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Venting about a Fucking Idiot Boss at Work
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:20:15 PM »
I work in government, and am in an office where pretty much everyone is a GS14/15. There are a handful of 11's, and then a few 5-7's, but pretty much everyone is top-of-the-heap. I am an 11 (better than some, but looked down upon by most).

A particular 15 who is not very bright got a management slot and 1 day last week was the person I had to report to. I handed in 2 very easy things for his approval - a form letter where I just changed the address and date, and a signed document from someone.

3 days later the dumb bastard makes a ton of corrections to the form letter, and rejects the signed document saying it didn't have certain information (it was clearly approved before going out to be signed).

So I take them back and just re-submit as-is to the guy I normally report to.

It comes back to me because [incorrect] CHANGES WERE RECOMMENDED, which I ignored. The new manager comes to me and says that he made suggestions, and he's a manager.

I said, "I've done it that way for 2 years. It's the way it's done."

"But you can't just ignore changes I make."

"I normally wouldn't have, but you also sent back the signed document that..."

"That's unrelated," he told me.

Unrelated. He was completely wrong on both things, so I ignored him, but the reference to his pattern or being wrong is unrelated to the other thing.

I "corrected" the letter, and then made some overdue doctor's appointments for the rest of the week. I might also be sick on Monday.

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Re: Venting about a Fucking Idiot Boss at Work
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2019, 12:32:44 PM »
The Federal Government is a big place. USAJOBS is your friend.

I have done a decent job of getting the applications out there. 2 interviews so far this year for 12/13 positions.

I'm also looking at PhD programs in case I want to teach FT when i FIRE in 11 years.

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Re: Venting about a Fucking Idiot Boss at Work
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2019, 12:39:15 PM »
Sounds like my boss.  Hence my desire to find a new job and look forward to retirement.

OP, chin up though as I think 98% of us have worked with someone like that before.  I used to try to argue my point but as I get older, I just agree and do it their way.  In the end they are paying me to be inefficient (like your example of having to redo a from letter) but hey, its their money and budget so who am I to argue?

Years ago I would have made it a big issue, now I am just there to keep my head down and collect a pay check.

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Re: Venting about a Fucking Idiot Boss at Work
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2019, 12:52:10 PM »
Don't worry he'll probably just go into coast mode in the next couple of months once he gets over the "I'm the big boss" phase

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Re: Venting about a Fucking Idiot Boss at Work
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2019, 02:22:39 PM »
The Federal Government is a big place. USAJOBS is your friend.

I have done a decent job of getting the applications out there. 2 interviews so far this year for 12/13 positions.

I'm also looking at PhD programs in case I want to teach FT when i FIRE in 11 years.

That’s some good news! The best way to deal with silliness is to move on. Employers who want to retain talent will modify their practices to do so.

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Re: Venting about a Fucking Idiot Boss at Work
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2019, 03:35:45 PM »
Hey, this is a bit off topic, but I've got a question about those jobs listed on USAJOBS (since someone mentioned it up-thread.)

The last time I checked --

I saw many jobs listed on that site, but the job descriptions (that I encountered) were very vague on what exactly they are looking for.  There was little in the way of skills or technologies listed, and the names of the duties and the positions were very general and non-descriptive. 

Just for kicks, I applied to several jobs that were related to my field, where I thought I technically met the requirements (the vague ones that were listed, at least.)
In every single case, I never heard anything back, until many many months (or years) later to hear that my application wasn't accepted.  (Not sure of what the actual verbiage of the rejections were, because it's been way too long.)  But never a follow-up or an inquiry for clarification or anything.

I understand there are probably many many applicants for those jobs.  But it's a larger black-box than normal in terms of applying for jobs, in my experience.  You don't even know what exactly you are applying for in a lot of cases!

How does one even go about getting one of those jobs?  Are they mainly there as semi-internal postings for people who already have a federal job in order to hop to a new position?  Or for a federal employee to hire one of their friends/family into a position -- while still "ticking the box" that the position was "publicly open for applicants"?

I'm genuinely curious.  This was my experience from many years ago, and I never found out what the deal was.  At this stage in my career, I'm almost already FIRE so I probably wouldn't ever apply again for one of those... But if someone can give me some insight, please let me know!

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Re: Venting about a Fucking Idiot Boss at Work
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2019, 07:53:31 PM »
Hey, this is a bit off topic, but I've got a question about those jobs listed on USAJOBS..............the job descriptions (that I encountered) were very vague ..............there are probably many many applicants for those jobs.................How does one even go about getting one of those jobs?  Are they mainly there as semi-internal postings for people who already have a federal job in order to hop to a new position?  Or for a federal employee to hire one of their friends/family into a position -- while still "ticking the box" that the position was "publicly open for applicants"?

When making a resume, I go to the "duties" for the posting, copy/paste them to the end of my Word doc, and incorporate them into the jobs I've had.

You're right. There are many applicants. Sometimes people are able to hire the person they know. I once got to the interview stage to be a CFO, but was pretty sure they already had their pick as they tried to insist on a phone interview.

My wife had a manager who said that when he interviewed to be a manager, the interviewer concluded the meeting by saying "say hi to your mom for me." Now, he had to have met the minimum requirements to make it to the interview stage, but there was obvious favoritism from his mom's 30 years of service.

When you're on the inside you can network, and who you know helps.

Up to a certain level, veterans have a preference, especially disabled vets. But sometimes, the only thing that matters is being in the previous pay grade for a year. I once applied for a grade 7 job, and was told I didn't meet the minimum standard. I had to call bullshit, because I had an MBA, and worked in the civilian field at a much higher level. But, I had not been a grade 6 employee for a year.

Hope this helps.

ONE LAST THING: If you join the service when you are 55, you qualify for a pension with just 5 years of service. It's tiny (1% x years x salary), but it's one more income source. And if you want to work, why not consider it. I've also heard some school systems do this, too.