He may have registered in 2016, but he's only posted 21 times (as of when I just checked). I'd say that counts as ill mannered. Plus, the original post on this thread was pretty rude. He earned the scorn.
If only he had used PTF all these months, his post count would have been hgher. :P
No one has to “earn” the right to deliver deserved face punches on this forum.
The responses in this thread are some of the most un-mustachian ones I’ve read in the years I’ve been reading this forum...right up there with the Vitamix thread.
Thank you for speaking the truth here, Macoconut.
I can't believe that people are actually resorting to postcount-plus-plus style attacks against someone for speaking the truth and hurting people's feelings because they've been called out for doing uncivilized, inappropriate and frankly
bannable behaviors on most other forms.
I'm tired of tapdancing around the topic, doing read-between-the-lines posts, afraid of sounding like "that guy", potentially sounding ungrateful, and avoiding ruffling feathers because everyone's gotten so touchy and offend-able lately. I love you all, but it's time to own up to the fact that this community's forum posters are terrible, by extension it makes using the very forum they're in awful, and it's partly the fault of the moderators for not doing their entire jobs and letting this sort of terrible behavior slide for the past six years.
You want to know why the forum search function is broken? It's because of you.
You want to know why it's so hard to navigate and it takes so long to load new replies to your posts? It's because of you.
Yes, you.The person who has nothing meaningful to contribute to a thread but empty quoting "+1"? You're the problem. You're a spammer.
The person who ignores properly utilizing the follow topic function and utilizes "PTF" in the thread you have no intent of actually contributing to but only want to read? You're the problem. You're a spammer.
The person who starts a journal to catalog the banalities of their life and thoughts instead of taking it to social media, and racks up multi-thousand post threads in a never-ending popularity contest cycle with others? You're the problem.
These behaviors are the reason why our forum is so broken and unusable.
This forum is insanely unique in a few specific ways, and frankly it needs to stop. We have no postcount limits for threads. We have no user account moderation. We have no community standard or expectation that when someone proceeds to start pounding on their keyboard to post in a thread, they should actually have something useful to say. We just let things slide. We are the problem.
Pete is throwing away ridiculous amounts of money to run the forum because the community he hosts is terrible, from the users to the moderators and everything in between.
You want this place to be more civilized? You want to improve the signal to noise ratio with all the posting? You want the forum to actually be responsive? First of all, stop spamming the forums.
I wonder how much tolerance there would be in the general community for this sort of +1/PTF nonsense there would be if our threads were hard-capped to 1000 messages. You'd want every post to be valuable gold and worth the time to read, wouldn't you?
Here's what really needs to happen: We need to stop ignoring standard forum etiquette if we want this place to stop sucking, and other forums have these policies in place for exactly this reason. We need to cap thread length at between 1000-2000 posts, and lock every currently active thread exceeding that postcount. We need to purge and delete every zero post count user on this forum older than three months that hasn't logged into their account past the first 24 hours of signing up. We need to delete the accounts (not the posts, just the accounts) of anyone permabanned or hasn't logged in for over, say, three years - unless the mods know they're coming back. We need to mark every post read older than 90 days on every active account left after this purge on a regular bases. We need to start discouraging and eventually banning all posts that don't actually contribute any real content to discussions, which means no more PTF and +1 nonsense.
Do this? And I guarantee you that these forums will greatly improve in usability and speed. Do these things
in addition to these other things? We'll likely even get search functionality back, because that list basically makes this forum look like a cautionary tale on how
not to manage an SMF forum and community. Maintain these practices, and Pete will be able to host the forums on a server that won't cost an arm and a leg just to get it to crawl along. Then he can take the money saved and start paying his moderation team to keep doing their nearly thankless job properly.
Hate me. Report me. Ignore me. I don't care. Things are deeply broken culturally here, and it needs fixed, or the place will simply become unusable for
everyone, yourself included.
We are why we can't have nice things... but you don't have to keep adding to the entropy. Make yourselves useful and stop behaving like unruly children when someone has the audacity to point out that you're the reason your own precious toys are broken.
