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Pearldrumbum

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So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« on: November 28, 2015, 12:57:01 PM »
Hi everybody,

Just thought I'd introduce myself and ask for a little advice. I'm a 29 yr old single guy just getting my money mustache growing. A little of my backstory: I've never really taken money super seriously before about 6 months ago, but luckily I naturally avoided some major mistakes. I've never taken out a car loan, and never let my debt get too out of hand. I paid my way through college and graduated with only about $5k in debt, and had about a $2k balance on credit cards. Over the last year I committed myself to eliminating that debt. Well, I've met my goal, and as a bonus, ended up with $5k in a basic savings account.

My living situation has helped greatly, as I have been living rent free for a year and a half. Unfortunately, all good things come to an end and I need to find a new place to live (I've been living at my boss' house, he let me stay for free as he was planning on putting his house on the market soon - apparently 'soon' was a year and a half, lucky me!).

So now I'm seeking some advice on the next step in turning this peach fuzz into a full-blown mustache. I know $5k is low for a down payment on a house, but in my area (greater Seattle), paying first/last/deposit on a rental will eat up most of that $5k as well. I was about to start a vangaurd account with that money until I recently found out that I need to find a place to live by February.

What would you do in my situation? Find a rental and start my vangaurd account? Look for a property to buy, despite my low down payment?

Some more possibly helpful info: My monthly expenses are <$500 (no rent, though). My income is $60k/yr (about $3300 a month take home after taxes/IRA). I'm currently maxing out the IRA plan that my company offers (no 401k option). I'm handy and would definitely seek a fixer-upper if I were to buy. If I buy, I would also be renting out the spare rooms in the house via AirBnB or long term roommates.

Love this blog, and I'm super excited to become part of the community! Thanks in advance for any replies.

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 01:23:31 PM »
Congratulations on getting out of debt and building up a savings account.

To me it seems a little risky to buy a house if $5000 is everything you have saved. It may be better to live with roommates for a year or two and build your savings while you look for just the right opportunity to buy. With roommates, both the rent and the utility bills will be lower.

I'd go ahead and start the Vanguard account and also look for a good roommate situation. There may be more places available during the summer, so you might sublet until then.

Pearldrumbum

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2015, 02:43:29 PM »
I would be looking in Renton, east Renton highlands, or west Seattle most likely. Rent costs are pretty outrageous right now, which is why I'm leaning towards buying with every intention of renting out my unused space. That would keep my expenses as low as possible while still investing in my property.
I understand what kwill says about it being risky to put my relatively small savings into that, however. Realistically, as I still have two months to sort this out, I think I can buckle down and save an additional 3-4k in that amount of time.
Another thing I haven't mentioned is that i travel frequently for work, sometimes for 1-2 months at a time. I have a hard time justifying renting a place that I'm only at 50% of the time at best. Being able to rent my own house out during that time would be beneficial to reducing the impact of paying for a place I can't live in.

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2015, 05:05:22 PM »
Why, exactly, would you not be looking to rent a room, with roommates, in Seattle rather than buying a place on a shoestring with the idea of getting roommates? In both cases, you'd be living with roommates but in the second case you're on the hook for anything that goes wrong with the place. That, or substantial HOA fees to cover such things (depending on how a condo or shared building is managed, which may involve the potential for sudden big fees for building maintenance). And if it's a fixer-upper then wow things can go wrong quickly. Never mind that even with the additional savings, $8K is only 10% down for an $80K place, and good luck finding that anywhere near Seattle. This means you'll be way into barely any equity zone, so if the market stumbles at all you could be underwater very quickly.
A couple of different options:
-you could scout around for a deal in which you do some of the work on the place in exchange for lower rent. This may vary and involve working with other tenants in an apt building or some such, but there may be opportunities if you are handy and willing.
-sharing a place or doing a sort of "house sitting" situation with owners who are somewhat absent. If you are very responsible and again willing to do any needed work this could mean cheap rent.
-roommates who, like you, have a decent amount of travel or kind of live with a significant other but have not yet moved in all the way with their beau.
-roommates with whom you have a lot in common so it's almost like living with your friends instead of someone creepy.

As a longtime homeowner I would definitely caution you against buying too quickly with too little savings. Home ownership costs more than PITI. There is a reason the rule of thumb tends to be maintenance costs of 1%/year. That may be on the high side for a mustachian who has some experience and tools, but it's definitely way above your zero figure. And you often have problems crop up very soon after purchase, because even with inspections and stuff it's still tough to tell. A/C, furnace and water issues are the biggies (several grand potentially) but even some dumb things like a branch falling off a tree can quickly get into the hundreds of dollars if it does damage or increases insurance rates. Also, some things with houses require immediate action in order to prevent further damage. A branch falling on a roof might not be covered by insurance, and rain getting onto the damaged area almost certainly won't be. Roofs cost several thousand dollars, even doing a lot of work yourself. For example.

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2015, 05:17:20 PM »
Thank you guys for the advice. It seems that the consensus is exactly what I thought, but didn't want. I've been really excited and proud of myself for changing my spending habits and turning my money situation around so fast that I tend to get ahead of myself. It's hard to not consider home buying when you have to move soon anyway, especially with housing prices skyrocketing around here. But here's to reality, and learning to be patient... Looks like it's time to start that Vangaurd account.

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2015, 06:44:05 AM »
Maybe if house prices are skyrocketing they will dip again. One can hope.

I think you can look at a season with roommates as practice for renting out rooms. Some similar issues are bound to come up.

My years with housemates were better than my years renting by myself in terms of my social life, having company built in at home but also hosting and attending more parties, that sort of thing. My best friends from post-college are mostly former housemates. My current housemates have been gone a couple days for Thanksgiving, and I already miss them.

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2015, 08:06:33 AM »
My husband and I live in West Seattle and rent. We got a super lucky as the property manager (not owner) was renting out a 2 bd/1bath apartment for 1150. So we got a steal of a deal.

Looking at CL, renting is more expensive than that here but still cheaper than downtown or the hill for example.

Going south is cheaper still so you could potentially find a place to buy that is affordable but like previous people mentioned, you should probably just rent and get a roommate and build up your funds

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 08:36:16 AM »
I just don't see how you're going to get a mortgage large enough for a house anywhere near Seattle if all you have to put down is $8k. Rent a while, save your money, and then decide whether renting or owning makes more sense at that time.

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Re: So I grew a little peach fuzz on my upper lip...
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 02:04:27 PM »
Congratulations on getting out of debt and building up a savings account.

To me it seems a little risky to buy a house if $5000 is everything you have saved. It may be better to live with roommates for a year or two and build your savings while you look for just the right opportunity to buy. With roommates, both the rent and the utility bills will be lower.

I'd go ahead and start the Vanguard account and also look for a good roommate situation. There may be more places available during the summer, so you might sublet until then.

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