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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #700 on: November 13, 2019, 02:23:16 PM »
Today's reason: annual training at work. It used to take 2 hours a year. Now we're up to 7.5. Ugh.

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« Reply #701 on: November 13, 2019, 03:41:03 PM »
Today's reason: annual training at work. It used to take 2 hours a year. Now we're up to 7.5. Ugh.

Yes! Training.  Definitely won't miss that after I take the leap. 

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #702 on: November 13, 2019, 06:41:06 PM »
We have a fancy overpriced oversized coffee machine at work — this thing is probably 3 feet tall and likely costs a few thousand dollars. Unfortunately the coffee tastes like watered-down dirt water and sadness :(

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« Reply #703 on: November 14, 2019, 06:52:57 AM »
We have a fancy overpriced oversized coffee machine at work — this thing is probably 3 feet tall and likely costs a few thousand dollars. Unfortunately the coffee tastes like watered-down dirt water and sadness :(
I was going to ask what sad work coffee tastes like, but I suppose any coffee from work is sad coffee :-(

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #704 on: November 14, 2019, 07:17:05 AM »
We have a fancy overpriced oversized coffee machine at work — this thing is probably 3 feet tall and likely costs a few thousand dollars. Unfortunately the coffee tastes like watered-down dirt water and sadness :(
I was going to ask what sad work coffee tastes like, but I suppose any coffee from work is sad coffee :-(

I am not a coffee drinker, but we have sad chocolate milk at work, from a similar fancy looking machine. The end product just doesn't have much taste at all, it is watery.

Luckily for me, someone has put a pot of cacao beside it, so I always put two spoons of cacao powder in my cup, before I select chocolate milk from the machine. After some mixing, it becomes acceptable.

Home made chocolate milk with chunks of dark chocolate melted into milk and some herbs added is of course even better, but makes you fat.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #705 on: November 14, 2019, 07:53:11 AM »
One feature we have at work is what I call "Lowest Bidder Coffee".  Essentially, work buys massive amounts of the cheapest coffee available. It's brown, usually has a slight oily sheen to it and on a good day, tastes like licking the outside of a Starbucks cup.

We have a fancy overpriced oversized coffee machine at work — this thing is probably 3 feet tall and likely costs a few thousand dollars. Unfortunately the coffee tastes like watered-down dirt water and sadness :(
I was going to ask what sad work coffee tastes like, but I suppose any coffee from work is sad coffee :-(

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #706 on: November 14, 2019, 09:19:36 AM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #707 on: November 14, 2019, 09:21:31 AM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #708 on: November 14, 2019, 09:33:56 AM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

Vegetable crisper!

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #709 on: November 14, 2019, 09:37:30 AM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

Are you throwing shade?  Or just unfamiliar with common kitchen appliances?

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #710 on: November 14, 2019, 10:50:04 AM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

Are you throwing shade?  Or just unfamiliar with common kitchen appliances?
There are Meat Drawers in a fridge???
Here in Germany we only have vegetables drawers, and surely not because of the lack of meat.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #711 on: November 14, 2019, 10:56:11 AM »
We have a fancy overpriced oversized coffee machine at work — this thing is probably 3 feet tall and likely costs a few thousand dollars. Unfortunately the coffee tastes like watered-down dirt water and sadness :(

The good coffee at work is the one thing I WILL miss...we have a fancy espresso machine with good coffee beans. The current coffee is actually my favorite that I buy at home (Peets).

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #712 on: November 14, 2019, 12:00:13 PM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

Are you throwing shade?  Or just unfamiliar with common kitchen appliances?
There are Meat Drawers in a fridge???
Here in Germany we only have vegetables drawers, and surely not because of the lack of meat.

Every drawer is a meat drawer if your priorities in order.

it was a joke

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #713 on: November 14, 2019, 12:46:06 PM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

Are you throwing shade?  Or just unfamiliar with common kitchen appliances?
There are Meat Drawers in a fridge???
Here in Germany we only have vegetables drawers, and surely not because of the lack of meat.

Every drawer is a meat drawer if your priorities in order.

it was a joke

So was putting my vegetarian meal in a box with dead animal parts.  I get enough of those jokes at work thank you.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #714 on: November 14, 2019, 08:57:15 PM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

Are you throwing shade?  Or just unfamiliar with common kitchen appliances?
There are Meat Drawers in a fridge???
Here in Germany we only have vegetables drawers, and surely not because of the lack of meat.

Every drawer is a meat drawer if your priorities in order.

it was a joke

So was putting my vegetarian meal in a box with dead animal parts.  I get enough of those jokes at work thank you.
I'm allergic to milk and all things made from it like cheese and butter.  Usually work lunches they will get some bbq wings to go with the pizza, but after a particularly rough work week last week they bought just pizza for the team. 

It smelled like sadness to me :-(

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #715 on: November 15, 2019, 12:15:43 AM »
I've worked here three years.  THREE YEARS and today is the FIRST TIME that they've included a vegetarian option for me in the office wide company lunch.  My petty reason?  Let me quote the company email:

Lunch is here!  It has been put in the refrigerator.  Get it at your leisure.
You will get 1 meal, 1 bag of accessories and 1 CAN of soda.  There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

in the MEAT DRAWER - sheesh

Is there any other kind of drawer in a fridge?

Are you throwing shade?  Or just unfamiliar with common kitchen appliances?
There are Meat Drawers in a fridge???
Here in Germany we only have vegetables drawers, and surely not because of the lack of meat.

Every drawer is a meat drawer if your priorities in order.

it was a joke

So was putting my vegetarian meal in a box with dead animal parts.  I get enough of those jokes at work thank you.

That's a seriously nasty thing to do. Especially if it has been going on for years. Is there anyone at work you can talk to about this? Otherwise I would seriously consider changing jobs. What this is is bullying, plsin and simple, it's not funny at all. If you choose to not eat one type of food that's 100% not anyone else's business and finally ordering lunch that meets your dietary requirements and then putting it in the meat drawer is just mean. It would be hard for me to work with those kind of people. It would always be in the back of my mind while talking to them.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #716 on: November 15, 2019, 03:24:35 AM »
One feature we have at work is what I call "Lowest Bidder Coffee".  Essentially, work buys massive amounts of the cheapest coffee available. It's brown, usually has a slight oily sheen to it and on a good day, tastes like licking the outside of a Starbucks cup.

We have a fancy overpriced oversized coffee machine at work — this thing is probably 3 feet tall and likely costs a few thousand dollars. Unfortunately the coffee tastes like watered-down dirt water and sadness :(
I was going to ask what sad work coffee tastes like, but I suppose any coffee from work is sad coffee :-(

Our office is similar. Very fancy expensive machine that uses the cheapest shittest beans they can lay their hands on. Coffee always tastes burnt. I have iced water instead :-(

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #717 on: November 15, 2019, 04:57:49 AM »
That's a seriously nasty thing to do. Especially if it has been going on for years. Is there anyone at work you can talk to about this? Otherwise I would seriously consider changing jobs. What this is is bullying, plsin and simple, it's not funny at all. If you choose to not eat one type of food that's 100% not anyone else's business and finally ordering lunch that meets your dietary requirements and then putting it in the meat drawer is just mean. It would be hard for me to work with those kind of people. It would always be in the back of my mind while talking to them.
I have a different opinion. It's unlikely that the "Meat" drawer in a workplace is used to store raw meat. It was probably selected because it had nothing in it and it was a way of protecting it from being grabbed by the wrong person. It's just a drawer. Changing jobs over this would be a colossal overreaction. If you choose to be a vegetarian, you must accept that you are outside the norm or you will loose your mind. The rest of the world is cannot be expected to have the same level of awareness of what your dietary choices involve. To expect them to is folly. I interpreted the OP's comment as mildly amusing with a side of wry, not something "mean" to quit your job over.
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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #718 on: November 15, 2019, 06:10:35 AM »
That's a seriously nasty thing to do. Especially if it has been going on for years. Is there anyone at work you can talk to about this? Otherwise I would seriously consider changing jobs. What this is is bullying, plsin and simple, it's not funny at all. If you choose to not eat one type of food that's 100% not anyone else's business and finally ordering lunch that meets your dietary requirements and then putting it in the meat drawer is just mean. It would be hard for me to work with those kind of people. It would always be in the back of my mind while talking to them.
I have a different opinion. It's unlikely that the "Meat" drawer in a workplace is used to store raw meat. It was probably selected because it had nothing in it and it was a way of protecting it from being grabbed by the wrong person. It's just a drawer. Changing jobs over this would be a colossal overreaction. If you choose to be a vegetarian, you must accept that you are outside the norm or you will loose your mind. The rest of the world is cannot be expected to have the same level of awareness of what your dietary choices involve. To expect them to is folly. I interpreted the OP's comment as mildly amusing with a side of wry, not something "mean" to quit your job over.
Signed,
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30+ year vegetarian

In one of the follow ups SheWhoWalksAtLunch said that there was meat in the drawer.  Not sure I would look for a different job over work not ordering lunch within my restrictions in mind but I might look for other signs that I was not valued.  Because every restaurant has some veg option.

re veg jokes: please just dont bother.  anyone who has been vegetarian/etc for more than a month as heard them all, they get old, they were not that funny to start with, you are not that clever.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #719 on: November 15, 2019, 12:27:49 PM »
OP here for the vegetarian lunch in the meat drawer post - Like Dicey, I'm 30+ year vegetarian and am usually very laid back about food choices at work. I ALWAYS pack my own lunch no matter what I'm promised by the person arranging the meal.  I was mostly poking fun at the absurdity of the situation.  It was nice of the company to finally purchase the first vegetarian meal for me in three years.  It was a bummer it didn't happen until Redacted - a man - asked for a vegetarian meal too, but I'm doing my best to look on the bright side.

After snapping at DadJokes comment yesterday (its hard to read tone on the internet and I apologize if your comment really was meant to be innocuous) I went in search of the office person who handled the distribution of lunches. She really was trying to hide the "yummy looking" vegetarian meals by tucking them in the meat drawer out of sight and did do her best to push the initial contents of the drawer to the back out of the way (small company with some home/work overlap in the kitchen sometimes).  Based on the look of horror on her face when I pointed out the incongruity of location choice, I'm confident this wasn't a malicious act on her part.

I've been odd woman out in male dominated industries/token vegetarian/youngest/oldest/oddest employee for too many years to change jobs over this issue.  But back to the intention of this thread, being food shamed at work (even accidentally) is one of my petty reasons for seeking FIRE.  Thank you to everyone who jumped to my defense.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2019, 12:40:55 PM by SheWhoWalksAtLunch »

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« Reply #720 on: November 15, 2019, 03:11:07 PM »
I've been odd woman out in male dominated industries/token vegetarian/youngest/oldest/oddest employee for too many years to change jobs over this issue. 
Wait! Are you me? Maybe we're twin daughters of different, yet very similar, mothers, lol!

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #721 on: November 15, 2019, 07:23:29 PM »
Instant Messenger.   The sad reality is that true concentration on mentally challenging work is now “rude” if you don’t react to co-workers more rude, trivial and usually driven by insecurity, instant messages.   

OK, another one...  “Did you see my email?”   🙄

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #722 on: November 16, 2019, 01:51:48 AM »
Instant Messenger.   The sad reality is that true concentration on mentally challenging work is now “rude” if you don’t react to co-workers more rude, trivial and usually driven by insecurity, instant messages.   

OK, another one...  “Did you see my email?”   

We have Skype for business, being equally intruding. And Pidgin on our virtual desktop.

It is strange. Most of the people in our department do high concentration work. Still we have been put in an environment where it is impossible to concentrate when many others are present at work.
For me it feel like punishment (torture is too strong a word) to be working in such an environment.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #723 on: November 16, 2019, 05:28:48 AM »
I once received an email and Skype message simultaneously from the same person asking if it was ok to call me! :-0

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #724 on: November 16, 2019, 06:13:04 AM »
Politics.  Not office politics although I hate that too. I can't stand people bringing up politics but yet acting like children if you start to disagree with them.  At least post fire I can just tell people what I think without having to worry about a massive blow up.  Why do people bring up politics if they can't handle hearing arguments on  the other side?

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #725 on: November 16, 2019, 07:05:42 AM »
I once received an email and Skype message simultaneously from the same person asking if it was ok to call me! :-0
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Aaaargh!  :-0   Hope you scattered their ashes someplace nice!  ;-)


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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #726 on: November 16, 2019, 08:02:50 AM »
Okay, I know this is really petty, but I will not have to listen to my co-worker's vocal fry in meetings. Like fingernails on a chalkboard.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #727 on: November 16, 2019, 09:09:15 AM »
Instant Messenger.   The sad reality is that true concentration on mentally challenging work is now “rude” if you don’t react to co-workers more rude, trivial and usually driven by insecurity, instant messages.   

OK, another one...  “Did you see my email?”   🙄

The most hilarious spoof of that exact situation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mokllJ_Sz_g

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« Reply #728 on: November 16, 2019, 09:17:11 AM »
I once received an email and Skype message simultaneously from the same person asking if it was ok to call me! :-0

Aaaargh!  :-0   Hope you scattered their ashes someplace nice!  ;-)

I told them I was accepting messages by carrier pigeon only that day.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #729 on: November 16, 2019, 10:42:19 AM »
I hate having to pretend to take other people seriously and be agreeable.

"Oh, you aren't signing up for the 401k plan, because you can't afford it?  I totally understand.  BTW, how was your vacation last week?"

"No, don't worry about completely screwing up and wasting my time.  It is totally fine.  It happens."

"Oh, you haven't heard of this company policy before?  That is so weird.  Especially since it was mentioned in the handbook that you signed stating that you read and was mentioned in a follow-up email last month.  So odd."

I'd also like to sleep more  and my office is arctic and I hate wearing long johns under my clothes, running a space heater, and wearing fingerless gloves.  I'd cry, but the tears would just freeze on my face.


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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #730 on: November 16, 2019, 10:55:59 AM »
Instant Messenger.   The sad reality is that true concentration on mentally challenging work is now “rude” if you don’t react to co-workers more rude, trivial and usually driven by insecurity, instant messages.   

OK, another one...  “Did you see my email?”   🙄
I hate all forms of IM programs.  Like there weren't enough ways to reach someone already.  The worst is when one person is calling me on my cell phone, another is calling my work phone, another is sending me texts, and yet another is sending me IMs.  Makes me want to throw my computer and cell phone out the window.

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« Reply #731 on: November 16, 2019, 12:42:08 PM »
I hate having to pretend to take other people seriously and be agreeable.

"Oh, you aren't signing up for the 401k plan, because you can't afford it?  I totally understand.  BTW, how was your vacation last week?"

"No, don't worry about completely screwing up and wasting my time.  It is totally fine.  It happens."

"Oh, you haven't heard of this company policy before?  That is so weird.  Especially since it was mentioned in the handbook that you signed stating that you read and was mentioned in a follow-up email last month.  So odd."

I'd also like to sleep more  and my office is arctic and I hate wearing long johns under my clothes, running a space heater, and wearing fingerless gloves.  I'd cry, but the tears would just freeze on my face.

Ha ha! I was just going to post one of my reasons is because they keep the office too hot for me (menopause and all that) and there are people there complaining of being cold and running their space heaters. I have a fan on my desk that helps somewhat. I want to be comfortable and in control of the temperature. One of the reasons I enjoy my work from home days so much.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #732 on: November 16, 2019, 03:14:08 PM »
When I think about this question long and hard I really only have one reason to seek FIRE..

..... I just don't want people telling me what to do.


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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #733 on: November 17, 2019, 06:46:18 AM »
I actually love having an IM system.  You can message someone and they can answer 5 or 10 minutes later when they have the time.  It's also not logged or saved, so if you have something to ask about that you don't want in an official email you can do it over IM.

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Re: What is your most petty reason for seeking FIRE?
« Reply #734 on: November 17, 2019, 08:06:20 AM »
Email:
There are two vegetarian meals for SheWho and Redacted in the meat drawer.

Shewhowalksatlunch:
Great. My thank-you note is in the fuck-you tray.
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« Reply #735 on: November 17, 2019, 10:36:34 AM »
OP here for the vegetarian lunch in the meat drawer post - Like Dicey, I'm 30+ year vegetarian and am usually very laid back about food choices at work. I ALWAYS pack my own lunch no matter what I'm promised by the person arranging the meal.  I was mostly poking fun at the absurdity of the situation.  It was nice of the company to finally purchase the first vegetarian meal for me in three years.  It was a bummer it didn't happen until Redacted - a man - asked for a vegetarian meal too, but I'm doing my best to look on the bright side.

After snapping at DadJokes comment yesterday (its hard to read tone on the internet and I apologize if your comment really was meant to be innocuous) I went in search of the office person who handled the distribution of lunches. She really was trying to hide the "yummy looking" vegetarian meals by tucking them in the meat drawer out of sight and did do her best to push the initial contents of the drawer to the back out of the way (small company with some home/work overlap in the kitchen sometimes).  Based on the look of horror on her face when I pointed out the incongruity of location choice, I'm confident this wasn't a malicious act on her part.

I've been odd woman out in male dominated industries/token vegetarian/youngest/oldest/oddest employee for too many years to change jobs over this issue.  But back to the intention of this thread, being food shamed at work (even accidentally) is one of my petty reasons for seeking FIRE.  Thank you to everyone who jumped to my defense.

It's good to hear you've cleared up the situation with the lady who put the food there. Obviously not a malicious act from her.
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What I was getting at wasn't really the location of the vegetarian meals (if that's a one off) but the fact that they've ordered the wrong type of food for you for 3 years until now. That just sounds crazy. I can understand that happening the first time lunch is ordered when you start working somewhere, but assuming you told them the first time you're actually vegetarian, I still can't understand the thought process of the person ordering the meals all those years. I'm also the odd woman out in a conservative, male dominated industry, but we're in the 21st century. Being a vegetarian is very common and any catering company offers vegetarian options. I'm not formally a vegetarian but I politely requested vegetarian lunches because I rarely eat meat, and no one batted an eyelid even though that's unusual in my company. I've been in charge of ordering lunches and with most catering companies, ordering a vegetarian option is just a matter of ticking a box. I would be absolultely mortified if I ordered a lunch and forgot about someone's dietary requirements.

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« Reply #736 on: November 17, 2019, 03:38:29 PM »
I actually love having an IM system.  You can message someone and they can answer 5 or 10 minutes later when they have the time.  It's also not logged or saved, so if you have something to ask about that you don't want in an official email you can do it over IM.

Are you sure it isn't logged?  It definitely was where I used to work.

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« Reply #737 on: November 17, 2019, 04:05:16 PM »
I actually love having an IM system.  You can message someone and they can answer 5 or 10 minutes later when they have the time.  It's also not logged or saved, so if you have something to ask about that you don't want in an official email you can do it over IM.

Are you sure it isn't logged?  It definitely was where I used to work.
That's a matter of individual company policy, I know it isn't where I work. 

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« Reply #738 on: November 18, 2019, 12:33:47 AM »
Don't remember whether I wrote this before, but today is another such day. If the weather is not suited for commuting, I don't want to have to drive to work, together with lots of other cars at the same time.

Today it is snowing, but with a temperature above 0 C, which gives very slippery roads. And despite driving a 4x4 with winter tires very slowly, the car glanced over the road some place. It went well luckily. But if I wouldn't have to work, I wouldn't have been driving at such a busy time.

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« Reply #739 on: November 19, 2019, 11:50:05 PM »
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with most catering companies, ordering a vegetarian option is just a matter of ticking a box. I would be absolultely mortified if I ordered a lunch and forgot about someone's dietary requirements.

My team attended an off site 2 day meeting. Dietary restrictions were duly sent ahead.  I have one guy who eats GF-halal. This takes awareness but is not objectively difficult. At the 10 am break I get told by the other company’s rep that the caterer can’t accommodate GF-halal.  WTAF.  He made a meal of the salad but I was pissed and embarrassed. The caterer should have been.

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« Reply #740 on: November 20, 2019, 06:34:01 AM »
I love video games, and one of the things on my bucket list is to “whale” (buy pay-to-win microtransactions and/or virtual currency and in-game items) in an mmorpg and become the #1 player. I’d likely use my discretionary post-FIRE spending money on this until I get bored of it.
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« Reply #741 on: November 20, 2019, 03:09:15 PM »
We are transitioning from individual cubicles and offices to an open layout plan.  It's a way to cram 20-30 people in the same space that used to hold 10 people.  You have a small locker for your coat and two file drawers for any other items at your tiny little desk.  Nothing like sitting shoulder to shoulder with your coworkers with no privacy.

Thankfully I will be gone before my floor transitions to the new layout.

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« Reply #742 on: November 20, 2019, 07:44:44 PM »
We're getting smaller desks too, without any dividers, and smaller file cabinets.

About a month ago I.T. told us to change our passwords to sync our old email account with the new email server. Migration happened today, and about 80% of the staff didn't follow that basic instruction, which left them high and dry. I'm not in I.T. at all and I spent part of the day trying to guide people through the setup of their email accounts.

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« Reply #743 on: November 20, 2019, 10:46:30 PM »
We also have a smallish desk and only a small drawer block per person. Nothing more. The desk is sit/standup, which is good. No private wardrobe for coats.

I think the reason they are able to do this is is that it might be difficult to measure productivity and therefore the concequences are invisible. I have become terribly unproductive, because I can't concentrate and I am probably not the only one.

From Monday only 3 weeks left....

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« Reply #744 on: November 21, 2019, 07:51:45 AM »
We also have a smallish desk and only a small drawer block per person. Nothing more. The desk is sit/standup, which is good. No private wardrobe for coats.

I think the reason they are able to do this is is that it might be difficult to measure productivity and therefore the concequences are invisible. I have become terribly unproductive, because I can't concentrate and I am probably not the only one.

From Monday only 3 weeks left....

Seems many companies are going with this approach (real reason is to save money on office space). Our accommodations people are selling it, saying how great it is. 

"No assigned seating employees have the option to use a variety of work points (desks; sofas; collaboration pods; lunch room, etc.).
Employees have access to a web-based reservation system for some work points. Employees have a locker. Access to Collaborative spaces and collaboration areas. Strong focus on collaboration tools (instant messaging; desktop video conferencing; collab tools)"

Everyone is suppose to move to this type of setup. I think our group is still a year or more away from being transitioned. Everyone I have talked to said they like it ,but when I question them further I find out they work from home most of the time. If everyone came in there would not be enough space. The logic for efficient use of space makes sense, but some type of work just doesn't fit this model.

 

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« Reply #745 on: November 21, 2019, 08:42:28 AM »
We also have a smallish desk and only a small drawer block per person. Nothing more. The desk is sit/standup, which is good. No private wardrobe for coats.

I think the reason they are able to do this is is that it might be difficult to measure productivity and therefore the concequences are invisible. I have become terribly unproductive, because I can't concentrate and I am probably not the only one.

From Monday only 3 weeks left....

Seems many companies are going with this approach (real reason is to save money on office space). Our accommodations people are selling it, saying how great it is. 

"No assigned seating employees have the option to use a variety of work points (desks; sofas; collaboration pods; lunch room, etc.).
Employees have access to a web-based reservation system for some work points. Employees have a locker. Access to Collaborative spaces and collaboration areas. Strong focus on collaboration tools (instant messaging; desktop video conferencing; collab tools)"

Everyone is suppose to move to this type of setup. I think our group is still a year or more away from being transitioned. Everyone I have talked to said they like it ,but when I question them further I find out they work from home most of the time. If everyone came in there would not be enough space. The logic for efficient use of space makes sense, but some type of work just doesn't fit this model.

One of the floors in my building has the no assigned seating model and a bank of small conference rooms if people need privacy for a meeting or a call.  What actually happens is the first people there in the morning grab the conference rooms and camp there all day and if you need some privacy for a phone call or a meeting there isn't anywhere to go. 

My department will have assigned seating, but the thought of sitting in an open area with four colleagues within 20 feet of me makes me glad I won't have to be dealing with this.

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« Reply #746 on: November 21, 2019, 09:14:46 AM »
My petty reason for today:  fluorescent lights in wintertime are not pleasant.  I'd rather sit in a dark office than have that awful lighting on.

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« Reply #747 on: November 21, 2019, 10:06:57 AM »
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with most catering companies, ordering a vegetarian option is just a matter of ticking a box. I would be absolultely mortified if I ordered a lunch and forgot about someone's dietary requirements.

My team attended an off site 2 day meeting. Dietary restrictions were duly sent ahead.  I have one guy who eats GF-halal. This takes awareness but is not objectively difficult. At the 10 am break I get told by the other company’s rep that the caterer can’t accommodate GF-halal.  WTAF.  He made a meal of the salad but I was pissed and embarrassed. The caterer should have been.

Even if they didn't have halal meat, isn't vegetarian halal?  GF vegetarian isn't a big request. 

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« Reply #748 on: November 21, 2019, 03:39:31 PM »
We also have a smallish desk and only a small drawer block per person. Nothing more. The desk is sit/standup, which is good. No private wardrobe for coats.

I think the reason they are able to do this is is that it might be difficult to measure productivity and therefore the concequences are invisible. I have become terribly unproductive, because I can't concentrate and I am probably not the only one.

From Monday only 3 weeks left....

Seems many companies are going with this approach (real reason is to save money on office space). Our accommodations people are selling it, saying how great it is. 

"No assigned seating employees have the option to use a variety of work points (desks; sofas; collaboration pods; lunch room, etc.).
Employees have access to a web-based reservation system for some work points. Employees have a locker. Access to Collaborative spaces and collaboration areas. Strong focus on collaboration tools (instant messaging; desktop video conferencing; collab tools)"

Everyone is suppose to move to this type of setup. I think our group is still a year or more away from being transitioned. Everyone I have talked to said they like it ,but when I question them further I find out they work from home most of the time. If everyone came in there would not be enough space. The logic for efficient use of space makes sense, but some type of work just doesn't fit this model.

One of the floors in my building has the no assigned seating model and a bank of small conference rooms if people need privacy for a meeting or a call.  What actually happens is the first people there in the morning grab the conference rooms and camp there all day and if you need some privacy for a phone call or a meeting there isn't anywhere to go. 

My department will have assigned seating, but the thought of sitting in an open area with four colleagues within 20 feet of me makes me glad I won't have to be dealing with this.

We have this exact same issue with the conference rooms.  No set desk, so people grab a room early.  We also have only a limited number of phones, which are in the conference rooms.  All calls out are expected to be via these phones, and all calls in go straight to our message bank.  As one other teacher asked, "If another school has the same system, how can I ever speak to a teacher there?"

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« Reply #749 on: November 22, 2019, 03:50:37 AM »
Everyone is suppose to move to this type of setup. I think our group is still a year or more away from being transitioned. Everyone I have talked to said they like it ,but when I question them further I find out they work from home most of the time. If everyone came in there would not be enough space. The logic for efficient use of space makes sense, but some type of work just doesn't fit this model.

I think Terry pratchett put it nicely like this:
Even writers, once accepted as an elusive breed, now how to go out and meet people constantly.

It is the extrovert ideal and it is made worse because it generally is introduced by managers, who generally do extrovert work and have the traits (or learned to simulate them).

It is similar to brainstorming: It has been shown again and again that the "normal" way of doing them is ineffective. You get better ideas if you have people thinking about them outside of a big meeting and write them down where everyone can see (and comment!) them and only after a certain time get together in a bigger, formal group.
But that is way too introvert to fit in our "always on" times.