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bmjohnson35

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Seeking Input on IRA Options
« on: January 03, 2023, 10:59:16 AM »

I'm in the process of researching Mutual Fund Providers as an alternative to my existing 401k Provider (Charles Schwab).  I'm seriously considering rolling my 401k funds into an IRA account. I'm presently looking at T. Rowe Price, Fidelity, American Funds and Vanguard.  I have also been a longtime customer of a Vanguard brokerage account and a few small IRA accounts. I have generally gravitated toward Index funds.  I have never used a Target Date type of mutual fund retirement account, but as I look into them, they seem to be structured very similarly to my personal investment portfolio breakdown anyway.  I will likely start taking some distributions from my retirement accounts somewhere between 9-12 years from now.

1.  What are your thoughts on a Target Date Mutual fund vs. your own allocation?

2.  Do you split your investments across different mutual fund providers or do you prefer to keep all your funds with one investment firm?

3. Is there any organization other than Morningstar that "objectively" rates mutual fund investment firms?

4. Aside from expense ratios, portfolio composition and/or historical returns, are there any less obvious factors you consider when comparing mutual funds? 

5. For those of you who are in your 60's and expect a reasonably long retirement lifespan (up to 90 or beyond), have you changed your portfolio allocation significantly or do you stay roughly the same?




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Re: Seeking Input on IRA Options
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2023, 12:27:35 PM »

I'm in the process of researching Mutual Fund Providers as an alternative to my existing 401k Provider (Charles Schwab).  I'm seriously considering rolling my 401k funds into an IRA account. I'm presently looking at T. Rowe Price, Fidelity, American Funds and Vanguard.  I have also been a longtime customer of a Vanguard brokerage account and a few small IRA accounts. I have generally gravitated toward Index funds.  I have never used a Target Date type of mutual fund retirement account, but as I look into them, they seem to be structured very similarly to my personal investment portfolio breakdown anyway.  I will likely start taking some distributions from my retirement accounts somewhere between 9-12 years from now.

1.  What are your thoughts on a Target Date Mutual fund vs. your own allocation?

2.  Do you split your investments across different mutual fund providers or do you prefer to keep all your funds with one investment firm?

3. Is there any organization other than Morningstar that "objectively" rates mutual fund investment firms?

4. Aside from expense ratios, portfolio composition and/or historical returns, are there any less obvious factors you consider when comparing mutual funds? 

5. For those of you who are in your 60's and expect a reasonably long retirement lifespan (up to 90 or beyond), have you changed your portfolio allocation significantly or do you stay roughly the same?

1. I choose my own allocation, largely because Target Date funds have a higher ER.

2. I prefer to keep everything at one place; it just simplifies record-keeping. But there's nothing wrong with having stuff at more than one place.

3. Dunno. FWIW, I've seen a lot of chatter on a couple of forums about how Vanguard's customer service has gone downhill in recent years. It can take 45+ minutes to get a Vanguard rep on the phone these days, where at Fidelity, it's typically a few minutes. I still use Vanguard, but if it wasn't such a hassle, I'd consider moving to Fidelity. (I still may if I encounter problems.) Plus, Fidelity lets you purchase fractions of ETFs, while Vanguard does not. I've also heard decent things about Schwab as a brokerage firm.

4. My main consideration with mutual funds (index funds, in my case) is tax efficiency. So I keep bond funds in tax-deferred accounts (IRA), because they throw off dividends that are taxed as ordinary income. I keep stock funds in taxable accounts, because most of the stock fund income is long-term capital gains, which is taxed more advantageously. I also keep stock funds in after-tax accounts (Roth), because they seem to have the greatest growth potential.

5. This is an ongoing debate for me. I wouldn't mind changing to a more conservative AA, but I set my AA partly because of the level of return I'll need over time. The goal is sleep well at night (SWAN). For some people, that becomes more conservative in retirement. If someday I get a big enough windfall that I can change my AA to something more bond-heavy but still have enough $$, I might.

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Re: Seeking Input on IRA Options
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2023, 02:05:21 PM »
If you really can move money out of your 401k plan, ask the administrator what the plan fees are.  If they won't specify them more than saying they are in the fund fees, ask them what the fees are for a brokerage window account; that will make them explicit.

My 401k was with Fidelity, for a Fortune 50 company.  Our plan's fees were .11%.  For an index fund, that's a lot to add.

If you are comfortable enough to run your own money, then that's low-hanging fruit.

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Re: Seeking Input on IRA Options
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2023, 06:45:14 PM »
If you really can move money out of your 401k plan, ask the administrator what the plan fees are.  If they won't specify them more than saying they are in the fund fees, ask them what the fees are for a brokerage window account; that will make them explicit.

My 401k was with Fidelity, for a Fortune 50 company.  Our plan's fees were .11%.  For an index fund, that's a lot to add.

If you are comfortable enough to run your own money, then that's low-hanging fruit.

I definitely plan to dig into the fee structure of each option.  Even Vanguard has Target Date funds and the one appropriate for me has an expense ratio of .08%.  That's not bad at all.  I could move my money around into different funds in my 401k account (without penalty or tax implications) and I assume it will be similar for an IRA, but I will need to confirm this.

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Re: Seeking Input on IRA Options
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2023, 01:11:16 PM »
I would much rather maintain my own allocation than pay a target date fund to make up some glide path approach.

My allocation just prior to my retirement ~61 was ~75-25. Now I’m ~55-45 and do not rebalance.