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Title: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on May 02, 2023, 09:59:57 AM
Seems there's a hankering for discussion on some unusually frugal choices, so let's do it!

What is the most (or Top 3, if you are so inclined) frugal thing you do?

Mine are probably driving very little (about 1000 miles/year) and living where we do to be super close to DH's work.  I'm definitely not a super frugal person, so I look forward to being inspired by those who are!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: MustachioedPistachio on May 02, 2023, 10:11:23 AM
For me, it is a beneficial housing arrangement with my brother. I helped him buy the house we currently live in (as in arranging the deal) with funds from our joint business. In return, my wife and I live there and pay $300 in rent, inclusive of utilities.

THANKFULLY we all get along :)

Also, I still bike/walk just about everywhere.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Omy on May 02, 2023, 10:16:53 AM
We do a lot of home improvement, maintenance, and repairs ourselves.

We keep cars forever (14 yo and 9 yo with no plans for replacement any time soon).

We rarely buy "stuff". We spend almost nothing on clothing, shoes, makeup, jewelry, home decor. We both hate shopping.

We are NOT very frugal when it comes to experiences, travel, and charity. We have become rather spendy in those categories now that we're FIREd.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on May 02, 2023, 10:20:00 AM
Most of the frugal things I do are pretty normal.  Don't buy stupid shit (or at least limit the stupid shit that I do buy).  Bike most places rather than drive.  Save most of the money I earn.

Top three frugal things I do that have been called 'unusual' though:
- Never paid for a cellphone in my life (work did eventually just give me one a few days ago though for 2 factor authentication purposes)
- Slept on a thin mattress on the floor, or directly on carpet for more than two decades rather than use a traditional raised mattress (mattresses suck and are a conspiracy to force you to waste money for worse sleep)
- Entirely stopped using toilet paper during the pandemic.  (Turns out TP is totally optional when there's a shower head in the room.)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 02, 2023, 10:23:23 AM
We share one car and I mostly walk, bus or bike.

I'm in the midst a low-buy year and my partner & I did a full no-buy year five years ago. It's a healthy reset for when when consumption has crept up.

I use the library religiously..love that place so much.

Garden in the summer and store/freeze/prep produce so that we have an abundance of food all winter. Between our garden and sprouting, I don't think I really bought any greens from the grocery store last winter.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 02, 2023, 10:27:16 AM
- Slept on a thin mattress on the floor, or directly on carpet for more than two decades rather than use a traditional raised mattress (mattresses suck and are a conspiracy to force you to waste money for worse sleep)

I did this as well for years until I dated someone who really didn't like sleeping on the floor for some reason. I mean...if we lived in Japan this would be totally normal :)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Raenia on May 02, 2023, 10:45:08 AM
I've almost entirely stopped buying books. Our library system is very good, with easy borrowing anywhere in the county system, and a reliable inter-library loan system for anything we can't find in the county system. As a person who usually reads 100+ books a year, all hard copy (no e- or audio-books), that's massive.

We are a one car household, with the smallest car we could find at the time (2012 Chevy Sonic). I walk a lot of my errands, we both WFH as much as possible, and use public transit otherwise. Car is always the last resort for getting places.

I buy half-bushel seconds of produce at a local farm, and can my own salsa, applesauce, and jams/preserves. We haven't bought jam in years.

We also don't travel for pleasure, all our travel in the past few years has been to stay with family. We've gone almost two years without flying at all. This is mostly for environmental reasons, but has been very good for frugality as well.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Life in Balance on May 02, 2023, 10:58:04 AM
I'm glad to see this discussion thread. 

Straight out of grad school, I bought too much house when I started my first "career" job.  Five years later, I downsized to a townhome and it's the best decision I've made in both financial and time-usage terms.  So much less to clean and maintain, and the townhome mortgage payment was a third of the "big house" (which was 2200 square feet).

I shop at Aldi for groceries and shop the perimeter.  Healthier and also cheaper, although more time spent in prep and cooking.

I don't go to any store unless I have something specific to buy.  I try to keep my environmental footprint as small as I can.  Not buying stuff is one way I do that.  It also helps me keep my home open and free of clutter and that makes me feel happy and peaceful. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: LifeHappens on May 02, 2023, 11:10:07 AM
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: poxpower on May 02, 2023, 11:21:31 AM
Hm went car camping as a vacation last year for 5+ months.
No rent or utilities to pay. Just gas. "saved" like 15-20k on hotels + rent + utilities doing that. But did blow about 5k on gas and car maintenance.

Renting a room atm for 750 when the going rate to live alone would be 1800+ here. I like to imagine it lowers my quality of life, but it really doesn't lol.
Since moving here this probably saved me 25-30k in cold hard post-tax cash.

I never buy anything new if I can help it. New furniture is possibly the dumbest purchase possible. I bought a desk with a retail value of >1500$ on marketplace, cost like 150$ and I resold it for like 100 later on. I was lucky to not have to pay to dump it. Rich friend bought a couch for 10k. No. No stop. No. Please. Stop. Buy a used one and throw a 9000$ party instead.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Treedream on May 02, 2023, 11:35:08 AM
I guess its in order:

I don't have a car, or a drivers license.

I don't have a television.

I don't eat or drink out, unless its a special occasion for myself, my family or a close friend.

I knit clothes and accessoires.

I dug up 2 butterfly bushes out of someone's garden, so I could take them for free and plant them in my own garden.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on May 02, 2023, 11:36:59 AM
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

I'd love your recipe for refried beans, plus any tips or tricks you might have.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on May 02, 2023, 11:40:54 AM
It's interesting (to me, at least) that this thread made me realize there are several things I do that I don't even think of as frugal, but that probably are to an outside.  For example, I use my phones until they are nearly unusable.  Currently an iphone 8 that I got when my iphone 4 bricked.  I guess I don't even think about this as frugal, because I don't care, at all, about my phone so it doesn't feel like a sacrifice or a conscious 'frugal' choice.

I guess this is the very best kind of frugality--something that doesn't even register or feel frugal at all. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on May 02, 2023, 11:46:13 AM
I dug up 2 butterfly bushes out of someone's garden, so I could take them for free and plant them in my own garden.

People do this sort of thing in our neighbourhood, but usually at night . . . and without permission.  :P
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Sanitary Stache on May 02, 2023, 11:56:44 AM
Yesterday I came home from dropping the kids off at school on the e-bike (frugal thing 1) with two grocery bags of dug up plants given to us from other peoples gardens (frugal thing 2).

From a cost saving perspective, probably DIY home improvement projects. Though processing my own chicken meat saves us maybe $1,000 a year.

Or is it saving in index funds rather than spending?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Omy on May 02, 2023, 12:01:41 PM
It's interesting (to me, at least) that this thread made me realize there are several things I do that I don't even think of as frugal, but that probably are to an outside.  For example, I use my phones until they are nearly unusable.  Currently an iphone 8 that I got when my iphone 4 bricked.  I guess I don't even think about this as frugal, because I don't care, at all, about my phone so it doesn't feel like a sacrifice or a conscious 'frugal' choice.

I guess this is the very best kind of frugality--something that doesn't even register or feel frugal at all.

Forgot about that one. I had my last Nokia (android) for 9 years. My current phone is almost 4 years old.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: lutorm on May 02, 2023, 12:19:21 PM
It's interesting (to me, at least) that this thread made me realize there are several things I do that I don't even think of as frugal, but that probably are to an outside.  For example, I use my phones until they are nearly unusable.  Currently an iphone 8 that I got when my iphone 4 bricked.  I guess I don't even think about this as frugal, because I don't care, at all, about my phone so it doesn't feel like a sacrifice or a conscious 'frugal' choice.
I also replace my phone (and my computers) much less frequently than seems usual, especially for someone who works in software. But this is not out of frugality but just because it's so immensely painful to migrate to a new one...

I'm almost clinically unable to pay for people to do work for me if it's something I could even conceivably do myself. Partly this is because I enjoy learning how to do stuff, but partly it's also because I've found that people you hire to do stuff almost invariably do a crappier job than you would yourself.

Case in point, I just spend a few days pressure washing and repainting our roof. Shortly after we moved in a decade ago we hired someone to paint it because we were going to put PV on the roof. I don't know if it was the paint or the work, but that paint was terrible, it had a porous, chalky surface that grew algae and crap and looked awful. Now I spent $150 on roof paint and a corrugated roller, took care to not paint in the sun, and it looks and feels so much better.

Anyway, stuff like that.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Raenia on May 02, 2023, 12:26:53 PM
It's interesting (to me, at least) that this thread made me realize there are several things I do that I don't even think of as frugal, but that probably are to an outside.  For example, I use my phones until they are nearly unusable.  Currently an iphone 8 that I got when my iphone 4 bricked.  I guess I don't even think about this as frugal, because I don't care, at all, about my phone so it doesn't feel like a sacrifice or a conscious 'frugal' choice.

I guess this is the very best kind of frugality--something that doesn't even register or feel frugal at all.

Forgot about that one. I had my last Nokia (android) for 9 years. My current phone is almost 4 years old.

That's a good one too, my current phone is the first smart phone I ever got (also Nokia), three years ago, and it was refurbished. Before that, I never replaced a phone that was still working. And it was only pandemic issues that made me move to a smart phone - needed an app to get onsite at my work, and the absurd work-around they came up with for people without a phone was driving me up a wall.

My current laptop was free, DH's work was decommissioning it and he got permission to take it home. It's running Linux because a Microsoft license is too expensive, and not necessary for the stuff I use it for. We got that one because my previous computer's screen broke - totally black display, broke. For a few months I just used it hooked up to an external monitor that we had lying around, then it stopped recognizing the monitor and I had no way to see anything, so I really had to replace.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 02, 2023, 12:28:34 PM

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

I'd love your recipe for refried beans, plus any tips or tricks you might have.

I’m not the poster but recently I tried this recipe and they turned out wonderfully. Froze them in small containers so I can pull them out for burritos, etc.
https://www.themagicalslowcooker.com/slow-cooker-refried-beans/
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 02, 2023, 12:29:02 PM
Food:

Thanks to @Lews Therin we are now getting the majority of our groceries from a service that collects food that would be waste from grocery stores. We get more than enough food for a week for the two of us for $40, often very expensive cheeses and meats.

I normally only cook vegetarian, but I find it easier and quicker to cook with meat, and with my leg still fucked up and produce so expensive, cheaper, easier to make meals is very, very nice right now.

I'm going to sorely miss this when we go back to Newfoundland where food is more expensive than our mortgage. Because it's so expensive there, we bring an enormous amount of dried beans, rice, spices, and sauces from Bulk Barn with us, which dramatically cuts food costs. Local cuisine there focuses on root vegetables, so I factor that in to my meal planning.

On the bright side, seafood is dirt cheap there and seafood makes me very, very happy, so that's a major benefit.

Housing:

Okay, so we're not exactly frugal on this front because we own 2 houses and keep them empty half the year, which is inefficient and wasteful, but that's temporary and just because of my surgery situation and never knowing when my dates will be until a few weeks before. Being able to get away from Ontario between surgeries is kind of key to my sanity right now.

That said, the combined cost of our 2 homes, both of which we bought recently is less than 30% of the average home cost in Canada.

For our Ontario home we chose a 1 bedroom condo in a 50 year old highrise in one of the highest crime, working class neighbourhoods in the country. It's not a typical high crime area though, we never feel our personal safety is at risk. But that doesn't stop people from thinking we're absolutely insane for living here.

For our Newfoundland house, we got a screaming deal because unlike the rest of Canada, NL real estate plummeted during the pandemic. Also, houses are usually listed there for well over a year and the sellers urgently needed to sell. It's actually in a highly desirable area. It's one of the most beautiful locations on earth and a bucket-list travel destination. The property was purchased for either personal use or as a vacation rental.

For now, we own it as an alternative to taking vacations, which I can't really do because of my legs, so it adds months of adventure for a very affordable price, especially for a location where travel is expensive.

Once the surgeries are done and I can leave the Ontario healthcare system, we plan to save quite a bit by living full time out there for awhile. This is an extreme move because there are reasons almost no one has the stones to move there full time. The weather is literally terrifying for 8 months of the year, it can snow in June, access to healthcare is abysmal, and I already mentioned the food, right? Well it's not just expensive, getting decent quality is hard, especially produce.

Giving up the Ontario home to live out there full time is pretty intense, but we're keen to try it out, at least for awhile after all of these surgeries are finally done.

Plus certain types of weirdos love living there year round despite the total insanity of it, and we think we might be that brand of weirdo.

What I love most about it out there is that the culture is naturally mustachian. No one is impressed by expensive cars, houses, or even fancy jobs. The lifestyle is very casual and outdoorsy (well, when the weather lets you leave your house), and I have a hard time even getting people to charge me for services.

My neighbour built a deck for me for free, my contractor (also a neighbour) just did a towing job for me and refused to charge me, the furniture store manager (also a neighbor) and my contractor had to take apart my sliding door to get a sectional into my house while I was away and they didn't even tell me, much less bill me. They'll tease me about it for the rest of their lives and then their children will take over teasing me and I'll be forever known as the silly Ontario girl who bought a giant sofa for a tiny house, lol. Note, they had each only met me once.

When anyone does charge me for anything, it's very cheap compared to Ontario because labour rates are lower, but also, they give me these totally ridiculous discounts sometimes for literally no reason.

Car:

The usual: we own a small, used, compact car that we barely drive except when we drive out to Newfoundland. It's a 2017 Chevy Sonic and I love it SO MUCH. It's my favourite car I've ever had, and I've had a few because I have exceptionally bad luck with buying lemons. Like, I bought probably the only Corolla lemon that has ever existed, lol.

DH bikes everywhere, even in super harsh winters. On the rare days it's too harsh to bike, he'll run.

Clothing/beauty:

We admittedly spend A LOT for a number of specific items, but we own very minimalist capsule wardrobes of primarily merino wool items that rarely need to be washed. I wear quite literally the same basic outfit 99% of the time. I can pack my entire core wardrobe in a small carry-on.

We use minimal products: water-only haircare, coconut oil for face cleansing, a bit of plain yogurt with honey or overly bruised avocado for face masks. I rarely wear makeup and when I do it's typically just eyebrow pencil and some cheek stain. I use a few beauty products (retinol, glycolic acid) from The Ordinary, which are cheap and last forever.

We get cheap haircuts at a barber when I'm not just shaving my head, I do on and off colour my hair, but I've always done it myself.

Household:

We buy as much used as possible, and I'm quite handy at DIY. We also embrace the dated elements of our homes and also try to cater our style to the age of the home instead of updating the home to suit a pre-defined taste.

Leisure:

We highly prioritize free/cheap outdoor activities. With my legs fucked this has been really hard/impossible for me. But DH is very into mountain biking and hiking. His mountain bike is 20+ years old.

We also attend a lot of community events, free concerts, university lectures, that sort of thing. There's a community center lecture tonight about local natural history from one of my former professors, all about invasive species in the area.

One of our favourite activities is seeing live streams of world class theater performances at the movie theater. We've seen live streams of shows we wouldn't otherwise have access to, like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan in No Man's Land on Broadway. This is particularly amazing for ballet, because the view is so much closer.

Our quality of leisure activities increased DRAMATICALLY when we started prioritizing cheap/free things to do. Back when we were spending on leisure it was much more boring, but focusing on free/cheap started getting us outside a lot more and engaging a lot more creatively.

Even if I was painfully rich, I would still put an emphasis on free/cheap activities because our lives have just become so much more fun since we made that change.

In certain ways this is easier in Ontario because there are so many options in our city, but in other ways it's easier in Newfoundland because that's the cultural norm. Restaurants and shops are for tourists.

Tech:

I only added this after the other posts. We really don't care about tech. We buy the cheapest phones, we have very cheap plans, and we didn't pay for our laptops. I have a Fire tablet I got on prime day many years ago for watching movies when I travel. DH has an ancient iPad mini with a cracked screen that he uses to stream Pilates videos. We get software licenses through work/school

The exception is that we have a lot of expensive pet tech, but this isn't the thread to talk about that.

Other:

We convinced our families to stop exchanging gifts for birthdays and Christmas. We still give gifts to the kids, but there are only 3 in the family.

We don't drink alcohol or pop and we don't buy any "snack" foods, which tend to be disproportionately expensive.

Until the surgeries, I groomed the poodle...that said, now that I have access to a cheap groomer in Newfoundland, I doubt I'll ever do it myself again. It's a fucking horrible job.

I brush all of the pets teeth regularly. This can save a fortune in vet care.

We specifically seek out working class places to live to lower the social expectations in terms of lifestyle. A lot of our friends are high income, but the day to day people we live among are working class.



Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 02, 2023, 12:29:44 PM

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

I'd love your recipe for refried beans, plus any tips or tricks you might have.

I’m not the poster but recently I tried this recipe and they turned out wonderfully. Froze them in small containers so I can pull them out for burritos, etc.
https://www.themagicalslowcooker.com/slow-cooker-refried-beans/

For anyone who wants cheap legume based recipes, there are 150 on the first page of my journal
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Fru-Gal on May 02, 2023, 12:35:32 PM
Take Amtrak, bike and bus long distance. Got my Amtrak rewards card and am going to try to manufacture some spend to get 20k points in the first three months (may not succeed since I keep forgetting to use the card for non-train stuff).

Currently annoyed at response to my sharing that I took those three modes of transport to a stunning wilderness area currently being destroyed by excessive auto traffic. The response was “eh, it’s not worth it to me”. I guess I would prefer the lie of “wow, maybe someday I’ll take the train too” to “nah. Gas is cheap.” (To be clear, gas and car ownership are most definitely not cheaper than a $35 train ticket.) Another argument that occurred to me (that I won’t make) is that I am FI so slow travel and transit is not a burden, it’s a pleasure. Finally, I @$%# love the train.

But I’m not an absolutist, I do have a very old car. Also, since the return trip by train sometimes feels a little boring/like a slog, it occurred to me that one could train out and fly back.

Also, knowing how to use transit is part of it… my family and I are very comfortable with the slow, relaxing pace of trains, buses, ferries, bikes, etc. People with car-brain are not.

But I have long realized that by being a woman cyclist and someone who uses transit often I am simply unusual. Sad but true.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Fru-Gal on May 02, 2023, 12:43:49 PM
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water-only haircare

Me too!!! My hair is in amazing shape since starting no shampoo 5-6 years ago and I have saved so much money/bathroom clutter.

I’m literally afraid to use shampoo or conditioner since my scalp does the job so well now and I don’t want to mess up the balance it has achieved.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: StarBright on May 02, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
I don't do anything out of the ordinary but the thing that has been really helpful the last couple of years has been being an active participant in my local Buy Nothing Group. I give away plenty and have often been able to get things I need just by asking.

In the last year we have gotten:


It is a wonderful site to give and receive consumer goods. I always try Buy Nothing before even thinking about shopping. 

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 02, 2023, 12:47:15 PM
Take Amtrak, bike and bus long distance. Got my Amtrak rewards card and am going to try to manufacture some spend to get 20k points in the first three months (may not succeed since I keep forgetting to use the card for non-train stuff).

Currently annoyed at response to my sharing that I took those three modes of transport to a stunning wilderness area currently being destroyed by excessive auto traffic. The response was “eh, it’s not worth it to me”. I guess I would prefer the lie of “wow, maybe someday I’ll take the train too” to “nah. Gas is cheap.” (To be clear, gas and car ownership are most definitely not cheaper than a $35 train ticket.) Another argument that occurred to me (that I won’t make) is that I am FI so slow travel and transit is not a burden, it’s a pleasure. Finally, I @$%# love the train.

But I’m not an absolutist, I do have a very old car. Also, since the return trip by train sometimes feels a little boring/like a slog, it occurred to me that one could train out and fly back.

Also, knowing how to use transit is part of it… my family and I are very comfortable with the slow, relaxing pace of trains, buses, ferries, bikes, etc. People with car-brain are not.

But I have long realized that by being a woman cyclist and someone who uses transit often I am simply unusual. Sad but true.

This is so weird to me. Everyone here seems to love the train. Also, in my area I would say that I see equal men and woman biking, but I'm in a VERY pro-bike area.

It just goes to show how different communities value such different things, which was a lot of the focus of my very long post.

I'm more and more valuing living in communities that cultivate my values and lifestyle. I affectionately refer to places I feel at home in as "wool sweater" places. I picked this up from the Danish habit of wearing a lot of wool and going outside in poor weather.

I do well among people who throw on a wool sweater and go outside.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 02, 2023, 12:49:53 PM
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water-only haircare

Me too!!! My hair is in amazing shape since starting no shampoo 5-6 years ago and I have saved so much money/bathroom clutter.

I’m literally afraid to use shampoo or conditioner since my scalp does the job so well now and I don’t want to mess up the balance it has achieved.

It's crazy how much easier my hair is since giving up hair products. It used to be frizzy and difficult and require heat styling to not look stupid. Now it's always soft, shiny, and super manageable. If it looks stupid, I just need to wet it and put it where I want it to be and then it just dries nicely there.

My scalp used to be an asshole too because I have psoriasis, but now it's usually fine.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Fru-Gal on May 02, 2023, 12:59:01 PM
Yes, and I suspect the beauty industry has noticed the drop in shampoo sales or the trend towards no-shampoo, because beauty influencers at the beginning of the year were touting “scalp health” remedies and saying this was a huge concern for people.

The beauty industry does come up with some good stuff but so much is obviously just trying to create and then capitalize on a new insecurity. For instance, I lost respect for a young YouTube influencer recently who claimed that the first step in her “no-makeup” beauty routine was to use special whitening eye drops. Now I have seen these drops recently making the influencer rounds so I knew what was up. But it was just so phony, no way was using these drops her daily routine.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: redhead84 on May 02, 2023, 01:05:10 PM
Here are the biggest ways we stay frugal.

Housing: We've stayed in the "starter" home for 15 years. We don't chase the latest décor trends and rarely buy new things unless something is broken. The house is small and easy to maintain. The mortgage is paid off.

Transportation: Our cars are 10+ years old and no plans to replace them until they no longer safely operate . We've had some larger maintenance bills over the last year, but we're still coming out way ahead.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Adventine on May 02, 2023, 01:10:09 PM
I cut open toothpaste and sunscreen tubes to use up every last bit of product.


I haven't worn makeup in 7-ish years. But I am religious about sunscreen. That plus an alcohol-free, low-stress lifestyle mean I look younger than most of my peers.


I don't buy jewelry. I got my silicone wedding ring on sale ($12 for a four pack) online.


I have never bought furniture in my life. My favorite piece of furniture is a nice comfy chaise that we found on the curb in our neighborhood and hauled home.


I'm sure I'll think of a few more :)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 02, 2023, 01:18:15 PM
Yes, and I suspect the beauty industry has noticed the drop in shampoo sales or the trend towards no-shampoo, because beauty influencers at the beginning of the year were touting “scalp health” remedies and saying this was a huge concern for people.

The beauty industry does come up with some good stuff but so much is obviously just trying to create and then capitalize on a new insecurity. For instance, I lost respect for a young YouTube influencer recently who claimed that the first step in her “no-makeup” beauty routine was to use special whitening eye drops. Now I have seen these drops recently making the influencer rounds so I knew what was up. But it was just so phony, no way was using these drops her daily routine.

Yeah, the beauty industry always finds a way to monetize everything.

The curly hair method used to be about minimal products and now it's all about crazy expensive products.

The rise of influencers has also created rapid-fire micro trends in beauty, which means the cycles are now a few days or weeks where they used to be months or years.

I can't go near any online beauty content without feeling kind of I'll because it's just so out of fucking control.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: LifeHappens on May 02, 2023, 01:53:12 PM
Ok, I am loving reading and nodding along to so many of the posts. "Do that. Oh yeah, I do that one. Haven't tried that. Good idea!"
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

I'd love your recipe for refried beans, plus any tips or tricks you might have.
I, uh, am not much of a recipe cook. Basically I cook a cup of dried pintos in the crock pot until they are pretty soft. Then I drain them, add a bit of broth, some chili powder and cumin and mash them with a potato masher. I guess that technically makes them Mashed Beans, not Refried Beans :)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: AMandM on May 02, 2023, 01:58:16 PM
Mine are boring.

Have one old car, don't drive it much. DH commutes by bike.

Cook at home from scratch.

Cut our own hair.

Shop only when necessary, primarily at thrift stores.

Live in a neighborhood with an active freecycle type of culture.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Catbert on May 02, 2023, 02:03:47 PM

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

Another recipe:
https://www.budgetbytes.com/not-refried-beans/

I do on the stove rather than slowcooker.
I'd love your recipe for refried beans, plus any tips or tricks you might have.

I’m not the poster but recently I tried this recipe and they turned out wonderfully. Froze them in small containers so I can pull them out for burritos, etc.
https://www.themagicalslowcooker.com/slow-cooker-refried-beans/
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 02, 2023, 02:05:29 PM
special whitening eye drops

What fresh hell....

I love makeup and jewelry... but I can't for the life of me understand how much people spend on them. But one of my oldest friends is a makeup artist whose brain is an encyclopedia of drugstore dupes, preservation tricks, and multi-use items.

All my jewelry is from yard sales. I am convinced the only good jewelry is at yard sales. I never see anything in a jewelry store that I actually like.

That said, I don't have very much of either. The most I have of any one product is three lipsticks-- the everyday one, the date one, and the one I normally regret buying, but it was in a clearance bin for less than half price and I think it frightens men, which occasionally is just the kind of mood I'm in.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Zikoris on May 02, 2023, 03:54:38 PM
The things that seem to stand out most to other people are:

1. Not going to restaurants or drinking alcohol
2. Being VERY low-tech - I have a nine year old flip phone, my home computer is a several-year-old basic Chromebook, we don't have a smart tv/television service, and don't do apps or much social media etc.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dreamer40 on May 02, 2023, 05:13:07 PM
My frugal practices are pretty typical.

DH and I have always shared a car and we keep them forever.

I cut my own hair and don’t do any of the other salon stuff my friends do like manicures and eyebrows and whatnot.

I bake most of our bread and grow some of our food. The best money saver for food is the epic amount of raspberries I grow every year. We eat as much as we want fresh and freeze enough for overnight oats the rest of the year.

I workout at home with a set of resistance bands and a set of adjustable dumbbells that I’ve used for years. No gym membership or fancy equipment needed.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Ron Scott on May 02, 2023, 05:16:15 PM
1. Don’t drink alcohol
2. Buy good cars, maintain them properly, and keep them for a decade or 2.
3. Dislike restaurants in general so.
4. Tiny WR in retirement. Giving $$$ annually to daughter & co. Plan to leave a nice inheritance with step ups.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: seemsright on May 02, 2023, 05:18:07 PM
My kid got into the Highly Competitive Early College High School. She will get High School and one year free at the local community college paid for by the district. This years seniors got 7 million in scholarship funds. With there being about 60 students that is an amazing amount of scholarship money.   
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: vand on May 02, 2023, 05:18:28 PM
In the grand scheme of things, probably being a DIYer and being able to fix and improve our home over the last few years has saved me the most $$$... doesn't feel like it when you are still spending money on tools and materials down at the DIY store though!

Its not just the money savings though, its the self-sufficiency and life-skills that make it worth it.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 02, 2023, 05:26:13 PM
I got caught up in the discussion and forgot to answer the question.

I feel like I used to be so much more frugal, but some things I do:

-getting nearly all of my furniture for free by stalking the free sections of Marketplace and Craigslist
-buying nearly all clothing, shoes, and accessories used
-having a sub-$200 grocery budget
-cutting my own hair & kid's hair
-line-drying clothes
-mending and tailoring clothes myself
-using a prepaid mobile phone plan, paid annually, and buying refurbished phones that are a year or two old
-drinking alcohol at a rate of approximately one bottle of gin per year.

Most of this combined won't come close to the savings on not carrying debt and having bought a house for 20% below listing at a good moment in interest rate history.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: AMandM on May 02, 2023, 05:29:54 PM
My kid got into the Highly Competitive Early College High School. She will get High School and one year free at the local community college paid for by the district. This years seniors got 7 million in scholarship funds. With there being about 60 students that is an amazing amount of scholarship money.

Oh, that reminds me of another:

Sent 5 kids to the college where DH works, so they all got free tuition. That saved us (on paper) something like $1,000,000... though only on paper, because our EFC was usually low enough that we wouldn't have had to pay the full price.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cranky on May 02, 2023, 05:39:14 PM
We’ve been a one car family for 45 years. (I don’t drive.) Before I retired I walked to work.

We almost always eat at home. I like to cook but keep it pretty simple.

I’ve cut dh’s hair for 25 years, though I do get my own hair cut at CostCutters.

I mostly buy stuff at thrift stores. I mend and upcycle and knit.

Most stuff just doesn’t seem that great. It’s pretty easy for me not to buy it.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Ron Scott on May 02, 2023, 05:41:19 PM
In the grand scheme of things, probably being a DIYer and being able to fix and improve our home over the last few years has saved me the most $$$... doesn't feel like it when you are still spending money on tools and materials down at the DIY store though!

Ugh…you were doing great then you ruined it with your attitude!
[MOD EDIT: I know the Internet gets like this, but we try to keep better manners on this forum]

I DIY for most things, except serious plumbing and electrical and I don’t get on the roof anymore. I remember when I bought my first gas chain saw. A tree died and the guy wanted $350. No thank you. DW asks what’d spend on that? I said I made us $220 on it.

The right tool, good-to-better quality, is not a waste of money.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: seemsright on May 02, 2023, 05:44:20 PM
My kid got into the Highly Competitive Early College High School. She will get High School and one year free at the local community college paid for by the district. This years seniors got 7 million in scholarship funds. With there being about 60 students that is an amazing amount of scholarship money.

Oh, that reminds me of another:

Sent 5 kids to the college where DH works, so they all got free tuition. That saved us (on paper) something like $1,000,000... though only on paper, because our EFC was usually low enough that we wouldn't have had to pay the full price.

congrats.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: vand on May 02, 2023, 05:58:17 PM
In the grand scheme of things, probably being a DIYer and being able to fix and improve our home over the last few years has saved me the most $$$... doesn't feel like it when you are still spending money on tools and materials down at the DIY store though!

Ugh…you were doing great then you ruined it with your attitude!

I DIY for most things, except serious plumbing and electrical and I don’t get on the roof anymore. I remember when I bought my first gas chain saw. A tree died and the guy wanted $350. No thank you. DW asks what’d spend on that? I said I made us $220 on it.

The right tool, good-to-better quality, is not a waste of money.

You are right. My point is that it still costs something, and sometimes quite a lot, in outright terms. Thousands saved can still mean thousands spent.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: TreeLeaf on May 02, 2023, 06:18:15 PM
Super cheap housing and cheap vehicles, basically.

Also - All of the furniture, besides a bed, in my current 3,000 square foot house was free.

If you move into a house and do not furnish it at all, free furniture just shows up over time from family members getting rid of furniture, the side of the curb, helping people move and them giving you first dibs on their unwanted furniture, helping clean out foreclosed properties, etc.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: deborah on May 02, 2023, 06:27:03 PM
Not drinking alcohol. I didn’t think this was much, but a friend and I went away together and she commented on how much less my bills were than hers.
Not having a tv.
Not working (being retired). Both of these are full of ads. Fellow workers are amazing at getting you to buy things without you realising it.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: srrb on May 02, 2023, 07:00:04 PM
Nothing much is abnormal by MMM standards:
Rarely eat out, pretty low alcohol intake, use the library, walk most places instead of drive or transit, don't dress up in performance sportswear for a day hike, hobbies don't involve much expense ... I exercise, socialize, volunteer, read, knit, garden, and sleep.

I love my life, but a lot of people think it's pretty boring. Like many of us are INTJ or similar on personality tests, do you think there's something up with our dopamine & serotonin receptors/levels? Why don't I need shopping, parties, and regular new experiences to "feel alive"?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Zikoris on May 02, 2023, 07:07:20 PM
Not drinking alcohol. I didn’t think this was much, but a friend and I went away together and she commented on how much less my bills were than hers.

I eventually realized this is probably the sole reason my trips are substantially cheaper than most other people, despite that I always get hosed on flights. I think a lot of people on vacation drink some amount of alcohol literally every single day of the trip. Not necessarily getting sloshed, but just a steady thing.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Adventine on May 02, 2023, 08:08:42 PM
Not drinking alcohol. I didn’t think this was much, but a friend and I went away together and she commented on how much less my bills were than hers.

I eventually realized this is probably the sole reason my trips are substantially cheaper than most other people, despite that I always get hosed on flights. I think a lot of people on vacation drink some amount of alcohol literally every single day of the trip. Not necessarily getting sloshed, but just a steady thing.


You probably also go easy on the souvenirs?


I come from a culture where it's expected that, if you went out of town, and especially overseas, you would bring home souvenirs for family, friends and even coworkers. Not doing that is an incredible faux pas, almost like you weren't raised properly. I was glad to leave that custom behind.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Valley of Plenty on May 02, 2023, 08:25:28 PM
I house hack a triplex which brings in rental income equal to approximately 4x the mortgage cost.

My vehicle is 10 years old (and paid off, naturally), and I only go through a tank of gas about every other month due to close proximity to work and carpooling with a coworker.

I recently started cutting my own hair at home, and was pleasantly surprised with how well it turned out.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Gremlin on May 02, 2023, 09:04:33 PM
I dug up 2 butterfly bushes out of someone's garden, so I could take them for free and plant them in my own garden.

People do this sort of thing in our neighbourhood, but usually at night . . . and without permission.  :P
Mrs G came back from a run early one morning last year to find a couple snipping the last of about thirty roses off our rosebushes in order to make themselves a bouquet.  She was not very happy to say the least. 

In a separate incident, we have a particularly spectacular tree in our back garden.  Earlier this year I caught a lady, probably in her seventies, in our backyard hacking off a large branch so that she could propagate it (it's a variety that does so).  If she'd asked, I wouldn't have hesitated to give her an off-cut, but instead she's hacked off a bit that completely changes the shape and shade cover that the tree provides.

Back on topic, we use the local 'buy nothing' group as our first stop whenever we are looking for anything beyond 'staples'. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Gremlin on May 02, 2023, 09:12:39 PM
In the grand scheme of things, probably being a DIYer and being able to fix and improve our home over the last few years has saved me the most $$$... doesn't feel like it when you are still spending money on tools and materials down at the DIY store though!

Ugh…you were doing great then you ruined it with your attitude!

I DIY for most things, except serious plumbing and electrical and I don’t get on the roof anymore. I remember when I bought my first gas chain saw. A tree died and the guy wanted $350. No thank you. DW asks what’d spend on that? I said I made us $220 on it.

The right tool, good-to-better quality, is not a waste of money.

Not sure about your local areas, but our Buy Nothing Group is full of requests to borrow specific tools/equipment for short-term use.  I've borrowed all manner of high quality tools (and lent out my own meagre supply) to enable me to do jobs without lining the pockets of the DIY stores in the process.  Much cheaper than having a shed full of quite specific tools that have each only been used sparingly.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Zikoris on May 02, 2023, 09:17:33 PM
Not drinking alcohol. I didn’t think this was much, but a friend and I went away together and she commented on how much less my bills were than hers.

I eventually realized this is probably the sole reason my trips are substantially cheaper than most other people, despite that I always get hosed on flights. I think a lot of people on vacation drink some amount of alcohol literally every single day of the trip. Not necessarily getting sloshed, but just a steady thing.


You probably also go easy on the souvenirs?


I come from a culture where it's expected that, if you went out of town, and especially overseas, you would bring home souvenirs for family, friends and even coworkers. Not doing that is an incredible faux pas, almost like you weren't raised properly. I was glad to leave that custom behind.

Oh yes, I forgot about shopping. We don't generally do that either due mostly to space constraints, since we travel VERY light. But one thing that's kind of cool is that when we do buy stuff, it's totally practical and useful, so we actually have a fair bit of cool stuff kicking around that we use. For example, I have some pretty hair pins/clips I bought in Asia, and I wear them constantly. We also rock the elephant pants every summer, though our collection of those is getting pretty sparse these days.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: onecoolcat on May 02, 2023, 09:42:46 PM
I started working 100% remotely when my office changed their policy and makes us pay for parking.  I do mystery shops of restaurants when I want eat out.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Treedream on May 03, 2023, 02:31:42 AM
In the last year (april 2022-2023) I used 570 kWh. That is less than half the average use for a single persons household according to my provider.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: 2sk22 on May 03, 2023, 03:00:16 AM
Overall, I'm probably not frugal by the standards of this forum but some aspects of our lives remain so:
- We almost never eat out. Wife still packs her lunch for work
- We basically don't buy alcohol except a couple times a year
- Keep our cars for a long time, typically about 12-14 years
- Lived in the same house for over 25 years (not sure if that counts though)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Freedomin5 on May 03, 2023, 03:30:18 AM
1. We took advantage of geographic arbitrage and became expats.

That gave us free housing walking/biking distance to work/school, and access to a lower cost of living country that ended up lowering the cost of food, transportation, phone, utilities, etc. Being expats also gave us the use of free laptops through work and DH gets free lunch at work.

We also don’t buy alcohol and eat most of our meals at home (except for free lunch at work). We don’t own a car.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Money Badger on May 03, 2023, 06:03:07 AM
Some real gems in this thread...   Still chuckling about the comments about the butterfly bushes from several... 

So in hopes confession is good for the soul, here it is... dinner napkins!  I have a thing about "creatively acquiring" them from the fast casual places we're going to more now with an empty nest.   There's nothing like sitting down for a meal at home later with a mix of Subway and Chipotle branded finery.   And when we go to our once a week sit down dinner at our favorite Mexican place with the soft plushy ones, the napkin bandit strikes again!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 03, 2023, 06:39:13 AM
Oh! I thought of more food related things:

One of our favourite "restaurants" is actually a Hari Krishna temple down the street. You make a small donation, usually $5 (hasn't changed in 20+ years since I've been going there), and they serve you a really delicious vegetarian meal.

This is usually the place I bring people I want to test out becoming friends with. It's sets the tone for what hanging out with me is like and gives me a read on them.

If DH and I feel like having restaurant take out, which I have frequently these past few months due to being stuck in bed, we have an app that we can reserve discounted meals from a nearby hotel restaurant. We never know what we'll get, it's usually remaining specials from that night, but it's always good. So we can get the equivalent of $30-40 per person meals for ~$7 each.

There are other restaurants and stores on the App, called "Too Good To Go" but the hotel restaurant is the most reliable and closest to us.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 03, 2023, 07:58:36 AM
There are other restaurants and stores on the App, called "Too Good To Go" but the hotel restaurant is the most reliable and closest to us.

I used to use an app like that to get free leftover Pret a Manger sandwiches on the way home from my class. It was like magic! I keep looking for one like it locally.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 03, 2023, 08:03:40 AM
Some real gems in this thread...   Still chuckling about the comments about the butterfly bushes from several... 

My mom keeps raiding my flowerbeds for cuttings and roots. But she also spontaneously leaves cuttings and roots, so maybe it evens out?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: deborah on May 03, 2023, 08:07:59 AM
It’s amazing how plants multiply if you’re prepared to wait a few years. Get one or two of what you want, then use the seeds or cuttings to get more until you have a yard covered with the plant, and it only takes a few years.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on May 03, 2023, 08:17:08 AM
It’s amazing how plants multiply if you’re prepared to wait a few years. Get one or two of what you want, then use the seeds or cuttings to get more until you have a yard covered with the plant, and it only takes a few years.

My mom has a bunch of hostas in her yard . . . and every few years they get overgrown and all need to be split.  So mom digs them out, but then has all these hostas to transplant and nowhere to put them.  So originally she tried giving them away for free on craigslist, but nobody would take her up on the offer.  So last year she tried charging 5$ each for them . . . and made about 200$ and sold them all.

People are so weird.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 03, 2023, 08:32:07 AM
It’s amazing how plants multiply if you’re prepared to wait a few years. Get one or two of what you want, then use the seeds or cuttings to get more until you have a yard covered with the plant, and it only takes a few years.

My mom has a bunch of hostas in her yard . . . and every few years they get overgrown and all need to be split.  So mom digs them out, but then has all these hostas to transplant and nowhere to put them.  So originally she tried giving them away for free on craigslist, but nobody would take her up on the offer.  So last year she tried charging 5$ each for them . . . and made about 200$ and sold them all.

People are so weird.

I should tell my mom to try this with surprise lilies. She's been trying to eliminate them from one spot in her front yard for 20 years. All that has happened is that she still has surprise lilies there, and also everywhere else, and she keeps leaving sacks of the bulbs on my porch because she can't get anyone to take them.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Treedream on May 03, 2023, 08:58:07 AM
haha, the butterfly bushes were a gift from my BFF's parents, in return of digging them out their garden. I didn't have a lot of money and a decent patch of empty land to put plants in. It was a good start of the garden.

No stealing bushes here :P
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on May 03, 2023, 01:44:46 PM
I dug up 2 butterfly bushes out of someone's garden, so I could take them for free and plant them in my own garden.

People do this sort of thing in our neighbourhood, but usually at night . . . and without permission.  :P
Mrs G came back from a run early one morning last year to find a couple snipping the last of about thirty roses off our rosebushes in order to make themselves a bouquet.  She was not very happy to say the least.

What did she do?  I'm hoping that it involved a 'THIS IS SPARTA' style kick into the thorniest parts of the bushes.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cassie on May 03, 2023, 04:05:48 PM
I live in a small condo, drive a small 15 year old car, don’t drink, use cloth potty pads for my 2 tiny dogs, only eat out once or twice a month, much of my entertainment is free such as walks and having my friends and family over for dinner and games.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: TomTX on May 03, 2023, 06:41:01 PM
We do a lot of home improvement, maintenance, and repairs ourselves.

We keep cars forever (14 yo and 9 yo with no plans for replacement any time soon).
I was gonna say "14 years is kinda getting old with all the safety improvements in cars these days..."

Then I realized both our cars are 2009 models....
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 03, 2023, 07:13:40 PM
We do a lot of home improvement, maintenance, and repairs ourselves.

We keep cars forever (14 yo and 9 yo with no plans for replacement any time soon).
I was gonna say "14 years is kinda getting old with all the safety improvements in cars these days..."

Then I realized both our cars are 2009 models....

Lol, in my mind the 90s are always "10 years ago"
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: ATtiny85 on May 04, 2023, 05:59:04 AM
This is sort of a difficult question, but a great one. I mean, we keep vehicles for 10+ years and some of those things, but that's only frugal compared to weird people who churn through vehicles every couple years. But a car in general is extravagant compared to a bunch of people.

But, I think I can answer the question with a simple one: I squeeze a lot of use out of my personal items, from razors to shoes to shirts to tools to electronics.

A more complex one would be: I am playing the long game and staying in shape, expecting to live a decently long life, but also hoping to maintain my $0 per year healthcare costs for at least another decade when I will be in my 60s. Oops, sorry, $5 a year copay for vision. Probably jinxing myself there...
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: LD_TAndK on May 04, 2023, 06:07:10 AM
I reuse pieces of dental floss until they fray. Usually four times
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: cupcakery on May 04, 2023, 06:27:47 AM
Here are a few:

1.  I read a lot, but read for free with the library.
2.  I don't drink alcohol, soda, etc. 
3.  We have a small house and do as much DIY as we can.
4.  I cook a lot and bring lunch from home.  I don't eat out often.
5.  State schools
6.  When I buy stuff I keep it until it wears out.
7.  When we travel we look for deals first, location second.
8.  I don't buy things we don't need and that aren't useful.
9.  We try to buy quality, so that we aren't wearing things out and having to replace them as often.
10.  I try not to use too many disposable items.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Captain Pierogi on May 04, 2023, 07:01:27 AM
I plan the heck out of meals in an effort to have near-zero food waste.  The little that we can't avoid ends up in the compost.  Better for the wallet and the environment.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 04, 2023, 07:02:40 AM
I plan the heck out of meals in an effort to have near-zero food waste.  The little that we can't avoid ends up in the compost.  Better for the wallet and the environment.

I lost an avocado a few years ago and I'm still a little upset about it. Lol
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 04, 2023, 08:40:09 AM
I plan the heck out of meals in an effort to have near-zero food waste.  The little that we can't avoid ends up in the compost.  Better for the wallet and the environment.

I lost an avocado a few years ago and I'm still a little upset about it. Lol

My library just brought in the book The Evelasting Meal: Leftovers A-Z by Tamar Adler , it is a funny and strange cookbook that I recommend for entertainment purposes even if you already are a boss with leftovers.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Josiecat22222 on May 04, 2023, 08:51:36 AM
I plan the heck out of meals in an effort to have near-zero food waste.  The little that we can't avoid ends up in the compost.  Better for the wallet and the environment.

I lost an avocado a few years ago and I'm still a little upset about it. Lol

I feel this so hard.  Yesterday I was at a friend's house who was lamenting that her bananas were brown and needed to be thrown away.  I nearly tripped over myself telling her to make banana bread or freeze them for smoothies.  Then she told me she just buys frozen fruit for smoothies......cue facepalm.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: jeninco on May 04, 2023, 09:02:03 AM
I plan the heck out of meals in an effort to have near-zero food waste.  The little that we can't avoid ends up in the compost.  Better for the wallet and the environment.

I lost an avocado a few years ago and I'm still a little upset about it. Lol

My library just brought in the book The Evelasting Meal: Leftovers A-Z by Tamar Adler , it is a funny and strange cookbook that I recommend for entertainment purposes even if you already are a boss with leftovers.

I love this book so much that I BOUGHT a copy and it lives with the frequently-used cookbooks. In fact, I just finished the last of the "Peruvian sweet potato salad" she discusses around page 47. (It was a little onion-y, to be honest.)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: MaybeBabyMustache on May 04, 2023, 09:47:30 AM
I haven't personally owned any tech (phone, laptop) since the late 90s, when I got my first cell phone. Since then, all tech is covered by work. I, am, however, FIREing soon, so just bought my own laptop, and need to find a phone (used).

We own an electric car, but have never paid for car charging. We have an office that provides it, so even during the COVID lockdowns & the two years we WFH, we dropped the car off overnight to charge, and biked home.

We've never paid interest on a credit card, which I suppose is standard in this group, but overall an outlier.

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: fuzzy math on May 04, 2023, 10:41:20 AM
I've made it known I accept hand me downs (phones, clothes etc) and have ended up with multiple free phones for my kids. Almost all of my clothes are free, either hand me downs from family or from the free store (where I take all my donations). Goodwill outlet is also my friend, clothing is about $1.50 /lb. If work or a community event is offering a free shirt, that becomes my new workout or sleep shirt. I'll also keep something beyond when others would get rid of it.

Purchasing discounted/ short dated foods, taking leftovers from work functions, dumpster diving and using the heck out of every single item in my kitchen / garden is also a biggie. I save condiment packets from restaurants. I'll eat super weird food combos too. Scraps go to our chickens.




Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: YttriumNitrate on May 04, 2023, 11:08:35 AM
The most frugal thing I do is live in housing far less expensive than I can afford. The number two thing would be driving far less expensive of a car than I can afford. I'd guess these are probably #1 and #2 for most people here.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 04, 2023, 11:11:45 AM
Upon reflection, I think the most frugal thing I do might be just letting shit be broken.

I have so many things that need a fix. The car door locks don't work right and require a work-around. The paint is peeling off of some Bondo on the front grille. The kitchen floor has been missing a bit of flooring for over a year. The screen door doesn't latch. The patio window is clouded over and needs replacing. Only one of my three interior doors actually closes properly (thankfully, it's the bathroom!). My TV's backlight is out; everything looks a bit bluer than it should. The living room bookshelf is missing bits of veneer. The deck steps are broken. I can't type the number 8 or the exclamation point on my laptop keyboard. The shed has a big hole in the wall. Half my windows don't open. All my trousers need to be taken in, and I'm just safety pinning them along the seam every morning.

Don't get me wrong; over time, all this stuff needs to be tended to and the overall trend is that things are moving forward. But if I fixed everything that needed fixing today, I'd be broke and in debt. Letting the small things ride until I have the time, money, and energy to address them (or can source free materials, or learn what I need to know to address them) is a big part of why I have an emergency fund at all.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: ChickenStash on May 04, 2023, 11:49:01 AM
The most frugal, for me, is probably my house - smallish and inexpensive, by modern standards. Lower property taxes for the area.

A close second is car purchases. While I do have some expensive habits in this area, I'm a buy-n-hold enthusiast so I only buy things I really like, maintain the heck out of them, then only get rid of them when they are no longer repairable.

Farther back is cutting the cord so no cable/sat subscriptions, very few streaming services, cheap cell phone plan, and buy-n-hold on the phone, itself. I also DIY just about everything I reasonably can on the house, cars, tech, etc. I'll draw the line at major structural work or things that would require machining, but anything else is fair game.

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: windytrail on May 04, 2023, 11:56:20 AM
1. Living in America car-free. Biking, walking, trains, and buses. We'll rent a car for the day every 1-2 months to get to the trailhead where no other options are available. With the average yearly cost of car ownership now exceeding $10,000, this is HUGE. It's also important to live your values and set an example for others.

2. Cooking most of our meals. In HCOL areas, it now costs $15-20 to get a lunch at a restaurant, while you can still bring a lunch for $3. For dinner, the Instant Pot has become a life saver: dry beans cooked in 1 hour; mason jar yogurt; broth made from veggie scraps; rice; etc. We've embraced Indian vegetarian cooking, which makes incredibly tasty meals using very cheap ingredients. I love fermenting veggies and making our own condiments such as mustard and hot sauce (happy to share recipes) which is 5-10x cheaper.

3. Home & body care: soap bars instead of liquid soap; cotton napkins instead of paper; cleaning with vinegar & baking soda; single-ply toilet paper. Tooth powder instead of paste. Making your own hand salve with beeswax, cocoa butter, & olive oil. Cutting your own hair.

4. Prioritizing your health now to avoid expensive medical treatment later on. Maintaining a healthy weight which means eating right, getting lots of exercise, and a full night's sleep. OTOH, my vice is probably too much alcohol, but don't yet feel any long-term effects from that...

For housing, we are still paying about $2400/mo to rent in a walkable area (super rare in the US) and live in an apartment with sufficient lighting & air circulation. As millennials, we weren't lucky enough to enter adulthood at a time when buying a home in the City was affordable. Our housing policy is broken, but we are organizing others in our community to change that.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: rockeTree on May 04, 2023, 12:06:11 PM
Very cheap house by the standards of our friends and colleagues. No makeup (not to be cheap, I just don't like it, but many people spend an amount that is shocking to be on the stuff). Very little travel (we like our small cheap house and enjoy spending time there).

I do a lot of little penny pinching things too, and spend some money a lot of y'all would not, but those are the ones people seem to find more out of step with norms.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: SpareChange on May 04, 2023, 12:22:11 PM
Nothing too outrageous for this group:). I have a bit of a minimalist streak, so that can help.

I live in a 500sqft studio apt. I got rid of my bed several years ago...it was taking up so much of that space. Like GuitarStv, I never really felt the "need" for a mattress, having spent many a year sleeping on the floor. I bought a Toggle couch from Coddle on cyber Mon...a nice futon. Ironically, the packing foam it came in is perfect for sleeping on, so I'll use it when relatives visit.

Car is an '07 Focus hatch. I do as much of the maintenance and repair as I think I can. No comp/collision.

Tech...a 50in TV powered by a several year old celeron chromebox. Still snappy. Use a Logitech wireless keyboard from the couch or the kitchen bar. And a Pixel 5a on Red Pocket's 10/mon plan.

Restaurants...rarely. No pets. Electricity for the year avg about 20/mon. High deductible health insurance plan at work. Use library when I can for books. Rarely buy clothes. Most consumer products just don't seem to be able to justify their existence to me. Those that can I will absolutely entertain buying.

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Captain Pierogi on May 04, 2023, 12:55:16 PM
I plan the heck out of meals in an effort to have near-zero food waste.  The little that we can't avoid ends up in the compost.  Better for the wallet and the environment.

I lost an avocado a few years ago and I'm still a little upset about it. Lol

My library just brought in the book The Evelasting Meal: Leftovers A-Z by Tamar Adler , it is a funny and strange cookbook that I recommend for entertainment purposes even if you already are a boss with leftovers.

I love this book so much that I BOUGHT a copy and it lives with the frequently-used cookbooks. In fact, I just finished the last of the "Peruvian sweet potato salad" she discusses around page 47. (It was a little onion-y, to be honest.)

Just got on the Hold list for this book at the library. Thanks!  I'd be willing to buy it if it's great, but I need to give it a test run.  My veggie garden is just starting to be productive for the season, and that's always a fun challenge when you have odd amounts.  Like one 4" fairytale eggplant or 10 early green beans.  Because heaven forbid I mix a veggie I grew with the same thing from the grocery store!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: ATtiny85 on May 04, 2023, 02:36:30 PM
Keeping the NK in DINK seems to qualify. Frugal for us now, good the world later.


Upon reflection, I think the most frugal thing I do might be just letting shit be broken.

I have so many things that need a fix. The car door locks don't work right and require a work-around.

Being super tolerant of work-arounds or broken features is a gift! Love it.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Gremlin on May 04, 2023, 05:17:08 PM

Upon reflection, I think the most frugal thing I do might be just letting shit be broken.

I have so many things that need a fix. The car door locks don't work right and require a work-around.

Being super tolerant of work-arounds or broken features is a gift! Love it.
Mrs G is like this... roughly half the time.

As in, "This broke today and I've built this crazy Rube-Goldberg machine so that we don't have to get it repaired.  If you're looking for the spare salt shaker, I've used it to get the washing machine going again" versus "This broke so I've immediately ordered a new part or (if it's beyond our capabilities) booked the expert to fix it later this week."

After twenty-something years of marriage I still don't understand what falls into each category and why.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 04, 2023, 08:26:05 PM
The most frugal thing I do is live in housing far less expensive than I can afford. The number two thing would be driving far less expensive of a car than I can afford. I'd guess these are probably #1 and #2 for most people here.
Holy crap! Our house is mortgage-free, but our property taxes are about $1050/month - gah!

We also drive old-ish cars. DH's is a 2002 with only 111k miles on it. Mine is the "new" car. It's a 2014 and has 77k miles. No plans to replace either.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: pdxvandal on May 04, 2023, 10:17:45 PM
Gotta be cars, a 2008 hatchback and 2009 mid-size SUV. The cars are worth way more to us than they would be to anyone else and would have very low resale value.

Probably going to splurge at some point, but hard to pull the trigger psychologically since the most expensive vehicle I bought was a Tacoma 2WD pickup for $12k in 2002, sold in 2005.

I also save ice cubes that may fall on the floor by putting them in plant pots or tossing them in my recirculating pond. I prefer that over the kitchen sink.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: nancy33 on May 04, 2023, 11:16:05 PM
Reading through these posts and I would like to know 1. The secret to growing large amounts of raspberries 2. How to make my neighborhood freecycle friendly 3. Can I do the no shampoo method if I swim 4 days a week? Would it work to just rinse my hair in the shower after swimming?
Some of my frugal habits include always checking free piles, learning to identify edible plants and finding out which “weeds” are actually edible and letting them grow in my yard or planting them so I have lots of greens. As a rule of thumb everything I plant is edible. I attend free art classes at the senior center, i shower at the city pool 4 days a week after swimming, I attend free birdwalks for entertainment.  I make my own yogurt and eat a lot of soups. At restaurants I usually order soup and a water to drink. I make my own tea from herbs I grow. This year I started all of my own vegetable plants from seed. I only grow heirloom so I can collect the seed for next year.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Josiecat22222 on May 05, 2023, 05:16:30 AM
I don't think the things I do are going to raise any eyebrows on this board, but here goes:

-downsized our home by half

-eat only vegetarian, always eat my leftovers, seldom throw away food and always compost scraps

-reuse ziploc bags, bread bags any produce bags etc until no longer usable

-do not run HVAC until it is unbearable-- leave windows open and go outside during heat of day to minimize use of central air

-DH and I share car, batch errands to use as little as possible

-line dry clothes, no dryer

-have a well stocked pantry and faculty with cooking, so can make meals from seemingly nothing and am not hostage to any one ingredient-- can substitute to make recipes work

-do yoga/pilates/HIIT workouts by following YouTube videos, no joining a gym or studio

-I'm sure there are others, but these seem to do be the majority of things that influence our budget
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 05, 2023, 11:31:48 AM
I plan the heck out of meals in an effort to have near-zero food waste.  The little that we can't avoid ends up in the compost.  Better for the wallet and the environment.

I lost an avocado a few years ago and I'm still a little upset about it. Lol

My library just brought in the book The Evelasting Meal: Leftovers A-Z by Tamar Adler , it is a funny and strange cookbook that I recommend for entertainment purposes even if you already are a boss with leftovers.

I love this book so much that I BOUGHT a copy and it lives with the frequently-used cookbooks. In fact, I just finished the last of the "Peruvian sweet potato salad" she discusses around page 47. (It was a little onion-y, to be honest.)

Last night, I made her asparagus 'soup' with the bottom pieces that you crack off the asparagus. Mindblown. I'm drinking it more as a fortified cold tea but this made me very (frugally) happy.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: StarBright on May 06, 2023, 10:22:53 AM
I have found my frugal strategies definitely change with seasons of my life. For instance, I used to be a champ thrift store shopper - now I can't find time to go to a thrift store and sort through things. That would be a real luxury for me.

I also don't have time to shop several stores for the best deals but I manage to keep my grocery spending remarkably low for a family of 4 (not APowers low, but pretty low). 

The biggest change in the last few years has been twofold:

These two things have kept my grocery spending between 4-600 a month for the last several years.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: FINate on May 06, 2023, 04:45:51 PM
We save the most by driving very little. The gas savings are nice, but the main savings come from low wear and tear on our vehicles. They are 12 and 14 years old and have 100k or fewer miles on the odo.

Also, keeping in mind that frugal != cheap, we save a ton buying 1/4 cow and 1/2 pig from a local rancher, which lasts about a year for our family of 4. There's a ton of BLM grassland in southern Idaho and eastern Oregon for grazing, and the way they rotate the herds is good for the soil and native grasses. Grass fed pastured raised beef is leaner and higher in omega-3, and I prefer the taste over grain fed. The pigs are also pasture raised, free range with lots of rooting for grubs and whatnot, though their diet is supplemented with grain. Buying same quality of meat in the grocery store would be a lot more expensive, and I like that we have a relationship with the rancher and that the animals are raised and butchered within a 50 mile radius via a small operation.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Duke03 on May 06, 2023, 07:21:41 PM
I travel nonstop for work.  Think 1–3-day trips 8-10 times a month.  For the past 5 years I've made it a habit to bring all my own food.  When I cook at home, I just make extra protein and then vacuum seal and freeze.  When it's time to go to work I always have a great variety and then I just need to make a fresh vegetable.  The hotels I stay at always have a free breakfast and some even have a free light dinner depending on what day of the week it is.  So far this year I've only spent $12.87 on food while out of town.  During this time, I've pocketed thousands in per diem as it's automatically added to my paycheck, and I don't have to show any receipts!!  Of course, coworker's think I'm weird but I don't care.  It saves me thousands of dollars and is much healthier than eating at restaurants 6 days a week...
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: seemsright on May 07, 2023, 09:32:58 AM
I have found my frugal strategies definitely change with seasons of my life. For instance, I used to be a champ thrift store shopper - now I can't find time to go to a thrift store and sort through things. That would be a real luxury for me.

I also don't have time to shop several stores for the best deals but I manage to keep my grocery spending remarkably low for a family of 4 (not APowers low, but pretty low). 

The biggest change in the last few years has been twofold:
  • We purchased a small chest freezer. It was around $70 new at Costco in in 2019. And we used our $20 of Annual Costco Cash for it so paid $50.
  • We basically stop at two places for food. Once a year we buy part of a cow and part of a pig and that is 75% of the meat we eat. Otherwise I use online ordering and pick up at our Kroger. While Kroger is more expensive than Aldi, they almost always have everything I need. And online ordering lets me see the bill tallying up as I add to it over the course of the week. When I go to check out, it shows me my total, and almost every week I end up removing a few items from my cart because I don't really need them.

These two things have kept my grocery spending between 4-600 a month for the last several years.

My preteen thinks thrifting is the coolest thing on earth. We went yesterday, and found amazing things. I found a 100% wool shawl and entire summer wardrobe for myself for about $50 and DD found a unicorn onesie that she lives in...this one is cool mom. And DH found a graphing calculator for $5. The time suck was there...it took 3 hours. I am using it as time with the preteen that is cheap and she loves it. I plan on taking her a lot this summer and she can thrift her entire High School clothing needs.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: ATtiny85 on May 08, 2023, 07:49:17 AM
I travel nonstop for work.  Think 1–3-day trips 8-10 times a month.  For the past 5 years I've made it a habit to bring all my own food.  When I cook at home, I just make extra protein and then vacuum seal and freeze.  When it's time to go to work I always have a great variety and then I just need to make a fresh vegetable.  The hotels I stay at always have a free breakfast and some even have a free light dinner depending on what day of the week it is.  So far this year I've only spent $12.87 on food while out of town.  During this time, I've pocketed thousands in per diem as it's automatically added to my paycheck, and I don't have to show any receipts!!  Of course, coworker's think I'm weird but I don't care.  It saves me thousands of dollars and is much healthier than eating at restaurants 6 days a week...

Nicely done. I used to work for a company that did per diem, I pocketed several hundred bucks each year. It was all international travel, so not as easy to take my own food, but I could still things cheap. The last 13 years has been the more typical US system of reimbursement. Not a lot I can do within the rules now.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Gerard on May 08, 2023, 09:25:45 AM
Is "not buying anything" too vague?

I/we generally don't buy/own a house (instead, cheap rent apartment in good neighbourhood), car (bike/transit), resto food (cook at home), beef (pork/chicken/veg), soap and shampoo (big Muji brush), expensive clothes (thrift stores, costco), posh groceries (No Frills, Chinatown), haircuts (DIY), financial advisors (DIY, Questrade), books and recorded music (library), expensive plane tix (discount airlines, aeroplan points, train and bus) and hotel rooms (airbnb, points), new musical equipment (Kijiji), or cosmetics (DIY, do without, need less once you stop drenching yourself with soaps and shampoos!).

We do sometimes make up for this with lots of trips and the occasional holy crap expensive meal and drinks out...
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Leseratte on May 08, 2023, 05:49:31 PM
Tech Dumpster Diving:

Our Local Waste Disposal Site has a container just for electronics. My husband always takes a look and usually finds some cables, but sometimes he gets very excited: today he found 2 perfectly good cellphones (app. from the same person acc. to the not deleted pictures). The other time a macbook, where he just replaced the harddrive for 50 CAD....
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: srrb on May 09, 2023, 01:07:25 AM
Tech Dumpster Diving:

Our Local Waste Disposal Site has a container just for electronics. My husband always takes a look and usually finds some cables, but sometimes he gets very excited: today he found 2 perfectly good cellphones (app. from the same person acc. to the not deleted pictures). The other time a macbook, where he just replaced the harddrive for 50 CAD....
Or my favourite, Ereaders that still have books on them. Best find had 7/8 Game of Throne series.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: parkerk on May 09, 2023, 01:19:56 PM
As a household, definitely driving an old car and doing our own maintenance on it. Mr. K's dad was a mechanic so he learned a ton and can do just about anything that doesn't require a full-on hoist or expensive specialized equipment. I'll admit this is mostly Mr. K's thing as he's the one doing 90% of the actual work. My contribution to the process has been to be happy with driving an older car and learn the requisite day-to-day maintenance tasks that keep the car running well.

For me personally it's been learning to do our own haircuts. There were a couple dicey ones during the beginning of the pandemic but a few youtube tutorials got me straightened out and now we haven't spent any money at a salon in years.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: EliteZags on May 09, 2023, 05:11:19 PM
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events   
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: bmjohnson35 on May 09, 2023, 07:16:07 PM

We turn on our electric hot water heater on/off every day for about 30 minutes prior to our evening showers. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: eyesonthehorizon on May 09, 2023, 10:42:03 PM
Unusual:
Drive a minimum & walk for many local errands
Keep cars, electronics, etc. until they’re unsalvageable

Eat from scratch, don’t buy ready-to-eat foods

Eat out or get delivery maybe twice a year
Little alcohol, all at home
Good tea rebrews well
Lots of legumes, root vegetables, rice, & bread from scratch
Compost organic material & brown/ carton paper
Kitchen towels & reusable lids instead of paper towels or plastic wrap

Media (books, movies, video games) comes almost exclusively from the library or one streaming service at a time

Travel is rare (once every few years)
Work out at home
Optimize daylight, burn one bulb at a time
Line-dry all laundry
Never go looking for things to buy
Choose the longest-lasting options
Gifts within the family are simple, inexpensive pleasures, usually food
Makeup rarely used; DIY haircuts

Really out there: 

If opening the fridge, habitually ask the other half if they need anything, to minimize power draw
Who needs a bedframe?
Hydrated people can flush less often
Treat the thermostat as a safety device for pipes & people instead of a comfort generator
Hypermiling, when driving at all
Buy minimal furniture, secondhand, or collect from the curb or friends
Reuse unavoidable plastic packaging to wrap organic material that can’t be composted (cat leavings), to contain smells & cut frequency of trash take-outs (wasting plastic trash bags, collection truck gas)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: SuseB on May 10, 2023, 02:26:29 AM
Big ticket money savers for us:

- cars. Two older cars, one big efficient diesel (45mpg) for transporting the whole family (we have three DC), and one 8yr old Leaf for DH commute, though he WFH as much as possible. Saved £1000 on fuel per year when we bought it, reducing spend by two-thirds. But biggest thing with cars is paying for them - we pay for them on credit card and then balance transfer regularly for 0% interest payments. Paid off the diesel years ago, Leaf will be done next year. Not paid a penny in interest so never needed to get any money out of savings/investments to spend on cars.

- firewood. Had a log burner installed in 2017. Have a fire nearly every day in winter (Nov-March). Never paid a penny for wood, we have processed a couple of our own trees that we had to remove on advice of a tree surgeon. Literally logged and bagged the entire tree down to the finest of kindling branches. We get the DC involved in family projects like this! Recently got a load of untreated scrap timber from a house next door that is being rebuilt from the ground up - DH has cut it to size and it is enough for about 3 years supply of firewood. We still have logs from a tree to process too. This keeps down our spend on gas for the central heating, especially in the cooler but not cold months.

- laundry. Have never owned a tumble drier, line dry wherever possible and if not, have a dehumidifier running in our small utility room that has racking to hang washing. Reusable everything - dish cloths, rags, nappies (though those days are thankfully over and the nappies are now rags!), san pro, facial wipes instead of cotton wool, flannels, etc. Super efficient washing machine that runs on cheap rate electricity overnight and only wash at 30 degrees.

- DIY. DH is an engineer and immensely practical. So he fixes plumbing, electrics, wonky furniture, rebuilt our garden trellis, built the compost bins, put up wallpaper, installs shelving - all that sort of stuff. I am good at paint colours, fabrics, sewing, repairs, thrifting furniture etc. Between us we fix just about everything. Memorably we have done things like re-sew the padding around our kids' trampoline using fishing line and the sewing machine, and edge leftover carpet to use as runners. DH also installed a new pump in our 11 year old dishwasher three years ago and it is still going strong. We very rarely need to get people in to do stuff. He's also a tech whizz and can repair laptops/phones etc - my laptop died so he bought a non-working one the same for peanuts on eBay and cannibalised the parts to get mine working again!

- food and cooking/gardening. I pack lunch for all the DC and DH if he is in the office. Never any leftovers and our backyard chickens get any scraps that are too good for the compost bin, in return for eggs. I make yogurt, sourdough etc. Rarely buy processed food. Make jam, chutney etc in season using produce from the garden. Grow my own flowers and veg from seed - total outlay on the garden in the last year has been for three sacks of potting compost for raising seedlings. For the rest I use our own garden compost.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 10, 2023, 08:28:00 AM
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: RetiredAt63 on May 10, 2023, 09:17:21 AM
The most frugal thing I do is not look at ads*.  Ads are designed to make me want to spend my money on things I don't really want/need.  Without seeing ads my wants/needs list is very small, and determined by me, not people who want my money.

* The easy part of this is that I don't watch TV.  I'm also very fast at pressing the "skip ads" button on my tablet.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: StarBright on May 10, 2023, 09:18:47 AM
Unusual:
Drive a minimum & walk for many local errands
Keep cars, electronics, etc. until they’re unsalvageable

Eat from scratch, don’t buy ready-to-eat foods

Eat out or get delivery maybe twice a year
Little alcohol, all at home
Good tea rebrews well
Lots of legumes, root vegetables, rice, & bread from scratch
Compost organic material & brown/ carton paper
Kitchen towels & reusable lids instead of paper towels or plastic wrap

Media (books, movies, video games) comes almost exclusively from the library or one streaming service at a time

Travel is rare (once every few years)
Work out at home
Optimize daylight, burn one bulb at a time
Line-dry all laundry
Never go looking for things to buy
Choose the longest-lasting options
Gifts within the family are simple, inexpensive pleasures, usually food
Makeup rarely used; DIY haircuts

Really out there: 

If opening the fridge, habitually ask the other half if they need anything, to minimize power draw
Who needs a bedframe?
Hydrated people can flush less often
Treat the thermostat as a safety device for pipes & people instead of a comfort generator
Hypermiling, when driving at all
Buy minimal furniture, secondhand, or collect from the curb or friends
Reuse unavoidable plastic packaging to wrap organic material that can’t be composted (cat leavings), to contain smells & cut frequency of trash take-outs (wasting plastic trash bags, collection truck gas)

We do almost all the same things on your unusual list, and honestly, we've gotten so used to them that I didn't think of most of them when I was thinking about being frugal! They are just part of my day.

Re: Re-using tea. Certain herbal tisanes go forever! Mint is totally resteepable, fruit flavors are generally only good for a single cup. I get three to four cups out of a single mint tea bag in the winter.  (I figured I should share that if the goal of this thread is  to present people with new info they might not have thought of :) )

Other than your lack of flushing and your creative use of non recyclable plastic (which I don't find weird, just had never thought of it!), I don't find your "out there" list too out there either! I mean, we have a bedframe, but I agree that you don't really need one :)

I will say that we are planning a big trip right now, and every time we look up prices for something we kind of freak out because it seems SO expensive and that is because we just don't spend money generally. So that has been a kind of a bummer as we plan. We just hadn't realized how expensive activities have gotten (especially touristy ones).
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: EliteZags on May 10, 2023, 12:21:13 PM
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.

fine I wash and re-use my toilet paper, happy?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on May 10, 2023, 12:23:26 PM
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.

fine I wash and re-use my toilet paper, happy?

Not unless you're using grey water to do the washing.  We have standards around here.  Or used to.

:P
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Just Joe on May 10, 2023, 02:00:27 PM
Posting before I've read the whole thread but... we stay home alot. We have a nice home, not fancy - but comfortable, with acres to enjoy. After dealing with the world all day it is nice to just be home. Or be home and invite over a friend or two for a meal and visit.

We keep our things forever. Car develops an issue? We repair it. Ourselves. We don't replace it. Frankly driving a 20+ year old car is dirt cheap if a person doesn't do alot of miles. The key is to learn to make a proper repair and not rely on duct tape and bailing wire b/c that will fail again and again. Repeat problems are not fun. Also, build a lifestyle that doesn't require alot of daily miles.

Purchasing durable things is a little like compound interest. Money spent once for a thing that lasts decades (sometimes lifetime?) rather than chucking the thing in the garbage every time there is a hiccup and purchasing a new thing. I'm the family tech nerd. It is amazing how many people (relatives) just throw something away without a thought and spend $XXX for another one. The recent episode that comes to mind is the relative that tossed something electronic b/c the batteries were low. Yes, that is why the screen was hard to read. It needed new batteries.

We also buy durable used things. Someone bought the best of a brand, didn't use it much and then later sold it for pennies on the dollar. What a find for the next person like you and me. The deluxe version of something, perfectly usable and with decades of life left in it. I've done it with cars, lawn tractors, furniture, clothing, shoes even, cameras, and other gadgets. We have a shoe outlet that sells returns and barely used shoes. Bought a pair of work boots for $40 that originally cost $160. They had zero wear inside or out.

We avoid advertising. Stream TV, stream music, purchase media we know we'll consume multiple times, etc. Helps us stay out of the stores. Helps us remain confident that our things are just fine despite not being the new version of 2% better than the old one at an 18% price increase.

We like to go out occasionally but we really like to stay home and cook too. FAR cheaper to spend dollars for a meal at home vs $12+ per person for sandwiches and almost $3 for a fountain drink. Helps keep a night out seem more special when we do go out.

Slow and steady for the win folks!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Freedomin5 on May 10, 2023, 03:38:10 PM
Just thought of another frugal thing we do.

We try to be content with what we have. If I find myself comparing to my friends, I remind myself that we already have more than enough. We don’t need yet another vacation to a cool new destination, we don’t need this $300 “experience”, we don’t need a car. We don’t need to buy a tv or make our home any cuter with decor and furniture. We try our best not to compare ourselves to others.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on May 10, 2023, 03:54:36 PM
I own a semi-luxury car (2016 Jaguar XJ) purchased used for well below value cash(depreciated model and appears worth >double what I paid) and have put on <5K miles the past year (currently at 45K) despite working ~20miles away

able to accomplish this due to friend that moved out of state years ago and left an old 2012 Elantra in storage which I've been using for most wkdays commute and just covering all service/maintenance expenses in return, this allows me to save on gas(better mileage+lower grade req), much cheaper maintenance/repairs(and no need for loaner/rentals during), and preserve mileage on my car which also reduces insurance premium
as result haven't needed any maintenance costs on the Jag yet aside from an oil change, also helps keeps me humble during the wk as I put off completely contrasting perceptions in the 2 cars, while realistically I'm closer to somewhere in between the two (<7 figure nw, for at least another year or 2)

mainly just drive the Jag weekends and usually ~once a wk for work events
If this is the most frugal thing you do, it's totally deserving of a facepunch.

Yeah, I had a bit of a chuckle when Jaguar ownership is mentioned in a thread on frugal choices.  "I hardly drive my Jag" doesn't seem like it meets the definition of frugal, and while it's nice that it's worth more than they paid, that only counts if and when they sell it and realize the gain. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cassie on May 10, 2023, 03:58:22 PM
Oh! I thought of more food related things:

One of our favourite "restaurants" is actually a Hari Krishna temple down the street. You make a small donation, usually $5 (hasn't changed in 20+ years since I've been going there), and they serve you a really delicious vegetarian meal.

This is usually the place I bring people I want to test out becoming friends with. It's sets the tone for what hanging out with me is like and gives me a read on them.





This seems odd to me for many reasons. What if your friends are fussy eaters and don’t like vegetables? What if they don’t think that people that can afford to eat elsewhere should be taking a cheap meal that could go to someone that really needs it?  Why would you feel the need to test out potential new friends? 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 10, 2023, 04:12:16 PM
Just thought of another frugal thing we do.

We try to be content with what we have. If I find myself comparing to my friends, I remind myself that we already have more than enough. We don’t need yet another vacation to a cool new destination, we don’t need this $300 “experience”, we don’t need a car. We don’t need to buy a tv or make our home any cuter with decor and furniture. We try our best not to compare ourselves to others.

@Freedomin5 I love this. Comparison--thief of joy and all that :)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 10, 2023, 07:27:44 PM
Oh! I thought of more food related things:

One of our favourite "restaurants" is actually a Hari Krishna temple down the street. You make a small donation, usually $5 (hasn't changed in 20+ years since I've been going there), and they serve you a really delicious vegetarian meal.

This is usually the place I bring people I want to test out becoming friends with. It's sets the tone for what hanging out with me is like and gives me a read on them.




This seems odd to me for many reasons. What if your friends are fussy eaters and don’t like vegetables? What if they don’t think that people that can afford to eat elsewhere should be taking a cheap meal that could go to someone that really needs it?  Why would you feel the need to test out potential new friends?

Well, it's not a food service for people who need it, it's a very popular place and all sorts of people go there. It's just a funky, cool experience.

I'm a former vegetarian chef, if someone is a fussy eater who doesn't like vegetables, they're not going to be a friend that I go out for meals with. Period. They might be some other kind of friend, but they won't be a meals friend.

Trust me, this has been a great litmus test for getting a read on how uptight potential friends are. Barring neurodivergence reasons, if someone gets all weird about taking their shoes off at a Hari Krishna temple where we can get some really amazing vegetarian food, that person is not likely to enjoy hanging out with me regularly.

FTR, I have friends with bland food tastes who only like chain restaurants. We do *not* dine out together. If someone can't handle a vegetarian curry, there's no way they'll have the stomach for the kind of food I go out for.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: aj1879 on May 10, 2023, 11:05:37 PM
Big ticket money savers for us:

- cars. Two older cars, one big efficient diesel (45mpg) for transporting the whole family (we have three DC), and one 8yr old Leaf for DH commute, though he WFH as much as possible. Saved £1000 on fuel per year when we bought it, reducing spend by two-thirds. But biggest thing with cars is paying for them - we pay for them on credit card and then balance transfer regularly for 0% interest payments. Paid off the diesel years ago, Leaf will be done next year. Not paid a penny in interest so never needed to get any money out of savings/investments to spend on cars.

- firewood. Had a log burner installed in 2017. Have a fire nearly every day in winter (Nov-March). Never paid a penny for wood, we have processed a couple of our own trees that we had to remove on advice of a tree surgeon. Literally logged and bagged the entire tree down to the finest of kindling branches. We get the DC involved in family projects like this! Recently got a load of untreated scrap timber from a house next door that is being rebuilt from the ground up - DH has cut it to size and it is enough for about 3 years supply of firewood. We still have logs from a tree to process too. This keeps down our spend on gas for the central heating, especially in the cooler but not cold months.

- laundry. Have never owned a tumble drier, line dry wherever possible and if not, have a dehumidifier running in our small utility room that has racking to hang washing. Reusable everything - dish cloths, rags, nappies (though those days are thankfully over and the nappies are now rags!), san pro, facial wipes instead of cotton wool, flannels, etc. Super efficient washing machine that runs on cheap rate electricity overnight and only wash at 30 degrees.

- DIY. DH is an engineer and immensely practical. So he fixes plumbing, electrics, wonky furniture, rebuilt our garden trellis, built the compost bins, put up wallpaper, installs shelving - all that sort of stuff. I am good at paint colours, fabrics, sewing, repairs, thrifting furniture etc. Between us we fix just about everything. Memorably we have done things like re-sew the padding around our kids' trampoline using fishing line and the sewing machine, and edge leftover carpet to use as runners. DH also installed a new pump in our 11 year old dishwasher three years ago and it is still going strong. We very rarely need to get people in to do stuff. He's also a tech whizz and can repair laptops/phones etc - my laptop died so he bought a non-working one the same for peanuts on eBay and cannibalised the parts to get mine working again!

- food and cooking/gardening. I pack lunch for all the DC and DH if he is in the office. Never any leftovers and our backyard chickens get any scraps that are too good for the compost bin, in return for eggs. I make yogurt, sourdough etc. Rarely buy processed food. Make jam, chutney etc in season using produce from the garden. Grow my own flowers and veg from seed - total outlay on the garden in the last year has been for three sacks of potting compost for raising seedlings. For the rest I use our own garden compost.

Love this !
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: DeniseNJ on May 11, 2023, 05:49:29 AM
I don't like to buy "stuff," drive an old car, and opted to work from home.  These are not unusual. I also DIY most things around the house, and am more likely to fix something or do it myself, like install a new clothes dryer or ceiling fan, than to ever hire someone to do it. Also probably common for us folks.

I think my most frugal thing though is DIY skin care.  I do at home mironeedling (dermaroller) and TCA acid peels (from Platinum Skincare). I also do LED lights (Omnilux), microcurrent (NuFace), radio frequency (Nebulyft), and laser therapy (Nira) at home.  These devices weren't cheap but way way way cheaper than doing to a derm or spa.  I also just got a plasma fibroblast pen (Snow Skin) I'm trying on my hands first--it hurts a lot.

I guess it would be cheaper to do nothing but still. I get my devices on sale only and with discount codes. I also cut and color my own hair, but mostly because I never get a great haircut otherwise.

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Gerard on May 11, 2023, 07:10:32 AM
I guess it would be cheaper to do nothing

This is my strategy. :-)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 11, 2023, 08:03:50 AM
I don't like to buy "stuff," drive an old car, and opted to work from home.  These are not unusual. I also DIY most things around the house, and am more likely to fix something or do it myself, like install a new clothes dryer or ceiling fan, than to ever hire someone to do it. Also probably common for us folks.

I think my most frugal thing though is DIY skin care.  I do at home mironeedling (dermaroller) and TCA acid peels (from Platinum Skincare). I also do LED lights (Omnilux), microcurrent (NuFace), radio frequency (Nebulyft), and laser therapy (Nira) at home.  These devices weren't cheap but way way way cheaper than doing to a derm or spa.  I also just got a plasma fibroblast pen (Snow Skin) I'm trying on my hands first--it hurts a lot.

I guess it would be cheaper to do nothing but still. I get my devices on sale only and with discount codes. I also cut and color my own hair, but mostly because I never get a great haircut otherwise.
What do those things do?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cassie on May 11, 2023, 11:33:39 AM
Oh! I thought of more food related things:

One of our favourite "restaurants" is actually a Hari Krishna temple down the street. You make a small donation, usually $5 (hasn't changed in 20+ years since I've been going there), and they serve you a really delicious vegetarian meal.

This is usually the place I bring people I want to test out becoming friends with. It's sets the tone for what hanging out with me is like and gives me a read on them.




This seems odd to me for many reasons. What if your friends are fussy eaters and don’t like vegetables? What if they don’t think that people that can afford to eat elsewhere should be taking a cheap meal that could go to someone that really needs it?  Why would you feel the need to test out potential new friends?

Well, it's not a food service for people who need it, it's a very popular place and all sorts of people go there. It's just a funky, cool experience.

I'm a former vegetarian chef, if someone is a fussy eater who doesn't like vegetables, they're not going to be a friend that I go out for meals with. Period. They might be some other kind of friend, but they won't be a meals friend.

Trust me, this has been a great litmus test for getting a read on how uptight potential friends are. Barring neurodivergence reasons, if someone gets all weird about taking their shoes off at a Hari Krishna temple where we can get some really amazing vegetarian food, that person is not likely to enjoy hanging out with me regularly.

FTR, I have friends with bland food tastes who only like chain restaurants. We do *not* dine out together. If someone can't handle a vegetarian curry, there's no way they'll have the stomach for the kind of food I go out for.

That’s an interesting perspective but I don’t base my friendships on food preferences in any manner. When I go out to eat with friends even if people have allergies, are picky, vegetarian, etc we can find a place where everyone can enjoy the meal. The most important thing to me is the friendship. If I really have a desire for a certain restaurant I can go alone or with someone that likes to eat there. I also know what my friends like, are allergic to, etc and base my menu on that when having people over for dinner.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 11, 2023, 12:18:18 PM

That’s an interesting perspective but I don’t base my friendships on food preferences in any manner. When I go out to eat with friends even if people have allergies, are picky, vegetarian, etc we can find a place where everyone can enjoy the meal. The most important thing to me is the friendship. If I really have a desire for a certain restaurant I can go alone or with someone that likes to eat there. I also know what my friends like, are allergic to, etc and base my menu on that when having people over for dinner.

Okay...but the post you quoted even says that I have plenty of friends whose taste in food I find awful, I just don't go to restaurants with them.

I've stayed for years here that I don't generally go to restaurants with people as a way of socializing. So why would I go to shitty restaurants with people just to socialize with them.

That would be like someone who doesn't generally take dance classes feeling the need to go to terrible dance classes with people just to be friends with them. It makes no sense.

I know that most people socialize by going out to dinners, but it's not my thing. So I'm not missing out on any connection with folks by not being willing to go with them to craptastic chain restaurants.

That aside, yes, I absolutely litmus test potential friends. I'm an acquired taste and because I don't socialize like most people do, I need to know if the person is going to respond well to my way of socializing.

If someone is stuck in their pub nights and dinners out as their primary way of socializing, then we're just not compatible as friends. That's fine. No one is obliged to be my friend. I'm also not obliged to be theirs.

I need friends who are cool with doing unusual shit out of nowhere. I select for the kind of people I can call and say "hey, wanna come with me to Montreal and commit fairly significant crimes?"

If they're not the kind of person who enjoys the opener "okay, I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out." Then they're not going to enjoy my friendship.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cassie on May 11, 2023, 02:08:45 PM
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 11, 2023, 02:29:33 PM
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.

And you seem weirdly keen on judging me for it, or at least that's the way it's coming off.

I'm very picky about who I become friends with. I make no apologies for that. It's worked well for me, I have fantastic friends and very emotionally generous friendships.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: draco44 on May 11, 2023, 04:37:11 PM
My library just brought in the book The Evelasting Meal: Leftovers A-Z by Tamar Adler , it is a funny and strange cookbook that I recommend for entertainment purposes even if you already are a boss with leftovers.

I love this book so much that I BOUGHT a copy and it lives with the frequently-used cookbooks. In fact, I just finished the last of the "Peruvian sweet potato salad" she discusses around page 47. (It was a little onion-y, to be honest.)

I'll have to keep an eye out for this book. One of my frugal talents is designing meals based around interesting scraps of ingredients left in my fridge.

I use basic hand sewing skills to mend my stuff, especially darning my expensive hiking socks.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: eyesonthehorizon on May 11, 2023, 10:14:42 PM
We do almost all the same things on your unusual list, and honestly, we've gotten so used to them that I didn't think of most of them when I was thinking about being frugal! They are just part of my day.

Re: Re-using tea. Certain herbal tisanes go forever! Mint is totally resteepable, fruit flavors are generally only good for a single cup. I get three to four cups out of a single mint tea bag in the winter.  (I figured I should share that if the goal of this thread is  to present people with new info they might not have thought of :) ) ...

I had to think about it & reflect on what others have commented on (not the deferred flushing, that’s only ever when there are no guests to startle - but if you’re going every couple hours or more... such as while consuming a pot or two of tea after summer yardwork... times two people, what’s the harm in doubling up?) People have definitely witnessed me reuse tea for days. I mostly use loose teas but the good ones resteep half a dozen times. Herbal tisanes much the same, especially bush teas like rooibos. As they get weaker they’re a bit nicer iced than hot, though, great for spring & fall when the mornings are chill but the afternoons swelter.

...No house (rent when not travelling), no computer, laptop, tablet or internet just a cheap pay-as-you-go Tracfone. ...

Sometimes when I read mention of your incredible data discipline I am reminded of the Augustine quote: “Lord grant me chastity & continence, only not yet.” It’s really impressive to withstand the tide of online living. I wonder what effect RE would have on my usage.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cassie on May 11, 2023, 11:51:40 PM
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.

And you seem weirdly keen on judging me for it, or at least that's the way it's coming off.

I'm very picky about who I become friends with. I make no apologies for that. It's worked well for me, I have fantastic friends and very emotionally generous friendships.

I am totally not judging you for not eating out much. It’s unhealthy and restaurant food is full of salt, excess calories, etc.  My chiropractor told me today in fact that he hasn’t eaten out in 5 years because of how unhealthy it is. I just didn’t understand how the eating out related to friendships, etc so I asked and you explained.  I found it odd but an interesting way to approach things. If we were all the same life would be boring:)).
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: AMandM on May 12, 2023, 06:43:27 AM
no computer, laptop, tablet or internet just a cheap pay-as-you-go Tracfone.

I feel oddly flattered to be a member of a forum that earns your obviously very limited internet time!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 12, 2023, 07:07:02 AM
I don’t go out to eat much either probably just once or twice a month. My friends and I get together at one another’s houses for dinner and games or just to visit. We take walks together and sometimes go to garage sales or thrift stores. I am open to new experiences as well depending on what it is. I don’t litmus test people I meet. Rather we spend some time together and either we enjoy each other’s company or we don’t. You have an unusual way of approaching things.

And you seem weirdly keen on judging me for it, or at least that's the way it's coming off.

I'm very picky about who I become friends with. I make no apologies for that. It's worked well for me, I have fantastic friends and very emotionally generous friendships.


I am totally not judging you for not eating out much. It’s unhealthy and restaurant food is full of salt, excess calories, etc.  My chiropractor told me today in fact that he hasn’t eaten out in 5 years because of how unhealthy it is. I just didn’t understand how the eating out related to friendships, etc so I asked and you explained.  I found it odd but an interesting way to approach things. If we were all the same life would be boring:)).

Ah. Gotcha, tone sometimes is difficult to parse online.

Yes, I have an unusual way of approaching most things, but that's because I figure out what works for *me*.

A little context might help. I'm very well connected professionally and people are constantly trying to get close to me and be my "friend." But hanging out with me professionally is an extremely different experience than socializing with me in my personal life.

If someone is used to socializing with me at galas, private clubs, high end restaurants, all with open bars and expense accounts, they're going to be in for a shock when they see that my personal life is radically different.

So taking someone I'm considering being real friends with to a funky Hari Krishna temple and seeing how they react to that is a really low stakes intro to just how different things are with me outside of the professional context.

It's much gentler than dumping then straight into the ice cold water of asking if they want to be a body paint model at a rap concert, lol.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: eyesonthehorizon on May 12, 2023, 08:46:49 AM
...If someone is used to socializing with me at galas, private clubs, high end restaurants, all with open bars and expense accounts, they're going to be in for a shock when they see that my personal life is radically different. ...

The food was great, but I do not miss this part of pre-covid socializing. People who liked my very performative persona from the in-person era at work (that is, when I was capable of being overheard by clients) are not seeing what they will get elsewhere.

It feels like unkind false advertising towards the nice ones, who decide I must be the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing their mothers all warned them about, & also attracts a lot of not-so-nice ones I don't want any attention from at all. Money's a part of it, since "class" still has a double meaning in that slice of society much more than they like to admit, but it's more about the heavily gendered emotional labor I'm not willing to do without actually being paid for it.

On the other hand the friend who drags me out to something I never would have tried on my own is generally worth their weight in gold. I'm very expressive, so based on past remarks apparently it's usually humorous.

Spoiler: show
One served me fried eyeballs. I got the laugh back in kind when I maintained a direct gaze & ate another one.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Omy on May 12, 2023, 09:03:17 AM
Interesting. When I think back on my most interesting memories and bonding experiences, they're usually challenging and often frugal. Random social dinners and charity galas are pretty forgettable and rarely leave me feeling closer to the people in attendance. Helping to build a house for a charity was memorable and promoted bonding. Watching a friend capsize their kayak and figuring out how to help is a memory and bonding experience I'll never forget.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 12, 2023, 09:20:50 AM
Interesting. When I think back on my most interesting memories and bonding experiences, they're usually challenging and often frugal. Random social dinners and charity galas are pretty forgettable and rarely leave me feeling closer to the people in attendance.

I was chatting with a group of other single adult friends not that long ago and we all agreed that dinner dates are the worst dates. Several of us have given up dinner dates as first dates because you learn nothing about the person except how well they manage polite chit-chat and maybe what their favorite food is.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 12, 2023, 10:32:32 AM
Interesting. When I think back on my most interesting memories and bonding experiences, they're usually challenging and often frugal. Random social dinners and charity galas are pretty forgettable and rarely leave me feeling closer to the people in attendance. Helping to build a house for a charity was memorable and promoted bonding. Watching a friend capsize their kayak and figuring out how to help is a memory and bonding experience I'll never forget.

Precisely. If I want to bond with someone, I do something challenging with them. Taking someone to a Hari Krishna temple for a meal is about the lowest threshold of challenging there is because it only lightly pushes people out of their comfort zone.

I only ask my coolest friends to commit crimes with me ;) lol

Last year I found someone I decided needed to be my new best friend and we built a table together.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: tygertygertyger on May 12, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Last year some friends and I wanted to make a gift for a friend who was having her first baby. She had moved to another state several years ago. So... we all got together and made a mobile with our faces swirling around. None of us had ever made a mobile before. It was among the most fun I've had with my friends in years... MetalcatChat™ here on the forum helped me recognize that it was the challenge that was so bonding.

When we finally finished it, the shipping rate turned it into a less-than-frugal thing to do, but otherwise it was quite inexpensive.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: J.R. Ewing on May 13, 2023, 08:24:57 AM
no computer, laptop, tablet or internet just a cheap pay-as-you-go Tracfone.

I feel oddly flattered to be a member of a forum that earns your obviously very limited internet time!
Lol. Yeah spending less time online (on a tiny phone screen no less) can be pretty liberating. And frugal! Assuming you don't fill all that free time shopping off line ;-). I rarely go online and "visit" here less then previously but still enjoy reading others experiences and helpful input. Even us super frugal weirdo FIREees can still learn and be inspired.
I'd love to drop down to a flip phone.  It's getting harder to go without a smartphone though.  Communication with kids teachers is through an app.  You can't park at meters in some of the towns we've traveled to recently without using the app.  Gone are the days of feeding quarters.  It's only going to get worse. 
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Post by: dang1 on May 13, 2023, 11:16:20 AM
sleep is the most frugal thing to do
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Post by: jim555 on May 13, 2023, 03:18:16 PM
Unintentional dumpster diving.  Saw a duffel bag in our dumpster, too good to pass up.  It had an old Win 7 laptop inside, replaced the HD with a $20 SSD, good as new, loaded Win 10 on it.  Use it every day for basic email.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: MrFancypants on May 13, 2023, 06:25:51 PM
Today I tried to repair a microwave that was acting like one of the switches that tells the circuit board if the door is closed had failed.  I used a multimeter to test all three switches and yeah, one of them had actually failed...  I put it all back together again, plugged it in, ran it and then it did the same thing it had been doing before except this time the lights went off and it just wouldn't power back up.  A minute later I realized that I had blown the circuit so I went to the garage to reset the breaker and tried again... same thing, it lit up just fine, but when ran it blew the circuit.

There's dangerous stuff inside a microwave that can kill you if you're not careful and I don't want to die so I guess I'm getting another microwave.  It's possible that I did something that caused this new, fun problem, but that seems unlikely as these switches are fairly straight forward to remove and install.

If that's not frugal enough I've spent a lot of time hand pulling the weeds I deserve because I forgot to drop pre-emergent on the lawn last fall rather than spend $ on a chemical weed killer.
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Post by: Weisass on May 13, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
Well, today I installed a new (on sale) toilet to replace a water wasting one, and sold the old one on fb marketplace.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: stoaX on May 14, 2023, 06:03:42 AM
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

+1 on the sprouting. Personi, I'm a fan of lentil sprouts.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Fru-Gal on May 14, 2023, 10:08:05 AM
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 14, 2023, 11:26:05 AM
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!
That is very badass!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: EchoStache on May 14, 2023, 12:09:21 PM
I spent some time thinking about this, and its hard for me to say what the *single* most frugal thing we do is, and its hard for me to say that any *one* thing in particular makes us frugal or makes the biggest difference.  So for me personally, I'd have to say that it's just paying attention *overall* and being intentional with our money and spending in general, is the biggest frugal thing we do.

Our frugality scale is middle of the road IMO.  Far more frugal than the average American "super wasteful spendy pants spend every penny you make then borrow every penny you can qualify for to buy even more", but far LESS frugal than we could be.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 14, 2023, 12:36:59 PM
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!

I have had several street microwaves over the years that only needed a 50¢ fuse.
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Post by: MrFancypants on May 14, 2023, 12:51:38 PM
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!

That's awesome!  If I could set aside the time to learning how to do all of that I'd give it a go, but lately time is in short supply as I work through a family medical emergency.  I've chosen to use my spare time to fiddle with my guitar for my own personal sanity.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: stoaX on May 14, 2023, 01:40:18 PM
Overall, I'm probably not frugal by the standards of this forum but some aspects of our lives remain so:
- We almost never eat out. Wife still packs her lunch for work
- We basically don't buy alcohol except a couple times a year
- Keep our cars for a long time, typically about 12-14 years
- Lived in the same house for over 25 years (not sure if that counts though)

It should count. The transaction costs of buying and selling your residence and moving are substantial.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 14, 2023, 02:05:50 PM
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

+1 on the sprouting. Personi, I'm a fan of lentil sprouts.

another +1 for sprouting. Currently I'm really into buckwheat sprouts.
We grew enough sprouts( & froze enough greens) so that we barely bought any greenery over the winter. We had green beans, kale, mesclun mixes/mustard greens & even frozen brocollini which is a real garden treat mid-winter.. I love knowing my food didn't have to travel very far to get onto my plate.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 14, 2023, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: Metalcat
I only ask my coolest friends to commit crimes with me ;) lol

Last year I found someone I decided needed to be my new best friend and we built a table together.
It's much gentler than dumping then straight into the ice cold water of asking if they want to be a body paint model at a rap concert, lol.

WHAT IS YOUR LIFE?!
I know that I could read your journal, but I kind of like the mental picture that I have of you. It's...eccentric.

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cannot Wait! on May 14, 2023, 04:15:10 PM
Living my best life - in a camperized cargo van, following the sun. 😊
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: eyesonthehorizon on May 15, 2023, 07:10:09 AM
I had a microwave that I had gotten off the street for free and it worked for a few years but had a growing rusty hole in the back. My neighbor put out a microwave in a box. Took it home, opened the box to find it was the identical model to the one I hand, but branded differently. Plugged it in and the lights went on but it did not heat. I was careful about discharging the electricity in it and using insulated tools. Switched out the magnetron from my own working microwave into the better physical condition one and it works perfectly and is going strong for a few years!!!!
This is terrifying but also very impressive.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: LifeHappens on May 15, 2023, 09:46:02 AM
Love this thread.

I recently started sprouting at home. I used to be part of CSA that often included a tiny packet of mixed sprouts. The farm sells individual packets for $5(!!!). I can grow twice as much from organic seeds for under $0.50.

I also make my own refried beans. They are better than canned, cheaper and only take a few minutes of active effort.

+1 on the sprouting. Personi, I'm a fan of lentil sprouts.

another +1 for sprouting. Currently I'm really into buckwheat sprouts.
We grew enough sprouts( & froze enough greens) so that we barely bought any greenery over the winter. We had green beans, kale, mesclun mixes/mustard greens & even frozen brocollini which is a real garden treat mid-winter.. I love knowing my food didn't have to travel very far to get onto my plate.
Lentil sprouts are great.

That is badass on freezing all those greens. I live in zone 9B so I can theoretically grow some type of green year round. I'm working on improving my gardening skills to try to make this a reality.
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Post by: mistymoney on May 15, 2023, 10:07:49 AM
in a crisis situation, I made my own non-dairy coffee creamer.....never going back to silk!
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Post by: Josiecat22222 on May 15, 2023, 02:34:47 PM
@mistymoney- would you mind to share your recipe?
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Post by: mistymoney on May 15, 2023, 04:07:40 PM
@mistymoney- would you mind to share your recipe?


sure! soak raw walnuts overnight and rinse in the am. put in blender with fresh water, medjul dates and just a scant bit of himalayan pink salt.

I do 2 handfuls of walnuts and 9-12 dates depending on how large the dates are. typically I target 10. water should just cover with some islands sticking out above water - it blends smoother if it is thick.

Do vitamix on lower settings until things are getting mixing, then a full minute on the turbo setting. comes out concentrated and I put about 2 heaping spoonfuls into a large mug of coffee. Can be dilluted for use as milk.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Valley of Plenty on May 16, 2023, 12:52:05 AM
Quote from: Metalcat
I only ask my coolest friends to commit crimes with me ;) lol

Last year I found someone I decided needed to be my new best friend and we built a table together.
It's much gentler than dumping then straight into the ice cold water of asking if they want to be a body paint model at a rap concert, lol.

WHAT IS YOUR LIFE?!
I know that I could read your journal, but I kind of like the mental picture that I have of you. It's...eccentric.

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???

I've definitely done far stranger things in front of a crowd before. What you're describing sounds like perfectly normal recreational activity to me :D
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: TomTX on May 16, 2023, 08:19:41 AM
I need friends who are cool with doing unusual shit out of nowhere. I select for the kind of people I can call and say "hey, wanna come with me to Montreal and commit fairly significant crimes?"
Sure! Can it include shaking down the birth certificate office until they cough up my grandmother's? Also a cemetery tour, as long as that doesn't need to be included in the "significant crimes" segment...

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???
Closest I've got is "Nearly naked and painted by a friend in front of a small crowd, then danced for hours around the Beltane fire out in the woods along with 500+ other people..."

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 16, 2023, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: Metalcat
I only ask my coolest friends to commit crimes with me ;) lol

Last year I found someone I decided needed to be my new best friend and we built a table together.
It's much gentler than dumping then straight into the ice cold water of asking if they want to be a body paint model at a rap concert, lol.

WHAT IS YOUR LIFE?!
I know that I could read your journal, but I kind of like the mental picture that I have of you. It's...eccentric.

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???

I've definitely done far stranger things in front of a crowd before. What you're describing sounds like perfectly normal recreational activity to me :D
Burning Man?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: BicycleB on May 16, 2023, 11:31:08 AM
Walk with mom and her friends.

They've been getting together on Sundays since the 1970s. Back then, it was a running group of several dozen people. The host for the week would plan routes, leave water to drink at strategic points, and offer their home as post-run gathering spot. When the last person got back from their run, the first bite of potluck could be eaten. Now it's the same except the pace is a walk, because the members are 70ish to 80something years of age, and there's not quite as many people - maybe 20 at the potluck, and the potluck part only happens on weeks someone is ready to host. I ran with the group as a child, and later for a year or two after college, so now it's one of the best parts of "home".

It's not free, because the homes are spread out so we usually drive there, and you need to contribute to the potluck. But in return you get exercise, community, information, and a great meal.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 16, 2023, 12:44:15 PM
Walk with mom and her friends.

They've been getting together on Sundays since the 1970s. Back then, it was a running group of several dozen people. The host for the week would plan routes, leave water to drink at strategic points, and offer their home as post-run gathering spot. When the last person got back from their run, the first bite of potluck could be eaten. Now it's the same except the pace is a walk, because the members are 70ish to 80something years of age, and there's not quite as many people - maybe 20 at the potluck, and the potluck part only happens on weeks someone is ready to host. I ran with the group as a child, and later for a year or two after college, so now it's one of the best parts of "home".

It's not free, because the homes are spread out so we usually drive there, and you need to contribute to the potluck. But in return you get exercise, community, information, and a great meal.

That whole situation is about the sweetest thing I've ever heard. I love it.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 16, 2023, 01:11:34 PM
I need friends who are cool with doing unusual shit out of nowhere. I select for the kind of people I can call and say "hey, wanna come with me to Montreal and commit fairly significant crimes?"
Sure! Can it include shaking down the birth certificate office until they cough up my grandmother's? Also a cemetery tour, as long as that doesn't need to be included in the "significant crimes" segment...[/b]

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???
Closest I've got is "Nearly naked and painted by a friend in front of a small crowd, then danced for hours around the Beltane fire out in the woods along with 500+ other people..."

Lol! This was DH and I trying to get his Irish passport worked out, which involved us traipsing through a Montreal cemetery at night in thigh deep snow to get birth and death dates, then charming the Irish embassy into agreeing that yes, the woman with the significantly different name in their registry was *definitely* hi grandmother. Lol.

So maybe a little bit of crime with that one, lol!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Valley of Plenty on May 17, 2023, 02:47:29 AM
Quote from: Metalcat
I only ask my coolest friends to commit crimes with me ;) lol

Last year I found someone I decided needed to be my new best friend and we built a table together.
It's much gentler than dumping then straight into the ice cold water of asking if they want to be a body paint model at a rap concert, lol.

WHAT IS YOUR LIFE?!
I know that I could read your journal, but I kind of like the mental picture that I have of you. It's...eccentric.

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???

I've definitely done far stranger things in front of a crowd before. What you're describing sounds like perfectly normal recreational activity to me :D
Burning Man?

Never been to Burning Man, but I used to attend BDSM conventions on a semi-regular basis

Was never painted in front of a crowd, but I have been flogged in front of a crowd while mostly naked, which I would imagine ranks as at least slightly more bizarre to most people
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: bryan995 on May 17, 2023, 08:39:32 AM
for me its probably a somewhat infrequent visit to this forum .. hah
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Post by: eyesonthehorizon on May 17, 2023, 02:35:36 PM
...Closest I've got is "Nearly naked and painted by a friend in front of a small crowd, then danced for hours around the Beltane fire out in the woods along with 500+ other people..."
You ever wonder if the reason we have so many enthusiastic pagans is just the ambient theocracy? Curious what decade that was & if they're still going (...&, consequently to the first thought, if it will be revived given the present CFery.)

I haven't done any of it since I was too young to be part of that particular activity but it still beat the metaphorical pants off any of the other religious celebrations I attended.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: StarBright on May 18, 2023, 06:34:56 AM
for me its probably a somewhat infrequent visit to this forum .. hah

Honestly, I think this is a great answer! If you aren't naturally inclined to frugality (It's me! Hi! I'm the problem, it's me) then just reading the forum/blog on a semi regular basis can help keep on the path/plant the seeds/give a little extra motivation.

Like having a glass of water to see if you are really hungry, reading the forum can help us evaluate wants and needs.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dancin'Dog on May 18, 2023, 08:26:57 AM
Upon reflection, I think the most frugal thing I do might be just letting shit be broken.

I have so many things that need a fix. The car door locks don't work right and require a work-around. The paint is peeling off of some Bondo on the front grille. The kitchen floor has been missing a bit of flooring for over a year. The screen door doesn't latch. The patio window is clouded over and needs replacing. Only one of my three interior doors actually closes properly (thankfully, it's the bathroom!). My TV's backlight is out; everything looks a bit bluer than it should. The living room bookshelf is missing bits of veneer. The deck steps are broken. I can't type the number 8 or the exclamation point on my laptop keyboard. The shed has a big hole in the wall. Half my windows don't open. All my trousers need to be taken in, and I'm just safety pinning them along the seam every morning.

Don't get me wrong; over time, all this stuff needs to be tended to and the overall trend is that things are moving forward. But if I fixed everything that needed fixing today, I'd be broke and in debt. Letting the small things ride until I have the time, money, and energy to address them (or can source free materials, or learn what I need to know to address them) is a big part of why I have an emergency fund at all.




I have similar tendencies, but it is a slippery slope that can result in finding yourself in an insurmountable hole that is almost impossible to escape from.  I've watched it happen to friends & family to various degrees.  It's especially bad if they have hoarding issues too.  I mean being surrounded by piles of so-so stuff can become overwhelming and depressing.  It's not so bad for solo people, because they've put themselves there.  But it's really sad to watch innocent family members being affected by it. 


It's Spring, so I'm in overdrive trying to catch up with all the repairs that need to get done outdoors.  I used to enjoy Spring, but as I get older it seems that there are more things to fix.  I've been tackling the underground irrigation system around our yard.  It needed help when we moved here in 2019, and while on the "back burner" it's been damaged during other DIY projects.  I've had to repair 3 leaks in the line before I could even begin addressing the individual mal/non-functioning sprinkler heads.  It's been a bit of a learning getting started because I've never worked on sprinklers before.  (The damned things will soak you while you're trying to adjust them!)  I'm trying to enjoy the experience, and I realize that if I don't get it done the yard will be dried up & dead looking within a month or two. 


But, first I need to drag out a tall ladder and replace the battery in the smoke detector downstairs that's been chirping since Sunday!  (it's Thursday now...)


:~)


 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 18, 2023, 10:57:45 AM
I have similar tendencies, but it is a slippery slope that can result in finding yourself in an insurmountable hole that is almost impossible to escape from.  I've watched it happen to friends & family to various degrees.  It's especially bad if they have hoarding issues too.  I mean being surrounded by piles of so-so stuff can become overwhelming and depressing.  It's not so bad for solo people, because they've put themselves there.  But it's really sad to watch innocent family members being affected by it. 

Fortunately, I am not a hoarder. No piles, just a regular amount of so-so stuff.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: calimom on May 19, 2023, 09:36:46 PM
A high school friend was recently in my area and we got together for a visit to catch up. As we were ooohing and ahhhing over how great the other looked and so forth. She told me the Wrangler shirt I had on reminded her of a shirt I wore to school. I informed her it was the same shirt - just broken in more. I don't keep everything forever but I have no problem hanging on to stuff I like with no need to replace things 'just because'.

*for context we graduated in 1994.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 20, 2023, 12:03:13 AM
A high school friend was recently in my area and we got together for a visit to catch up. As we were ooohing and ahhhing over how great the other looked and so forth. She told me the Wrangler shirt I had on reminded her of a shirt I wore to school. I informed her it was the same shirt - just broken in more. I don't keep everything forever but I have no problem hanging on to stuff I like with no need to replace things 'just because'.

*for context we graduated in 1994.
Badass!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Omy on May 20, 2023, 06:59:30 AM
I still have a handful of clothing items from the 80s and 90s, but I recently donated a bunch of that stuff that wasn't too worn or dated. The rest of my 80s and 90s attire has been turned into cleaning rags.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Catbert on May 20, 2023, 10:39:03 AM
A high school friend was recently in my area and we got together for a visit to catch up. As we were ooohing and ahhhing over how great the other looked and so forth. She told me the Wrangler shirt I had on reminded her of a shirt I wore to school. I informed her it was the same shirt - just broken in more. I don't keep everything forever but I have no problem hanging on to stuff I like with no need to replace things 'just because'.

*for context we graduated in 1994.

Possibly the most impressive thing is that you still fit in it.  Not many of us can fit into our garments from 30 years ago.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on May 20, 2023, 12:02:04 PM
I am cooking chicken in an electric pressure cooker on the deck so I don't heat up and humidity the house. Short of using a solar oven or just eating food that doesn't require heat, I think this is the frugal-est summer cooking I could do.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: stoaX on May 22, 2023, 07:41:41 AM
My most frugal habits have already been mentioned:  use the library, drive an older car, don't eat out, 4 year old phone, no pets, live in a walkable community and Mrs. stoaX cuts my hair.  There's probably a few more frugal habits that I can't think of right now.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on May 22, 2023, 08:13:25 AM
A high school friend was recently in my area and we got together for a visit to catch up. As we were ooohing and ahhhing over how great the other looked and so forth. She told me the Wrangler shirt I had on reminded her of a shirt I wore to school. I informed her it was the same shirt - just broken in more. I don't keep everything forever but I have no problem hanging on to stuff I like with no need to replace things 'just because'.

*for context we graduated in 1994.

I graduated a few years after you and still have dresses I bought in highschool that are still favourites.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on May 22, 2023, 10:48:18 AM
I love vintage clothing and was lucky enough to obtain some items from my mom (neither of my siblings like or can wear vintage style). My favourite spring coat is hers and there is another tailored jacket made from beautiful handwoven material--likely from the late 50's/early 60's.

 She is so country casual now so it's also a nice reminder to imagine her in younger city years being quite styled. I also have been given other peoples vintage clothing b/c they know I'll use and appreciate it more than they do.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: calimom on May 24, 2023, 08:05:20 PM
I love vintage clothing and was lucky enough to obtain some items from my mom (neither of my siblings like or can wear vintage style). My favourite spring coat is hers and there is another tailored jacket made from beautiful handwoven material--likely from the late 50's/early 60's.

 She is so country casual now so it's also a nice reminder to imagine her in younger city years being quite styled. I also have been given other peoples vintage clothing b/c they know I'll use and appreciate it more than they do.

I love this and it's also a testament to how well-made clothing was in past decades. Today's fast fashion will not stand the test of time, sadly.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: TomTX on May 25, 2023, 03:18:43 PM
I love this and it's also a testament to how well-made clothing was in past decades. Today's fast fashion will not stand the test of time, sadly.
I have a set of coveralls which belonged to my grandfather, who died in 1972 - no idea how old they really are. Still work fine. I also have a couple of wool army blankets from him, possibly from WWI when he served. I suppose there's somewhere an enthusiast group with details on how to determine the era of a wool army blanket....
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Herbert Derp on May 27, 2023, 06:40:19 AM
The most frugal thing I’ve ever done is live in a tiny studio condo that I paid in full, while also walking to work and not owning a car. I did that for a period of about six years.

The most extreme frugal things I did were not paying for Internet, not having hot water, and buying bananas one at a time so that I could get free bananas with my $0.10 cash back per transaction debit card.

I need friends who are cool with doing unusual shit out of nowhere. I select for the kind of people I can call and say "hey, wanna come with me to Montreal and commit fairly significant crimes?"
Sure! Can it include shaking down the birth certificate office until they cough up my grandmother's? Also a cemetery tour, as long as that doesn't need to be included in the "significant crimes" segment...

I mean, who hasn't been half naked and painted on by a total stranger in front of a huge crowd of people at some point in their life??? Right....???
Closest I've got is "Nearly naked and painted by a friend in front of a small crowd, then danced for hours around the Beltane fire out in the woods along with 500+ other people..."

Never been to Burning Man, but I used to attend BDSM conventions on a semi-regular basis

Was never painted in front of a crowd, but I have been flogged in front of a crowd while mostly naked, which I would imagine ranks as at least slightly more bizarre to most people

Wow, you guys sound like my kind of people! I spent three months homeless and living in a hippie commune in the woods where they did all of that stuff, while also working remotely for my very serious big person job. How did we all end up on this forum together?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: fuzzy math on May 27, 2023, 09:21:22 AM
Yesterday I was biking on a semi busy road.... turned around twice, stopped and picked up 2 pennies. I wasn't going to be able to enjoy my ride if I had kept thinking about them laying there all lonely
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 27, 2023, 10:54:52 AM
Yesterday I was biking on a semi busy road.... turned around twice, stopped and picked up 2 pennies. I wasn't going to be able to enjoy my ride if I had kept thinking about them laying there all lonely
Thank you for saving the lonely pennies.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: sonofsven on May 27, 2023, 11:12:24 AM
Yesterday I was biking on a semi busy road.... turned around twice, stopped and picked up 2 pennies. I wasn't going to be able to enjoy my ride if I had kept thinking about them laying there all lonely

Ha, I stop and pick up working 5 gallon buckets from the side of the road when I'm driving.
Free bucket!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: TomTX on May 27, 2023, 03:34:32 PM
Wow, you guys sound like my kind of people! I spent three months homeless and living in a hippie commune in the woods where they did all of that stuff, while also working remotely for my very serious big person job. How did we all end up on this forum together?
Well, I guess it comes from a root cause of not being someone who just follows the default societal choices/emphases. I'm not gonna be a consumerist sukka. I will go ahead and dance nearly nekkid around a giant fire with thumpy drums and dozens of other dancers. I think I forgot to mention, but a different friend did my hair in "warrior braids"* in addition to the skin paint - had hair down to my beltline at that time.

*Kind of like these: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/408631366206351305/ https://www.pinterest.com/pin/857513585314729874/
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on May 27, 2023, 11:58:56 PM
Yesterday I was biking on a semi busy road.... turned around twice, stopped and picked up 2 pennies. I wasn't going to be able to enjoy my ride if I had kept thinking about them laying there all lonely
In keeping with this theme, DH picked up two pieces of sweeping 90 degree conduit fittings while on his walk yesterday.  He figures they fell off someone's truck. They're worth about $30.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: TomTX on May 29, 2023, 08:35:17 AM
Hey we're twins! I wear my hair in weird braids all the time but never knew they were called anything. Obviously NOT getting my hair cut is another frugal thing I do ;-).
As much as I would enjoy being your twin, I went to short hair awhile ago.

Upon some further thought - I do have the cut-off ponytail in a box in the closet, so I suppose it would be possible to make extensions using my own hair....
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on May 29, 2023, 09:44:20 AM
Hey we're twins! I wear my hair in weird braids all the time but never knew they were called anything. Obviously NOT getting my hair cut is another frugal thing I do ;-).
As much as I would enjoy being your twin, I went to short hair awhile ago.

Upon some further thought - I do have the cut-off ponytail in a box in the closet, so I suppose it would be possible to make extensions using my own hair....

You might be able to sell that ponytail, depending on length and condition.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: mistymoney on May 29, 2023, 12:01:42 PM
Hey we're twins! I wear my hair in weird braids all the time but never knew they were called anything. Obviously NOT getting my hair cut is another frugal thing I do ;-).
As much as I would enjoy being your twin, I went to short hair awhile ago.

Upon some further thought - I do have the cut-off ponytail in a box in the closet, so I suppose it would be possible to make extensions using my own hair....

You might be able to sell that ponytail, depending on length and condition.

True story! At one point, I had my hair below my butt, very thick, and I always kept it trimmed and blunt cut so that it was not thinner at the end. Both while it was on my head and especially after cutting it off for a partially shaved look, that braid was the only emergency fund we had. If we were ever going to go hungry, it was the only asset I had to sell. I did not want to sell it, of course! Thankfully - we never went hungry and I still have it.

The braid is about 3-4' thick and maybe up to 3' long. It was in very good condition, but lightly bleached - just enough so it could take some temp colors and hold them for a month or two. so a bleach application but put on for just like 3-4 minutes rather than 25.

Checking now - this braid is worth about 700 dollars right now....I know it was about 400 when I cut it off. Should I include in my NW calculations going forward? Will it work like gold for a comodities hedge?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on May 29, 2023, 01:24:32 PM
True story! At one point, I had my hair below my butt, very thick, and I always kept it trimmed

Thick or not, it's probably best for sanitary purposes to keep butt hair trimmed to shorter levels.  :P
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: mistymoney on May 29, 2023, 02:16:53 PM
True story! At one point, I had my hair below my butt, very thick, and I always kept it trimmed

Thick or not, it's probably best for sanitary purposes to keep butt hair trimmed to shorter levels.  :P

<insert lackluster rimshot here>
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: CountToFI on July 22, 2023, 09:05:54 PM
I'll bite, but its hard to choose just one.

I use traditional coffee filters instead of the appropriately sized #4's because they're a fraction of the cost (put this down in your list of life hacks, it should get you to FI in no time)

I also still have underwear from 15 years ago.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: chasingsnow on July 22, 2023, 09:53:10 PM
A couple that come to mind:

-Dont pay for haircuts as DW cuts my hair
-Currently doing a massive house renovation and have completed all of the plumbing, electrical, etc ourselves
-We are a one car household and will hold our car for a decade or more
-Growing lots of our own food in our garden
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: johndoe on July 23, 2023, 09:11:15 AM
Thanks to all for ideas.  I was struck how many mentioned lack of alcohol, I wonder if a disproportionate number of us are non-drinkers.

I'm in the midst a low-buy year and my partner & I did a full no-buy year five years ago.
Sorry to be "THAT guy", but NO buy?  How does that work?

I bet the area where I'm most "above average" on frugality is cars (although I'm way behind those of you without cars!).  I haven't saved every receipt, but it looks like after 20 years of driving I've spent ~$44k (includes three cars purchased, insurance, registration, maintenance, gas).  So I'd be at $2.2k/yr - some stats online suggest the average American in that period (2003-2023) was ~$9k/yr.  ~$7k/yr "above average" doesn't feel that huge, but I guess it adds up!  Thinking another way, from the Social Security website my earnings over that period were ~$850k, so the cars ate up ~5% of income.  Not bad for a suburbanite!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on July 23, 2023, 01:18:30 PM

I'm in the midst a low-buy year and my partner & I did a full no-buy year five years ago.
Sorry to be "THAT guy", but NO buy?  How does that work?

 It sounds extreme doesn't it :)
It just meant no spending beyond food & household essentials (toilet paper, etc)

So even if things broke if they weren't essential to work/safety they weren't replaced. It was a VERY effective way to see all the ways money slips out of your life $20 at a time--all of a sudden it felt like I had so much money (a good indicator I'd been spending mindlessly which many on this forum do not do..)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on July 24, 2023, 06:59:01 AM
If you have a shower head in the room where your toilet lives, toilet paper is not a household essential.  It should be recognized as an extravagance.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on July 24, 2023, 06:03:15 PM
Just returned from a trip and realized one of my tricks might qualify for this thread. I buy vitamins at Costco. One day it occurred to me that the sturdy, airtight  containers might make very good travel ice. I wash the vitamin bottles on the top shelf of the dishwasher, fill and freeze them, then use them in the cooler. Bonus, as the ice melts, it can either be refrozen in the RV fridge or, if we get somewhere where the water quality is less than what we're used to, we drink the water from the unneeded vitamin bottles.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: scottnews on July 26, 2023, 04:13:41 AM
Just returned from a trip and realized one of my tricks might qualify for this thread. I buy vitamins at Costco. One day it occurred to me that the sturdy, airtight  containers might make very good travel ice. I wash the vitamin bottles on the top shelf of the dishwasher, fill and freeze them, then use them in the cooler. Bonus, as the ice melts, it can either be refrozen in the RV fridge or, if we get somewhere where the water quality is less than what we're used to, we drink the water from the unneeded vitamin bottles.
This would keep the water mess from getting all over.   I'll have to try this, this summer.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: stoaX on July 26, 2023, 04:38:46 AM
Just returned from a trip and realized one of my tricks might qualify for this thread. I buy vitamins at Costco. One day it occurred to me that the sturdy, airtight  containers might make very good travel ice. I wash the vitamin bottles on the top shelf of the dishwasher, fill and freeze them, then use them in the cooler. Bonus, as the ice melts, it can either be refrozen in the RV fridge or, if we get somewhere where the water quality is less than what we're used to, we drink the water from the unneeded vitamin bottles.
This would keep the water mess from getting all over.   I'll have to try this, this summer.

I have a small plastic storage bin full of ice in the freezer for use in a cooler, but if it gets turned over it leaks. I like this idea better.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on July 26, 2023, 07:34:56 AM
Just returned from a trip and realized one of my tricks might qualify for this thread. I buy vitamins at Costco. One day it occurred to me that the sturdy, airtight  containers might make very good travel ice. I wash the vitamin bottles on the top shelf of the dishwasher, fill and freeze them, then use them in the cooler. Bonus, as the ice melts, it can either be refrozen in the RV fridge or, if we get somewhere where the water quality is less than what we're used to, we drink the water from the unneeded vitamin bottles.
This would keep the water mess from getting all over.   I'll have to try this, this summer.

I have a small plastic storage bin full of ice in the freezer for use in a cooler, but if it gets turned over it leaks. I like this idea better.

The bottles don't expand/leak when the water freezes in them?  Or do you leave some space at the top of the bottle?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Serendip on July 26, 2023, 08:09:34 AM
If you have a shower head in the room where your toilet lives, toilet paper is not a household essential.  It should be recognized as an extravagance.

Everyone has their own definition of ‘luxuries’ ;)

A friend I visited had a roll of paper towel in their bathroom—they recently forgot to put toilet paper in the bathroom when someone was coming over (they use a bidet) and stranded an older guest who took 20min to figure out how to use the contraption.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Frugal Lizard on July 26, 2023, 08:15:43 AM
One of my frugal practices is using loose leaf tea instead of tea bags.

I make a whole pot of tea in the morning. I drink a cup with breakfast and save the rest of the pot in a really well insulated thermos jug. It lasts until my caffeine cut off time in the afternoon.

The tea is fairly expensive - 28CAN$ for a pound. I have a jar in the cupboard for daily use and freeze the rest. The bag lasts more than six months. It is the best tasting tea. Now I can't drink tea anywhere but at home because all the other tea doesn't compare. That saves me a lot of money in take away/dining in.

It is not probably the most frugal thing I do, but I do it every day and pausing for a really good cuppa is a simple pleasure.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on July 26, 2023, 08:50:33 AM
After spending an entire evening with folks chain smoking cigarettes ($.80/cigarette out here) and drinking beer like it's water (~ $6/can), it feels pretty frugal to have gotten through the entire night on <$6 of dealcoholized beer, and that was just the pre-party. God knows what they spent at the concert.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on July 26, 2023, 02:54:33 PM
Just returned from a trip and realized one of my tricks might qualify for this thread. I buy vitamins at Costco. One day it occurred to me that the sturdy, airtight  containers might make very good travel ice. I wash the vitamin bottles on the top shelf of the dishwasher, fill and freeze them, then use them in the cooler. Bonus, as the ice melts, it can either be refrozen in the RV fridge or, if we get somewhere where the water quality is less than what we're used to, we drink the water from the unneeded vitamin bottles.
This would keep the water mess from getting all over.   I'll have to try this, this summer.

I have a small plastic storage bin full of ice in the freezer for use in a cooler, but if it gets turned over it leaks. I like this idea better.

The bottles don't expand/leak when the water freezes in them?  Or do you leave some space at the top of the bottle?
I leave about an inch of headroom. The bottles do sweat while defrosting, but generally don't leak.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Sanitary Stache on July 26, 2023, 05:15:08 PM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on July 26, 2023, 06:28:55 PM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Loretta on July 26, 2023, 07:29:36 PM
Seems there's a hankering for discussion on some unusually frugal choices, so let's do it!

What is the most (or Top 3, if you are so inclined) frugal thing you do?

Mine are probably driving very little (about 1000 miles/year) and living where we do to be super close to DH's work.  I'm definitely not a super frugal person, so I look forward to being inspired by those who are!


1.  I purposefully live in a cheaper condo that is in decent driving distance of my employer.
2.  I haven't had cable TV since 2015.
3.  I don't drink alcohol, I don't wear makeup, and I don't shop for the sake of shopping.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on July 27, 2023, 05:32:30 AM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

I always keep soy sauce packets for picnics. Sushi is one of my favourite picnic meals to make and it's much easier to pack soy sauce than trying to find a little container for it.

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: elysianfields on July 27, 2023, 08:43:07 AM
In the grand scheme of things, probably being a DIYer and being able to fix and improve our home over the last few years has saved me the most $$$... doesn't feel like it when you are still spending money on tools and materials down at the DIY store though!

Ugh…you were doing great then you ruined it with your attitude!

I DIY for most things, except serious plumbing and electrical and I don’t get on the roof anymore. I remember when I bought my first gas chain saw. A tree died and the guy wanted $350. No thank you. DW asks what’d spend on that? I said I made us $220 on it.

The right tool, good-to-better quality, is not a waste of money.

Not sure about your local areas, but our Buy Nothing Group is full of requests to borrow specific tools/equipment for short-term use.  I've borrowed all manner of high quality tools (and lent out my own meagre supply) to enable me to do jobs without lining the pockets of the DIY stores in the process.  Much cheaper than having a shed full of quite specific tools that have each only been used sparingly.

That's a great idea, and one jurisdiction we lived in has a tool library that gets plenty of use.

Working overseas for the U.S. Department of State in the Foreign Service provides lots of frugal opportunities.  We generally live in inexpensive countries overseas which all have interesting things to see and do.  This, and accumulating travel miles, allow us to keep our travel costs fairly low.

We pay no housing costs (rent, electric, gas, water) except for internet, and save that cash rather than blowing it visiting all the countries - some of our colleagues spend crazy amounts doing so.  In return, I try to provide maximum benefit to our bosses, the U.S. taxpayers.

Meanwhile, we own a house in the HCOL Washington, D.C. area, which we bought long ago and rent out for approximately 2x our PI mortgage costs.  Fortunately, our tenants take great care of the property.

When we lived in Europe, we eschewed a car in favor or public transit, biking, and trains, though we did rent or borrow vehicles when we needed them.  In other countries, we always bought vehicles adapted to the local conditions to make resale easier and minimize depreciation.

We do lots of cooking and baking at home in lieu of eating out.  We love to hike and take long weekend walks, often with groups of friends, which provides health and social benefits while keeping costs low.

In short, we save heavily on the big three expenses, and one of them provides net income.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Sanitary Stache on July 27, 2023, 02:33:51 PM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

I always keep soy sauce packets for picnics. Sushi is one of my favourite picnic meals to make and it's much easier to pack soy sauce than trying to find a little container for it.

Thanks for the excuse to do the right thing! 
“For picnics.” Will now be my soy sauce saving mantra.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on July 27, 2023, 08:17:47 PM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

I don't empty the ketchup packets into a ketchup bottle.  I just toss them in a drawer and then when I need ketchup, I just grab a packet. Same w soy sauce.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: rosarugosa on July 28, 2023, 04:34:15 AM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

I don't empty the ketchup packets into a ketchup bottle.  I just toss them in a drawer and then when I need ketchup, I just grab a packet. Same w soy sauce.

We have a container in the fridge full of little packets.  I think we've bought one jar of ketchup in the past 10 years, and I cannot remember the last time we bought soy sauce.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Luke Warm on July 28, 2023, 06:43:12 AM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

Why waste money on a container? Just use the packets.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on July 28, 2023, 06:47:39 AM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

Why waste money on a container? Just use the packets.

Yeah, I don't get the point of emptying the packets.

Makes me think y'all don't go out for enough picnics.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Raenia on July 28, 2023, 07:09:54 AM
How often are people going out for fast food, to have that many spare ketchup packets? I don't think I've had more than 1-2 extra packets in years, certainly not enough to replace buying bottled ketchup. Especially nowadays, when many places don't have the packets out on the counter, and you have to ask for extras.

Soy sauce makes more sense to me, as they usually throw handfuls of packets in for any size order, but even then, I don't order Chinese takeout nearly often enough to maintain a stash of sauce. Maybe 2-3 times a year, max?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on July 28, 2023, 07:34:32 AM
How often are people going out for fast food, to have that many spare ketchup packets? I don't think I've had more than 1-2 extra packets in years, certainly not enough to replace buying bottled ketchup. Especially nowadays, when many places don't have the packets out on the counter, and you have to ask for extras.

Soy sauce makes more sense to me, as they usually throw handfuls of packets in for any size order, but even then, I don't order Chinese takeout nearly often enough to maintain a stash of sauce. Maybe 2-3 times a year, max?

I was kind of wondering this too. I always get a huge pile of packets on the rare occasions that I do get takeout sushi, but not enough to replace even a single month's worth of soy sauce (I cook a lot with soy sauce).
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on July 28, 2023, 07:41:39 AM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

Why waste money on a container? Just use the packets.

I don't ever have a need for individually wrapped packets, but always have a container of soy sauce in the fridge.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on July 28, 2023, 09:30:36 AM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

Why waste money on a container? Just use the packets.

I don't ever have a need for individually wrapped packets, but always have a container of soy sauce in the fridge.

I don't understand this. What need does a container of soy sauce fulfill that packets won't?  If I'm cooking with soy sauce and need a larger quantity, I can open several packets.

I will say that I find packet soy sauce to be less flavorful than the stuff purchased in a bottle, so I do occasionally end up using more to get the same flavor. 

(I can't remember the term for when you say a word too much that it looses it's sense of meaning.  Does anyone know?  That's now happened with me for the word 'packets'.)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: getsorted on July 28, 2023, 09:31:52 AM
Some places just absolutely shovel soy sauce or ketchup packets into their takeout bags, especially for group orders. I never get takeout, but my work frequently does, and I end up with mountains of packets of everything under the sun. We used to have a whole drawer at work full of packets of parmesan cheese, red pepper flakes, hot sauce, peanut butter, mayo, ketchup, mustard, soy sauce, duck sauce, BBQ sauce, etc. etc.

I learned at some point that mixing a mustard packet and a mayonnaise packet makes a decent single serving of salad dressing if you forget yours at home. Ditto for a peanut butter packet plus a soy sauce and a hot sauce packet.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dancin'Dog on July 28, 2023, 09:49:16 AM
Some places just absolutely shovel soy sauce or ketchup packets into their takeout bags, especially for group orders. I never get takeout, but my work frequently does, and I end up with mountains of packets of everything under the sun. We used to have a whole drawer at work full of packets of parmesan cheese, red pepper flakes, hot sauce, peanut butter, mayo, ketchup, mustard, soy sauce, duck sauce, BBQ sauce, etc. etc.

I learned at some point that mixing a mustard packet and a mayonnaise packet makes a decent single serving of salad dressing if you forget yours at home. Ditto for a peanut butter packet plus a soy sauce and a hot sauce packet.




Our local Chinese takeout joint does that.  I recently cleaned out our junk drawer and returned 2 or 3 lbs to their stupid packets of duck sauce, soy sauce, & mustard.  The cashier seemed a bit shocked when I handed her the bag of packets.  (We probably wouldn't even order Chinese if there were better options nearby.  Most of their dishes are flooded with sweet heavy sauces.) 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on July 28, 2023, 11:33:52 AM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

Why waste money on a container? Just use the packets.

I don't ever have a need for individually wrapped packets, but always have a container of soy sauce in the fridge.

I don't understand this. What need does a container of soy sauce fulfill that packets won't?  If I'm cooking with soy sauce and need a larger quantity, I can open several packets.

I will say that I find packet soy sauce to be less flavorful than the stuff purchased in a bottle, so I do occasionally end up using more to get the same flavor. 

(I can't remember the term for when you say a word too much that it looses it's sense of meaning.  Does anyone know?  That's now happened with me for the word 'packets'.)

Besides being annoyingly messy, packets are an inconvenient way to use soy sauce while cooking.  Opening a new packet to add a little bit more is a PITA.  Pouring two and a half teaspoons of soy into a dish is a PITA.  Packets are inferior in every way other than portability to a bottle.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Villanelle on July 28, 2023, 12:30:17 PM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

Why waste money on a container? Just use the packets.

I don't ever have a need for individually wrapped packets, but always have a container of soy sauce in the fridge.

I don't understand this. What need does a container of soy sauce fulfill that packets won't?  If I'm cooking with soy sauce and need a larger quantity, I can open several packets.

I will say that I find packet soy sauce to be less flavorful than the stuff purchased in a bottle, so I do occasionally end up using more to get the same flavor. 

(I can't remember the term for when you say a word too much that it looses it's sense of meaning.  Does anyone know?  That's now happened with me for the word 'packets'.)

Besides being annoyingly messy, packets are an inconvenient way to use soy sauce while cooking.  Opening a new packet to add a little bit more is a PITA.  Pouring two and a half teaspoons of soy into a dish is a PITA.  Packets are inferior in every way other than portability to a bottle.

You have to open and pour them either way though, no?  They don't just magically transport their contents into the bottle.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on July 28, 2023, 02:41:55 PM
I keep having visions of “frugal” living from some ABC special that came off as painting frugal people as super weirdos. One character refilled their ketchup container with leftover packets of ketchup from the fast food joint. I find myself purposefully resisting this activity and throwing away perfectly fine packets of soy sauce. I think “ I could just empty those into the soy bottle”. But then I the ABC nightly news brain washing kicks in and I give in to the peer pressure of not being that weirdo.

The actual frugal thing to do here is spend on eating out intentionally and we work on exercising that frugality muscle continuously.

FFS!  Don't throw out perfectly good food!  Put the soy sauce in the bigger container!  It is bizarre and weird to live on a planet of finite resources and waste things simply because of social conditioning.

Why waste money on a container? Just use the packets.

I don't ever have a need for individually wrapped packets, but always have a container of soy sauce in the fridge.

I don't understand this. What need does a container of soy sauce fulfill that packets won't?  If I'm cooking with soy sauce and need a larger quantity, I can open several packets.

I will say that I find packet soy sauce to be less flavorful than the stuff purchased in a bottle, so I do occasionally end up using more to get the same flavor. 

(I can't remember the term for when you say a word too much that it looses it's sense of meaning.  Does anyone know?  That's now happened with me for the word 'packets'.)

Besides being annoyingly messy, packets are an inconvenient way to use soy sauce while cooking.  Opening a new packet to add a little bit more is a PITA.  Pouring two and a half teaspoons of soy into a dish is a PITA.  Packets are inferior in every way other than portability to a bottle.

You have to open and pour them either way though, no?  They don't just magically transport their contents into the bottle.

Screw cap or pop top > ripping fiddly bit of plastic.  And can be replaced . . . instead of needing to either pour the remainder into a new container or waste it.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Josiecat22222 on July 28, 2023, 02:48:13 PM
Most frugal thing I do is collaborate with DH on all major and minor financial choices. We research our investments, interest rates, service providers and have long deliberate discussions about where we think we should we should put our money to reach our shared goals.  This isn't fun or sexy...but it is rewarding. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on July 28, 2023, 05:45:31 PM
Most frugal thing I do is collaborate with DH on all major and minor financial choices. We research our investments, interest rates, service providers and have long deliberate discussions about where we think we should we should put our money to reach our shared goals.  This isn't fun or sexy...but it is rewarding.
Good on you.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on July 28, 2023, 09:42:03 PM
Most frugal thing I do is collaborate with DH on all major and minor financial choices. We research our investments, interest rates, service providers and have long deliberate discussions about where we think we should we should put our money to reach our shared goals.  This isn't fun or sexy...but it is rewarding.

I personally find the process very fun and sexy. It's all about having a shared, enthusiastic vision for the future, and I find crafting that and strategizing it A LOT of fun.

I don't see it any different from researching flights and hotels for a trip.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Josiecat22222 on July 29, 2023, 06:05:17 AM
Thanks @Dicey and @Metalcat !!  The truth is, we do enjoy it.  I love that we discuss all of the minutiae and create a shared plan.  The partnership is really the fun/sexy part for me.  The FIRE status was a perk of that partnership.

We spent a couple of hours yesterday researching interest rates on our cash account.  Went to our bank, filled out some paperwork, called our other providers and wound up making 2.5x the interest rate for our efforts.  Not bad for a morning's work!!

NB: NO ONE will tell you how long their "promotional" interest rates will last.  We last did this interest rate shopping in March....and our rate came down by a third in that time with no notice.  Despite rates going up again.  So, my frugal habit is checking my interest rates and then shifting money based on who gives us the best rate.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on July 29, 2023, 09:13:02 AM
Thanks @Dicey and @Metalcat !!  The truth is, we do enjoy it.  I love that we discuss all of the minutiae and create a shared plan.  The partnership is really the fun/sexy part for me.  The FIRE status was a perk of that partnership.

We spent a couple of hours yesterday researching interest rates on our cash account.  Went to our bank, filled out some paperwork, called our other providers and wound up making 2.5x the interest rate for our efforts.  Not bad for a morning's work!!

NB: NO ONE will tell you how long their "promotional" interest rates will last.  We last did this interest rate shopping in March....and our rate came down by a third in that time with no notice.  Despite rates going up again.  So, my frugal habit is checking my interest rates and then shifting money based on who gives us the best rate.

That's awesome. I think more people should find fun and romance in financial planning with their spouses. It can be a great time.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Louise on July 29, 2023, 09:26:13 AM
We DIY just about everything in our house and for our vehicles. There have been a few exceptions, but it saves tens of thousands over the years.

I don't wear makeup or buy a lot of new clothes. I'm wearing an 11 year old dress right now. The style is pretty basic. I mostly cook from scratch. Don't get me wrong, I like eating out, but it's pretty expensive.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on July 29, 2023, 10:20:04 AM
We DIY just about everything in our house and for our vehicles. There have been a few exceptions, but it saves tens of thousands over the years.

I don't wear makeup or buy a lot of new clothes. I'm wearing an 11 year old dress right now. The style is pretty basic. I mostly cook from scratch. Don't get me wrong, I like eating out, but it's pretty expensive.
You sound like another kindred spirit. Welcome!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Louise on July 30, 2023, 06:41:57 AM
We DIY just about everything in our house and for our vehicles. There have been a few exceptions, but it saves tens of thousands over the years.

I don't wear makeup or buy a lot of new clothes. I'm wearing an 11 year old dress right now. The style is pretty basic. I mostly cook from scratch. Don't get me wrong, I like eating out, but it's pretty expensive.
You sound like another kindred spirit. Welcome!

Thank you! We just spent the day putting new windows (one of multiple days, lol) in our enclosed porch. We replaced our single panes with insulated windows. It's an unheated space, but since the windows now open and have screens we can use it as a three season porch. It may help keep our kitchen warmer in the winter too I hope.

I'm not sure how much it would cost if we hired someone. The windows are big and they were pretty expensive. I'm guessing we saved at least $10-15K in labor. Maybe more given how expensive it is to hire someone today.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: jimmyshutter on August 06, 2023, 02:43:22 PM
I buy Tracfones when they are on sale with one year service and minutes and predominantly use wifi for calls.

My cell phone bill averages around $35.00/year.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: fuzzy math on August 06, 2023, 08:45:50 PM
I have emptied 60+ soy sauce packets back into a glass soy sauce container. But for some reason the same thing with ketchup has never occurred to me haha. Guess you guys know what I'll be doing tonight :p
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: fuzzy math on August 06, 2023, 09:45:04 PM
Reporting back an hour later that I've put 9 ketchup packets in the bottle and 11 powdered cheese packets from a pizza place into the powdered parmesan bottle. I would have done the 15 or so red pepper flakes but I can't find the spice jar.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dancin'Dog on August 07, 2023, 05:08:08 AM
Reporting back an hour later that I've put 9 ketchup packets in the bottle and 11 powdered cheese packets from a pizza place into the powdered parmesan bottle. I would have done the 15 or so red pepper flakes but I can't find the spice jar.




Don't forget about the salt, pepper, and sugar packets. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: baludon on August 07, 2023, 02:55:36 PM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: stoaX on August 08, 2023, 06:23:56 AM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.

That's an admirable combination!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on August 08, 2023, 07:15:21 AM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.

That's an admirable combination!

Or a damning indictment on the deprivation and travails necessitated by small space living.


:P
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Tass on August 08, 2023, 08:04:06 AM
That's awesome. I think more people should find fun and romance in financial planning with their spouses. It can be a great time.

We spent an afternoon on our honeymoon building out our new joint planning spreadsheet. Then we sat on the front porch with ciders watching the rain. Fun and romantic!

Interestingly, brainstorming the most frugal thing I do is just making me feel like those same choices are still luxuries I'm grateful for. We rent the smallest place we thought was reasonable in a walkable area [in a MCOL city with an extra bedroom dedicated as an office for WFH]. We share one old, dinky car [instead of getting rid of it entirely]. I use the library [cause my bookshelves are already full]. We decided not to get a dog [so we can travel more regularly].

Here's one: I love my $150 mini smartphone, which is convenient for the things I want my phone to do but just inconvenient enough for internet/social media use that it's not addictive.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Silrossi46 on August 08, 2023, 08:57:09 AM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500

Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Silrossi46 on August 08, 2023, 09:04:40 AM
I’ll add cell phones to this as well.

Xfinity cell phone = 13$ / month 1 gb data.

I have an iPhone 13 for work with a hotspot and my personal phone is always connected to my hotspot utilizing no data. Have never gone over yet in 2 years. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: fuzzy math on August 08, 2023, 11:02:43 AM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500

How do you find these vehicles?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: fuzzy math on August 08, 2023, 11:04:38 AM
Reporting back an hour later that I've put 9 ketchup packets in the bottle and 11 powdered cheese packets from a pizza place into the powdered parmesan bottle. I would have done the 15 or so red pepper flakes but I can't find the spice jar.

Don't forget about the salt, pepper, and sugar packets.

I actually don't have any of those! I did contemplate how nasty fast food ranch cups should not go in the big ranch bottle
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: baludon on August 08, 2023, 04:39:39 PM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.

That's an admirable combination!

Or a damning indictment on the deprivation and travails necessitated by small space living.


:P

Lol. I lived in 2200 sq ft apartments for several years and I would go months without going into the other bedrooms.  I find that I can live very well in a small space.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on August 08, 2023, 04:53:58 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500
Is there a Part 2 coming? We want to learn how you got free gas, oil, and parts for said vehicles. Also, how do you get free insurance and tags? Assuming you do your own maintenance, but how do you get free tools?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on August 08, 2023, 05:26:40 PM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.

That's an admirable combination!

Or a damning indictment on the deprivation and travails necessitated by small space living.


:P

Lol. I lived in 2200 sq ft apartments for several years and I would go months without going into the other bedrooms.  I find that I can live very well in a small space.

I think he was making a joke that you were saying you couldn't have coffee, alcohol or carbonated drinks because you don't have the space for them.

GuitarStv is a our beloved weirdo who yells at people A LOT that they don't need beds because they can sleep on the floor and don't need toilet paper because they can just clean their asses in the shower. He's not likely to be someone who doesn't think people can reasonably live in small spaces.

He also sometimes makes terrible jokes, lol.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: baludon on August 08, 2023, 05:50:35 PM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.

That's an admirable combination!

Or a damning indictment on the deprivation and travails necessitated by small space living.


:P

Lol. I lived in 2200 sq ft apartments for several years and I would go months without going into the other bedrooms.  I find that I can live very well in a small space.

I think he was making a joke that you were saying you couldn't have coffee, alcohol or carbonated drinks because you don't have the space for them.

GuitarStv is a our beloved weirdo who yells at people A LOT that they don't need beds because they can sleep on the floor and don't need toilet paper because they can just clean their asses in the shower. He's not likely to be someone who doesn't think people can reasonably live in small spaces.

He also sometimes makes terrible jokes, lol.

Oh. Lol. Whoosh
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on August 08, 2023, 07:00:53 PM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.

That's an admirable combination!

Or a damning indictment on the deprivation and travails necessitated by small space living.


:P

Lol. I lived in 2200 sq ft apartments for several years and I would go months without going into the other bedrooms.  I find that I can live very well in a small space.

I think he was making a joke that you were saying you couldn't have coffee, alcohol or carbonated drinks because you don't have the space for them.

GuitarStv is a our beloved weirdo who yells at people A LOT that they don't need beds because they can sleep on the floor and don't need toilet paper because they can just clean their asses in the shower. He's not likely to be someone who doesn't think people can reasonably live in small spaces.

He also sometimes makes terrible jokes, lol.

60% of the time, the jokes work every time!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on August 08, 2023, 07:18:06 PM
I live in a 375 sq ft condo. No alcohol, coffee or carbonated drinks.

That's an admirable combination!

Or a damning indictment on the deprivation and travails necessitated by small space living.


:P

Lol. I lived in 2200 sq ft apartments for several years and I would go months without going into the other bedrooms.  I find that I can live very well in a small space.

I think he was making a joke that you were saying you couldn't have coffee, alcohol or carbonated drinks because you don't have the space for them.

GuitarStv is a our beloved weirdo who yells at people A LOT that they don't need beds because they can sleep on the floor and don't need toilet paper because they can just clean their asses in the shower. He's not likely to be someone who doesn't think people can reasonably live in small spaces.

He also sometimes makes terrible jokes, lol.

60% of the time, the jokes work every time!

Facts
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Silrossi46 on August 08, 2023, 09:14:34 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500

How do you find these vehicles?

Estate sales, Facebook marketplace, Craigslist, roadside.   Im always looking.  Retirement community billboards
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Silrossi46 on August 08, 2023, 09:18:44 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500
Is there a Part 2 coming? We want to learn how you got free gas, oil, and parts for said vehicles. Also, how do you get free insurance and tags? Assuming you do your own maintenance, but how do you get free tools?



I was implying that I use profits from sales to fund all that including the price of buying the cars.  I do my own work on them so yes I am implying that my time is free I suppose.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on August 09, 2023, 01:00:49 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500
Is there a Part 2 coming? We want to learn how you got free gas, oil, and parts for said vehicles. Also, how do you get free insurance and tags? Assuming you do your own maintenance, but how do you get free tools?

I was implying that I use profits from sales to fund all that including the price of buying the cars.  I do my own work on them so yes I am implying that my time is free I suppose.

Very dodgy answer. You specifically stated:

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Davnasty on August 09, 2023, 02:06:38 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500

Impressive!

I feel like I've made some pretty good deals buying vehicles from Craigslist and jumping on an opportunity from a co-worker leaving the country but it doesn't come close to a net positive.

Did you buy cars that were in really bad shape and fix them up?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Silrossi46 on August 09, 2023, 03:24:19 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500

Impressive!

I feel like I've made some pretty good deals buying vehicles from Craigslist and jumping on an opportunity from a co-worker leaving the country but it doesn't come close to a net positive.

Did you buy cars that were in really bad shape and fix them up?

I do not buy cars in really bad shape.  I usually buy cars that are under valued and have a check engine light on but from original owners with clean histories. Usually these types of cars get listed because the owner got a huge estimate for repairs (usually from a  mechanic that inflated the work needed and the costs) and even some have tried to trade the vehicle in and the dealer gave them a ridiculous number offer for the car. Sometimes they are just under valued period and the only just listed it based on “this car has served me well and doesn’t owe me anything” and they price it low not even checking values. I carry a pocket scanner to check codes on vehicles I am attempting to buy so that I know if codes were erased and computer monitors aren’t ready and also to check codes if lights are on so I know what I am up against.  I do all of my own repairs on mostly everything.  There was a comment about tools insurance and registrations that I was confused about but I will do my best to answer.  Tools I have had in my stable for a very long time. Occasionally I have to buy something here and there and I usually deduct those from my stash pile as well.  For example recently I had to buy new ac gauges to evacuate and recharge at systems.  It was like 250 so,I deducted that from my pile.  Registrations I just factor in the sake way as well.  I have kept the same stable of 4 vehicles since before COVID since prices have gone insane post COVID and it has been harder to drum up any great deals.  There is still deals out there but harder to find and you have to act quickly and be ready with cash in hand. A lot of this comes from experience and knowledge over the years in being able to see and spot undervalued cars and grab them up quickly.  I also know a few attorneys who keep me abreast of any estate sales that they hear of where there are vehicles for sale.  That gives me a first hand shot at trying to get the vehicles before anyone else does.  I bought a low mileage Lexus es 300 4000 $ undervalued with low miles and was able to turn that very quickly into a 5000 dollar profit to add to the pile.  I just make it a game and so far is has served me well. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Silrossi46 on August 09, 2023, 03:32:15 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500
Is there a Part 2 coming? We want to learn how you got free gas, oil, and parts for said vehicles. Also, how do you get free insurance and tags? Assuming you do your own maintenance, but how do you get free tools?

I was implying that I use profits from sales to fund all that including the price of buying the cars.  I do my own work on them so yes I am implying that my time is free I suppose.

Very dodgy answer. You specifically stated:

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

I’m not trying to dodge anything.  I spend money completely from profits of cars I drove and sold for more than I paid for including using it registering it and repairing it.  In my mind that’s free.  If that doesn’t equate to your thought regarding it I can respect that but in my mind it’s free.  Am I missing something?  Fyi I mean that in the most respectful way.  I spend zero money from my w2 job or savings on vehicles. 

If rebutting that due to the fact that I spend time repairing things and of course time is money then technically yes you are correct my statement implies that my time is worth nothing.  I stand corrected.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Just Joe on August 14, 2023, 09:52:23 AM
I’m not trying to dodge anything.  I spend money completely from profits of cars I drove and sold for more than I paid for including using it registering it and repairing it.  In my mind that’s free.  If that doesn’t equate to your thought regarding it I can respect that but in my mind it’s free.  Am I missing something?  Fyi I mean that in the most respectful way.  I spend zero money from my w2 job or savings on vehicles. 

If rebutting that due to the fact that I spend time repairing things and of course time is money then technically yes you are correct my statement implies that my time is worth nothing.  I stand corrected.

Years ago when I had more time I did this as well with similar good results. These days I just keep the same car going forever. 24 year old daily driver. This weekend I spent a little time, a little money repainting some exterior plastic (extending its lifetime b/c it was bleached gray) and touching up some surface rust where the plastic time rubbed against the paint for all these years until there was just the slightest bit of rust. Cleaned it up with an air tool using a Scotchbrite pad, self-etching primer, color matched rattle can paint, and its ready to reassemble today. Takes about ~20 minutes to put the trim back together. Shouldn't need to do this again for 10-15 years.

Cost = time+~$30 in materials+tools I already owned.

I have more to do as I work my way around the car so some of that $30 worth of materials will be used elsewhere.

Meanwhile on the hobby side I do similar things with vintage vehicles. Buy it for $1500 and once its done, its worth $25K or more. I don't include my time b/c I like doing the work.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Must_ache on August 14, 2023, 11:59:14 AM
I never order drinks at restaurants.  My alcohol consumption is occasional at best and I think it is the biggest waste of money.  I love ice water and that is what I have to drink.  If I'm desperate for something else, I can wait an hour or two and have it when I get home.

I am very value conscious, despite making decent money.  It doesn't mean I am always cheap, but I ask seriously ask myself is this worth it to me?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: oneday on August 14, 2023, 02:23:44 PM
This weekend, the most frugal thing I did was recover the cat scratch post with carpet remnants from the condo I sold in 2019. Have done it enough times that I'm actually getting good looking results now!

Purchased new, on deep discount Black Friday sale, the post cost $75. So have saved at least that much each year when replacing the carpet. Or more, is you want to use the regular retail price.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on August 14, 2023, 02:42:16 PM
Drive for free for the last 15 or so years

Buy car  sell car for profit
Buy car sell car for profit

Buy next car with profit.  Drive said car documenting all expenses minus gas (including title flips and registering and taxes) Sell that car at some point for profit.

Buy next car with profit.  Ect. 

I have 4 reliable cars that have been bought  correctly with all profits of previous cars sold with enough padding in the positive direction that expenses are just deducted for profits sitting there. 

If cash pile gets low I just sell something and buy another one correctly and add to pile. 

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

Current cash pile = 4500
Is there a Part 2 coming? We want to learn how you got free gas, oil, and parts for said vehicles. Also, how do you get free insurance and tags? Assuming you do your own maintenance, but how do you get free tools?

I was implying that I use profits from sales to fund all that including the price of buying the cars.  I do my own work on them so yes I am implying that my time is free I suppose.

Very dodgy answer. You specifically stated:

That being said I generally drive for free in every sense of the word IMO.

I’m not trying to dodge anything.  I spend money completely from profits of cars I drove and sold for more than I paid for including using it registering it and repairing it.  In my mind that’s free.  If that doesn’t equate to your thought regarding it I can respect that but in my mind it’s free.  Am I missing something?  Fyi I mean that in the most respectful way.  I spend zero money from my w2 job or savings on vehicles. 

If rebutting that due to the fact that I spend time repairing things and of course time is money then technically yes you are correct my statement implies that my time is worth nothing.  I stand corrected.
I find the fact that you're deflecting my question mildly amusing. Here is what I asked you:

"Is there a Part 2 coming? We want to learn how you got free gas, oil, and parts for said vehicles. Also, how do you get free insurance and tags*? Assuming you do your own maintenance, but how do you get free tools?"
*aka registration

You seem to be ignoring the first two parts and focusing on the third, which seems a bit disingenuous. Since I wrote that in roughly the order of inportance, I've added bolding to the key words.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Gerard on August 14, 2023, 03:11:46 PM
The most frugal thing I did this week was wave goodbye to spendy relatives as they return to their home country!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Just Joe on August 14, 2023, 03:21:57 PM
When I was flipping cars years ago I was generally making enough money to cover any new tools (many last a lifetime), insurance, parts, etc. Can't nail down my profits to the cent all these years later b/c I wasn't tracking it that closely but I do think I was covering all my expenses including fuel with the profits.

I'd buy a car in the low hundreds and sell it for a couple of thousand and driving it for a year. Sometimes I could chain the buys/sells together.

Bought a grocery getter car for $150, minor repairs and drove it for over a year. Traded it directly for a small car that needed some cheap repairs ($150), drove it about a year and sold it for about $1200.  Repeat, wash and rinse. This was ~30 years ago.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: BlueHouse on August 14, 2023, 04:52:11 PM
I'm not the most frugal person, but the one area I am good at is entertainment.
My entertainment revolves around free events around town.  I go to museums a lot (just pop-in and pop-out whenever because they are free here).   I scour the free event sites to find lectures, workshops, concerts, etc that are free AND often have free refreshments (sometimes even beer & wine).   Because I'm always on the lookout for cool free things to do, I do so many things I wouldn't otherwise do.  For instance, in the next month, I'll:

* see a few different free concerts at multiple locations.  Some will allow outside food/drink and some I'll buy refreshments
* attend some art openings and gallery talks
* participate in a writing workshop at the National Portrait Gallery
* see Bob Costas and Bob Wilton talk about...sports something (not something I'd ordinarily do, but hey, it's free...why not?)
* go on a big group bike ride with a police escort through intersections
* Learn about desegregation of "Jim Crow" airports with a former congressman who worked on the legislation at the Air and Space Museum
* Join a watch party for World Cup hosted by DC United
* See a film screening at the Argentine Embassy
* Attend a screening of the 60th Anniversary of the March on Washington at the National Archives
* Join a birding tour on a boat on the river
* Play Burl Ives' guitar at the Library of Congress   (yeah, just like Lizzo and the flute, only I'm just a nobody and they're letting me play it) 

When I look at the events on my calendar, I wonder what do people do for entertainment who don't actively look for free stuff. 


Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: baludon on August 14, 2023, 05:38:12 PM
I'm not the most frugal person, but the one area I am good at is entertainment.
My entertainment revolves around free events around town.  I go to museums a lot (just pop-in and pop-out whenever because they are free here).   I scour the free event sites to find lectures, workshops, concerts, etc that are free AND often have free refreshments (sometimes even beer & wine).   Because I'm always on the lookout for cool free things to do, I do so many things I wouldn't otherwise do.  For instance, in the next month, I'll:

* see a few different free concerts at multiple locations.  Some will allow outside food/drink and some I'll buy refreshments
* attend some art openings and gallery talks
* participate in a writing workshop at the National Portrait Gallery
* see Bob Costas and Bob Wilton talk about...sports something (not something I'd ordinarily do, but hey, it's free...why not?)
* go on a big group bike ride with a police escort through intersections
* Learn about desegregation of "Jim Crow" airports with a former congressman who worked on the legislation at the Air and Space Museum
* Join a watch party for World Cup hosted by DC United
* See a film screening at the Argentine Embassy
* Attend a screening of the 60th Anniversary of the March on Washington at the National Archives
* Join a birding tour on a boat on the river
* Play Burl Ives' guitar at the Library of Congress   (yeah, just like Lizzo and the flute, only I'm just a nobody and they're letting me play it) 

When I look at the events on my calendar, I wonder what do people do for entertainment who don't actively look for free stuff.

I would need a vacation afterwards if I were to do these events within a month.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Cadman on August 14, 2023, 05:44:41 PM
If you're handy, and you don't mind getting your hands dirty, then it's absolutely possible to buy old cars, drive the wheels off them, and sell them (or part them out when the rust takes over) for more than the purchase price+fuel+maintenance+insurance. The one time that didn't work out was 20+ years ago when I let a 1989 Troféo go "for cheap" because I was running out of garage space, and it bothers me to this day.

Now, if you're factoring in your time, that's a different story. But since I'm FIRE'd, and enjoy occasional wrenching, it's all gravy these days.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Silrossi46 on August 14, 2023, 08:36:16 PM
When I was flipping cars years ago I was generally making enough money to cover any new tools (many last a lifetime), insurance, parts, etc. Can't nail down my profits to the cent all these years later b/c I wasn't tracking it that closely but I do think I was covering all my expenses including fuel with the profits.

I'd buy a car in the low hundreds and sell it for a couple of thousand and driving it for a year. Sometimes I could chain the buys/sells together.

Bought a grocery getter car for $150, minor repairs and drove it for over a year. Traded it directly for a small car that needed some cheap repairs ($150), drove it about a year and sold it for about $1200.  Repeat, wash and rinse. This was ~30 years ago.

Yup this 100%.  You probably explained it more to the liking of those that seem to not get it. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Loretta on August 15, 2023, 05:23:49 AM
I put my physical library card in my wallet so I can visit the library after work and check out their wares.  I sold a pet ramp on Fb for $25 but the chair I listed remains in my living room due to flaky flakes flaking out on me. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: StarBright on August 15, 2023, 06:25:14 AM

* Play Burl Ives' guitar at the Library of Congress   (yeah, just like Lizzo and the flute, only I'm just a nobody and they're letting me play it) 



That is random but also super cool! I grew up listening to my mom's old LPs which included Burl Ives Disney movie soundtracks and this made me smile!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: RetiredAt63 on August 15, 2023, 07:29:05 AM
I put my physical library card in my wallet so I can visit the library after work and check out their wares.  I sold a pet ramp on Fb for $25 but the chair I listed remains in my living room due to flaky flakes flaking out on me.

My library card lives in my wallet.  I have saved so much money since I moved back to areas with good public libraries.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: LaineyAZ on August 15, 2023, 08:00:06 AM
I have to add one nitpick about always getting entertainment from free/reduced passes.  Yes, most museums or public gardens have some time set aside for free or donation-only attendance. 

However I strongly believe that if you want to see those institutions continue in your community than it's a worthwhile investment to become a paying member.  It's likely only $50-$70/year and helps ensure their financial stability.  If we here on MMM can afford to travel, buy better quality food, remodel our homes, etc., then we can afford to help maintain the places we love so events can continue to be enjoyed by all.

It's a ripple effect - it creates jobs, promotes creativity, and overall enhances our lives.  Let's not just grift on the generosity of others for our invaluable public institutions.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dancin'Dog on August 15, 2023, 09:12:51 AM
I have to add one nitpick about always getting entertainment from free/reduced passes.  Yes, most museums or public gardens have some time set aside for free or donation-only attendance. 

However I strongly believe that if you want to see those institutions continue in your community than it's a worthwhile investment to become a paying member.  It's likely only $50-$70/year and helps ensure their financial stability.  If we here on MMM can afford to travel, buy better quality food, remodel our homes, etc., then we can afford to help maintain the places we love so events can continue to be enjoyed by all.

It's a ripple effect - it creates jobs, promotes creativity, and overall enhances our lives.  Let's not just grift on the generosity of others for our invaluable public institutions.




I always assumed collectors loaned, leased, or donated artworks to museums to help ensure the values of their collections increased.  Isn't that how the high-end art world works?  Few things are truly "priceless", but many are marketed as such. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: LifeHappens on August 15, 2023, 09:40:43 AM
I have recently started making oatmilk to use in my coffee. I estimate my cost at $0.50 per week, so much less than purchasing oat or cow's milk and I know exactly what I'm drinking.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: BlueHouse on August 15, 2023, 10:01:28 AM
I have to add one nitpick about always getting entertainment from free/reduced passes.  Yes, most museums or public gardens have some time set aside for free or donation-only attendance. 

However I strongly believe that if you want to see those institutions continue in your community than it's a worthwhile investment to become a paying member.  It's likely only $50-$70/year and helps ensure their financial stability.  If we here on MMM can afford to travel, buy better quality food, remodel our homes, etc., then we can afford to help maintain the places we love so events can continue to be enjoyed by all.

It's a ripple effect - it creates jobs, promotes creativity, and overall enhances our lives.  Let's not just grift on the generosity of others for our invaluable public institutions.

I think most people understand the social norms of giving back when you receive great benefit from something. 

I live in DC.  Most museums are free because a portion of their funding comes from public appropriations.  Please, come and learn about the history of the museums and how the funding works!   And thanks to everyone for contributing to the preservation of all the artifacts! I also donate both my time and money to some of the organizations that I spend the most time in (Smithsonian, Library of Congress).  The more you frequent museums, the more you realize that they are a vital service to the public -- they should be free to everyone using PUBLIC FUNDS so that a few billionaires can't decide what to preserve and what not to.  Many small donations from individuals are also a great guarantee that politicians don't defund important archival duties to protect a few rotten politicians. 

The greatest thing about always-free entrance at museums is that as a neighbor, I can pop-in for an hour or two at a time, so I do it often.  I don't have the attention span or physical stamina to stand around at museums for entire days, so I think the cities that charge for entry end up with people who feel they HAVE TO get their money's worth.  I also don't begrudge the 20 million tourists that DC attracts each year.  Their use of our local-taxpayer-provided roads, bridges, etc is welcome as they visit the free monuments and museums and support our businesses. 

Many of the nighttime events are philanthropic lectures, designed to ensure the public can learn about topics that the philanthropist thought was important for people to know about.  And always remember the difference between charity and philanthropy:  Philanthropy is a business transaction, because someone's name is attached to it. So I don't feel the least bit guilty about attending the Sackler Galleries. 

I probably spout off about the value of these museums more than anyone I know.  I am thrilled to live in such close proximity to all of these resources.  My taxes over the past decade MORE than make up for the small footprint I place on these institutions.  I want everyone to get as much out of these places as I do.

ETA:  There are a TON of virtual events that people can participate in too (learning to draw, etc).  I highly recommend ALL of the events and courses for everyone   https://www.si.edu/events/online (https://www.si.edu/events/online)


   
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: BlueHouse on August 15, 2023, 10:38:49 AM
I have to add one nitpick about always getting entertainment from free/reduced passes.  Yes, most museums or public gardens have some time set aside for free or donation-only attendance. 

However I strongly believe that if you want to see those institutions continue in your community than it's a worthwhile investment to become a paying member.  It's likely only $50-$70/year and helps ensure their financial stability.  If we here on MMM can afford to travel, buy better quality food, remodel our homes, etc., then we can afford to help maintain the places we love so events can continue to be enjoyed by all.

It's a ripple effect - it creates jobs, promotes creativity, and overall enhances our lives.  Let's not just grift on the generosity of others for our invaluable public institutions.




I always assumed collectors loaned, leased, or donated artworks to museums to help ensure the values of their collections increased.  Isn't that how the high-end art world works?  Few things are truly "priceless", but many are marketed as such.

yes, often.  They also get marketing for their names or brands.  And remember the Sacklers got off-hours entry and business offices and meeting rooms, not to mention huge tax breaks.  They also get their collections insured, stored, displayed, and protected on someone else's dime.  Philanthropy is ALWAYS a business transaction.  It's not charity. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dicey on August 15, 2023, 11:46:39 AM
I have to add one nitpick about always getting entertainment from free/reduced passes.  Yes, most museums or public gardens have some time set aside for free or donation-only attendance. 

However I strongly believe that if you want to see those institutions continue in your community than it's a worthwhile investment to become a paying member.  It's likely only $50-$70/year and helps ensure their financial stability.  If we here on MMM can afford to travel, buy better quality food, remodel our homes, etc., then we can afford to help maintain the places we love so events can continue to be enjoyed by all.

It's a ripple effect - it creates jobs, promotes creativity, and overall enhances our lives.  Let's not just grift on the generosity of others for our invaluable public institutions.
I agree completely! My favorite hack is buying memberships at charity auctions. The membership donor gets great exposure for very little cost, and the host group gets $$ for their cause. Then I bring guests, so they can get to know the institution and potentially become guests themselves.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Just Joe on August 15, 2023, 02:14:57 PM
I put my physical library card in my wallet so I can visit the library after work and check out their wares.  I sold a pet ramp on Fb for $25 but the chair I listed remains in my living room due to flaky flakes flaking out on me.

We just gave away a couch b/c flaky flakes couldn't be trusted to come when they said they would. So we gave it to some young folks from work who definitely needed it.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: oneday on August 15, 2023, 10:13:49 PM
I put my physical library card in my wallet so I can visit the library after work and check out their wares.

I once found myself at the library with no card in my wallet*, and a librarian helped me check out a book anyway, just using my ID. Don't let a missing library card hold you back!



*removed for a prior vacation and not yet put back
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on August 16, 2023, 04:06:16 AM
Y'all don't have your library cards on your phones? If your library doesn't have digital cards, just write down your card number in a note.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on August 16, 2023, 07:39:33 AM
I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Metalcat on August 16, 2023, 08:03:40 AM
I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.

How did I not know that you don't have a cell phone??
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on August 16, 2023, 08:27:08 AM
I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.

How did I not know that you don't have a cell phone??

This cell phone fad is going to end soon and you'll all feel so foolish . . .
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: TreeLeaf on August 16, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.

How did I not know that you don't have a cell phone??

This cell phone fad is going to end soon and you'll all feel so foolish . . .

Lol....

I felt this way also until I needed an app to login for work, and an app to login to my banking website, and an app to even buy movie tickets at the local movie theatre (they have no employees there to buy tickets, or check tickets, and no self checkout even - all is on the app), etc, etc.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Zikoris on August 16, 2023, 09:00:29 AM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: RetiredAt63 on August 16, 2023, 09:41:44 AM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

My library card is too long to memorize.   ;-)

I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.

How did I not know that you don't have a cell phone??

This cell phone fad is going to end soon and you'll all feel so foolish . . .

Lol....

I felt this way also until I needed an app to login for work, and an app to login to my banking website, and an app to even buy movie tickets at the local movie theatre (they have no employees there to buy tickets, or check tickets, and no self checkout even - all is on the app), etc, etc.

I've gone the other direction.  I gave up my landline and only have a cell phone.  No camera, no address book, no notepad, no calculator - my phone takes up so much less space than all the things I used to have in my purse oh, about 40 years ago.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Tass on August 16, 2023, 10:47:10 AM
I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.

How did I not know that you don't have a cell phone??

This cell phone fad is going to end soon and you'll all feel so foolish . . .

Lol....

I felt this way also until I needed an app to login for work, and an app to login to my banking website, and an app to even buy movie tickets at the local movie theatre (they have no employees there to buy tickets, or check tickets, and no self checkout even - all is on the app), etc, etc.

I don't know about your work login, but the functionality of most other apps can be replicated on a computer screen.

The one I haven't figured out yet is mobile check deposit. I made a phone call trying to explain to Ally that their app wouldn't let me log in because it wasn't designed for the 1.5"-wide screen of my mini smartphone. (Cost: <$150.) But that's rare enough that it's not a big deal.

I'm the person still asking restaurants with QR codes if they have paper menus in the back. (Sometimes they do, sometimes not.) I refuse to carry a cell phone with an internet browser; it was bad for me when I did.

Resist designing society around universal adoption of a luxury product!
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Zikoris on August 16, 2023, 11:45:45 AM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

My library card is too long to memorize.   ;-)

Mine is 14 digits long, are there really libraries with longer library card numbers than that? Do they have freakishly long cards to fit it all?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Raenia on August 16, 2023, 11:52:05 AM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

My library card is too long to memorize.   ;-)

Mine is 14 digits long, are there really libraries with longer library card numbers than that? Do they have freakishly long cards to fit it all?

No, they just make the font size smaller and smaller.

I don't see the point in memorizing my library card number, since the self check out doesn't have any way to type it in - it's just hooked up to a scanner, no keyboard or mouse. If I don't have my card to scan, I can go to the main desk, but they require you to show ID to prove you're the person on the account if you don't have the physical card. They won't take just the number.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Kris on August 16, 2023, 12:05:01 PM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

Yep, me too.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on August 16, 2023, 12:10:27 PM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

Yep, me too.

It's so much faster and easier to scan the card than punch in the number that I've never tried manual entry.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: RetiredAt63 on August 16, 2023, 12:12:22 PM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

Yep, me too.

I've moved so much lately I am saving all my spare brain memory space for postal codes.    ;-)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Kris on August 16, 2023, 12:13:01 PM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

Yep, me too.

It's so much faster and easier to scan the card than punch in the number that I've never tried manual entry.

I guess that depends on the person. It's faster for me to type it in than to take out my card, scan it, and put it away.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on August 16, 2023, 12:15:24 PM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

Yep, me too.

It's so much faster and easier to scan the card than punch in the number that I've never tried manual entry.

I guess that depends on the person. It's faster for me to type it in than to take out my card, scan it, and put it away.

Protip - tattoo the bar code on your forehead to avoid fussing with cards OR typing.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: jeninco on August 16, 2023, 02:50:10 PM
You guys don't memorize your library card numbers? Half the time I'm too lazy to get out my wallet and just punch it in from memory. My boyfriend about 90% of the time.

Yep, me too.

It's so much faster and easier to scan the card than punch in the number that I've never tried manual entry.

I guess that depends on the person. It's faster for me to type it in than to take out my card, scan it, and put it away.

Protip - tattoo the bar code on your forehead to avoid fussing with cards OR typing.

Hand. Can you see your own forehead?
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dancin'Dog on August 16, 2023, 03:06:45 PM
I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.

How did I not know that you don't have a cell phone??


If he did have a cell phone, you'd have known he'd never lose it under the bed. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Dancin'Dog on August 16, 2023, 03:17:18 PM
I'm not going to buy a cell phone just so I can use my library card, and the cord on our home phone won't stretch far enough.

How did I not know that you don't have a cell phone??

This cell phone fad is going to end soon and you'll all feel so foolish . . .

Lol....

I felt this way also until I needed an app to login for work, and an app to login to my banking website, and an app to even buy movie tickets at the local movie theatre (they have no employees there to buy tickets, or check tickets, and no self checkout even - all is on the app), etc, etc.

I don't know about your work login, but the functionality of most other apps can be replicated on a computer screen.

The one I haven't figured out yet is mobile check deposit. I made a phone call trying to explain to Ally that their app wouldn't let me log in because it wasn't designed for the 1.5"-wide screen of my mini smartphone. (Cost: <$150.) But that's rare enough that it's not a big deal.

I'm the person still asking restaurants with QR codes if they have paper menus in the back. (Sometimes they do, sometimes not.) I refuse to carry a cell phone with an internet browser; it was bad for me when I did.

Resist designing society around universal adoption of a luxury product!
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What about the restaurants that refuse to accept cash?  I'm not sure that was even legal until C-19 made cash a dirty thing.  I'm surprised the anti-vaxxers didn't blame the CC companies for the pandemic so they could force CC payments on everyone.   (Obviously, none of them were bright enough to notice the profit motive.)
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: GuitarStv on August 16, 2023, 03:43:45 PM
What about the restaurants that refuse to accept cash?

Debit, credit, and cheques do not require a cell phone.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: MinouMinou on August 16, 2023, 08:45:45 PM
I love this thread! Reading through back pages. I do a lot of them: library, default not buying things, walk/bike/jog to work, neighborhood gleaning then preserving of ignored fruit like apples, blackberries, figs. Line dry in summer. I stop by my local natural food store and get the 50% off distressed veggies on the regular. I make a lot of gifts by knitting nice things out of thrifted yarn.

The weirdest one though, I do not admit to many people, but this feels like a safe space. :)  We use home-sewn flannel "tinkle towels" (only for urine) and also follow the "if it's mellow, let it yellow" adage to save water (and collect shower water in bucket to flush). It's more for environmental than frugal reasons, but the two go so nicely hand in hand.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Siebrie on August 17, 2023, 06:57:26 AM
We bought e-bikes for husband and me with eco-vouchers (€250/year for each of us, Belgian government scheme, taxfree through employer, vouchers valid for 2 years) with a discount voucher at a DIY store. The e-bikes were €1,200 each, bought 3 years apart. I'm registered at work as 'cycling to work', which gives me tax exempt commuter re-imbursement per km; I make €900/year :).

Husband has a company car (and fuel card) he can use privately, which is counted by the taxman as adding €140/month to his gross pay, but the tax he has to pay is reimbursed by his employer. We use his car whenever we need to ride somewhere.

We do own a second car, a fire engine red Kia Picanto, which does less than 3,000km/year and is on a cheap insurance plan. I bought it off my parents for half the recommended resale price when they bought my Aunt's car when my Uncle died and she wasn't confident enough to continue driving. We have a car mechanic friend who does the yearly maintenance for just product price and a family meal with us. I have a reminder in my phone for the annual mandatory check, to make the appointment with the vehicle inspection centre on time, because by the time I receive the alert card (3 weeks before the expiry date), all decent appointment slots are full and I have to pay €15 more for being late.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: dignam on August 17, 2023, 08:25:45 AM
I'm not overly frugal, but I do try to tackle home and auto repairs myself.  I don't buy lots of crap, but I will spend more to get high quality items I use frequently (PC components, tools, pots/pans).

I'm also not big on taking extravagant vacations.  I've been out of the country 4 times in my life, and 3 of those trips I stayed in North America.  So many free and so many (cheap, with state park pass) places to see just in my state, which I've lately come to appreciate its geographic diversity.  The US is big and there is an abundance of places to visit.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Ladychips on August 17, 2023, 10:13:20 AM
I think the most frugal thing I do is not caring about other peoples lifestyles and/or expectations. I just live in a way that makes me happy and let other people do the same.  I also don't spend money mindlessly. Sometimes I am not frugal...but its always a conscious choice, not habit or neglect.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Just Joe on August 17, 2023, 03:37:11 PM
Not motivated by "but its old" or "it is broken". Well I'm motivated to repair things if they break. Motivated to maintain the appearance of things whose appearance is important to me like my car. A little cleaning or polishing goes a long way. So does a bit of spray paint when the the exterior plastic bleaches out gray or the trailer hitch starts to rust.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: BlueHouse on August 17, 2023, 04:12:55 PM
I'm not the most frugal person, but the one area I am good at is entertainment.
My entertainment revolves around free events around town.  I go to museums a lot (just pop-in and pop-out whenever because they are free here).   I scour the free event sites to find lectures, workshops, concerts, etc that are free AND often have free refreshments (sometimes even beer & wine).   Because I'm always on the lookout for cool free things to do, I do so many things I wouldn't otherwise do.  For instance, in the next month, I'll:

* see a few different free concerts at multiple locations.  Some will allow outside food/drink and some I'll buy refreshments
* attend some art openings and gallery talks
* participate in a writing workshop at the National Portrait Gallery
* see Bob Costas and Bob Wilton talk about...sports something (not something I'd ordinarily do, but hey, it's free...why not?)
* go on a big group bike ride with a police escort through intersections
* Learn about desegregation of "Jim Crow" airports with a former congressman who worked on the legislation at the Air and Space Museum
* Join a watch party for World Cup hosted by DC United
* See a film screening at the Argentine Embassy
* Attend a screening of the 60th Anniversary of the March on Washington at the National Archives
* Join a birding tour on a boat on the river
* Play Burl Ives' guitar at the Library of Congress   (yeah, just like Lizzo and the flute, only I'm just a nobody and they're letting me play it) 

When I look at the events on my calendar, I wonder what do people do for entertainment who don't actively look for free stuff.

I would need a vacation afterwards if I were to do these events within a month.

Well, everyday is vacation for me, because I fired in 2021!  It's not as hard as it seems, because I usually just walk to these things.  That makes them seem like it's just part of my daily life, and not "events".   Back when I was working, it was hard for me to get motivated to do anything after a day at the office. 
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: Fire enthusiast on August 18, 2023, 07:14:29 AM
1. Simplified diet.
I don't order takeout and almost don't eat out. The purpose of my daily meal is to provide my body with the energy it needs, not a gourmet meal. I did this initially to lose weight and then I realized I was saving almost $300 a month. Remember: drink water instead of beverages! Not only does it save you money but it's also good for your health!
2. Share it with your roommate.
I just purchased a rice cooker last week with my two roommates. It cost us $30. We only paid an average of $10 per person. If we don't live together anymore after two years, we'll sell it on a second-hand website. I'm guessing it will sell for $15. That would only cost us $5 per person to use the rice cooker for 2 years! However, it is important to note that you should use it carefully to ensure that you can sell it a second time.
Title: Re: What's the most frugal thing you do?
Post by: eyesonthehorizon on August 19, 2023, 11:13:40 PM
My actually most frugal choices are earlier in the thread but I have a new one. With the unusually brutal heat this summer I have hit a limit on how much plain water I can enjoy drinking.

I recently found certain blond fruit-forward coffees shaken with ice to chill yield both a chilled coffee shot for morning latte purposes & a surprisingly palatable coffee-perfumed water from the reserved ice melt. I have also taken to drinking the water I use to rinse the blender after fruit smoothies. Each ends up with a nice aromatic component & preserves the enjoyment of the chilled water used to make the initial drinks. I have joked that it's homemade flat La Croix (having never tried La Croix.)