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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2014, 02:21:32 PM »
My iPad. I know MMM claims to not see a need for one, but I love reading and the iPad satisfies my reading habit daily for hours for free. I also use it for homeschooling and save a lot of $$$ pulling up what we need without having to print things out from the computer or purchase curriculum.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2014, 05:25:51 PM »
Time.

Time is better than money. As I told my department chair the other day (about taking on an extra class), I can always make more money.

... But I like her, and she needed help, so I took the damn class.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2014, 09:34:42 PM »
My iPad. I know MMM claims to not see a need for one, but I love reading and the iPad satisfies my reading habit daily for hours for free. I also use it for homeschooling and save a lot of $$$ pulling up what we need without having to print things out from the computer or purchase curriculum.

Same here. I live in a place without any public library access at all, so being able to read pirated books on my iPad is what keeps me learning and improving. I wish I could just buy the ebooks, but I am currently too poor to spend $20 on a book. And I read many, many books each month.

I do not have access to Amazon.com or paper books, either.

The iPad simply works for me.

That said, if I really wanted to save money, I could have just gotten a Kindle or a cheap Chinese-made tablet. But I use the iPad so much that having a good user experience is paramount, and Android products simply do not compare.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #53 on: March 13, 2014, 09:56:36 PM »
Michelin Tires
Good running shoes (I guess tires for my body)
Slightly expensive scotch
Books that I can't find from the library

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2014, 11:14:00 PM »
Michelin Tires
Good running shoes (I guess tires for my body)
Slightly expensive scotch
Books that I can't find from the library

I love scotch. Scotchy, scotch, scotch.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2014, 12:44:07 AM »
Michelin Tires
Good running shoes (I guess tires for my body)
Slightly expensive scotch
Books that I can't find from the library

I love scotch. Scotchy, scotch, scotch.

The kind you are talking about is better than mine :)

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2014, 07:11:18 AM »
Time.

Time is better than money. As I told my department chair the other day (about taking on an extra class), I can always make more money.

... But I like her, and she needed help, so I took the damn class.

I mean that if I could give you money and you could give me my own time... That is worth the money!

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2014, 07:30:51 AM »
Time.

Time is better than money. As I told my department chair the other day (about taking on an extra class), I can always make more money.

... But I like her, and she needed help, so I took the damn class.

I mean that if I could give you money and you could give me my own time... That is worth the money!

Oh, yeah, definitely. And that's pretty much what we're all doing here, isn't it? The point of a stash is to buy time.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2014, 12:36:46 PM »
For the many people recommending a good bed . . . I slept on the floor of my room from about age 13 to my mid 20s because it was more comfortable to me.  Although the wife now requires that we sleep in a bed, and the new bed is comfortable my sleep is not better in any way.  I don't understand the 'good bed' argument at all.

Me too, I sleep on the couch most nights as my wife and kids take up the bed and can't take my TV to fall asleep thing (I have ADD, my brain works differently than yours and tv actually makes me fall asleep way faster than any of the experts techniques).

Before that I often slept in my car when I was a pilot, it saved a long trip home when I had an early morning show and meant I could sometimes actually get 8 hours of sleep.   This was pre Colgan crash crew rest rules.    I never minded it, even on the morning when I would wake up with a quarter inch of ice on the inside of all the windows.   Thank god for down sleeping bags.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2014, 02:27:43 PM »
Knives, a solid commuter bike, good running shoes and a good winter coat.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2014, 02:39:12 PM »
    What a wonderful thread and a good thought exercise.

    Time
    Clothes that fit (I'm petite/curvy so cheaper brands end up requiring a lot of tailoring)
    Great shoes (I wear Vivo barefoot and Vibrams)
    Great produce
    Good quality backpacking gear
    Good quality music instruments (since I enjoy playing)
    Apple products
    Travel to foreign countries
    Being able to take friends/family out to dinner without worrying about picking up the bill
    CA state parks yearly parking pass :)
    90-minute prenatal massages for lower back pain


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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2014, 03:44:13 PM »
Chacos!  I have a pair that I've been wearing since high school and they barely show any wear after over 7 years of use.  Plus they have a lifetime warranty so that if the soles or straps ever wear out, they'll replace them!

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2014, 10:39:23 PM »
Cookware.  I am fed up with replacing my crappy teflon pans every year and am beginning to replace them with nicer cast iron brands such as Le Creuset that I am finding on Craigslist.  I'm hoping they will last a lifetime.  I feel I am getting my money's worth because they are a joy to cook with and I am able to make restaurant quality food.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2014, 02:06:11 AM »
Good dental floss... I use glide comfort plus.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2014, 05:01:16 AM »

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So tell us what you have in your kitchen and what you have jettisoned over time as not meeting your criteria.

I keep getting tempted by one of this hand blender things.  A lot of people seem to swear by them.  They always seem gadgety to me (thou I confess I have never used one), and I have managed to get along without one for lots of years.

If you mean an immersion blender, I swear by mine.  I have a very simple Krups, only the blade attachment, and I use it nearly every day for smoothies, salad dressing, pureeing soup in the pot, etc etc etc.  I've had it for 12 years and you'll pry it out of my cold dead hands.  It's not great with large ice cubes, but that's not what I need it for, mostly. Frozen drinks are why my regular blender still has a home. :)

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2014, 05:15:23 AM »
Vitamix!  Use it every day.  Bought it refurbished, of course...

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« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2014, 06:44:32 AM »
Zipties.
My Trek FX bike
Teva sandals
Wool anything
I suppose my iPad. My DW bought it, never uses it, and I use it multiple hours a day.
A good miter saw (manual or electric). Very hard to do any quality woodwork without it.
State park permit.
Zoo pass.
Memberships to any museum you'll visit more than once a year.
Outerwear made of GoreTex or the many competing (and vastly cheaper) versions of it.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2014, 02:58:30 PM »
I second that good knives thing!  But I would say almost anything kitchen related is worth the money to me...not frivolous gadgets of course, but good cookware, knives, Dutch oven etc.  You get so much more longevity out of them when they are good quality!  Good bed and good clothes, by which I don't mean fashionable, but will wear for a long time.  Also good tools if you're into DIY.  And good food, organic etc.  This one is the most important to me.

Also I ashamedly admit, good makeup and good booze...hey we all have our vices

I do 99% of the cooking in our house. Works out well for the DW, and since I consider cooking a sort of hobby, all the better!

One thing I cannot stand is a single-purpose kitchen gadget.  If I can't use it for more than one thing, or I don't do that one thing weekly, it is OUT of my kitchen!

Also for this kind of thing, I find the buy-it-for-life sub-Reddit quite useful.

So tell us what you have in your kitchen and what you have jettisoned over time as not meeting your criteria.

I keep getting tempted by one of this hand blender things.  A lot of people seem to swear by them.  They always seem gadgety to me (thou I confess I have never used one), and I have managed to get along without one for lots of years.

Somehow missed this reply, please excuse the lateness of my reply.


Anyway, I have a number of gadgets: Blender, Food processor, immersion blender (makes making mayo a snap!), a crock pot, a pressure cooker, and a Kitchen Aid stand mixer I got as a wedding present that sees little use now, mostly just the meat grinder attachment. My wife occasionally uses a waffle maker.

While that's a fair number of gewgaws, I've also eliminated a lot of useless things. I got rid of a number of 'as seen on TV' kind of things like onion choppers, bell pepper containers, etc.  as well as pasta stirrers (not sure why a wooden spoon is not good enough to stir pasta) and various specialized things like that.  My rule is that if I don't use it once a year, it's gone.  That's especially important now that we've moved and have a smaller kitchen space.

When I moved in with my wife, she had a huge number of impulse buys and ill considered gifts which we sorted through to decide what to keep and what to get rid of. I've kept on paring down the number of things, so I can finally fit it all in our drawers.  If I find something I need, I buy it and have asked people not to buy things for the kitchen for me unless I've asked for it directly.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2014, 05:34:38 PM »
    What a wonderful thread and a good thought exercise.

    Time
    Clothes that fit (I'm petite/curvy so cheaper brands end up requiring a lot of tailoring)
    Great shoes (I wear Vivo barefoot and Vibrams)
    Great produce
    Good quality backpacking gear
    Good quality music instruments (since I enjoy playing)
    Apple products
    Travel to foreign countries
    Being able to take friends/family out to dinner without worrying about picking up the bill
    CA state parks yearly parking pass :)
    90-minute prenatal massages for lower back pain


I'm wearing Vivobarefoots right now! LOVE THEM.

Where does one buy these shoes?

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2014, 08:31:54 PM »
New to the boards but wanted to chime in.

First off, I am so glad that someone posted this thread. I've been reading MMM for a few weeks now all while having a mental battle in my head about a decision I've been putting off making for over a year because from a financial standpoing only, it will increase my monthly outflows. No way around that. But from a peace of mind, value, moral standpoint .... I need to make it.

Anyway. Glad to see what others consider of value. I'll be moving & on my own soon and have been debating about different things. What to spend money on vs. what not. I've alway sbeen told good kitchen gear. Glad to see others think so too.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2014, 10:35:03 PM »
New to the boards but wanted to chime in.

First off, I am so glad that someone posted this thread. I've been reading MMM for a few weeks now all while having a mental battle in my head about a decision I've been putting off making for over a year because from a financial standpoing only, it will increase my monthly outflows. No way around that. But from a peace of mind, value, moral standpoint .... I need to make it.

Anyway. Glad to see what others consider of value. I'll be moving & on my own soon and have been debating about different things. What to spend money on vs. what not. I've alway sbeen told good kitchen gear. Glad to see others think so too.

There are things that are worth it, but that doesn't mean they're worth it right away.

Sometimes you may want to put up with crappy kitchen gear for awhile, for the sake of financial stability, peace of mind, etc.

Too often "quality" is used as an excuse to spend.  Yes, spend based on value, but there are times when that should be delayed too.

Just something to think about.  Welcome to the forums.  :)
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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2014, 08:24:56 AM »
My backpack.  It is the swiss army brand  and was $50 at target 8 years ago.  I decided to get the really nice looking one that was $50 instead of the $15-20 ones that were cheaper because my job was going to reimburse me for it.  Turned out to be one of the best purchases of my life and well worth every penny.  I use it daily for personal use and work and it is in just as good shape now as it was 8 years ago.  I highly recommend this brand of back packs to anyone in the market for one.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #72 on: March 31, 2014, 07:56:49 AM »
Cool story about the swiss army brand luggage.

Started in late 90's by brothers in St. Louis that were tired of the zippers breaking.

They wanted to make reliable luggage but did not want to try to jump in the market with an unknow brand and go through that battle so they picked a very iconic brand and paid them for the rights.

Possibly, one of the most profitable branding strategies in the last 20 years.

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« Reply #73 on: March 31, 2014, 08:30:19 AM »
Cool story about the swiss army brand luggage.

Started in late 90's by brothers in St. Louis that were tired of the zippers breaking.

They wanted to make reliable luggage but did not want to try to jump in the market with an unknow brand and go through that battle so they picked a very iconic brand and paid them for the rights.

I'm definitely getting that next. I have had trouble with luggage zippers and now I am worried everytime I wait for my luggage after a flight.

As for backpacks I also definitely think it is worth it to get a good one. I have had many many school bags that failed after 1-2 years. Then I started working and bought 3 sizes for different needs:

Small marmot laptop bag for commuting to work. 10+ years old and still going strong.
Medium north face backpack with side pouches for water bottles for day walks. 10+ years old and still going strong.
Huge gregory expedition bag for multi-day hikes and plane travel. 10+ years old and still going strong.

Also now own a very small and light Salomon hydration pack. 1.5L of liquid + a few very small pouches for food and stuff. I use this for trail running. Only 1 year old but I think it will last.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2014, 08:42:17 AM »
...  But I've also been trying to see if I can detect honest quality differences between cheap and expensive store brand clothes (especially since I know something about sewing).  The answer is, for simple items like t-shirts, skirts and sweaters I can tell very little beyond fabric weight, preshrinking and seaming style (seam types; how many seams are properly finished, for example).  I couldn't tell much quality difference in construction between clothes bought at say, Kohl's and LL Bean. I've never bought genuinely high end clothes, so I'm not sure what I'd see there.  I'd be willing to bet it would be minimal in anything simple and "off the rack", except for clothes that are made of super high end fabrics, e.g. Harris Tweed, and in suits and other harder to construct items or truly bespoke pieces...

Your question  is interesting to me because I've never bought extremely high end clothes, either. Talbots, LLBean etc are my "high end" and Talbot stuff I find at the thrift stores. I wonder the same thing, what does high end clothing really look like?

Very high end stuff, by designers, use luxe fabrics, for one thing. Fabrics that need careful wearing and careful care. I love silk and silk blends, but really, for my every day life? Not for me.

So I like fabric with some heft, and primarily cotton. Cotton is expensive.  I prefer to buy in thrift stores rather than on ebay because I want to feel the fabric. I want to know exactly how heavy is that fitted cotton t-shirt. I don't mind if there is a little cheap poly/stretchy fabric in it, but cotton is key for me. I won't wear wool at all, so that eliminates some expensive articles. I've passed by cashmere in the thrift store because it's just the cheap stuff and I have no interest in taking care of it in the way it requires.

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« Reply #75 on: March 31, 2014, 08:47:50 AM »
What constitutes real quality and how is it to be identified?  Does anyone here actually know why they think certain products are higher quality?  BTW, this is actually a serious question, not an accusation of non-mustachian-ness!

I have one jacket made by north face. They guarantee it for life. I wear it almost every day in spring and autumn. The zipper broke after a few years and they replaced it for "free" after I paid for shipping. Most of the stuff I buy at hiking/camping stores seem to be of higher quality than normal clothing and also comes with better warranty.

T-shirts I buy the cheapest ones and replace often. Pants I replace when the bottom starts to unravel. Jackets are forever.

Cars I go by past models reliability. So basically Toyota and Honda on top.

I have not yet found a good brand of house stuff; furniture or appliances. Those seem to all be equal.

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2014, 08:33:09 PM »
I have one jacket made by north face. They guarantee it for life. I wear it almost every day in spring and autumn. The zipper broke after a few years and they replaced it for "free" after I paid for shipping. Most of the stuff I buy at hiking/camping stores seem to be of higher quality than normal clothing and also comes with better warranty.

Interestingly, the "no questions asked anytime returns" are offered by LLBean, Lands End and, of all places, Kohls.  You can literally take back anything that fails, at any time, and get it replaced.  As others have noted, this seems to be an alternative to making good items.  I agree that "practical" clothing stores, such as the hiking shops, etc. do seem to make more durable items (probably because the main or only purpose of their stuff is to be appropriately functional).

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2014, 08:50:51 PM »
I find very little any more that is worth spending extra.  Goods are just so damn disposable these days.  If I need something, I look for it used and prefer an older model that almost always was built better than the new version. 

I do buy new shoes though.  I spend $100 every year on a pair of Keens.  Most everything else in our home was bought cheap at the resale shop. 

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Re: Things that are worth the money
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2014, 10:40:15 PM »
A smartphone.  I recently switched to the talk and text only plan with Republic Wireless, but I love still having the smartphone.  I recently tried to text using T9 on someone else's dumbphone and immediately started having flashbacks.  I quickly decided it wasn't worth it and just called the person instead.

I am a little amused, as I just sold my verizon smartphone, bought a nokia smartphone and a Airvoice $10 per month plan, and am loving it. The key to being okay with the switch though was turning OFF T9.. I am fast manually texting, but T9 did not work at all. (Having a tablet to text for free (from my old google voice number) is nice, but makes this a bit less badass. The tablet cost less than three months of verizon service though)

What I agree with everyone else on though, is good kitchen supplies. They make everything, including cleanup, easier than the cheap/free ones I used to use. We still try to be frugal with this though, and get the best value possible, rather than just the best. (Victorinox knives that have great reviews on cooks illustrated, etc)
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