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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #100 on: May 09, 2023, 01:19:56 PM »
As a household, definitely driving an old car and doing our own maintenance on it. Mr. K's dad was a mechanic so he learned a ton and can do just about anything that doesn't require a full-on hoist or expensive specialized equipment. I'll admit this is mostly Mr. K's thing as he's the one doing 90% of the actual work. My contribution to the process has been to be happy with driving an older car and learn the requisite day-to-day maintenance tasks that keep the car running well.

For me personally it's been learning to do our own haircuts. There were a couple dicey ones during the beginning of the pandemic but a few youtube tutorials got me straightened out and now we haven't spent any money at a salon in years.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #101 on: May 09, 2023, 05:11:19 PM »
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events   
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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #102 on: May 09, 2023, 07:16:07 PM »

We turn on our electric hot water heater on/off every day for about 30 minutes prior to our evening showers. 

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #103 on: May 09, 2023, 10:42:03 PM »
Unusual:
Drive a minimum & walk for many local errands
Keep cars, electronics, etc. until they’re unsalvageable

Eat from scratch, don’t buy ready-to-eat foods

Eat out or get delivery maybe twice a year
Little alcohol, all at home
Good tea rebrews well
Lots of legumes, root vegetables, rice, & bread from scratch
Compost organic material & brown/ carton paper
Kitchen towels & reusable lids instead of paper towels or plastic wrap

Media (books, movies, video games) comes almost exclusively from the library or one streaming service at a time

Travel is rare (once every few years)
Work out at home
Optimize daylight, burn one bulb at a time
Line-dry all laundry
Never go looking for things to buy
Choose the longest-lasting options
Gifts within the family are simple, inexpensive pleasures, usually food
Makeup rarely used; DIY haircuts

Really out there: 

If opening the fridge, habitually ask the other half if they need anything, to minimize power draw
Who needs a bedframe?
Hydrated people can flush less often
Treat the thermostat as a safety device for pipes & people instead of a comfort generator
Hypermiling, when driving at all
Buy minimal furniture, secondhand, or collect from the curb or friends
Reuse unavoidable plastic packaging to wrap organic material that can’t be composted (cat leavings), to contain smells & cut frequency of trash take-outs (wasting plastic trash bags, collection truck gas)

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #104 on: May 10, 2023, 02:26:29 AM »
Big ticket money savers for us:

- cars. Two older cars, one big efficient diesel (45mpg) for transporting the whole family (we have three DC), and one 8yr old Leaf for DH commute, though he WFH as much as possible. Saved £1000 on fuel per year when we bought it, reducing spend by two-thirds. But biggest thing with cars is paying for them - we pay for them on credit card and then balance transfer regularly for 0% interest payments. Paid off the diesel years ago, Leaf will be done next year. Not paid a penny in interest so never needed to get any money out of savings/investments to spend on cars.

- firewood. Had a log burner installed in 2017. Have a fire nearly every day in winter (Nov-March). Never paid a penny for wood, we have processed a couple of our own trees that we had to remove on advice of a tree surgeon. Literally logged and bagged the entire tree down to the finest of kindling branches. We get the DC involved in family projects like this! Recently got a load of untreated scrap timber from a house next door that is being rebuilt from the ground up - DH has cut it to size and it is enough for about 3 years supply of firewood. We still have logs from a tree to process too. This keeps down our spend on gas for the central heating, especially in the cooler but not cold months.

- laundry. Have never owned a tumble drier, line dry wherever possible and if not, have a dehumidifier running in our small utility room that has racking to hang washing. Reusable everything - dish cloths, rags, nappies (though those days are thankfully over and the nappies are now rags!), san pro, facial wipes instead of cotton wool, flannels, etc. Super efficient washing machine that runs on cheap rate electricity overnight and only wash at 30 degrees.

- DIY. DH is an engineer and immensely practical. So he fixes plumbing, electrics, wonky furniture, rebuilt our garden trellis, built the compost bins, put up wallpaper, installs shelving - all that sort of stuff. I am good at paint colours, fabrics, sewing, repairs, thrifting furniture etc. Between us we fix just about everything. Memorably we have done things like re-sew the padding around our kids' trampoline using fishing line and the sewing machine, and edge leftover carpet to use as runners. DH also installed a new pump in our 11 year old dishwasher three years ago and it is still going strong. We very rarely need to get people in to do stuff. He's also a tech whizz and can repair laptops/phones etc - my laptop died so he bought a non-working one the same for peanuts on eBay and cannibalised the parts to get mine working again!

- food and cooking/gardening. I pack lunch for all the DC and DH if he is in the office. Never any leftovers and our backyard chickens get any scraps that are too good for the compost bin, in return for eggs. I make yogurt, sourdough etc. Rarely buy processed food. Make jam, chutney etc in season using produce from the garden. Grow my own flowers and veg from seed - total outlay on the garden in the last year has been for three sacks of potting compost for raising seedlings. For the rest I use our own garden compost.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #105 on: May 10, 2023, 08:28:00 AM »
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #106 on: May 10, 2023, 09:17:21 AM »
The most frugal thing I do is not look at ads*.  Ads are designed to make me want to spend my money on things I don't really want/need.  Without seeing ads my wants/needs list is very small, and determined by me, not people who want my money.

* The easy part of this is that I don't watch TV.  I'm also very fast at pressing the "skip ads" button on my tablet.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #107 on: May 10, 2023, 09:18:47 AM »
Unusual:
Drive a minimum & walk for many local errands
Keep cars, electronics, etc. until they’re unsalvageable

Eat from scratch, don’t buy ready-to-eat foods

Eat out or get delivery maybe twice a year
Little alcohol, all at home
Good tea rebrews well
Lots of legumes, root vegetables, rice, & bread from scratch
Compost organic material & brown/ carton paper
Kitchen towels & reusable lids instead of paper towels or plastic wrap

Media (books, movies, video games) comes almost exclusively from the library or one streaming service at a time

Travel is rare (once every few years)
Work out at home
Optimize daylight, burn one bulb at a time
Line-dry all laundry
Never go looking for things to buy
Choose the longest-lasting options
Gifts within the family are simple, inexpensive pleasures, usually food
Makeup rarely used; DIY haircuts

Really out there: 

If opening the fridge, habitually ask the other half if they need anything, to minimize power draw
Who needs a bedframe?
Hydrated people can flush less often
Treat the thermostat as a safety device for pipes & people instead of a comfort generator
Hypermiling, when driving at all
Buy minimal furniture, secondhand, or collect from the curb or friends
Reuse unavoidable plastic packaging to wrap organic material that can’t be composted (cat leavings), to contain smells & cut frequency of trash take-outs (wasting plastic trash bags, collection truck gas)

We do almost all the same things on your unusual list, and honestly, we've gotten so used to them that I didn't think of most of them when I was thinking about being frugal! They are just part of my day.

Re: Re-using tea. Certain herbal tisanes go forever! Mint is totally resteepable, fruit flavors are generally only good for a single cup. I get three to four cups out of a single mint tea bag in the winter.  (I figured I should share that if the goal of this thread is  to present people with new info they might not have thought of :) )

Other than your lack of flushing and your creative use of non recyclable plastic (which I don't find weird, just had never thought of it!), I don't find your "out there" list too out there either! I mean, we have a bedframe, but I agree that you don't really need one :)

I will say that we are planning a big trip right now, and every time we look up prices for something we kind of freak out because it seems SO expensive and that is because we just don't spend money generally. So that has been a kind of a bummer as we plan. We just hadn't realized how expensive activities have gotten (especially touristy ones).

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #108 on: May 10, 2023, 12:21:13 PM »
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.

fine I wash and re-use my toilet paper, happy?

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #109 on: May 10, 2023, 12:23:26 PM »
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.

fine I wash and re-use my toilet paper, happy?

Not unless you're using grey water to do the washing.  We have standards around here.  Or used to.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #110 on: May 10, 2023, 02:00:27 PM »
Posting before I've read the whole thread but... we stay home alot. We have a nice home, not fancy - but comfortable, with acres to enjoy. After dealing with the world all day it is nice to just be home. Or be home and invite over a friend or two for a meal and visit.

We keep our things forever. Car develops an issue? We repair it. Ourselves. We don't replace it. Frankly driving a 20+ year old car is dirt cheap if a person doesn't do alot of miles. The key is to learn to make a proper repair and not rely on duct tape and bailing wire b/c that will fail again and again. Repeat problems are not fun. Also, build a lifestyle that doesn't require alot of daily miles.

Purchasing durable things is a little like compound interest. Money spent once for a thing that lasts decades (sometimes lifetime?) rather than chucking the thing in the garbage every time there is a hiccup and purchasing a new thing. I'm the family tech nerd. It is amazing how many people (relatives) just throw something away without a thought and spend $XXX for another one. The recent episode that comes to mind is the relative that tossed something electronic b/c the batteries were low. Yes, that is why the screen was hard to read. It needed new batteries.

We also buy durable used things. Someone bought the best of a brand, didn't use it much and then later sold it for pennies on the dollar. What a find for the next person like you and me. The deluxe version of something, perfectly usable and with decades of life left in it. I've done it with cars, lawn tractors, furniture, clothing, shoes even, cameras, and other gadgets. We have a shoe outlet that sells returns and barely used shoes. Bought a pair of work boots for $40 that originally cost $160. They had zero wear inside or out.

We avoid advertising. Stream TV, stream music, purchase media we know we'll consume multiple times, etc. Helps us stay out of the stores. Helps us remain confident that our things are just fine despite not being the new version of 2% better than the old one at an 18% price increase.

We like to go out occasionally but we really like to stay home and cook too. FAR cheaper to spend dollars for a meal at home vs $12+ per person for sandwiches and almost $3 for a fountain drink. Helps keep a night out seem more special when we do go out.

Slow and steady for the win folks!

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« Reply #111 on: May 10, 2023, 03:38:10 PM »
Just thought of another frugal thing we do.

We try to be content with what we have. If I find myself comparing to my friends, I remind myself that we already have more than enough. We don’t need yet another vacation to a cool new destination, we don’t need this $300 “experience”, we don’t need a car. We don’t need to buy a tv or make our home any cuter with decor and furniture. We try our best not to compare ourselves to others.

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« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2023, 03:54:36 PM »
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.

Yeah, I had a bit of a chuckle when Jaguar ownership is mentioned in a thread on frugal choices.  "I hardly drive my Jag" doesn't seem like it meets the definition of frugal, and while it's nice that it's worth more than they paid, that only counts if and when they sell it and realize the gain. 

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2023, 03:58:22 PM »
Oh! I thought of more food related things:

One of our favourite "restaurants" is actually a Hari Krishna temple down the street. You make a small donation, usually $5 (hasn't changed in 20+ years since I've been going there), and they serve you a really delicious vegetarian meal.

This is usually the place I bring people I want to test out becoming friends with. It's sets the tone for what hanging out with me is like and gives me a read on them.





This seems odd to me for many reasons. What if your friends are fussy eaters and don’t like vegetables? What if they don’t think that people that can afford to eat elsewhere should be taking a cheap meal that could go to someone that really needs it?  Why would you feel the need to test out potential new friends? 

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2023, 04:12:16 PM »
Just thought of another frugal thing we do.

We try to be content with what we have. If I find myself comparing to my friends, I remind myself that we already have more than enough. We don’t need yet another vacation to a cool new destination, we don’t need this $300 “experience”, we don’t need a car. We don’t need to buy a tv or make our home any cuter with decor and furniture. We try our best not to compare ourselves to others.

@Freedomin5 I love this. Comparison--thief of joy and all that :)

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« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2023, 07:27:44 PM »
Oh! I thought of more food related things:

One of our favourite "restaurants" is actually a Hari Krishna temple down the street. You make a small donation, usually $5 (hasn't changed in 20+ years since I've been going there), and they serve you a really delicious vegetarian meal.

This is usually the place I bring people I want to test out becoming friends with. It's sets the tone for what hanging out with me is like and gives me a read on them.




This seems odd to me for many reasons. What if your friends are fussy eaters and don’t like vegetables? What if they don’t think that people that can afford to eat elsewhere should be taking a cheap meal that could go to someone that really needs it?  Why would you feel the need to test out potential new friends?

Well, it's not a food service for people who need it, it's a very popular place and all sorts of people go there. It's just a funky, cool experience.

I'm a former vegetarian chef, if someone is a fussy eater who doesn't like vegetables, they're not going to be a friend that I go out for meals with. Period. They might be some other kind of friend, but they won't be a meals friend.

Trust me, this has been a great litmus test for getting a read on how uptight potential friends are. Barring neurodivergence reasons, if someone gets all weird about taking their shoes off at a Hari Krishna temple where we can get some really amazing vegetarian food, that person is not likely to enjoy hanging out with me regularly.

FTR, I have friends with bland food tastes who only like chain restaurants. We do *not* dine out together. If someone can't handle a vegetarian curry, there's no way they'll have the stomach for the kind of food I go out for.
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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2023, 11:05:37 PM »
Big ticket money savers for us:

- cars. Two older cars, one big efficient diesel (45mpg) for transporting the whole family (we have three DC), and one 8yr old Leaf for DH commute, though he WFH as much as possible. Saved £1000 on fuel per year when we bought it, reducing spend by two-thirds. But biggest thing with cars is paying for them - we pay for them on credit card and then balance transfer regularly for 0% interest payments. Paid off the diesel years ago, Leaf will be done next year. Not paid a penny in interest so never needed to get any money out of savings/investments to spend on cars.

- firewood. Had a log burner installed in 2017. Have a fire nearly every day in winter (Nov-March). Never paid a penny for wood, we have processed a couple of our own trees that we had to remove on advice of a tree surgeon. Literally logged and bagged the entire tree down to the finest of kindling branches. We get the DC involved in family projects like this! Recently got a load of untreated scrap timber from a house next door that is being rebuilt from the ground up - DH has cut it to size and it is enough for about 3 years supply of firewood. We still have logs from a tree to process too. This keeps down our spend on gas for the central heating, especially in the cooler but not cold months.

- laundry. Have never owned a tumble drier, line dry wherever possible and if not, have a dehumidifier running in our small utility room that has racking to hang washing. Reusable everything - dish cloths, rags, nappies (though those days are thankfully over and the nappies are now rags!), san pro, facial wipes instead of cotton wool, flannels, etc. Super efficient washing machine that runs on cheap rate electricity overnight and only wash at 30 degrees.

- DIY. DH is an engineer and immensely practical. So he fixes plumbing, electrics, wonky furniture, rebuilt our garden trellis, built the compost bins, put up wallpaper, installs shelving - all that sort of stuff. I am good at paint colours, fabrics, sewing, repairs, thrifting furniture etc. Between us we fix just about everything. Memorably we have done things like re-sew the padding around our kids' trampoline using fishing line and the sewing machine, and edge leftover carpet to use as runners. DH also installed a new pump in our 11 year old dishwasher three years ago and it is still going strong. We very rarely need to get people in to do stuff. He's also a tech whizz and can repair laptops/phones etc - my laptop died so he bought a non-working one the same for peanuts on eBay and cannibalised the parts to get mine working again!

- food and cooking/gardening. I pack lunch for all the DC and DH if he is in the office. Never any leftovers and our backyard chickens get any scraps that are too good for the compost bin, in return for eggs. I make yogurt, sourdough etc. Rarely buy processed food. Make jam, chutney etc in season using produce from the garden. Grow my own flowers and veg from seed - total outlay on the garden in the last year has been for three sacks of potting compost for raising seedlings. For the rest I use our own garden compost.

Love this !

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« Reply #117 on: May 11, 2023, 05:49:29 AM »
I don't like to buy "stuff," drive an old car, and opted to work from home.  These are not unusual. I also DIY most things around the house, and am more likely to fix something or do it myself, like install a new clothes dryer or ceiling fan, than to ever hire someone to do it. Also probably common for us folks.

I think my most frugal thing though is DIY skin care.  I do at home mironeedling (dermaroller) and TCA acid peels (from Platinum Skincare). I also do LED lights (Omnilux), microcurrent (NuFace), radio frequency (Nebulyft), and laser therapy (Nira) at home.  These devices weren't cheap but way way way cheaper than doing to a derm or spa.  I also just got a plasma fibroblast pen (Snow Skin) I'm trying on my hands first--it hurts a lot.

I guess it would be cheaper to do nothing but still. I get my devices on sale only and with discount codes. I also cut and color my own hair, but mostly because I never get a great haircut otherwise.


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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #118 on: May 11, 2023, 07:10:32 AM »
I guess it would be cheaper to do nothing

This is my strategy. :-)

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #119 on: May 11, 2023, 08:03:50 AM »
I don't like to buy "stuff," drive an old car, and opted to work from home.  These are not unusual. I also DIY most things around the house, and am more likely to fix something or do it myself, like install a new clothes dryer or ceiling fan, than to ever hire someone to do it. Also probably common for us folks.

I think my most frugal thing though is DIY skin care.  I do at home mironeedling (dermaroller) and TCA acid peels (from Platinum Skincare). I also do LED lights (Omnilux), microcurrent (NuFace), radio frequency (Nebulyft), and laser therapy (Nira) at home.  These devices weren't cheap but way way way cheaper than doing to a derm or spa.  I also just got a plasma fibroblast pen (Snow Skin) I'm trying on my hands first--it hurts a lot.

I guess it would be cheaper to do nothing but still. I get my devices on sale only and with discount codes. I also cut and color my own hair, but mostly because I never get a great haircut otherwise.
What do those things do?

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #120 on: May 11, 2023, 11:33:39 AM »
Oh! I thought of more food related things:

One of our favourite "restaurants" is actually a Hari Krishna temple down the street. You make a small donation, usually $5 (hasn't changed in 20+ years since I've been going there), and they serve you a really delicious vegetarian meal.

This is usually the place I bring people I want to test out becoming friends with. It's sets the tone for what hanging out with me is like and gives me a read on them.




This seems odd to me for many reasons. What if your friends are fussy eaters and don’t like vegetables? What if they don’t think that people that can afford to eat elsewhere should be taking a cheap meal that could go to someone that really needs it?  Why would you feel the need to test out potential new friends?

Well, it's not a food service for people who need it, it's a very popular place and all sorts of people go there. It's just a funky, cool experience.

I'm a former vegetarian chef, if someone is a fussy eater who doesn't like vegetables, they're not going to be a friend that I go out for meals with. Period. They might be some other kind of friend, but they won't be a meals friend.

Trust me, this has been a great litmus test for getting a read on how uptight potential friends are. Barring neurodivergence reasons, if someone gets all weird about taking their shoes off at a Hari Krishna temple where we can get some really amazing vegetarian food, that person is not likely to enjoy hanging out with me regularly.

FTR, I have friends with bland food tastes who only like chain restaurants. We do *not* dine out together. If someone can't handle a vegetarian curry, there's no way they'll have the stomach for the kind of food I go out for.

That’s an interesting perspective but I don’t base my friendships on food preferences in any manner. When I go out to eat with friends even if people have allergies, are picky, vegetarian, etc we can find a place where everyone can enjoy the meal. The most important thing to me is the friendship. If I really have a desire for a certain restaurant I can go alone or with someone that likes to eat there. I also know what my friends like, are allergic to, etc and base my menu on that when having people over for dinner.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #121 on: May 11, 2023, 12:18:18 PM »

That’s an interesting perspective but I don’t base my friendships on food preferences in any manner. When I go out to eat with friends even if people have allergies, are picky, vegetarian, etc we can find a place where everyone can enjoy the meal. The most important thing to me is the friendship. If I really have a desire for a certain restaurant I can go alone or with someone that likes to eat there. I also know what my friends like, are allergic to, etc and base my menu on that when having people over for dinner.

Okay...but the post you quoted even says that I have plenty of friends whose taste in food I find awful, I just don't go to restaurants with them.

I've stayed for years here that I don't generally go to restaurants with people as a way of socializing. So why would I go to shitty restaurants with people just to socialize with them.

That would be like someone who doesn't generally take dance classes feeling the need to go to terrible dance classes with people just to be friends with them. It makes no sense.

I know that most people socialize by going out to dinners, but it's not my thing. So I'm not missing out on any connection with folks by not being willing to go with them to craptastic chain restaurants.

That aside, yes, I absolutely litmus test potential friends. I'm an acquired taste and because I don't socialize like most people do, I need to know if the person is going to respond well to my way of socializing.

If someone is stuck in their pub nights and dinners out as their primary way of socializing, then we're just not compatible as friends. That's fine. No one is obliged to be my friend. I'm also not obliged to be theirs.

I need friends who are cool with doing unusual shit out of nowhere. I select for the kind of people I can call and say "hey, wanna come with me to Montreal and commit fairly significant crimes?"

If they're not the kind of person who enjoys the opener "okay, I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out." Then they're not going to enjoy my friendship.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #122 on: May 11, 2023, 02:08:45 PM »
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.

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« Reply #123 on: May 11, 2023, 02:29:33 PM »
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.

And you seem weirdly keen on judging me for it, or at least that's the way it's coming off.

I'm very picky about who I become friends with. I make no apologies for that. It's worked well for me, I have fantastic friends and very emotionally generous friendships.

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« Reply #124 on: May 11, 2023, 04:37:11 PM »
My library just brought in the book The Evelasting Meal: Leftovers A-Z by Tamar Adler , it is a funny and strange cookbook that I recommend for entertainment purposes even if you already are a boss with leftovers.

I love this book so much that I BOUGHT a copy and it lives with the frequently-used cookbooks. In fact, I just finished the last of the "Peruvian sweet potato salad" she discusses around page 47. (It was a little onion-y, to be honest.)

I'll have to keep an eye out for this book. One of my frugal talents is designing meals based around interesting scraps of ingredients left in my fridge.

I use basic hand sewing skills to mend my stuff, especially darning my expensive hiking socks.

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« Reply #125 on: May 11, 2023, 10:14:42 PM »
We do almost all the same things on your unusual list, and honestly, we've gotten so used to them that I didn't think of most of them when I was thinking about being frugal! They are just part of my day.

Re: Re-using tea. Certain herbal tisanes go forever! Mint is totally resteepable, fruit flavors are generally only good for a single cup. I get three to four cups out of a single mint tea bag in the winter.  (I figured I should share that if the goal of this thread is  to present people with new info they might not have thought of :) ) ...

I had to think about it & reflect on what others have commented on (not the deferred flushing, that’s only ever when there are no guests to startle - but if you’re going every couple hours or more... such as while consuming a pot or two of tea after summer yardwork... times two people, what’s the harm in doubling up?) People have definitely witnessed me reuse tea for days. I mostly use loose teas but the good ones resteep half a dozen times. Herbal tisanes much the same, especially bush teas like rooibos. As they get weaker they’re a bit nicer iced than hot, though, great for spring & fall when the mornings are chill but the afternoons swelter.

...No house (rent when not travelling), no computer, laptop, tablet or internet just a cheap pay-as-you-go Tracfone. ...

Sometimes when I read mention of your incredible data discipline I am reminded of the Augustine quote: “Lord grant me chastity & continence, only not yet.” It’s really impressive to withstand the tide of online living. I wonder what effect RE would have on my usage.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #126 on: May 11, 2023, 11:51:40 PM »
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.

And you seem weirdly keen on judging me for it, or at least that's the way it's coming off.

I'm very picky about who I become friends with. I make no apologies for that. It's worked well for me, I have fantastic friends and very emotionally generous friendships.

I am totally not judging you for not eating out much. It’s unhealthy and restaurant food is full of salt, excess calories, etc.  My chiropractor told me today in fact that he hasn’t eaten out in 5 years because of how unhealthy it is. I just didn’t understand how the eating out related to friendships, etc so I asked and you explained.  I found it odd but an interesting way to approach things. If we were all the same life would be boring:)).

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« Reply #127 on: May 12, 2023, 06:43:27 AM »
no computer, laptop, tablet or internet just a cheap pay-as-you-go Tracfone.

I feel oddly flattered to be a member of a forum that earns your obviously very limited internet time!

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« Reply #128 on: May 12, 2023, 07:07:02 AM »
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.

And you seem weirdly keen on judging me for it, or at least that's the way it's coming off.

I'm very picky about who I become friends with. I make no apologies for that. It's worked well for me, I have fantastic friends and very emotionally generous friendships.


I am totally not judging you for not eating out much. It’s unhealthy and restaurant food is full of salt, excess calories, etc.  My chiropractor told me today in fact that he hasn’t eaten out in 5 years because of how unhealthy it is. I just didn’t understand how the eating out related to friendships, etc so I asked and you explained.  I found it odd but an interesting way to approach things. If we were all the same life would be boring:)).

Ah. Gotcha, tone sometimes is difficult to parse online.

Yes, I have an unusual way of approaching most things, but that's because I figure out what works for *me*.

A little context might help. I'm very well connected professionally and people are constantly trying to get close to me and be my "friend." But hanging out with me professionally is an extremely different experience than socializing with me in my personal life.

If someone is used to socializing with me at galas, private clubs, high end restaurants, all with open bars and expense accounts, they're going to be in for a shock when they see that my personal life is radically different.

So taking someone I'm considering being real friends with to a funky Hari Krishna temple and seeing how they react to that is a really low stakes intro to just how different things are with me outside of the professional context.

It's much gentler than dumping then straight into the ice cold water of asking if they want to be a body paint model at a rap concert, lol.

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« Reply #129 on: May 12, 2023, 08:46:49 AM »
...If someone is used to socializing with me at galas, private clubs, high end restaurants, all with open bars and expense accounts, they're going to be in for a shock when they see that my personal life is radically different. ...

The food was great, but I do not miss this part of pre-covid socializing. People who liked my very performative persona from the in-person era at work (that is, when I was capable of being overheard by clients) are not seeing what they will get elsewhere.

It feels like unkind false advertising towards the nice ones, who decide I must be the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing their mothers all warned them about, & also attracts a lot of not-so-nice ones I don't want any attention from at all. Money's a part of it, since "class" still has a double meaning in that slice of society much more than they like to admit, but it's more about the heavily gendered emotional labor I'm not willing to do without actually being paid for it.

On the other hand the friend who drags me out to something I never would have tried on my own is generally worth their weight in gold. I'm very expressive, so based on past remarks apparently it's usually humorous.

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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #130 on: May 12, 2023, 09:03:17 AM »
Interesting. When I think back on my most interesting memories and bonding experiences, they're usually challenging and often frugal. Random social dinners and charity galas are pretty forgettable and rarely leave me feeling closer to the people in attendance. Helping to build a house for a charity was memorable and promoted bonding. Watching a friend capsize their kayak and figuring out how to help is a memory and bonding experience I'll never forget.

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« Reply #131 on: May 12, 2023, 09:20:50 AM »
Interesting. When I think back on my most interesting memories and bonding experiences, they're usually challenging and often frugal. Random social dinners and charity galas are pretty forgettable and rarely leave me feeling closer to the people in attendance.

I was chatting with a group of other single adult friends not that long ago and we all agreed that dinner dates are the worst dates. Several of us have given up dinner dates as first dates because you learn nothing about the person except how well they manage polite chit-chat and maybe what their favorite food is.

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« Reply #132 on: May 12, 2023, 10:32:32 AM »
Interesting. When I think back on my most interesting memories and bonding experiences, they're usually challenging and often frugal. Random social dinners and charity galas are pretty forgettable and rarely leave me feeling closer to the people in attendance. Helping to build a house for a charity was memorable and promoted bonding. Watching a friend capsize their kayak and figuring out how to help is a memory and bonding experience I'll never forget.

Precisely. If I want to bond with someone, I do something challenging with them. Taking someone to a Hari Krishna temple for a meal is about the lowest threshold of challenging there is because it only lightly pushes people out of their comfort zone.

I only ask my coolest friends to commit crimes with me ;) lol

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« Reply #133 on: May 12, 2023, 10:45:22 AM »
Last year some friends and I wanted to make a gift for a friend who was having her first baby. She had moved to another state several years ago. So... we all got together and made a mobile with our faces swirling around. None of us had ever made a mobile before. It was among the most fun I've had with my friends in years... MetalcatChat™ here on the forum helped me recognize that it was the challenge that was so bonding.

When we finally finished it, the shipping rate turned it into a less-than-frugal thing to do, but otherwise it was quite inexpensive.

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« Reply #134 on: May 13, 2023, 08:24:57 AM »
no computer, laptop, tablet or internet just a cheap pay-as-you-go Tracfone.

I feel oddly flattered to be a member of a forum that earns your obviously very limited internet time!
Lol. Yeah spending less time online (on a tiny phone screen no less) can be pretty liberating. And frugal! Assuming you don't fill all that free time shopping off line ;-). I rarely go online and "visit" here less then previously but still enjoy reading others experiences and helpful input. Even us super frugal weirdo FIREees can still learn and be inspired.
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Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
« Reply #135 on: May 13, 2023, 11:16:20 AM »
sleep is the most frugal thing to do

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« Reply #136 on: May 13, 2023, 03:18:16 PM »
Unintentional dumpster diving.  Saw a duffel bag in our dumpster, too good to pass up.  It had an old Win 7 laptop inside, replaced the HD with a $20 SSD, good as new, loaded Win 10 on it.  Use it every day for basic email.

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« Reply #137 on: May 13, 2023, 06:25:51 PM »
Today I tried to repair a microwave that was acting like one of the switches that tells the circuit board if the door is closed had failed.  I used a multimeter to test all three switches and yeah, one of them had actually failed...  I put it all back together again, plugged it in, ran it and then it did the same thing it had been doing before except this time the lights went off and it just wouldn't power back up.  A minute later I realized that I had blown the circuit so I went to the garage to reset the breaker and tried again... same thing, it lit up just fine, but when ran it blew the circuit.

There's dangerous stuff inside a microwave that can kill you if you're not careful and I don't want to die so I guess I'm getting another microwave.  It's possible that I did something that caused this new, fun problem, but that seems unlikely as these switches are fairly straight forward to remove and install.

If that's not frugal enough I've spent a lot of time hand pulling the weeds I deserve because I forgot to drop pre-emergent on the lawn last fall rather than spend $ on a chemical weed killer.

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« Reply #138 on: May 13, 2023, 08:02:58 PM »
Well, today I installed a new (on sale) toilet to replace a water wasting one, and sold the old one on fb marketplace.

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« Reply #139 on: May 14, 2023, 06:03:42 AM »
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

+1 on the sprouting. Personi, I'm a fan of lentil sprouts.

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« Reply #140 on: May 14, 2023, 10:08:05 AM »
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!

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« Reply #141 on: May 14, 2023, 11:26:05 AM »
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!
That is very badass!

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« Reply #142 on: May 14, 2023, 12:09:21 PM »
I spent some time thinking about this, and its hard for me to say what the *single* most frugal thing we do is, and its hard for me to say that any *one* thing in particular makes us frugal or makes the biggest difference.  So for me personally, I'd have to say that it's just paying attention *overall* and being intentional with our money and spending in general, is the biggest frugal thing we do.

Our frugality scale is middle of the road IMO.  Far more frugal than the average American "super wasteful spendy pants spend every penny you make then borrow every penny you can qualify for to buy even more", but far LESS frugal than we could be.

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« Reply #143 on: May 14, 2023, 12:36:59 PM »
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!

I have had several street microwaves over the years that only needed a 50¢ fuse.

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« Reply #144 on: May 14, 2023, 12:51:38 PM »
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!

That's awesome!  If I could set aside the time to learning how to do all of that I'd give it a go, but lately time is in short supply as I work through a family medical emergency.  I've chosen to use my spare time to fiddle with my guitar for my own personal sanity.

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« Reply #145 on: May 14, 2023, 01:40:18 PM »
Overall, I'm probably not frugal by the standards of this forum but some aspects of our lives remain so:
- We almost never eat out. Wife still packs her lunch for work
- We basically don't buy alcohol except a couple times a year
- Keep our cars for a long time, typically about 12-14 years
- Lived in the same house for over 25 years (not sure if that counts though)

It should count. The transaction costs of buying and selling your residence and moving are substantial.

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« Reply #146 on: May 14, 2023, 02:05:50 PM »
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

+1 on the sprouting. Personi, I'm a fan of lentil sprouts.

another +1 for sprouting. Currently I'm really into buckwheat sprouts.
We grew enough sprouts( & froze enough greens) so that we barely bought any greenery over the winter. We had green beans, kale, mesclun mixes/mustard greens & even frozen brocollini which is a real garden treat mid-winter.. I love knowing my food didn't have to travel very far to get onto my plate.

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« Reply #147 on: May 14, 2023, 02:25:56 PM »
Quote from: Metalcat
I only ask my coolest friends to commit crimes with me ;) lol

Last year I found someone I decided needed to be my new best friend and we built a table together.
It's much gentler than dumping then straight into the ice cold water of asking if they want to be a body paint model at a rap concert, lol.

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I know that I could read your journal, but I kind of like the mental picture that I have of you. It's...eccentric.

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???

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« Reply #148 on: May 14, 2023, 04:15:10 PM »
Living my best life - in a camperized cargo van, following the sun. 😊

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« Reply #149 on: May 15, 2023, 07:10:09 AM »
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!
This is terrifying but also very impressive.