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What's your charity strategy?
« on: October 12, 2019, 10:01:23 AM »
I've never been intentional about charity in the past. When I knew of a need I would try to fill it and often I would donate my time or services instead of cash. Now that I'm in a better place financially, it only seems right that I start regularly supporting X financially. I have a few ideas of places that I would like to support but I'm not sold on any one of them.  If you have a non-profit that you think does amazing work would you mind sharing?

  • Who do you donate to? Why?
  • How do you decide the amount to donate? Percentage of income/net worth...? Set amount?

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2019, 10:18:53 AM »
I used to support a couple of medical charities, but I've become dismayed by their high expense ratio.   For example, if I give $1000 to the chrohn's and colitis foundation, they keep $500 for admin expenses and give $500 to a university for research.   The university keeps $250 for admin expenses and gives $250 to the research lab.

This is silly.   I don't want 3/4 of my donation to support administrators.

I'm considering donating directly to universities, but I'm not sure.     Any ideas?

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2019, 11:02:10 AM »
Who:

I'd like to say we have one charity we donate to regularly, but not really. We are more seat-of-the-pants style contributors. If something comes up in discussions with friends/family/news, we will often send our monthly budget of charity that way. Otherwise, at the end of the year we pick a charity and put the year's budget towards it. We research the heck out of charities using sites like Charity Navigator. My #1 rule is "Will this dollar do more good with this charity than if it was given directly to the people/cause?" because I'm an economist, I'm here for the ROI. If I give a dollar to the Red Cross, I expect them to do at least a dollar's worth of "good" or to do something a dollar is incapable of doing. I.e. dollar transfusions don't work as well as blood transfusions in emergency medical situations, so they're providing something straight money can't. I don't make all decisions based on straight ROI, but it still has to meet that cut off. There are some good books/videos/etc. out there on charity analysis, I'll see if I can pull some up.

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Not enough! Currently we give about 1% gross and I feel like an ass. My student loans will be paid off in about a year and I plan on upping it to 5%. My decision is based largely on wanting to be "above average" (one site that gives context for average) because then I feel like I am, in a small way, making a difference by increasing the average (ever so minutely).

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2019, 11:46:18 AM »
Considering how much we are subsidizing low income family members, there isn’t much room for outside charity.  Unless they’re holding a fun looking fundraiser, I don’t see the point considering how much I’m paying in taxes.

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2019, 12:23:41 PM »
I don’t have a set amount or Avenue, although not enough. I like to donate to miscellaneous friends or direct people through things like gofundme (the obvious appreciative funds). Families fundraisers, occasional coworker in need (has a coworker that had 3 kids, go for a 4th, and have triplets lol).

I’d like to do more, and direct things, like sponsoring a child in another country or similar.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2019, 02:10:21 PM »
A couple of years ago we opened a Donor Advised Fund (DAF), through Vanguard Charitable, and funded it with 5% of our net worth in one big lump sum. This was the most efficient way to put that money to use, since I was able to donate appreciated stocks (and avoiding paying capital gains on them) as well as claim the full amount donated in my itemized deductions on my taxes (with Trump’s change to the tax law it usually doesn’t make sense for us to itemize nowadays, which means any new donations would be from after tax dollars, unless we decided to make another massive lump sum contribution to the DAF again).

Now we use the earnings on the DAF to donate each year to charities that we want to support. I also want my donations to be as efficient as possible. A while back I had heard about an organization called Effective Altruism that had an interactive analysis that helped you find the most effective charities for whatever cause you wanted to help. For preventing human suffering, it had suggested GiveWell, which analyzes the most effective charities for that and identifies where an extra dollar would have the most impact (some charities, while very effective, are already saturated and not able to be as effective with subsequent additional dollars).

At first I donated directly to GiveWell’s top recommended charity that year (it was the Against Malaria Foundation), but now I just send donations directly to GiveWell and let them allocate them (that way if one of their top charities becomes oversubscribed, they can redirect the funds to the next top charity that isn’t oversubscribed yet).

MMM actually did a blog post on GiveWell:
https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2016/10/26/notes-on-giving-away-100000/

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2019, 03:10:45 PM »
Lest I sound like a complete miser, recently we have hired a cleaning service.  Cleaning my house or learning to live with the mess should be something I can manage, and the rate of $45/hour for two cleaners at two or four hour weekly to biweekly blocks is a significant expense.   Being less frugal, at least when it comes to services compared to things is an effective form of charity.  I’ve improved the financial situation of a small business owner, and did what small part I can to provide employment to her crew.  And I get a cleaner, happier house out of it and more time with my family.  Giving people the opportunity to work and earn money somehow became lost as a value to the middle class, and I wonder why we don’t see cleaners and other services as a mutually beneficial way to spread the wealth.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2019, 06:21:05 PM »
I donate nothing. I pay a lot of my income in taxes, I suspect more than most Mustachians in the U.S. (due to our tax rates - marginal of 47.5% + compulsory private health insurance, previously was 49.5%, and that's not counting sales tax/land tax/stamp duty/local taxes), so I feel like I've done my bit.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2019, 08:34:39 PM »
I dont calculate it exactly, but it usually works out between 5-10% of income. Around Christmas I have a tally up and give extra if its been a bit low for the year. I aim to split it between local, national and international, and between environmental and social causes.
I think of tax as the price I pay for living in a functional, safe and decent society, and frankly its a bargain.

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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2019, 10:05:38 PM »
  I've become disenchanted with our local charities modes and methods, as mentioned above it seems like most of the donations go toward administration now days.
  I have just started looking into scholarship endowments that are self sustaining through my daughters former high school. Smaller high schools have systems set up to take care of the application process as well as the selection process  and the disbursement in house.
  I'm planning on a couple of scholarships a year directed to students with an interest in Agriculture. Not everyone can be a programmer.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2019, 01:32:20 AM »
I'm a big fan of the 'set it and forget it' method of giving, because it forces me to give when otherwise my miserly instincts would have me holding on to the money.  I have an auto-donations set up on a monthly basis to ACLU, Earthjustice, and AO3, because I believe in what they're doing and think it's very necessary work, especially these days.  I try to use Amazon Smile for my shopping, which is set up to donate to the Nature Conservancy every time I buy something (Amazon has sent almost a quarter million to them for the last quarter alone from the Amazon Smile program, and it makes me happy to know I'm a small part of that).  I donate to Wikipedia once a year to support their mission. 

And my entire estate, minus a small amount for funeral expenses, will go to the Nature Conservancy when I kick the bucket.  They're fighting the good fight against climate change and habitat loss on a lot of different levels (local, governmental, international, etc), they partner with local people and cultures to try and find win-win solutions for both humans and habitat, and in general seem to be good stewards of land and money.  I figure that along with my day to day choices, that's probably the most good I can do with my money for the future and the planet, once I don't need it anymore. 

Most of it isn't very big amounts (except for the estate part), but I figure every little bit helps, and that regular reoccurring donations are more helpful because they can be relied on for budgets, and charities can spend less time chasing you around asking for money.

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2019, 02:03:29 AM »
I donate more or less evenly to 3 charities:
  • Effective Altruism's Give Direct, where they simply give money to individuals in a village to spend as they see fit; not everyone needs a goat
  • Smith family, this sponsors a child in Australia from a poor home, to improve their education with tutoring etc
  • Chabad Dingley, my local religious organisation spreading knowledge of Judaism to jews, and building community
In this way we hope to benefit the world, Australians, and people in our community. I donate 5% of my income.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2019, 07:46:31 AM »
Considering how much we are subsidizing low income family members, there isn’t much room for outside charity. 

This. And, I expect the need to increase in the next few years, which is part of my drive for FI

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2019, 02:14:08 PM »
We choose to donate our time by cleaning up the hikes, walks, and neighbourhoods in our area. Every day we go on a walk and spend 30min-1 hour picking up garbage.

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2019, 02:31:39 PM »
A couple of years ago we opened a Donor Advised Fund (DAF), through Vanguard Charitable, and funded it...

This is exactly what we did, except we used Schwab since they had lower giving and funding limits.  $5k to start the DAF, we contribute an additional $100 per month to maintain the investment pool.  Whenever the giving bug hits us we just log in, enter the tax ID of the charity and donation amount and boom, donation made.  As an added bonus my wife's company matches charitable contributions so we email a copy of the donation letter to her company and they match it.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2019, 02:35:16 PM »
I donate to both religious and medical charities. I heavily use charity navigator to make sure that these charities are effectively using the funds that they receive. Like the other posters are saying, I actively avoid charities that use large portions of the funds for administrative expenses or advertising. It seems like a number of the big charities spend most of their money on bring in more money. Not actually helping the cause they say they will.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2019, 02:42:23 PM »
Strategy:  Never have never will.  Charity expense ratios would likely make people sick if they actually cared enough to look.

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2019, 04:27:16 PM »
I do effective altruism so my money goes as far as possible and goes to people who really need it.

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2019, 09:42:20 PM »
$40 a month to Greenpeace Australia
$60 a month to Effective Alturism ($50 for them to distribute, $10 to EA itself)

It's about 2.5% of my take home pay for the month.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2019, 10:46:31 PM »
I donate to malaika.org Farmafrica.org and will be donating to hyperemesis Australia now that it has charitable status. I aused to volunteer a lot locally but found it very frustrating and not worthwhile. I'll occasionally buy McDonald's for homeless people when the weather is cold.

I chose Malaika because I wanted a charity model for a school that isn't religious and also more than basic amenities. I feel like the kids deserve the kind of education my kids would get. Women tend to look after communities so a girl school was appropriate.

Farm Africa also has a model that teaches self sufficiency by teaching modern agriculture and working with local communities. Was very impressed with them teaching grafting so a community could grow a local fruit that previously was slow growth. That feels like it gives a lot of bang for the buck.

HG is something personal and I also think will go far in improving outcomes since it is so neglected. I give around Christmas and tax time, I don't give much as I'm low income but feel its important to give something back even if it's a little.

The McDonald's is because I watched a show where a homeless person said its what they appreciate most. Also preferable to money when you're not sure they have an addiction or not.

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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2019, 12:19:39 PM »
We have adopted dogs from local animal shelters where we have lived at the time.  We also used to volunteer regularly at each of those animals shelters to help walk and socialize the dogs.

Now that we have lots of money but very limited time, we donate money to those animals shelters instead. They do have some administrative expenses, but we know the staff and know that they are earning very little relative to private industry because they are devoted to and make sacrifices for the good of the animals.

We end up donating somewhere around 10% of our gross income annually across a number of mostly local charities which will delay FIRE by years and years but it is a sacrifice we feel is appropriate given our relative earning power as a donation of a small part of our annual income can make a big difference to a small, local charity.

Take a look at local charities where you can be more directly involved and the benefits are usually right in your own community.  We like animals but you can find something local that you want to support - environment, homeless, animals, art, etc.

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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2019, 04:29:53 PM »
A few years ago I decided it would be better to give relatively large chunks of money to a small number of organizations than to give small amounts of money to lots of organizations, and I also felt I should “participate” more in the community, so I gave $500 each to the local food bank, the local foster home, and the local Ronald McDonald House.

Since then, I’ve willingly gone with various gimmicks to increase the food bank donation to $600 and the McDonald House donation to $560.

I’ve also started going against my decision regarding small amounts to lots of organizations in that I also donate $30-$100 to a handful of other charities, which I generally try to time to align with another organization providing matching funds.

The downside to donating to charity is all the junk it creates... I get requests from other organizations now too, and everybody seems to send a request ~4-6 times a year whether or not I’ve given to them before.

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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2019, 06:36:20 PM »
The junkmail problem is real.

I donate 10% of my income. I learned this habit growing up in church, but I stick to it now despite being churchless. I figured the decision of whether to find/attend a church should not direct the decision of how generous to be. There are also secular justifications for such a number; for example, look into the organization Giving What We Can. Several people on the forum are big givers and threads like this have existed in the past, if you're interested in digging.

LIke many others, I'm interested in the movement for effective altruism and the GiveWell project. I chose several areas that mattered a lot to me, picked the best charity I could find in each case, and divided my donation between them. Currently that looks like:
  • Sheer effectiveness - The Against Malaria Foundation - $75/month
  • Refugee crises - UNHCR* - $75/month
  • Women's issues - The Fistula Foundation - $60/month
  • Climate change - Cool Earth - $60/month
*I also recommend Save The Children on this issue

I am relatively low-income on these boards; I make $35k a year now, so I donate $3500. Currently, the above allocation leaves me with $22/month to donate wherever I want. I believe very strongly that it's important for my giving to be automatic - it allows recipients to be more efficient when they know to expect it; giving as a habit is more effective than giving when you feel like it; I am rich enough to prioritize others in my budget and want to commit to it - but the tradeoff is that it doesn't feel warm and fuzzy and fulfilling. This $22 is my charity "fun money" - I can give it where there seems to be a present need, or in response to a friend's fundraiser. Occasionally I save up this spare money for a month, but I always donate it eventually. My goal of donating 10% is more important than my goal of saving 50%.

I do subtract it out of my spending to make that number look nicer, though. ;)

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2019, 08:00:27 PM »
Strategy:  Never have never will.  Charity expense ratios would likely make people sick if they actually cared enough to look.

@Here4theGB ,

Directly give it to worthy recipients.   Then there's 0% administrative overhead and you know it's going to a good cause.

I hire people to do tasks I don't really need done or that I was going to do myself.  Examples include digging a French drain I was going to start the next weekend when someone I know got fired unjustly.   Flew to visit my mom on a one-way ticket and paid an unemployed person I knew to drive to my mom's town in my car so I could drive back instead of fly.   That way, someone who needed the money got it and they felt they were saving me money on airfare.   They even got to visit friends in my mom's town for that weekend.   

If I have something I don't need I tend to give it away instead of selling it.  And if I sell it, I look for good people I know that need a good deal and price it below market value.   We're landlords and if our tenants pay their rent and take care of the place, we give them a 1/2 month's rent as a gift in November.   A couple of our tenants get section 8 housing assistance so I know they could use the money.  They are nice people, just poor.

I prefer to help people by having them do something, even if I don't need it, so they don't feel like they are receiving charity.    I got the idea from my mom when she told me about Mr and Mrs Pffeifer of Corning, Arkansas.   During the depression they hired people to paint their entire house multiple times a year and they bought every single hand-made quilt people brought them regardless of its quality -- simply so good people could earn some income in dire times.   https://hemingway.astate.edu/    Sadly, they are better known for being the parents of Earnest Hemingway's wife.

We bought a neat architect-designed house that had fallen on hard times in order to save it.  I sold it at my cost to people who wanted to finish the restoration.   The community gets to keep a nifty building and we got our money back on that one.   We just bought a house to provide non-profit housing for college students or as a halfway house for foster kids who age out of the system.   We'll renovate it and either gift it to a local charity or run it ourselves.

Generally, when I hear statements like you gave I discover they are actually just excuses not to help others.    Perhaps you're an exception.   If you are, I hope I've given you some ideas.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2019, 02:12:36 AM »
We pay a LOT of taxes, compared with e.g. Americans. From our taxes, the government pays a substantial sum to charity around the world. From our taxes, we also finance the people who cannot work and get government funding, as well as the rest of the pretty good social welfare system in our country.

I don't feel like paying an extra fixed amount to charity beside that. I do contribute financially to ski clubs who prepare ski trails that we use. And occasionally I give to a good course when I feel for it. I also help people on facebook with my specific knowledge about a subject. I donate stuff to others. When FIREd, I plan to do voluntary work when it suits me.

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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2019, 06:09:29 AM »
We do 10% of my spouse's income toward the church. I'm not a fan of it, but that's a different conversation.

I generally prefer to offer services instead of money. I give dog food and blankets to the local animal shelter and do taxes for low income families via VITA with the United Way. If I gave money to anyone, it would be the United Way. The local one spends ~85% of its funding on program expenses, which is really good.

When we're retired, I love the idea of setting up a recurring scholarship fund. I also expect that we'll have a lot more time to fill with volunteer work at that point.

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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2019, 10:19:27 AM »
A few years ago I decided it would be better to give relatively large chunks of money to a small number of organizations than to give small amounts of money to lots of organizations
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The downside to donating to charity is all the junk it creates... I get requests from other organizations now too, and everybody seems to send a request ~4-6 times a year whether or not I’ve given to them before.

I’m really liking giving through a donor advised fund because it also requires a minimum of $500 per disbursement so that charities are able to be more effective instead of all the overhead trying to handle lots of tiny donations and it makes me really focus on what charities are the highest priority for me. And with a donor advised fund, you get the tax break when you initially contribute to the fund so you can make all your charitable donation disbursements anonymous (no need to get an individual donation receipt from each), and so you’ll never get on mailing lists. It’s the best way to donate, for sure!

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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2019, 01:00:07 PM »
I have a DAF and give to both universities as well as some local charities.  Some of those are organizations where I've been directly involved; others are ones that help support the community in general.  Total giving is ~5% of salary.

Charity expense ratios would likely make people sick if they actually cared enough to look.

- Charities have little control over the definition of "overhead" - some with facilities that are idle during certain times (e.g. students in school) show high overhead but are overfull during other times.  Some charities are effectively virtual - needing no facilities - where others are running classes or other things that demand correctly-zoned (usually more expensive than average) facilities.  This is highly relevant to whether the overhead is wasteful or not...
- Volunteer hours produce no value to the charity in measuring overhead, even though they are worth $25.43

People have been trained to view overhead as a problem - and there are places where it IS a problem - but the broad brush treatment is just as bad as any other stereotype.  I've commented on overhead before in another thread that had a similar topic to this one (OP may want to read the whole thread)

As an example (numbers are rounded):
Charity 1: 15% administrative + fundraising (mix=50/50). 80K volunteer hours, $200K CEO salary, $2M payroll, 4* on Charity Navigator, 1 volunteer hour/$8 of overhead
Charity 2: 25% administrative + fundraising (mix=95/5). 25K volunteer hours, $50K/year payroll total, too small for Charity Navigator, 1 volunteer hour/$1.25 of overhead

Examples like that make me doubt as to how useful the overhead measure really is...

The problem - having been "on the inside" (as a board member of Charity #2 above) - is that I know how bad the measurement really is.  "Effective" is rather relative (though it's a great marketing word).  How is giving to someone's definition of "effective" charities really any better than putting funds in an active management fund that invests in "value companies"?

  I've become disenchanted with our local charities modes and methods, as mentioned above it seems like most of the donations go toward administration now days.

What I CAN tell is that engaging with an organization to understand why it's spending what it is spending is a useful endeavor.  (Of course, this is only fruitful if you are donating significant sums that make it worth the time of the charity to talk to you in detail)

The downside to donating to charity is all the junk it creates... I get requests from other organizations now too, and everybody seems to send a request ~4-6 times a year whether or not I’ve given to them before.

Ask yourself what you would want to achieve... housing, education, animal welfare, feeding the hungry, etc.  Then go looking for charities in your area that do that.  Google is your friend, as any at scale will have SOME web presence.  THEN, ask about their donor privacy policy.  If they don't have one, be specific that you won't donate because of it.  They sell their lists to other charities to make money (or trade them to get prospective donors), so knowing there is a lost revenue stream is relevant.

[W]ith a donor advised fund, you ... can make all your charitable donation disbursements anonymous (no need to get an individual donation receipt from each), and so you’ll never get on mailing lists. It’s the best way to donate, for sure!

^ This.  I've given $500 to my local food bank per year for close to a decade, but none of them, in any of the cities I've lived in, know who I am.  The only non-anonymous gifts I give are to places I've graduated from or the non-profit where I was a board member... places where there is clearly value to not being anonymous.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2019, 02:40:17 PM »
Systems101,
Thanks for that breakdown on "overhead" expenses.  I agree that potential givers can get over-focused on that.

Many years ago I organized an annual UnitedWay work campaign.  I was surprised at how many people would tell me they did not want to donate simply because some amount of their money would go to administrative costs.  (at the time, I think United Way was about 8% overhead).  However, when I pointed out that these individual non-profit charities had office rent, utility bills, and staff who expected to get paid, they seemed a little surprised. 
Yes, you can designate money to a food bank - is 100% of it going to actual food?  No, nor could it.  Sheesh.

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Re: What's your charity strategy?
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2019, 02:55:17 PM »
We need to develop a strategy. While we're paying off student loans we give a fixed monthly amount to a local food pantry and our chapter of Planned Parenthood. Throughout the year we give to other causes (Crohn's & Colitis Foundation, a migrant organization, animal rescues). But in a couple years we're going to have much bigger sums to work with and would like to be more thoughtful in our approach. Our biggest goal is to eventually endow scholarships at my wife's alma maters.