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goalphish2002

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Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« on: March 01, 2018, 07:52:02 AM »
This forum is full of competent people that shoot me straight.  I have no experience in this (we have some drones at work I could play with).  Does anyone think this would be worth an investment of education and training?  Any ideas of what this entails (I've done some research but don't know firsthand what it means)?  My company will not give me training in this.  This would be my own investment.  I suppose I could get some benefit from them on the backend, but I am not banking on this. 

Encourage me or shoot me down!!!  I welcome all opinions.  :D 
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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2018, 07:54:34 AM »
It sounds hella cool. If it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, do it anyway!

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2018, 08:25:29 AM »
a guy I work with occasionally also does this. He gets 1k a day for high quality video shoots for a PR firm. He gets at least 2 or 3 gigs a year like this. His brother owns the PR firm.  It definitely pays for all of his drone hobby and is cool.


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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2018, 08:31:02 AM »
It's becoming popular to have drone footage of weddings, too.

And of course the military pays civilian drone operators big bucks, but that's a career move and not a side gig.  Not to mention the ethical considerations, there, so ...

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 08:38:09 AM »
It's becoming popular to have drone footage of weddings, too.

And of course the military pays civilian drone operators big bucks, but that's a career move and not a side gig.  Not to mention the ethical considerations, there, so ...

Well, what I mean is this would begin as a hobby/PT gig.  Are you referring to bombing someone?  I was thinking of aerial videos and photography, but I assume other doors could open. 

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2018, 12:32:43 PM »
One thing to consider - autoflying drones are entering the market. Casey Neistat just posted a video in which a self flying drone followed Lance Armstrong around.

This tech is only going to get better and cheaper, and while there will still be tons of people that will hire out a filmography no matter what, they'll be doing so because they're getting someone who does it all (close ups, timelapses, editing, etc) not just gets drone video.

Otherwise it's pretty likely they'll just drop the 300-900 on a self flying drone they can keep instead of paying you to fly one around and give them raw footage.

No doubt it's fun though. Like my hobby of woodworking, it's far more likely that you'll spend more than you make :)


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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2018, 01:07:45 PM »
The last I heard/read (and it has been a while in rapidly changing field) is that the rules and license fees are horrendously prohibitive.

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2018, 01:35:22 PM »
https://jrupprechtlaw.com/get-faa-drone-pilot-license-first-time-current-pilots#need

Of note:
A flight must be "line of sight, under 55 pounds, daylight, less than 100 MPH, and below 400ft"

All of which are quite easy to violate and get yourself severely fined if caught (drone goes behind building = not line of sight for instance). The "bigger" jobs would require that you can exceed these part 107 requirements, which would entail thousands in training costs to become a real pilot.


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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 12:27:23 PM »
With the prices of drones these days, there’s not much risk involved in an endeavor like this. Yes, you’ll need to study for the test, become familiar with air space, maps, and far more knowledge than you’d ever think you’d have to know to fly a drone. But once you have your certification, there are an endless amount of opportunities. I just bought a DJI Mavic Pro in December and it’s already paid for itself 10x over with some real estate shoots. I have other plans for the drone but it’s so cheap ($1,000) that it’s hardly a risk if you’re considering using it commercially.

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 12:09:21 PM »
We had a drone come to our work site to complete structural inspections of exterior cladding on an annual basis.

Won't say where it was but the inspection was of two 20 story buildings using a drone with HD camera.

The price quotes ranged from $4900 to $7800. Overall we paid $6500 for two days of drone operation plus all travel fees covered.

If you really can earn $3000/day on a $1000 drone i'd say it's well worthwhile.


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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2018, 09:14:48 AM »
If you really can earn $3000/day on a $1000 drone i'd say it's well worthwhile.
That's kinda like saying a plumber can make $1000/day on a $6 plunger.

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2018, 08:48:11 AM »
We had a drone come to our work site to complete structural inspections of exterior cladding on an annual basis.

Won't say where it was but the inspection was of two 20 story buildings using a drone with HD camera.

The price quotes ranged from $4900 to $7800. Overall we paid $6500 for two days of drone operation plus all travel fees covered.

If you really can earn $3000/day on a $1000 drone i'd say it's well worthwhile.

I've seen refineries pay similar numbers, but its not just about the drone, the guy writing the report has a pile of API inspection certifications or an engineering license. who knows how much of that moola the drone jockey saw.

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2018, 09:55:03 AM »
With the prices of drones these days, there’s not much risk involved in an endeavor like this. Yes, you’ll need to study for the test, become familiar with air space, maps, and far more knowledge than you’d ever think you’d have to know to fly a drone. But once you have your certification, there are an endless amount of opportunities. I just bought a DJI Mavic Pro in December and it’s already paid for itself 10x over with some real estate shoots. I have other plans for the drone but it’s so cheap ($1,000) that it’s hardly a risk if you’re considering using it commercially.

With ever photographer, and wannabe photographer, having an easy to fly drone these days this market must be pretty saturated. I'd be curious how "endless" these opportunities are. If something is easy to do there's always tons of people willing to do it, usually for less than I..

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2018, 10:41:00 AM »
With the prices of drones these days, there’s not much risk involved in an endeavor like this. Yes, you’ll need to study for the test, become familiar with air space, maps, and far more knowledge than you’d ever think you’d have to know to fly a drone. But once you have your certification, there are an endless amount of opportunities. I just bought a DJI Mavic Pro in December and it’s already paid for itself 10x over with some real estate shoots. I have other plans for the drone but it’s so cheap ($1,000) that it’s hardly a risk if you’re considering using it commercially.

With ever photographer, and wannabe photographer, having an easy to fly drone these days this market must be pretty saturated. I'd be curious how "endless" these opportunities are. If something is easy to do there's always tons of people willing to do it, usually for less than I..
Great point, no doubt. The barrier to entry that keeps most folks out at this point is a) the certification, and b) the lack of willingness to research the certification. Most folks lose interest when they realize there’s red tape to get through. It’s a constantly evolving industry and the endless opportunities will quickly begin disappearing with time. It may seem that the drone market is saturated, but it’s all relative. It’s only going to continue growing, and these years will seem like the very beginning of an era, like looking back at AOL and Netscape Navigator today.

For real estate, I charge $300 for 20 minutes of flight, and an hour of editing, which pans out to a decent hourly rate. We’re also incorporating the drone into our wedding photography, which runs $500 per hour. We live in a ranching community as well, and there are opportunities to now herd cattle with drones, as well as finding cattle amongst the 10,000 acre ranches and BLM leases. And I have a friend using a drone in his residential and commercial inspection business, though I couldn’t tell you what kind of money is in that industry.

Those are just a small handful of ideas. I’m sure the folks around here could come up with far more creative and innovative ways to make money with drones.

In another 5 or 10 years, it may be too saturated or too regulated, as you suggest. But in the meantime, for a $1,000 investment, it’s not a huge risk to see what kind of return on investment you can make.
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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2018, 10:52:00 AM »
With the prices of drones these days, there’s not much risk involved in an endeavor like this. Yes, you’ll need to study for the test, become familiar with air space, maps, and far more knowledge than you’d ever think you’d have to know to fly a drone. But once you have your certification, there are an endless amount of opportunities. I just bought a DJI Mavic Pro in December and it’s already paid for itself 10x over with some real estate shoots. I have other plans for the drone but it’s so cheap ($1,000) that it’s hardly a risk if you’re considering using it commercially.

With ever photographer, and wannabe photographer, having an easy to fly drone these days this market must be pretty saturated. I'd be curious how "endless" these opportunities are. If something is easy to do there's always tons of people willing to do it, usually for less than I..
Great point, no doubt. The barrier to entry that keeps most folks out at this point is a) the certification, and b) the lack of willingness to research the certification. Most folks lose interest when they realize there’s red tape to get through. It’s a constantly evolving industry and the endless opportunities will quickly begin disappearing with time. It may seem that the drone market is saturated, but it’s all relative. It’s only going to continue growing, and these years will seem like the very beginning of an era, like looking back at AOL and Netscape Navigator today.

For real estate, I charge $300 for 20 minutes of flight, and an hour of editing, which pans out to a decent hourly rate. We’re also incorporating the drone into our wedding photography, which runs $500 per hour. We live in a ranching community as well, and there are opportunities to now herd cattle with drones, as well as finding cattle amongst the 10,000 acre ranches and BLM leases. And I have a friend using a drone in his residential and commercial inspection business, though I couldn’t tell you what kind of money is in that industry.

Those are just a small handful of ideas. I’m sure the folks around here could come up with far more creative and innovative ways to make money with drones.

In another 5 or 10 years, it may be too saturated or too regulated, as you suggest. But in the meantime, for a $1,000 investment, it’s not a huge risk to see what kind of return on investment you can make.

I was curious so googled drone photo jobs and a few came up here. One said $30-65/hr. For an RE firm. But sounded like they do it as part of a RE photo package. Imagine it's mainly photo firms that do this at this point. Why hire out  to some rando..?
But if it works for you now good for you. I did actually own a $1k drone a few months, but couldn't justify sitting on such and expensive toy so sold it.

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2018, 06:24:46 PM »
Realtors may use firms for run of the mill 3BR / 2BA homes on 0.11 acres in the suburbs. But they rarely use firms for high dollar homes with land. All of the ranches in our area require a drone to showcase the property and the views. So I suppose that’s where the real money is at. Realtors don’t seem to mind spending more on quality photos and videos when the listing is over a million dollars.

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Re: Side Gig as Drone Pilot - Good Idea?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2018, 06:56:27 PM »
People who did this a few years ago made an absolute fortune.

I imagine rates are coming down. But it's still probably quite workable.