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« on: August 24, 2016, 10:40:56 AM »
Hi Everyone,

My girlfriend and I are in the beginning stages of planning a vacation around February of next year and I wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions or personal recommendations on where to go. We are looking to take a trip outside the US and are pretty open to anything as long as the weather will be warm (80ish). We are both very active, outdoorsy, and love exploring new areas.

Thanks in advance for all of your help.

Basic Trip Info Breakdown:
  • Duration - 7-10 days
  • Budget - $3,000 including flights
  • Activites - hiking, sightseeing, boating, general outdoor activities

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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 10:54:45 AM »
I'm taking my family snorkeling in Bonaire this winter.  Maybe you can check it out too!  One of the few affordable islands in the Caribbean.

Thanks for the suggestion, I had never heard of Bonaire  before this. We will definitely do some research on this.

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2016, 11:08:40 AM »
I went to the sand dunes in Huacachina in Peru a couple years ago in February.  It was awesome.   Lima was also cool if you like big cities.  Both are warm in Feb. 

Some other places that sound cool but haven't yet visited:
Cartagena and Tayrona NP in Colombia
Oaxaca and/or Chiapas
Guanajuato
Rio de Janeiro (not exactly obscure, might be less budget friendly)
Cabo Polonio in Uruguay

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2016, 11:25:17 AM »
I went to the sand dunes in Huacachina in Peru a couple years ago in February.  It was awesome.   Lima was also cool if you like big cities.  Both are warm in Feb. 

Some other places that sound cool but haven't yet visited:
Cartagena and Tayrona NP in Colombia
Oaxaca and/or Chiapas
Guanajuato
Rio de Janeiro (not exactly obscure, might be less budget friendly)
Cabo Polonio in Uruguay

How long did you stay in Huacachina and what did you do while you were there? How did you get around, is public transportation adequate?

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2016, 11:25:36 AM »
There are loads of places in Asia, but with only 7-10 days I'd stick to the Americas (and probably northern half of S.A.):
* Cuba
* Honduras -Bay Islands
* Belize - beaches & mayan temples
* Ecuador - Amazon jungle with Quito
* Panama - Bocas del Toro or San Blas
* Costa Rica - natural place, big on hiking
* Colombia - Tayrona & Cartegena, or Cali up to Salento, or around Bogota & Manzales - big country so pick an area
* Baja California and or Copper Canyon

Most of these places are greatly enhanced if you have some basic Spanish skills.
Carnival is Feb 27-28 so maybe pick a lessor place for that than Rio  (I did Carnival in Bolivia one year & it was amazing).

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2016, 11:36:29 AM »
There are loads of places in Asia, but with only 7-10 days I'd stick to the Americas (and probably northern half of S.A.):
* Cuba
* Honduras -Bay Islands
* Belize - beaches & mayan temples
* Ecuador - Amazon jungle with Quito
* Panama - Bocas del Toro or San Blas
* Costa Rica - natural place, big on hiking
* Colombia - Tayrona & Cartegena, or Cali up to Salento, or around Bogota & Manzales - big country so pick an area
* Baja California and or Copper Canyon

Most of these places are greatly enhanced if you have some basic Spanish skills.
Carnival is Feb 27-28 so maybe pick a lessor place for that than Rio  (I did Carnival in Bolivia one year & it was amazing).

Thanks for the list to check out JoJo. I don't really have any Spanish skills but I do have about 5 months to work on it.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2016, 04:04:07 PM »
I went to the sand dunes in Huacachina in Peru a couple years ago in February.  It was awesome.   Lima was also cool if you like big cities.  Both are warm in Feb. 

Some other places that sound cool but haven't yet visited:
Cartagena and Tayrona NP in Colombia
Oaxaca and/or Chiapas
Guanajuato
Rio de Janeiro (not exactly obscure, might be less budget friendly)
Cabo Polonio in Uruguay

How long did you stay in Huacachina and what did you do while you were there? How did you get around, is public transportation adequate?

I stayed in Huacachina for 3 days, a little over a week total in Peru.  I went sandboarding.  I wasn't very good at it, but it was still super fun.  You can also go out deeper into the desert in a dune buggy, tour one of the Pisco vinyards, see the Nazca Lines, or take a boat out to the Ballestas Islands.  I didn't have the time, though.  Seafood is great on the coast, and Huacachina is right next to a major irrigated agricultural area that grows asparagus, mangoes, and avocados as well as the Pisco grapes.  I could have easily spent a week. 

Public transport is good in Peru.  The 200 mile Bus ride from Lima to Ica was 31 sols/person (~$10) in literally a Mercedes bus.  Huacachina is only 3 miles from Ica.  The Metropolitana BRT line in Lima is really nice (aside from being in the middle of a freeway). 

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2016, 04:13:32 PM »
I'm taking my family snorkeling in Bonaire this winter.  Maybe you can check it out too!  One of the few affordable islands in the Caribbean.

Thanks for the suggestion, I had never heard of Bonaire  before this. We will definitely do some research on this.

I love Bonaire - but it's for a very particular type of traveler.  It's a very small island and it's very laid back.  The islands' biggest draw is it's amazing reefs, which are the healthiest in all the Caribbean... diving & snorkling are the primary activity.  Outside of this, there's some arid hiking along the fairly small national park and a number of small bars around small beaches.  No huge resorts and no big bar scene (there are bars of course, but it's absolutely nothing like Cancun or Miami or Cabo).

If you like diving or snorkling, definitely go to Bonaire.  If those don't excite you (or if you want more clubs, excitement, restaurants, etc) go elsewhere.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2016, 05:16:37 PM »
I second all of the Central/South America suggestions. Flights to Central America, in particular, are relatively cheap and fast, and there's little to no jet lag. That will help you not waste your vacation time flying or being jet lagged. (Asia is great, but it's a bit far for a week.) Very nice hotel rooms can be had for $50 (or adequate ones for much less), and meals are equally cheap.

It's always nice to know the language where you're going, but in this case it's not 100% necessary. I've been working on teaching myself Spanish, but I knew nothing when I first went to that part of the world, and I was fine. Smiles and gestures can get you a long way, and a lot of people know some English. Even if you just learn a few words, people will appreciate your effort.

If you'd like to stick to an English-speaking place, try Belize or Roatan. Everyone speaks English in Belize. Roatan is an island off the coast of Honduras that was originally primarily English-speaking, having been settled by former African slaves (and pirates!, whose white descendants are still there -- ran into some at a restaurant and it was the most surreal thing), but now has more mainland Honduras (and therefore Spanish-speaking) influence. But still lots of English there. Roatan has, as you might expect, mostly beach-related activities. Stay in West End (local, cheap), not West Bay (touristy, expensive), but take a taxi (or hitchhike) over the West Bay to swim in their beautiful beaches and feed scraps to the reef fish. Drink Monkey La-Las. In Belize, I've done a surf-and-turf week twice, and I loved it both times. A few days on Caye Caulker (small island with no cars, mon) and a few days in San Ignacio (jumping-off point for hiking, spelunking, river tubing, etc.). On Caye Caulker, do a snorkeling trip to Hol Chan Marine Reserve and Shark/Ray Alley with Raggamuffin Tours. And go to the bar at the Split (where the island literally split in half years ago) and the I & I Bar -- even if you don't drink, it's just a fun place to people-watch.

Guatemala is often overlooked (even my fiance turned up his nose at it), but it is gorgeous and dirt cheap. Lake Atitlan is beautiful. Pick a place on the lake to stay, and then spend each day catching a little local boat to other towns to explore. Or borrow a kayak from wherever you're staying. Or go hiking in the hills around the lake.

I've only been to SE Costa Rica, but I really liked Puerto Viejo. You can rent a bike for about $5 and go along the black sand beach.

Ecuador is awesome, and I'd love to see more of it. The Hilton Colon in Quito is about $50/night but is very nice, and just a few blocks behind it is a huge market where you can get all things alpaca, some good food, etc. All very cheap. Great Christmas gifts that look luxurious and exotic but cost you $11. (Edited to add: The Galapagos islands really ARE all they're cracked up to be. Amazing photos and experiences I'll never have anywhere else. I did a trip with G Adventures in my more spendypants days, and a couple on my trip said they had just gotten themselves over to the Galapagos and then hopped on our trip at the last minute at a huge discount. Maybe have a Plan B if you're going to do that, but it might be worth a try!)

I liked Panama but just did sort of a quick group tour, with multiple stops, so I'm not really sure what to recommend. Panama City is a nice city, but it comes with a higher price tag than most of Central America.

As you might have gathered, I love that part of the world, so please don't hesitate to ask if you have any other questions! Got any room in your suitcase for me? :-)
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2016, 05:25:04 PM »
We did an amazing 10 day tour of the Yucatan peninsula for $2100 including flights, fancy meals, taxis, and nice hotels.  I had a great time.  There is a lot of hiking, bike riding, swimming holes, ruins, and cultural activities.  We split our time between Merida, Tulum, and Viadollid.  I highly recommend it.

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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2016, 06:40:05 AM »
I second all of the Central/South America suggestions. Flights to Central America, in particular, are relatively cheap and fast, and there's little to no jet lag. That will help you not waste your vacation time flying or being jet lagged. (Asia is great, but it's a bit far for a week.) Very nice hotel rooms can be had for $50 (or adequate ones for much less), and meals are equally cheap.

It's always nice to know the language where you're going, but in this case it's not 100% necessary. I've been working on teaching myself Spanish, but I knew nothing when I first went to that part of the world, and I was fine. Smiles and gestures can get you a long way, and a lot of people know some English. Even if you just learn a few words, people will appreciate your effort.

If you'd like to stick to an English-speaking place, try Belize or Roatan. Everyone speaks English in Belize. Roatan is an island off the coast of Honduras that was originally primarily English-speaking, having been settled by former African slaves (and pirates!, whose white descendants are still there -- ran into some at a restaurant and it was the most surreal thing), but now has more mainland Honduras (and therefore Spanish-speaking) influence. But still lots of English there. Roatan has, as you might expect, mostly beach-related activities. Stay in West End (local, cheap), not West Bay (touristy, expensive), but take a taxi (or hitchhike) over the West Bay to swim in their beautiful beaches and feed scraps to the reef fish. Drink Monkey La-Las. In Belize, I've done a surf-and-turf week twice, and I loved it both times. A few days on Caye Caulker (small island with no cars, mon) and a few days in San Ignacio (jumping-off point for hiking, spelunking, river tubing, etc.). On Caye Caulker, do a snorkeling trip to Hol Chan Marine Reserve and Shark/Ray Alley with Raggamuffin Tours. And go to the bar at the Split (where the island literally split in half years ago) and the I & I Bar -- even if you don't drink, it's just a fun place to people-watch.

Guatemala is often overlooked (even my fiance turned up his nose at it), but it is gorgeous and dirt cheap. Lake Atitlan is beautiful. Pick a place on the lake to stay, and then spend each day catching a little local boat to other towns to explore. Or borrow a kayak from wherever you're staying. Or go hiking in the hills around the lake.

I've only been to SE Costa Rica, but I really liked Puerto Viejo. You can rent a bike for about $5 and go along the black sand beach.

Ecuador is awesome, and I'd love to see more of it. The Hilton Colon in Quito is about $50/night but is very nice, and just a few blocks behind it is a huge market where you can get all things alpaca, some good food, etc. All very cheap. Great Christmas gifts that look luxurious and exotic but cost you $11. (Edited to add: The Galapagos islands really ARE all they're cracked up to be. Amazing photos and experiences I'll never have anywhere else. I did a trip with G Adventures in my more spendypants days, and a couple on my trip said they had just gotten themselves over to the Galapagos and then hopped on our trip at the last minute at a huge discount. Maybe have a Plan B if you're going to do that, but it might be worth a try!)

I liked Panama but just did sort of a quick group tour, with multiple stops, so I'm not really sure what to recommend. Panama City is a nice city, but it comes with a higher price tag than most of Central America.

As you might have gathered, I love that part of the world, so please don't hesitate to ask if you have any other questions! Got any room in your suitcase for me? :-)

This is great, thanks for all of the suggestions. When you are traveling is SA, how do you get around? Do you rent a car or take public transit? Hitchhike?

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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2016, 07:11:20 AM »
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Are there other off the beaten path Caribbean destinations, aside from Bonaire, that others would recommend?

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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2016, 07:29:29 AM »
+1 to Costa Rica (never been to the Caribbean side, but the central area as well as the Pacific side are great).
The Yucatan in Mexico is also lovely (land in Cancun and then get the hell out of there unless you like touristy spots). Chichen Itza and south of Tulum is nice.
Guadeloupe and Martinique are lovely calm, non-touristy Caribbean islands as well (French speaking).

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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2016, 07:37:16 AM »
Second to Guatemala, I thought I was excited to see Belize, until we went to Guatemala...it's like the opening scene to Jurassic Park, amazing.

We also did Dubrovnik this year and that blew me out of the water, I never expected it to be as stunning as it was.

Greensheep, we are tossing up a 10 yr anniversary trip to the Galapagos, were you able to find any deals?  We have a free place to stay in Quito with a friend, but those island tour prices make my heart hurt.  Said friend used to be a guide on one of the island boats (she's a geneticist and did the Darwin tours) and indicated that it's pretty much a cartel when it comes to pricing.

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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2016, 07:39:40 AM »
This is great, thanks for all of the suggestions. When you are traveling is SA, how do you get around? Do you rent a car or take public transit? Hitchhike?

I've spent less time in SA than in CA, so I don't have a ton of experience to share. My "getting around" has been either very short distances (walkable) or very long distances (2 hour flights). I have taken a couple of taxis to/from airports, and they haven't been terribly expensive. I've also been on a couple of 7-hour bus rides through Patagonia, but that was with a private group. I've heard mixed reviews of the long-haul buses in SA. Mostly stinky bathroom issues. And lots of time. It's a large continent. Even fairly frugal people typically say that if you can afford to fly rather than take a bus (assuming you're just going one long distance and not stopping a bunch of times in between), you're better off trading money for time and taking the flight.

In CA.... a bus across Belize (2 hours on an old American school bus) will cost you $4. Water taxis are pretty cheap, though I don't remember specifics. And I did link up with another couple at my lodge once to take an overnight trip from San Ignacio, Belize to see Tikal just over the border in Guatemala. They had rented a pickup truck, and I don't think they paid a ton for it. (In fact, this was not long after Hurricane Katrina, and the truck had a dealer decal from that area, so I think it was probably one that got flooded and then was sold down south. So check any vehicles you rent to make sure they're in decent shape! It's not like the US, where the vehicle you rent has 5000 miles on it and still has that new car smell!)

I have a coworker who has a camper van that she and her son have driven from the US all the way down to Patagonia. That would be a hell of a way to do it! :-)

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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2016, 07:43:19 AM »
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Are there other off the beaten path Caribbean destinations, aside from Bonaire, that others would recommend?

I liked Grenada, but that was about 13 years ago, pre-hurricane.

I lived on St. Croix (US Virgin Islands), and although I would not want to live there again, it's a very nice, relaxed place to visit. I'd stay at the Carambola beach resort on the west end. Definitely rent a car so you can drive into the towns and hit lots of different beaches. Without a car, you're stuck at the hotel... which is very nice and has restaurants, etc., but it's nice to get out and explore. The island is not overly developed. It's the kind of place where you might have to stop to let a goat or a chicken cross the road. Carambola is not cheap, but you might be able to find deals online or use Marriott points.

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2016, 07:50:12 AM »
Greensheep, we are tossing up a 10 yr anniversary trip to the Galapagos, were you able to find any deals?  We have a free place to stay in Quito with a friend, but those island tour prices make my heart hurt.  Said friend used to be a guide on one of the island boats (she's a geneticist and did the Darwin tours) and indicated that it's pretty much a cartel when it comes to pricing.

Unfortunately, I wasn't really looking for deals at the time. I do know that G Adventures (and other companies, I'm sure -- I've heard great things about Intrepid, and I LOVE Bio Bio, though they are anything but cheap and I don't think they go to the Galapagos (yet)) frequently has 15-20% off deals, so keep an eye out for those. I would also look into whether there are local companies/individuals that will take you around. You're required to have a local guide, so it's not a place where you can just show up and expect to do it all on your own, but I suspect that if you were willing to take a leap of faith and just go there, you could probably get a guide or latch onto a tour group at a discounted rate. I can certainly understand not wanting to take that kind of gamble on a 10 year anniversary trip, though! Maybe look into using airline and hotel points when possible, go in the off season, and just bite the bullet on the rest of the costs? I sometimes have to remind myself that part of the reason I'm generally frugal is so that I can spend money when there's something I really, really want. Travel is usually that thing, in my case. And the Galapagos are SO worth seeing. I will never forget jumping off the boat into the water and being surrounded by curious penguins and baby sea lions. It is such a cool place.

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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2016, 09:00:33 AM »
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Are there other off the beaten path Caribbean destinations, aside from Bonaire, that others would recommend?

I'm taking a trip to the British Virgin Islands in April next year.  Many of the islands in the BVI would be considered off the beaten path.  None are very touristy nor developed.  Tortola is the biggest and has the most to do.  Jost Van Dyke is a very interesting island, but little to do other than enjoying island life and a few beach bars.

St. John USVI is still relatively undeveloped and most of the island is National Park, but in high season (Dec-Mar) it can be pretty busy.  I personally always stay on the Coral Bay side, which is quieter and less touristy.  Great hiking opportunities and some interesting history.

Puerto Rico has two interesting islands you can visit.  Veiques and Culebra are both small islands without much development.  Vieques has an interesting history as a US military test site.  As such, much of the island is undeveloped and has lots of exploring opportunities if you want to get adventurous in your Jeep.

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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2016, 09:06:01 AM »
Dominican Republic is pretty cool - just stay the heck away from the resorts, which are these weird private enclaves that give you no connection to the people or landscape.  We stayed in Santo Domingo old town, which is a UNESCO World Heritage Site - Christopher Columbus and all that.  You could easily spend a week here as a base and take some cool day trips.

We traveled to the west near the Haitian border for some birding and hiking and spent time with some great locals.  Spanish is advisory but not mandatory. 

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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2016, 09:33:44 AM »
A lot of great ideas. Here are another couple options for a 6-7 day trip:

Nicaragua:
Beautiful and cheap. Fly into Managua, but don't stay there. If you don't mind driving, renting a vehicle is probably the best way to explore (a coworker just did this this past winter and had no issues getting around). Drive down and spend a few days in Granada -- great city with some nice restaurants and bars. From Granada you can check out the Volcano at Masaya (the town of Masaya also has a pretty massive market that's interesting), do a boat tour of Last Isletas, and check out Mombacho (I didn't do them, but there's some hike and zip line tours that look interesting).
From Granada it's a maybe 2 hour drive down to San Juan Del Sur, which is a nice resort beach town where you can be beach bums and try some surfing or other tours.

Guatemala:
If you do go to Guatemala I would recommend Tikal. The best ruins I have visited and you can easily spend a day or even 2 exploring. There's also sunrise tours available, where you go in with a group before the park opens and climb up one of the temples to watch the sunrise, well worth the money. And just south of Tikal is Lake Peten Itza and I would recommend checking out El Remate or Flores for a day or 2.

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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2016, 09:46:56 AM »
Nicaragua:
Beautiful and cheap. Fly into Managua, but don't stay there. If you don't mind driving, renting a vehicle is probably the best way to explore (a coworker just did this this past winter and had no issues getting around). Drive down and spend a few days in Granada -- great city with some nice restaurants and bars. From Granada you can check out the Volcano at Masaya (the town of Masaya also has a pretty massive market that's interesting), do a boat tour of Last Isletas, and check out Mombacho (I didn't do them, but there's some hike and zip line tours that look interesting).
From Granada it's a maybe 2 hour drive down to San Juan Del Sur, which is a nice resort beach town where you can be beach bums and try some surfing or other tours.

Nicaragua is definitely beautiful.  I didn't mention Nicaragua because I personally found it a little podunk-y for my tastes, but I think a lot of people would like that it's quiet, rural, and cowboy.

You'll probably save yourself money by flying into Costa Rica.  Nicaragua is cheaper than Costa Rica to travel in, but Costa Rica is one of the cheaper Latin American destinations for flights since it's on the beaten path.  At least that was the case several years ago.  Costa Rica is a small country so it's not hard to get to Nicaragua from San Jose. 

+1 on Granada. It's a beautiful colonial city. 

Another possibility in Nicaragua is the island of Ometepe.  Ometepe is basically two big volcanoes sticking straight out of Lake Nicaragua, and Lake Nicaragua is the size of one of the great lakes with beaches. 

I believe you can also go "volcano boarding," but I didn't get there. 

Also, February is also in the middle of Nicaragua's "summer," ie the dry season, so it will be sunny.
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2016, 09:50:29 AM »
Greensheep, we are tossing up a 10 yr anniversary trip to the Galapagos, were you able to find any deals?  We have a free place to stay in Quito with a friend, but those island tour prices make my heart hurt.  Said friend used to be a guide on one of the island boats (she's a geneticist and did the Darwin tours) and indicated that it's pretty much a cartel when it comes to pricing.

Unfortunately, I wasn't really looking for deals at the time. I do know that G Adventures (and other companies, I'm sure -- I've heard great things about Intrepid, and I LOVE Bio Bio, though they are anything but cheap and I don't think they go to the Galapagos (yet)) frequently has 15-20% off deals, so keep an eye out for those. I would also look into whether there are local companies/individuals that will take you around. You're required to have a local guide, so it's not a place where you can just show up and expect to do it all on your own, but I suspect that if you were willing to take a leap of faith and just go there, you could probably get a guide or latch onto a tour group at a discounted rate. I can certainly understand not wanting to take that kind of gamble on a 10 year anniversary trip, though! Maybe look into using airline and hotel points when possible, go in the off season, and just bite the bullet on the rest of the costs? I sometimes have to remind myself that part of the reason I'm generally frugal is so that I can spend money when there's something I really, really want. Travel is usually that thing, in my case. And the Galapagos are SO worth seeing. I will never forget jumping off the boat into the water and being surrounded by curious penguins and baby sea lions. It is such a cool place.

That's what I thought, still 10k a person makes me want to die a little inside (we are looking at a 2 week trip, with diving).  However that is a place I have wanted to visit since I was about 5 and it only got worse after reading the On the Origin of Species as a teenager (yes, I am that large of a nerd).  I don't know anyone outside of friend that worked there that's ever seen the place so I've been having a hard time swallowing the cost because I wasn't sure if it was worth it or not.  I'm glad to hear from someone that's been there that it is.   We have a couple of years to save up for it outside of our main investment money.   THat and African Safari were always top two on my list.  I got African Safari for free in return for months of research drudgery in grad school so I guess I'll call it a half off sale ;-)

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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2016, 05:47:55 PM »
Greensheep, we are tossing up a 10 yr anniversary trip to the Galapagos, were you able to find any deals?  We have a free place to stay in Quito with a friend, but those island tour prices make my heart hurt.  Said friend used to be a guide on one of the island boats (she's a geneticist and did the Darwin tours) and indicated that it's pretty much a cartel when it comes to pricing.

Unfortunately, I wasn't really looking for deals at the time. I do know that G Adventures (and other companies, I'm sure -- I've heard great things about Intrepid, and I LOVE Bio Bio, though they are anything but cheap and I don't think they go to the Galapagos (yet)) frequently has 15-20% off deals, so keep an eye out for those. I would also look into whether there are local companies/individuals that will take you around. You're required to have a local guide, so it's not a place where you can just show up and expect to do it all on your own, but I suspect that if you were willing to take a leap of faith and just go there, you could probably get a guide or latch onto a tour group at a discounted rate. I can certainly understand not wanting to take that kind of gamble on a 10 year anniversary trip, though! Maybe look into using airline and hotel points when possible, go in the off season, and just bite the bullet on the rest of the costs? I sometimes have to remind myself that part of the reason I'm generally frugal is so that I can spend money when there's something I really, really want. Travel is usually that thing, in my case. And the Galapagos are SO worth seeing. I will never forget jumping off the boat into the water and being surrounded by curious penguins and baby sea lions. It is such a cool place.

That's what I thought, still 10k a person makes me want to die a little inside (we are looking at a 2 week trip, with diving).  However that is a place I have wanted to visit since I was about 5 and it only got worse after reading the On the Origin of Species as a teenager (yes, I am that large of a nerd).  I don't know anyone outside of friend that worked there that's ever seen the place so I've been having a hard time swallowing the cost because I wasn't sure if it was worth it or not.  I'm glad to hear from someone that's been there that it is.   We have a couple of years to save up for it outside of our main investment money.   THat and African Safari were always top two on my list.  I got African Safari for free in return for months of research drudgery in grad school so I guess I'll call it a half off sale ;-)

Whoa, $10K each?! Unless you're doing some kind of luxury cruise around the Galapagos, it shouldn't be that bad, especially since you're staying with friends in Quito. G Adventures and Intrepid have several trips as long as 10-14 days that are in the $3000-5000 per person range, and that includes transportation from Quito. Add the flight from wherever you are (I assume US?) for about $1-2K, and you're still not even close to $10K. Not trying to be argumentative... just trying to point out that it's not quite as expensive as you think! :-) (And yeah, "half off," since your safari was free!)

Also, I agree with the person above who mentioned Tikal and Flores. Flores is a neat little town, and Tikal is just awesome. I just happened to go at the end of the day in the off season when no one was there, and it was a cool experience. Wish I'd had more time there.

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Re: Vacation Ideas?
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2016, 06:27:44 PM »
Greensheep, we are tossing up a 10 yr anniversary trip to the Galapagos, were you able to find any deals?  We have a free place to stay in Quito with a friend, but those island tour prices make my heart hurt.  Said friend used to be a guide on one of the island boats (she's a geneticist and did the Darwin tours) and indicated that it's pretty much a cartel when it comes to pricing.

Unfortunately, I wasn't really looking for deals at the time. I do know that G Adventures (and other companies, I'm sure -- I've heard great things about Intrepid, and I LOVE Bio Bio, though they are anything but cheap and I don't think they go to the Galapagos (yet)) frequently has 15-20% off deals, so keep an eye out for those. I would also look into whether there are local companies/individuals that will take you around. You're required to have a local guide, so it's not a place where you can just show up and expect to do it all on your own, but I suspect that if you were willing to take a leap of faith and just go there, you could probably get a guide or latch onto a tour group at a discounted rate. I can certainly understand not wanting to take that kind of gamble on a 10 year anniversary trip, though! Maybe look into using airline and hotel points when possible, go in the off season, and just bite the bullet on the rest of the costs? I sometimes have to remind myself that part of the reason I'm generally frugal is so that I can spend money when there's something I really, really want. Travel is usually that thing, in my case. And the Galapagos are SO worth seeing. I will never forget jumping off the boat into the water and being surrounded by curious penguins and baby sea lions. It is such a cool place.

That's what I thought, still 10k a person makes me want to die a little inside (we are looking at a 2 week trip, with diving).  However that is a place I have wanted to visit since I was about 5 and it only got worse after reading the On the Origin of Species as a teenager (yes, I am that large of a nerd).  I don't know anyone outside of friend that worked there that's ever seen the place so I've been having a hard time swallowing the cost because I wasn't sure if it was worth it or not.  I'm glad to hear from someone that's been there that it is.   We have a couple of years to save up for it outside of our main investment money.   THat and African Safari were always top two on my list.  I got African Safari for free in return for months of research drudgery in grad school so I guess I'll call it a half off sale ;-)

Whoa, $10K each?! Unless you're doing some kind of luxury cruise around the Galapagos, it shouldn't be that bad, especially since you're staying with friends in Quito. G Adventures and Intrepid have several trips as long as 10-14 days that are in the $3000-5000 per person range, and that includes transportation from Quito. Add the flight from wherever you are (I assume US?) for about $1-2K, and you're still not even close to $10K. Not trying to be argumentative... just trying to point out that it's not quite as expensive as you think! :-) (And yeah, "half off," since your safari was free!)

Also, I agree with the person above who mentioned Tikal and Flores. Flores is a neat little town, and Tikal is just awesome. I just happened to go at the end of the day in the off season when no one was there, and it was a cool experience. Wish I'd had more time there.

It's the diving part that brings the price up.  We are avid divers, but only a few ships are allowed dive permits in the Galapagos and therefore bring a premium.  If we dropped diving off (which we might considering cost) then yea, 7k or so with airfare per person is about right.

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Re: Vacation Ideas?
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2016, 06:47:32 PM »
I would consider New Zealand, especially if you are on the west coast (shorter distance).

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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2016, 08:59:48 PM »
Nicaragua:
Beautiful and cheap. Fly into Managua, but don't stay there. If you don't mind driving, renting a vehicle is probably the best way to explore (a coworker just did this this past winter and had no issues getting around). Drive down and spend a few days in Granada -- great city with some nice restaurants and bars. From Granada you can check out the Volcano at Masaya (the town of Masaya also has a pretty massive market that's interesting), do a boat tour of Last Isletas, and check out Mombacho (I didn't do them, but there's some hike and zip line tours that look interesting).
From Granada it's a maybe 2 hour drive down to San Juan Del Sur, which is a nice resort beach town where you can be beach bums and try some surfing or other tours.

Nicaragua is definitely beautiful.  I didn't mention Nicaragua because I personally found it a little podunk-y for my tastes, but I think a lot of people would like that it's quiet, rural, and cowboy.

You'll probably save yourself money by flying into Costa Rica.  Nicaragua is cheaper than Costa Rica to travel in, but Costa Rica is one of the cheaper Latin American destinations for flights since it's on the beaten path.  At least that was the case several years ago.  Costa Rica is a small country so it's not hard to get to Nicaragua from San Jose. 

+1 on Granada. It's a beautiful colonial city. 

Another possibility in Nicaragua is the island of Ometepe.  Ometepe is basically two big volcanoes sticking straight out of Lake Nicaragua, and Lake Nicaragua is the size of one of the great lakes with beaches. 

I believe you can also go "volcano boarding," but I didn't get there. 

Also, February is also in the middle of Nicaragua's "summer," ie the dry season, so it will be sunny.

Nicaragua can definitely be a bit cowboy. There was a rodeo on Ometepe where anyone could ride a bull for less than $5 USD (flip flops were acceptable footwear). Amazing time, but maybe not very safe. Although to be fair, I didn't see anyone get hurt at the rodeo. I wasn't on Ometepe in February, but we did get stuck there for a couple of extra days due to weather so that's something to keep in mind for anyone planning to travel there.

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Re: Vacation Ideas?
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2016, 04:29:44 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2016, 07:12:11 AM »
Nicaragua:
Beautiful and cheap. Fly into Managua, but don't stay there. If you don't mind driving, renting a vehicle is probably the best way to explore (a coworker just did this this past winter and had no issues getting around). Drive down and spend a few days in Granada -- great city with some nice restaurants and bars. From Granada you can check out the Volcano at Masaya (the town of Masaya also has a pretty massive market that's interesting), do a boat tour of Last Isletas, and check out Mombacho (I didn't do them, but there's some hike and zip line tours that look interesting).
From Granada it's a maybe 2 hour drive down to San Juan Del Sur, which is a nice resort beach town where you can be beach bums and try some surfing or other tours.

Nicaragua is definitely beautiful.  I didn't mention Nicaragua because I personally found it a little podunk-y for my tastes, but I think a lot of people would like that it's quiet, rural, and cowboy.

You'll probably save yourself money by flying into Costa Rica.  Nicaragua is cheaper than Costa Rica to travel in, but Costa Rica is one of the cheaper Latin American destinations for flights since it's on the beaten path.  At least that was the case several years ago.  Costa Rica is a small country so it's not hard to get to Nicaragua from San Jose. 

+1 on Granada. It's a beautiful colonial city. 

Another possibility in Nicaragua is the island of Ometepe.  Ometepe is basically two big volcanoes sticking straight out of Lake Nicaragua, and Lake Nicaragua is the size of one of the great lakes with beaches. 

I believe you can also go "volcano boarding," but I didn't get there. 

Also, February is also in the middle of Nicaragua's "summer," ie the dry season, so it will be sunny.

Thanks for the suggestions. We started to look at Nicaragua as a co-worker was just down there for a wedding and had nothing but great things to say about the trip.

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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2016, 07:15:44 AM »
I would consider New Zealand, especially if you are on the west coast (shorter distance).

Unfortunately we are not on the West Coast (Ohio). But New Zealand is on a list for traveling later on down the road.

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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2016, 10:19:29 AM »
Nicaragua can definitely be a bit cowboy. There was a rodeo on Ometepe where anyone could ride a bull for less than $5 USD (flip flops were acceptable footwear). Amazing time, but maybe not very safe. Although to be fair, I didn't see anyone get hurt at the rodeo. I wasn't on Ometepe in February, but we did get stuck there for a couple of extra days due to weather so that's something to keep in mind for anyone planning to travel there.

The boats didn't run one of the days I was on Ometepe and that was in February.  The weather was nice, but it was just really windy.  Fortunately I wasn't trying to get off the island.  I did try to hike to the top of the volcano that day, and the wind was so bad we had to turn around at the tree line.  I was also a little miffed because the boats staying in meant none of the fishermen went out.   No fishing meant I couldn't get the big sizzling reina del lago fish that my traveling companions had gotten the day before.

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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2016, 11:45:59 AM »
In this time frame you could probably...

  • Open both SW credit cards
  • Hit the spend requirements
  • Get companion status
  • Fly for free

Spend a bit more on hotel? Pocket the rest? Southwest goes all over the Caribbean

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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2016, 11:51:07 AM »
We did an amazing 10 day tour of the Yucatan peninsula for $2100 including flights, fancy meals, taxis, and nice hotels.  I had a great time.  There is a lot of hiking, bike riding, swimming holes, ruins, and cultural activities.  We split our time between Merida, Tulum, and Viadollid.  I highly recommend it.

This is what I was going to suggest. Merida has that beautiful colonial look and definitely worth visiting, plus it's really close to Riviera/Cancun/Cozumel areas with beautiful white sand beaches.

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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2016, 12:46:57 PM »
In this time frame you could probably...

  • Open both SW credit cards
  • Hit the spend requirements
  • Get companion status
  • Fly for free


This is definitely something that we need to research and start ASAP. Either SW or another credit card option with great perks.