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Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« on: December 05, 2014, 09:27:28 AM »
Here's my dilemma: When I was in college I camped fairly often and had some basic supplies, most of which are gone. Now I am married with two kids, live in beautiful Washington State and desperately want to get my young boys camping. But any trip to REI leaves me feeling paralyzed as I add up in my head the cost of buying a 4 person tent, 3 or 4 sleeping bags, backpacks, etc. I would love to hear some ideas on how I can transition back into camping while keeping a fairly strict budget. What are the essential supplies, and which ones can I safely avoid? Where are the best places to shop for both new and used? What can safely be purchased used? If I am not careful, I would end up buying $2,000 worth of supplies in an afternoon at REI, but really cannot justify that.
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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 09:29:57 AM »
REI = expensive
we've had great luck with Sierra Trading Post, walmart, Amazon
You should have a lot of decent gear on Craigslist in your area.

Best of luck!

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 09:33:52 AM »
Ask friends/family first. They may have a stash of unused stuff they would love to free up the space. Or even let you borrow it to see if its something you would keep up

You have all winter to search craigslist. I'd make a list of what you need and check there first. Bonus is most people get rid of all their camping stuff usually not just parts and pieces.

Anything you can't find by the end of the winter you can buy. For family camping, REI might be overkill for most stuff as you probably won't be roughing it in the backcountry.

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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 09:35:14 AM »
IMO if you get your boys out there in nature spending time with you, then it's a worthwhile investment. Just shop around.

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 09:38:54 AM »
First iteration:  Beg, borrow or buy at the thrift store a cheap tent that will fit everybody.  Grab pillows and blankets off the beds and go.  Roast hot dogs over the campfire.  Move up from there.  Sleeping bags often show up at the thrift store too or new ones make great Christmas gifts.

I live in WA State too and totally agree that it's a great place to camp.  We do it almost every vacation.

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 09:41:51 AM »
similar dilemma. I would really like to get into camping and backpacking....but holy f is quality stuff expensive. My thoughts: bite the bullet and buy what you want. It should last a decade as long as you don't seriously abuse it. Plus, the health benefits of being outdoors and spending quality time with your family...sounds worth it.

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2014, 10:20:55 AM »
Ask at REI about the used gear sales that they have multiple times a year, and get there early.  Because of REI's phenomenal return policy, they have a lot of good used gear to unload regularly, and you can get some killer prices.  It's also a great way to buy hiking socks.  REI's return policy is also why I buy all of my more expensive gear through them. If something goes wrong with it I can return it, at least in the first year.

If you are car camping and not expecting a monsoon there are perfectly good cheep tents available just about everywhere.  For backpacking for the kids, external frame packs tend to be cheaper, and are often available at hunting supply stores. I'd also wonder what sort of response you might get from posting a wanted add on freecycle.

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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 10:38:28 AM »
I recently nabbed a nice tent at a yard sale for $20.  They had some 4~8 people tents available as well.. keep an eye out for yardsale listings and craigslist!

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 10:43:02 AM »
1. craigslist (they have a "wanted" section...worth a try...people are trying to unload stuff now)
2. friends/family
3. thrift stores
4. Wal-Mart (where I bought my dual fuel lanterns/stoves, altho  my backups were from craigslist)
5. barter...provide a service (dog watching?) in exchange for borrowing some equipment

Also...if you just have to have some gear...between now and New Year's there will be some megasales. If it's stuff you have to have.

And cross season is totally the time to buy: knew a guy in the Yukon territory who bought canoes every fall/winter and sold them for twice the price come spring. Now is a great time for summer gear.

I've been saving up to get some things at Tractor Supply because tomorrow night for a few hours they have a 25% off sale. Pretty cool socks, some camping stuff there as well.

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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2014, 10:52:00 AM »
Our local Boy Scout troop urges new scouts to borrow, rent, or buy inexpensive equipment at first. A minimalist approach to equipment can make the camping experience far more enjoyable when you're not having to lug a bunch of stuff. Scouts are encouraged to earn money to buy their own stuff as they learn what they want. REI is good for the high tech stuff, but that's not necessary until you find out the kind of camping & cooking you enjoy. Car camping is completely different from backpacking. (By car camping, I mean where you have a very short distance from the vehicle to your campsite, so weight & size are not as much of a factor. Backpacking assumes that you will hike a significant distance to your campsites, so everything you bring must be super light & small, i.e. expensive.)

It's not fun being cold and/or wet. Wear layers, clean socks, a knit cap (sleep with this when cold), waterproof jacket, quick dry pants & shirts. Sleeping bags or bed rolls should have something under them like an inflatable mat or low collapsible cot. Stuff sack with spare clothes for a pillow or the kind that squish down into a sack & expand when released.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 10:59:43 AM »
We car camp in state parks with a 4 and 7 year old, and have since they were in-utero.  Here is our set-up, which leans towards the minimal side compared to the average family we see.  That's because most people are crazy, not because we are really minimalists.  All together it fits in maybe 3 Rubbermaid tubs in the basement.

Tent:  less than 50$ at Cabelas, it is a basic four person coleman, and it's indestructible.  REI is not the place to tent shop if you are car camping. 
Sleeping bags:  2 nice ones purchased new at rei, 2 picked up used, even the two used ones are super warm down, but they don't pack nearly as small.  Great Christmas gift.
Pads:  probably new, but not high end from rei.  Just run of the mill.  They don't get tiny, who cares for car camping.

Lattern and flashlights- you may have these around already.  If not consider the crank ones for kids or you will be replacing batteries like mad.

Cooking/eating stuff:  get one pot, maybe two, and cook simple stuff.  Thrift stores are great for these.  Cook only simple one pot meals, of make ahead, freeze, then dump in the pot and heat up (chili, etc) Get the basic Coleman stove, every state and national park runs a pretty good chance of having pieces and parts if some thing goes wrong.  Get one set of basic plates and silverware.  Throw a few old dish towels in the tub from your kitchen. 

Really that's about it.  You might want sun hats or a small backpack for day hikes, and water bottles, but you probably have most of that.  Rain gear is nice, but you probably already have raincoats at least.  Hiking boots aren't needed for the kind of hikes you tend to do with kids. 



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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2014, 11:10:36 AM »
Well, I have an idea that I wish you'd do...

Why don't you buy good supplies for your family and then rent the equipment on vrbo or airbnb or something to people, like me, who would love to go camping in the Pacific NW in the summer but live elsewhere and hate the hassle of trying to figure out solutions to arriving without camping gear. I got this idea because where I live, I noticed a couple people renting a tent in their backyards on AirBnB and I thought it was a clever idea, but to take it a step further and allow the equipment to be taken elsewhere, too, like to national parks and the like.

That way, it's all a tax write-off, AND you get to use it, AND you'd be helping people like me. If you rent the equipment for, say, $35/day, or $300/week, or whatever, you'd have it paid for in about ten weeks' time.

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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2014, 11:35:05 AM »
I like REI, but it's a good place to go broke.  We used to have a chain of stores called G.I. Joes, and they were even better but are gone now.  I did recently buy a new MSR water filter at REI though.

I got my nice sleeping bag and Thermorest at GI Joes when I was working a bunch of over time...
My MSR tent from a guy on Craigslist
My Optimus back packing stove was free, but I had to rebuild it so 18 bucks of parts.  I seriously considered upgrading to an MSR stove from REI but after looking at the new one hard, I don't think it's as good as my old Optimus.  Certainly no better.
I found a really comfortable (but heavy!) internal frame Hi-Tec backpack at a place in Corvallis called Play It Again Sports, that sells second hand sports stuff.  It was pretty cheap and in perfect condition. 
Garage sales, too.
All of my back packing stuff except the pack will also work well for bicycle touring.

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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2014, 11:43:56 AM »
Definitely agree with others here, used is the way to go for everything you'd need or want.  Do you know how many people go to REI, buy a killer tent for $600, use it twice, and then let it sit in their garage for 10 years?  Lots.  As long as it's not moldy or mildew-y it should be just fine.  Worst case scenario is you have to buy some tent sealant for $15.  Craigslist would be where I'd look.

Other than a tent, you need very little if you're car camping, which is probably the best way to start.  Something to keep you off the ground like an air mattress or tent pad is nice for both warmth and comfort.  The rest depends on how cold it will be.  In the summer, we don't even bring sleeping bags, just sheets, blankets, & pillows.

A cooler for food (& beer).  Make some sandwiches, bring some veggies and dip, fruits, chips, and the kids love smores, and you don't even need to cook anything.  Don't forget the water.

The only other things you need are bug repellant, flashlights, newspaper/lighter/matches for your fire, and maybe some camping chairs to sit on.  Oh, and maybe a knife to whittle some sticks to roast marshmallows in the fire.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2014, 11:54:16 AM »
There is not one item at REI that can't be purchased for less elsewhere, they're just ridiculous.  Around here (Tucson) we have at least two 2nd hand stores devoted to sporting - Bookman's sporting exchange, and Play It Again sports. 

If you're really interested in camping and not just Finding A New Sport, ala marketing campaigns, then start from the beginning.  You will be:  eating, sleeping, sitting around maybe playing games, walking around, and most likely using a pre-constructed bathroom.  Possibly in the rain, possibly in the dark, with somewhat uncontrollable temperatures.  You know how to do all that already!

So start with what you know and what you have.  Make it a short trip, close to home (or even in your own backyard for the very first adventure, if you have a yard.)  Blankets and pillows are ok for sleeping, a suitcase is ok for packing up clothes or 'stuff', a bookbag can be used for a day hike, sneakers and jeans are ok for short beginner hikes, eating packaged food in the woods is not a crime.  You will need a big enough tent that doesn't leak.  It's nice to be able to warm up food/drinks.  Assuming your cohorts are also interested in making this work, you can discuss what worked and what would be really nice for next time, and build a customized camping protocol around your personal experience.  Have Fun!   

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2014, 12:24:09 PM »
I say buy good quality gear, whether used or new.

I do like REI, but I would definitely not buy things there at full price.  If you become a member and get the REI VISA, you get some percentage back (I have forgotten what the percentage is).  You can also check the REI Outlet for stuff on sale.

Sierra Trading Post also has awesome prices.  (Though I had a weird run-in with the company president when I asked to be removed from the mailing list because I didn't like the biblical scripture in the catalog!)

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2014, 02:02:22 PM »
To add to all the previous great suggestions: we have gotten some pretty good deals at local army surplus stores.  They have had a good selection of camping supplies that are way less than REI-either by not being REI or because it's not Mt. Everest rated equipment.  For getting outfitted for a big kayak race (340 miles) I had some great luck getting used dry bags and some other supplies off of ebay.  Type in what you are looking for and select used to find those that are getting rid of their old stuff.  It may take longer but you can save some big money and it's easy to check several times a day for new listings.  I bought a couple of lots that had items included that I now use regularly that I never would have thought to use other wise.  We also got an awesome 10 person tent at Costco for $120 (a self closing door and I can stand up in it at 6'2", talk about staying at the Ritz!).  We also got some great lanterns and flashlights from there so keep your eyes out for seasonal specials in stores like that.


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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2014, 02:39:31 PM »
+1 To buying used and buying cheap. Check out Walmart. Ebay is good this time of year when people can't imagine the sun is ever going to come back. You have no idea if the kids will like camping and they will outgrow lots of the stuff (even the tent as they take up the idea that they want their own). 

Your key thing is avoiding extreme discomfort, like by bringing extra clothes and a proper first aid kit, not hiking too far for little kids, etc. So that they basically have a good experience. Don't go the high-tech equipment route and make them take that comfort for granted, or turn into gearheads who mistake enjoyment of their equipment for enjoyment of nature. One upside of buying name-brand gear used is that you might re-sell it for not much less than you bought it, but then you'll be worrying the kids about not messing it up.

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2014, 04:56:12 PM »
You need the three basics, Food, Water, Shelter.  Food you can pack pre-made from home in the cooler, water you can bring in a big jug (or small & refill at the campsite), and shelter all you need is a tent and something to sleep on.  Somebody above suggested S'Mores, definitely go for some fun snacks like this if you don't usually provide that food, it's a great bribe to keep the little ones happy.  Also good to pack are bikes, floatation devices, goggles or snorkels, frisbees, books, broom (or just hand broom), firewood, cooking stove with pot, kitchen tub for dishes, soap, toilet paper (even if they provided on site), bug spray/repellant, cortisone cream for when the spray doesn't work.  You probably have most of these, and I'm sure there's more to list.  Out of the ones there I can only imagine you would need to buy firewood and a cooking stove, maybe bug repellant.
 
If there's Bi-Mart in your part of Washington they're a great place to get cheap gear (sleeping bags, stoves, chairs, cookwear, etc.).  It's $5 to become a lifetime member there.  I've also had great success at local hardware/outdoor stores (more common in rural communities).  As long as you're buying the cheap stuff, it shouldn't cost much more than the same item would for your home.  For example, a sleeping bag for $20 is similar to a blanket, those blue-speckled plates and cups for $1 to $3 each is about what a decent new coffee mug or plate would cost for the home.  It's only when things are being made either very small, very light, or both (Ahem, REI), that they get expensive. 
 
If there's a well stocked thrift store in your area you can pick up plastic cups, an old pot/pan, and some old utensils to use exclusively for camping and store them all together when not in use.  Much easier to deal with packing everything you need for a weekend when it's already packed :).

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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2014, 05:50:36 PM »


Ebay, Craigslist, Garage sales.

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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2014, 06:27:54 PM »
To be clear, are you planning on car camping or backpacking?

For car camping, it is really basic, just a sleeping bag per person and a tent . . . lighting of some sort is handy.

If you want to go backpacking with the family, you need more gear.

I don't know what side of the state you are on, but in addition to all of the advice that everyone has mentioned, I would add that in the East Side of the state, Mountain Goat Outfitters (Spokane) has deals upstairs and in Seattle 2nd ascent occasionally has some pretty great deals.

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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2014, 08:48:36 PM »
I hadn't thought through the backpacking vs. car camping question. To be honest with you, part of me has a knee-jerk reaction against car camping because it feels like cheating and all my college buddies were purists and we would always backpack into the woods. To be honest with myself, my little family is nowhere near ready for that and starting with car camping is probably a great first step. Once we master that, we can consider backpacking.

Thanks for all the great replies, everyone! All very helpful.

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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2014, 08:52:30 PM »
REI is great...for figuring out what you need. Then you buy it used off craigslist, obviously. :)

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2014, 08:55:22 PM »
1.  Ask family and friends if they have free stuff
2. Check CL all winter
3. Army Surplus Store:  their prices are amazing for really good stuff
4.  Sierra Trading Post:  much better pricing than REI

Last:  REI if you won the lottery

I think on CL you will find just about everything.

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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2014, 10:22:21 PM »
The best thing about REI, they rent equipment.    You can rent everything you need from REI for a weekend camping or backpacking trip for about the same price as a hotel room.    I'd suggest that you try that first and see if your kids even like camping.

My wife and I used to love to camp, then we moved to Colorado.    My wife has a thyroid disorder and can't really handle very cold weather, neither can my young children.   You can't really camp in Colorado anywhere that gets above 40 degrees at night in the mountains.    So all my lovely camping gear currently sits unused.

If I didn't already have the gear I'd be super bummed if I blew lots of money on things we didn't use.

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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2014, 05:22:40 PM »
Seattle must have a used gear store - see if you do.  I've bought lots of gear in second hand gear shops near me and they are great because they are cheaper than new, but still tend to impose pretty good quality control on the items they resell, so you will be getting good stuff.  Also, if you think you may be buying some stuff at REI, join and make sure you go to their garage sales - they sell barely used returns at these for probably between 50-80% off.  And.... if you live in Washington State, go cheap on the sleeping bags, not the tent.  Being in a leaky tent in the rain is miserable. 

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2014, 07:07:13 PM »
Everyone's suggestions are great!  I recommend taking baby steps.  No need to gear all the way up for your first trip.  Besides a tent, you can get by with things from your home - blankets, pillows, flashlights, water bottles, etc.  You can cook over a fire in a pot from home.  Once you get out there and make sure you all like it, I'm a big proponent of camping gear as gifts.  I received a sleeping bag as a Christmas present as a kid and I loved it.  We did the same for my son.  He's received a headlamp and a sleeping bag as gifts from us.  You can get a good cheap tarp from Walmart.  We used one for a year-long camping trip and it is still holding up.  We do have a lot of pricey gear, but the cost per use for us is pitifully low since we use it so much (that's what a year-long camping trip will do for you).  Also, once you have a sleeping bag and a ground pad, you can save money when traveling in hotels/airbnbs/etc. getting more people into a smaller space. 

So my recommendation is start with a tent and a tarp (you live in the Pacific NW, so you probably already thought of this) - and you really don't have to spend a lot of money if you're car camping.  Make sure you have flashlights and bottles to hold water (I'm sure you do) and see what y'all think.  Any chance you have freecycle out there?  You could put up a request for camping equipment.  Between that and Craigslist, you can probably get what you need.  I remember talking with an older lady in my church (she's probably about 96 or so) and she told me that when she went camping as a child, they saved their newspapers and put that down on the ground as a groundpad.  She told me it kept her warmer, and recommended it to us before we left for our travels.  I can't vouch for that, but people have been camping (or living) outdoors without high-tech stuff for many years.  Don't let all the doodads and gizmos make you feel like you need lots of stuff to sleep outdoors. 

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2014, 08:59:52 PM »
When I was in college, we had an organization that sponsored outdoor activites -- overnights, hikes, whitewater rafting, rappelling, and so forth -- for very cheap prices.  Knowing that dorm students don't have room for camping "stuff", they provided tents and so forth in the price of the outing . . . and on weeks when they weren't using it, any student could rent it SUPER CHEAPLY.  It was something like $2 for a tent, $4 for a sleeping bag (which came with a liner that was washed every time it was rented, which is why it was one of the more expensive items).  Of course, that was in the 80s, so I'd expect the prices to be higher now. 

The point:  Check with colleges, scout troops, camping stores to see if they RENT before you buy. 

Check, too, to see if any of your state or national parks rent platform tents that're already set up and ready for guests. 

One Christmas we got our family a smallish tent and got the kids good sleeping bags.  We pulled back the sofas and set it all up for Christmas morning.  It was a good year!

Used stuff on ebay is a great way to go. 

A decade ago I bought a NEW very nice three-room tent for about $50 on ebay, and we're still using it.  I store it in one of those plastic tubs from Walmart.  Tent note:  If you're a four-person family with kids, you want more than a four-person tent.  A four person tent assumes that you ONLY want space for sleeping and that you enjoy sleeping VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.  And do invest in a good tarp to put underneath the tent; otherwise your floor won't last long.   

You do want to buy good sleeping bags for everyone -- at least eventually.  Nothing turns kids off of camping like sleeping cold.  You want SLEEPING BAGS, not slumber bags.  How can you tell the difference?  Well, if it has a picture of a cartoon character on the front, it's a slumber bag.  A quality sleeping bag is an investment.  After much research and saving, I bought a 0-degree semi-mummy sleeping bag with poly-holifill when I was 15, and 30 years later, it still looks like new.  I worked several summers as a camp counselor, I worked for a camping store and led trips (not REI -- a private place), I camped across the country twice, and I couldn't begin to tell you how many scout camping trips, church camping trips, and family camping trips it's seen.  I've never once been cold in that bag.  However, I treat it like a baby:  I don't store it squished up in its bag, and I wash it properly.  Remember, too, that a sleeping bag is made to work in conjunction with a mattress pad; I recommend closed-cell knee-length pads -- they require no blowing up and are great quality for their weight. 

You don't really need a great deal of specialized equipment to go camping: 

- You probably have a couple cast iron skillets and a cooler.  If you're going to invest in camp-cooking, make it a pie iron (on a stick); you can cook so much in those things. 
- Dollar store glow-sticks are great for kids instead of flashlights; I always used to give my scouts one to take to their sleeping bags at night. 
- You probably have some buckets for fire safety. 
- If you're able to transport the kids' bikes, take them.  At public campgrounds, kids seem to bond over biking riding.

Finally, I'll echo what another poster said: Baby steps.  You want your kids to enjoy this activity, so start with a couple hikes, then camp in the back yard, then move into "real camping".  And bring along plenty of activities:  Board games or cards, nature books, science experiments.  Something my kids used to LOVE:  Put a piece of duct tape around their wrist (inside out) when you go on a hike; let them collect leaves, acorns, and so forth as they walk.  Kids are used to being able to switch on the TV anytime they please, so being bored is torture to them. 


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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2014, 09:09:52 PM »
Even if you insist on buying new and paying retail from a physical store, you'll pay a 50% markup at REI over buying the equivalent items from Cabela's or SportCo. 

Generally speaking, places that cater to hunters and fisherman offer the same stuff at greatly reduced prices compared to places that cater to mountaineers and yuppies.  At least for all of the basic items you might need.

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2014, 10:34:32 AM »
I thought you were going to post something along the lines of; sleeping on rocks, eating cold food, being wet and shitting in the bushes was too luxurious a holiday for a mustachian and was there any advice on making it less indulgent !

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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2014, 01:30:33 PM »
OK - so OP you've clarified that you'll start off car camping.  Great, that simplifies the matter a lot since your gear can be the inexpensive Coleman / Cabella's / Walmart / Target / Big 5 / Sportco type (e.g. heavy / bulky).  Note that when you take up backpacking, you'll have very little overlap in gear from the car camping stuff.

As far as where to find the stuff - as others have said, CL is a goldmine.  Specific other places to look include Play It Again Sports (5 stores centered around Seattle, another in Vancouver, WA for SW / Portland) & 2nd Ascent in Ballard for used gear.  I don't know what's in Eastern Washington as far as used gear shops.

Another Washington specific place to go it to www.NWHIKERS.net and their gear forum - there will be a LOT of folks there that can give specific advice of where to score used gear.  Lots of folks there in the Buy / Sell forum could probably hook you up with 2nd hand gear at used prices. 

Now -for the specific questions of what you'll need for car camping and what to get that is inexpensive.  Generally I'll recommend the Coleman type equipment for summer car camping as it's adequate for the conditions you can expect and, within reason, weight / bulk aren't an issue when car camping, unlike when backpacking, bike touring or kayak camping.  I'll assume you'll cherry pick a bit on the weather and NOT go out into a week of solid heavy rain like we can sometimes get in August in the Cascades.

Shelter - get yourself a large, dome Coleman type tent that will comfortably fit your family and allow you to stand to change clothes.  These are inexpensive and you won't care about the weight / bulk since you don't have to carry it.  Cut out a sheet of plastic (painting section of hardware store) to be about 2" smaller in each direction than the floor and use this as the ground cloth and moisture / vapor barrier under the tent when you set up.  Even in dry conditions, the ground has a lot of moisture that can wick up into the bottom of a tent.  No need for fancy "footprints" when a cheap sheet of plastic does the job well.

Sleeping Bags - get your family the cheap, rectangular Coleman types.  They'll be more than adequate for fair weather summer car camping.  If you're interested in going in more marginal / colder conditions, consider "proper" (e.g. mummy shape, down or high end synthetic, higher end) sleeping bags.  Once you take up backpacking, buy the best bag you can afford - a high end down lightweight backpacking sleeping bag is a "buy it for life" item.  The one I bought back in 2001 (Marmot Arroyo, 30 degree, 800 fill down) has 3,000 miles plus on it - I used it on my PCT thru hike and it's STILL good to go for many more years.  Store sleeping bags uncompressed else you'll destroy the down's ability to loft and loft = warmth.

Sleeping pads - here is where I'll suggest spending a little bit of money to get some comfort - well rested family = happy family.  Go back to REI and check out the lower to lower mid price point inflatable air mattresses.  You won't need the high end back packing ones.  The GF and I got some comfy ones we use for car camping and kayak camping (they're heavier than the foam ones we use for backpacking, but take up less volume under the hatches, even though they're heavier).  Be sure to store them with the valves open so they naturally inflate - under the bed is a good location.  Only squeeze out the air when packing for a trip - open the valves and store under the bed when you get home.  Or just get the cheaper Coleman type inflatable at Target / Walmart.

Cooking gear - 2 burner Coleman propane stove - inexpensive, bulletproof, easy to use.  Use the 16 ounce throw away cylinders.  Find it used or buy for under $40 new at Walmart (I just googled that).  As far as pots / pans - that's what your kitchen is for when car camping.  Break out your typical fry pans, pots, spatulas, forks, knives, mugs, etc.  If you're a coffee person, one specific piece of gear I'd recommend for car camping is a French Press - look at Bed Bath and Beyond or similar places for a plastic one - they are a good substitute for the at home drip.

Lanterns - I'd suggest a couple of LED lanterns and headlamps for everyone.  Skip the propane / white gas - batteries aren't that expensive and are far less of a hassle that futzing with mantles and fuel.  Headlamps are easier to use than flashlights - hands can focus on cooking, etc instead of holding the light.  Get cheap headlamps for the kids.  Get nicer ones for the adults - lower end Petzl are a good choice (shop on the REI website, buy elsewhere), or the cheap ones at the check out at Lowes.  Get one / two lanterns for general camp lighting.  Note that if you're doing summer car camping in Washington, it's light out until 9 and gets light at 5 in the morning in the middle of summer, so you won't need too much light.

Other than the above, you shouldn't need much more purchased gear, especially if you're doing the State / USFS Campground route.  Perhaps some folding chairs.  All in, even going new at Walmart / Target for most of the stuff you shouldn't spend more than $500-$700 to set yourself up pretty well.
Large Coleman 4-6 person dome tents can be had for under $100 at Walmart.  Bags, $25-50 / person.  Stove, $40.  Headlamps / lanterns - under 100 for the whole family.  Saw coleman pads for $25 / each.  And that's new.....check C/L and other places for used.

If you're doing dispersed forest camping, some of the blue collapsible water jugs are handy.  You'll want a trowel / small shovel for digging your latrine / cat holes.  Hand sanitizer, of course. 

If you're going to take the kids on day hikes I'd suggest they all have size appropriate day packs - cheap book bag types are more than adequate for kids to carry a jacket, small water bottle (hint - one liter water / soda bottles work very well and are very light and tough - skip the purpose water bottles - heavy and expensive), snacks, their headlight.  Get each of the kids a whistle (kept on their pack or on a lanyard they wear) and teach them to stay put and blow the whistle 3 times (loud) then count to 50 and repeat until they're found while they turn on their headlight to flashing mode (if getting dark).  Don't load the kids down....just their jackets, water, snacks / lunch, light, whistle.

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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2014, 11:45:18 AM »
No Name Guy's advice above is spot on. REI is great for (some) really technical gear, but that's it. If you start looking around your house you probably have a lot of stuff you can use already. I had friends that didn't even use sleeping bags when car camping, they just took a bunch of blankets and pillows and shoved them in the tent. I never understood car campers that have a whole specialty 'camping' set of spatulas and utensils and cookware. Don't you just pack up some kitchen basics and drive up to your new temporary outdoor kitchen? A fork is a fork, amirite?

Also if you camp with friends you can pool resources and not need to spring for things like a cookstove yet.

Coleman tents really are indestructible. We've used our two person tent regularly for 8 years now. We've taken it backpacking too, and it blows for that but ultralight tents are expensive. Soon, REI, soon.

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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2014, 11:59:34 AM »
Garage sales and places like goodwill can be great places to buy used supplies. The end of summer is usually a good time to buy a tent on sale. I don't think you need expensive sleeping bags if you will mostly be camping in the summer, when it's nice here in WA. Sleeping bags would make nice xmas gifts for the boys... and they can use them for things like sleepovers too.

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Re: Mustachian Camping Dilemma
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2014, 02:05:47 PM »
If you want new and don't need the really compact stuff, Big 5 has great deals.