor cat that I buy TJ food for and 9 laying hens and 5 chicks.

The dogs are definitely family - and we treat them as such. The cat I could live without but we took responsibility for him when we got him so we will have him till he dies. The hens are fun :)

The pet sitting is the biggest cost but we just discovered our son's sitter will house sit when we are gone for $40/day which is WAY cheaper than what our pet sitter charged $40/dog/day. And she takes care of the chickens too.
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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2015, 08:45:04 AM »
We have a Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff). He's actually got his head resting on the kitchen table watching me as I type lol He goes through a $35 bag of Kirkland Nature's Domain dog food every 3 weeks and an occasional vet bill. We did sink a fair amount of money into training ($1200), but at 120 lbs and still growing, it was worth it to make him the kind of companion/guard dog we wanted. We don't live in one of those neighborhoods where you see the police every day, but the occasional burglary does happen. I have no worries that while I'm gone, he's keeping my wife and children safe. Besides, who doesn't want a 120 lb lap dog? You can't put a price on that.

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2015, 08:50:43 AM »
We have 4 rescue cats. The cost is about $80 (CAN) every 6 weeks for a huge bag of food and Litter Locker refills we buy in bulk. Litter itself is included in our monthly groceries budget. I keep vet fees separate (our emergency fund covers those fees).

They're a huge part of my life and I don't consider having pets as a significant impact in our goal to reach FI. The cost is minimal for the level of joy they bring us on a daily basis. I wouldn't sacrifice having pets to reach FI sooner. If anything, reaching FI will allow me to care for more abandoned pets ...

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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2015, 08:56:19 AM »
I've always been somewhat of an animal person.  I started out a dog guy.  I have graduated to also now be a cat guy.  We currently have 2 small dogs and 2 cats.  All of them are shelter or "found" animals.  We've had more.  We've had less.  We've had rabbits for a while, too.

My wife is a modern day Ellie May Clampitt.  I do not foresee a day where there are not animals hanging around.  If we were to get rid of them all, we'd probably have the same number in a year or so.  We have some animals just walk up... and the vet already has us tagged as "an easy target" for a needy animal. 

It stings a bit to add it up, but our current costs are around $3k a year.  Yeah, that seems like a lot.  We've had years it was much higher due to illnesses and dealing with old animals.

I think I have a little more realistic view of veterinary care than I used to have.  There was a time I would have spared no cost to keep an animal alive.  In retrospect I realize I was doing this for myself and not for the animal.  I've done things that did not extend quality of life -- like some heroic cardiac care (that failed) and caring for an Alzheimer* dog for several years.  I'd like to think I wouldn't do those things again.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2015, 09:00:07 AM »
My interpretation of the MMM philosophy - stop spending on things you don't truly care about, in order to live "the good life". For us, having a dog as part of the family is a non-negotiable component of the good life. Averaged over the whole year we spend about $50 a month on our 50 lb mutt. Over a 15 year period (my ER goal) that's $16K... not chump change, but I've got no problem working a few extra months on the back end to buy 15 years of fun with a dog.

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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2015, 09:45:59 AM »
I have several birds. Sometimes, yes, I wish I'd remained pet-free, as guardianship of pets makes any sort of travel difficult, and much more expensive, due to boarding costs.
Unlike dogs and cats, which every veterinarian trains for, birds are considered "exotics" and you will not only pay a premium for care, but also may have to travel far to find a vet with the specialized training to properly care for your feathered friend.
Costs? If your little feathery one is healthy, then $150-200/year per bird for vet check up and blood work. Food is reasonable, but somewhat time consuming (daily fruit & veg chop), my birds are small/medium size and a bag of pellets lasts a long time. Probably $20/mo with the fresh produce needs. Macaws probably cost a lot more!
Boarding is expensive, and it usually costs more to board the birds than it did for the airfare of a trip. $13-25/day, per bird.
When something goes wrong health-wise, that's where the wheels come off the bus. $$$! Over the years, I'm pretty sure I've managed to fund a college education for my vet's kids. :-/
I love my birds, though, and happy to have them. They have a really long life span, so they should still be with me in 25+ years. I have provided for them in my will...

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2015, 09:56:55 AM »

Regarding pet sitting expenses:  We've always found it in our best interest to try to find one or two friends that were animal inclined like us.  Then it just becomes a fair trade:  When you leave town, they watch your critters.  When they leave town, you watch theirs.  Usually there's a "I'll buy (or cook) you dinner" -- but going out once with friends isn't such a bad expense.  In any case, it's cheaper than $100 a day at a pet motel.

You might also check at your vet's office.  Often times the receptionist up front has a side gig where they'll sit with or visit your pet for a relatively low cost.  Sometimes that means your baby gets special treatment where they go to work with him/her and sit up front at the desk entertaining everyone that comes in.

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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2015, 10:28:05 AM »
Newfoundland, 200 pounds.  He gets a joint medication formulated for horses that costs me about 200/ year.  One wellness exam per year, 50.00.  fish oil for his joints and coat, 35.00 every other month.
St. Bernard, 140 pounds, yearly wellness exam 50.00. Plus food (see below).
Leonberger, 135 pounds, yearly wellness exam 50.00
PetCo delivers the food free, with pet points (or whatever they're called) the food is about 150/month.  They are all on diets currently, so the food cost went down a little.
One 8 year old cat with kidney and bladder troubles.  Yearly trips to vet, 50.00. Medicated food is 75.00 every other month
One normal orange cat.  Skips yearly wellness exams...what's the point?  Eats medicated food of the other cat.

Overall budget per year is about 3000 for the whole herd, more if you count paint and lumber for repairs to fences, decks, inside spaces they have messed up, etc.  we are over-dogged at the moment and I find myself wishing there were only two 10 pound chihuahua's in my life instead of the weight equivalent of nearly 50 of them. If I did it over again, I'd probably not have any of them.  Oh, fuck it.  Who am I kidding.  I can't live without a Newfoundland and the others are okay too.

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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2015, 10:41:25 AM »
We have 3 pets -- two dogs and a cat.  And we kind of want a third dog...keep coming back to it every couple weeks and going "nahhh" -- but this has been happening for a few months now so we'll probably cave eventually xD  I'm a horse girl, but we can't afford a horse right now, so I like to joke that I'm going to collect dogs until we get to the weight equivalent of a horse ;)

The dogs are: 2 year old female Great Dane, ~100 lbs & 1 year old male Weimaraner/Basset Hound mix, ~70 lbs

If we get a third it'll be another Dane rescue -- I don't really like paying for purebred pups.  Both dogs we have now are rescues -- the Weim was formally adopted (~$500) and the Dane was free to us (family couldn't keep her, breeder arranged 'adoption' but we didn't go through a formal rescue).

We budget $200 a month for all 3 pets.  That covers food and regular annual vet appointments.  Unfortunately the Dane has been having some chronic medical issues lately...I spent $800ish in the last week on 3 separate vet appointments :(   But that was one emergency visit and also includes some supplements that she'll likely be on for the rest of her life, and is not going to be a regular occurrence once we get this all sorted out (she's having weird, severe chronic UTI and skin allergy symptoms...idk).  The Weim gave me a scare about an ACL tear a month or two ago, but ended up being fine after a week of painkillers, so that was a bullet dodged. 

The cat is zero-maintenance.  I've been really bad about even bringing him in for an annual exam in the past, but now that we have the dogs and he's exposed to more stuff from outdoors, I'm trying to be better about it.  I never skipped them due to cost, just due to not really seeing the point.

They're not mustachian at all, but like someone said upthread -- can't imagine life without my 100 lb lapdog ;)

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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2015, 10:53:21 AM »
One 17 year old cat.  I've wanted a dog since 'my' dog died when I was 17, but in 25 years there has never been a right time to do it responsibly.  That will likely change in the next couple of years.

Our cat hasn't been particularly expensive, and won't be in the future.  A few vet visits early on (getting fixed, shots), a couple over the years.  Maybe totalling $1500 all in.

We've always bought him the good food, which has added up over the years.  It is likely at least part of why he is still alive and healthy (that and outdoor living for part of his life).

We have coyotes in the neighbourhood, and raccoons.  The old cat is wily, which means he's managed to avoid them all this time.  And his life is good.  In the end he will likely be coyote food.  If it comes to a health issue - he's a 17 year old cat.  He'll be comfortable and loved to the end.

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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2015, 11:14:15 AM »
One 5year old 50# mutt.

 Adopted from animal shelter at 8 weeks for $100.  Since then, he's been very healthy. Has a checkup once a year & rabies shot, for $75 . fleakiller & food is ~$50/mo.  Total annual expense of ~$700.  We trade pet sitting w/ 2 other DINKWAD couples we know.  Never have paid to leave him at a kennel. Never buy toys, just give him old rubber or leather things to chew on.  As mentioned above, the overall benefits to mental & physical health of always having a happy dog around are well worth the $1.92/day.
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2015, 11:35:25 AM »
2 rescue unwanted/dogs - got them as puppies - didn't pay a cent. Had them sterilized and both have had one other op. Now they are 9 and 10 years old. They both on decent senior dog food - when the one was three, he started having problems with his joints so switched him to senior dog food because of the added glusamen (sp) - works a treat.

We are also the only people that do not have a feeding time for our dogs - there is food for them 24/7 - they decide how much and when they want to eat. The one dog we be called skinny, the other slightly over weight - but not obese. Means we can leave them for 24 hours if we want to spend the night away - which is handy also stops having dogs going ballistic at feeding time. Definitely earn their keep as security never mind being great fun to have around.

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« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2015, 12:08:43 PM »
We have two cats and I calculated our that their daily expenses are about $1.50/day (basically food + cat litter).  We figure an additional $400/year for their annual checkup and shots, although at any time they could wind up costing us thousands more in emergency bills.  See: http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/welcome-to-the-forum/when-fi-isn%27t-about-re-the-sick-cat-edition/msg619858/#msg619858
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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2015, 12:54:22 PM »
I have 2 cats. They're healthy, so vet costs are minimal (for now). I don't buy the really expensive food. Average less than $100 a month for absolutely everything.

Regarding having pets, I think if you are aware of the costs, both financial and non-financial, and are willing to properly care for an animal, then it's up to you. Some people don't want pets, and that's fine. My problem is when someone wants the pet, but isn't willing or able to properly care for it.

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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2015, 01:38:47 PM »
I've had one cat since midway through law school; he's been the cheap pet, maybe $40/m even when the annual exam and vaccines get factored in (and his adoption fee was only $50).

Adding the dog turned the costs up to 11, though she's well worth it; adding a second cat more than doubled the cat costs (I'm still not sure how, but two cats definitely eat more than twice and require more than twice as much litter as one) and was less worth it (sorry, buddy, but you and I both know it's true ;).

It's hard to imagine life without pets, but it's not too hard to imagine being back in the situation I was in with just the one cat, where I could go away for a long weekend or, honestly, even for a full week and know he'd be fine. Lots of food, lots of water, an extra clean litterbox, and I'd come home to find him mildly annoyed but otherwise chill.

With the dog, I have to factor in boarding costs if I go anywhere, although I can often leave her with my parents and fly out of their local airport instead of mine.

Between the three of them, the costs are about $150/m, higher if I've been taking a series of classes (obedience, agility) with the dog. More than my phone + internet, less than my disability insurance, and, of course, a personal value to me higher than rubies. Except maybe the second cat, who's a menace. It's a good thing he's cute and fuzzy.

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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2015, 02:47:19 PM »
2 rescue unwanted/dogs - got them as puppies - didn't pay a cent... We are also the only people that do not have a feeding time for our dogs - there is food for them 24/7 - they decide how much and when they want to eat...

Same here on both counts.

Over the years, we have had well over 2 dozen cats and half-a-dozen dogs.  Some were adoptions from animal shelters, but the vast majority were off-the-street rescues of clearly at-risk animals.  All except one cat-killer dog turned out great.

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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2015, 03:20:03 PM »
I have a 14yo cat and a 4yo dog. Cat costs me nothing, other than food, he had not been to the vet in over 5 years. Dog costs me his annual vaccination fee, food and boarding kennel fees when we are away. So over last year, dog has cost me $450 (vet + kennels) and they both cost me about $11 per week for food.

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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2015, 03:25:30 PM »
We have 4 old dogs-ages 10-16. Three small & 1 big. The high quality food & meds are about $200/month.  WE have had some major expensive vet bills. I figure we have spent about $25,000 in past 10 years. Vets are really expensive in this part of the country.  As they naturally go we will get down to 1 or 2.  All rescues & we have been suckers in the past for taking others old dogs they no longer wanted but no more.

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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2015, 03:56:16 PM »
10 year old brittany spaniel.  Probably $30 month for food, $20 a month for flea and heartworm preventive and a yearly $200 vet visit.  He is worth every penny.  Now that he is an old man, I expect more vet bills but I will pay them unless it gets to be ridiculous money.

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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2015, 04:41:43 PM »
I've given up on pets. I had a dog who ate the drywall in my living room when it got bored. I'm sure that cost me thousands when I was selling my house, but I couldn't deal with replacing the drywall at that point in my life.

I also had a cat who lived to be 19, and was super low maintenance until the last year when a vet and my daughter guilted me into paying far too much money to postpone the inevitable for a few months.

I'm done with that. It's not just the money. I don't want to avoid biking to and from work because I have to get home to let a dog out; I don't want to spend my retirement years picking up dog shit. I just don't want to be tied down. I liked that my cat was chill about being home alone for a week if I left a giant bowl of dry food out and the toilet seat up, but my husband was allergic to it. I didn't realize until the cat died that his snoring that caused me so much misery and sleep deprivation was all from the cat. I sleep okay now, I can go where I want when I want, life is just so much more pleasant and less stressful for me without those issues.

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« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2015, 09:20:56 PM »
I'd love to have dogs, but plan to wait for FIRE. After FIRE I look forward to fostering (have done it in the past and loved it). I won't lie, I do miss the fun and companionship. Luckily, I live in a no-pets rental so it's just not an option right now.
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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2015, 01:05:00 AM »
Our rabbit costs about $10 a month tops.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2015, 01:25:15 AM »
Growing up we had 2 Staffordshire bull terriers. They were fantastic dogs. I have 3 kids and I don't have any animals excluding the kids now. My wife is hopeless with animals. In stating that I do intend to get a dog (possibly from a shelter) but I don't intend to do so until getting to FIRE. The costs of animals are way too high.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2015, 03:58:05 AM »
I have one cat. He probably costs me 20-30 bucks to feed a month because he is nt a huge eater. Other than that, I get him groomed a couple of times a year (he is a Persian so needs a haircut when it gets hot) and we visit the vet once a year for shots and a check up.

When we go away, we have someone come by once a day to feed him and that costs $10.

He is worth every cent of that and more.

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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2015, 06:03:26 AM »
We have a 6 year old retired racing greyhound.  When we totaled up her costs, it comes to about $1000 a year.

She's healthy, so that figure is mostly food, vaccinations, toys, treats, and other consumables like toothpaste and vetwrap (she's terribly clumsy!).  It all adds up fast!

We manage to not need to pay for boarding by swapping dogsitting with friends and neighbors.  While this means we have another dog in the house at least once a month... it also means we don't feel bad about taking a last minute trip somewhere and leaving the dog with our neighbor.

It's also nice to know that someone who knows her personality and needs will be watching her.

We certainly expect that the overall number will increase as she ages.  But man is she absolutely worth every cent.

One of our key tenets is to spend lavishly on the things that make us the happiest and optimize the crap out of everything else.  Frugal Hound definitely fits into the first category! :-)


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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2015, 09:36:04 AM »
Always had a dog, always will. This is a non-negotiable for me. Right now we only have a 13 year old Poodle mix. He slipped a disc in January - that cost us a cool grand. On March 26 my 14 year old Min Pin passed away from mast cell cancer, between moderate life saving measures ( 1 surgery, then medications to control growth, we never pursued chemo or anything of that nature, she was 14 after all) that came out to maybe 2k. All worth it in my opinion. That is the chance you take on when you adopt senior dogs. Other than those 2 events our pet ownership has been pretty low. Food is about $20 a month, meds are $15 a month (Trifexis) and suppliments are about $15 a month.

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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2015, 09:45:01 AM »
One dog (see avatar) - her food is about $30 per month, plus heartworm and flea/tick treatment, and annual vet costs for vaccines. She is only 2 so she hasn't had any significant health problems. Her biggest expense is dog sitting (I pay a friend's daughter $15 per day when I am away) and occasionally doggy daycare when the weather is too cold to let her outside while I am at work. I bathe and groom her myself, but pay $12 for them to clip her nails at daycare every few months.

One geriatric cat - so far no major health problems. His food is less than $10 per month. Annual vaccines, no other vet costs.

Two geriatric cat - died in FEB - after several years of expensive vet visits and medications for 3 years. The house call from the vet to put her down was $300 but was easier emotionally to handle than doing it at the vet office.

Two new kittens - this week. They were $75 each to adopt but are already spayed and have first set of shots. They need another set in a few weeks (about $100 total), and then another set down the road. Being cats, their food is pretty cheap. Being kittens (2 months old) they are uber adorable and worth every penny. My neighbor takes care of my cats when I am away (and I take care of hers when she is away) so there is no cost associated with their care.

This is my first dog - and I am finding her to be enjoyable - but smelly, farty, time consuming, and expensive. She is wonderful but likely when her time passes I will go back to being only a cat person.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2015, 10:23:58 AM »
We have a 6 year old retired racing greyhound.  When we totaled up her costs, it comes to about $1000 a year.

She's healthy, so that figure is mostly food, vaccinations, toys, treats, and other consumables like toothpaste and vetwrap (she's terribly clumsy!).  It all adds up fast!

We manage to not need to pay for boarding by swapping dogsitting with friends and neighbors.  While this means we have another dog in the house at least once a month... it also means we don't feel bad about taking a last minute trip somewhere and leaving the dog with our neighbor.

It's also nice to know that someone who knows her personality and needs will be watching her.

We certainly expect that the overall number will increase as she ages.  But man is she absolutely worth every cent.

One of our key tenets is to spend lavishly on the things that make us the happiest and optimize the crap out of everything else.  Frugal Hound definitely fits into the first category! :-)


My parents have a 15 year old 85-90lb Rescued Greyhound (he's a tall guy!) that costs about the same per year and he hasn't had any major health expenses to speak of in the 11 years they have had him. Frugal hound looks just like the one that I had when I was growing up!

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2015, 10:57:26 AM »
We have two kitties, 2 and 4 years old. We budget about $40/month for their food and litter and vet. So far we've only really needed to take them in for yearly checkups, although one had to go to the cat ER when he was a baby because I thought he had a concussion.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2015, 12:08:04 PM »
My interpretation of the MMM philosophy - stop spending on things you don't truly care about, in order to live "the good life". For us, having a dog as part of the family is a non-negotiable component of the good life.

+1.  I don't spend on what I don't care about (fashion, the latest "stuff", etc.) but the menagerie is family and a commitment we made to innocent creatures to give them a good home and a comfortable life.  The joy they've brought in return has been worth the considerable investment.  We've got a dog and two cats, all geriatric at the same time, and all with medical issues.  But, the cats were mine from kittens and have been with me 17 years, while the golden retriever my husband and I picked out together the year before we were married, some 13 years ago. 

Costs?  In addition to the usual upkeep stuff (feeding a good but non-designer foods), one cat is diabetic and gets insulin twice a day.  A vial of insulin plus needles is I'm guessing $100 every 6-8 weeks.  The other cat is on thyroid medication, but that's much cheaper, maybe $30 every two months.  There's also at least one extra vet visit per year each, to check their glucose/thyroid levels relative to medication dosage.  Our dog was diagnosed with hip dysplasia at 5-6 years old and we've spent a lot to keep him active and pain-free since then.  He's had stem cell therapy twice, which was actually the more mustachian choice compared to other therapies.  $1500 per surgery, but effects lasted two years each time, vs. monthly injections or other therapies (both the cost of medicines and the vet visits to administer them were avoided by going the stem cell way).  Now he's simply on anti-inflammatory medication, and my guess is a dollar per day.

So, we did hit the reverse lottery with animals with health issues, but all are still enriching our household all these years later.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2015, 01:05:36 PM »
This is an awesome thread! I absolutely love dogs and have been convincing my hubby to let us have one. So we are planning on getting a Jack Russell Terrier puppy in the Fall. I just have one issue that I'm hoping someone can help me with. Being mustachians, we live in a one bedroom apartment and my husband and I both work Mon-Fri 8-4/5. I feel awful at the thought of leaving a dog in an apartment all day. My husband does come home for lunch everyday, and my workplace is pet friendly so I could always bring the dog with me on some days. But what do most people do if they live in apartments or don't have back yards?

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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2015, 02:00:00 PM »
Jack Russells have very high energy. Not good apartment dogs. If bored they will get into things. I would either get an old Jack Russell or get a lazy, mellow breed such as the Maltese. They are not even hyper when puppies.

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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2015, 02:07:35 PM »
Jack Russells have very high energy. Not good apartment dogs. If bored they will get into things. I would either get an old Jack Russell or get a lazy, mellow breed such as the Maltese. They are not even hyper when puppies.

+1 - not a good breed to be an apartment dog, home alone all day. A friend had one and the dog destroyed his house - tore the carpet up all over the place, dug through the plywood subfloor, destroyed doors with digging (this process took like less than 1 weeks). They are cute as heck - but not the right breed choice for your circumstances.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2015, 02:18:07 PM »
This is an awesome thread! I absolutely love dogs and have been convincing my hubby to let us have one. So we are planning on getting a Jack Russell Terrier puppy in the Fall. I just have one issue that I'm hoping someone can help me with. Being mustachians, we live in a one bedroom apartment and my husband and I both work Mon-Fri 8-4/5. I feel awful at the thought of leaving a dog in an apartment all day. My husband does come home for lunch everyday, and my workplace is pet friendly so I could always bring the dog with me on some days. But what do most people do if they live in apartments or don't have back yards?

I have a lab and a golden retriever, and they are great staying home all day while I'm at work. I live pretty close to work though, so my commute is minimal. I'm not leaving the house early or coming home very late. Also, I take them on long walks both in the morning and at night, to leave them exhausted while I'm gone.

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« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2015, 02:18:41 PM »
I have a rescue cat, not sure how old.  Probably 5-7 YO.  She is a wonderful companion and not expensive so far.  She eats Costco food (good quality dry) and has been healthy so far, so it's just the cost of food, litter and vet checkup/vaccinations once a year.  I would like to get a dog when I FIRE so that I have a hiking companion (cats are not great hikers ;-)
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« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2015, 02:45:15 PM »
We have two cats! They're pretty inexpensive as is, but I've worked towards reducing their costs even further. We get the cheapest, largest clumping litter ($7-$10 for 29 lbs).  I used to use the litter locker, but I decided it's rediculous to buy bags when I get free grocery store bags!  Using them now and no smell issues :)

I feed them one can of the cheapest grain free wet food, dry food is a different story- using expensive prescription food, trying to switch over to regular, not sure of the cost. Unfortunately last year they had a lot of health issues, seem to be doing fine now. For toys I randomly will get something at the dollar store.

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2015, 05:24:31 PM »
We have two cats! They're pretty inexpensive as is, but I've worked towards reducing their costs even further. We get the cheapest, largest clumping litter ($7-$10 for 29 lbs).  I used to use the litter locker, but I decided it's ridiculous to buy bags when I get free grocery store bags!  Using them now and no smell issues :)

I feed them one can of the cheapest grain free wet food, dry food is a different story- using expensive prescription food, trying to switch over to regular, not sure of the cost...

That's funny.  Our story is the same as far as cats go.  BTW, we get the clumping litter at Walmart that runs around $6.50 or so for 20 pounds.  But for their dry food the lucky idiots get "Grillers," which they absolutely love.

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« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2015, 05:29:52 PM »


1 indoor cat.

Annual costs:

- vet = $0
- litter = $360
- food = $365
- toys/accessories = $50

Total = $775/yr

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« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2015, 07:35:14 PM »
We have a dog and 8 cats, all rescues.   Average costs are about $500 per month, including the care for chronic medical issues with the elderly pets.   We know that when we retire we can't afford so many, but most of them were abandoned during the housing meltdown in 2007/2008.   They are family.   

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« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2015, 07:43:06 PM »
I just tallied my pet costs from last year. It's way more than I thought! The combined total added up to $7634. I knew it was a lot, but wow.

The hubby and I have no human children and the following fur-kids:

Cane Corso mastiff (hypothyroid, several vet visits and one pet ER visit last year)
Aussie mixed breed rescue dog ($100 adoption fee last year)
Old-and-busted mare who eats a lot of food and needs lots of meds
Mammoth donkey (dental issues, eats grain now)
Mini Donkey (cheap eater)

The dogs cost me approximately $1508 last year, including food, treats, and vet care. Food and treats cost $480 while we spent $1028 in vet costs investigating our mastiff's hypothyroidism.

The horse and donkeys cost me $6156 for hay, feed, vet care, farrier care (hoof trims), and meds plus supplements for the mare.  I spent $2750 on vet care and meds, $400 on MSM and glucosamine for the mare's arthritis, $1560 for feed and hay, and $1446 for the farrier to trim their feet every six weeks or so.

I love my fur-kids and will probably always have animals of some sort, but my animal finances do seem a bit ironic to me. I often feel like I get 80% of my pet-ownership satisfaction from my dogs since they spend so much time with me at home and out on hikes, yet I only spent 20% of my money on them last year. I spend less than 20% of my recreation time with my equines (and waaaaay more time cleaning up after them), yet they account for 80% of my money. I think I see the Pareto Principle at work here, with my dogs being the star employees and the horses being the slackers! :)

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Re: What pets have you got? What are the costs?
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2015, 08:00:18 PM »
One cat, about $30 a month food. One horse boarded in the lap of luxury. Let's just say JMo, I hear you!

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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2015, 03:45:33 AM »
I just tallied my pet costs from last year. It's way more than I thought! The combined total added up to $7634. I knew it was a lot, but wow.

The hubby and I have no human children and the following fur-kids:

Cane Corso mastiff (hypothyroid, several vet visits and one pet ER visit last year)
Aussie mixed breed rescue dog ($100 adoption fee last year)
Old-and-busted mare who eats a lot of food and needs lots of meds
Mammoth donkey (dental issues, eats grain now)
Mini Donkey (cheap eater)

The dogs cost me approximately $1508 last year, including food, treats, and vet care. Food and treats cost $480 while we spent $1028 in vet costs investigating our mastiff's hypothyroidism.

The horse and donkeys cost me $6156 for hay, feed, vet care, farrier care (hoof trims), and meds plus supplements for the mare.  I spent $2750 on vet care and meds, $400 on MSM and glucosamine for the mare's arthritis, $1560 for feed and hay, and $1446 for the farrier to trim their feet every six weeks or so.

I love my fur-kids and will probably always have animals of some sort, but my animal finances do seem a bit ironic to me. I often feel like I get 80% of my pet-ownership satisfaction from my dogs since they spend so much time with me at home and out on hikes, yet I only spent 20% of my money on them last year. I spend less than 20% of my recreation time with my equines (and waaaaay more time cleaning up after them), yet they account for 80% of my money. I think I see the Pareto Principle at work here, with my dogs being the star employees and the horses being the slackers! :)


My firsts thought was  you should see how much farrier school costs. Could be a side gig as well as a money saver.