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Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« on: February 14, 2014, 09:33:44 PM »
I have a friend looking to spend about that (but preferably less). What's your best recommendation?

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 09:40:36 PM »
What is the purpose of the car?  Commuting, hauling around heavy objects, kids, etc.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2014, 09:43:49 PM »
I'd say something like a 10 year old Civic that was driven by an old lady and doesn't have any backyard performance mods.   At 100,000 miles you should only have to spend $5000 or so and you're still good for at least another 100,000 miles with min to moderate maintenance costs.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2014, 10:09:37 PM »
What is the purpose of the car?  Commuting, hauling around heavy objects, kids, etc.

Work commute of about 15 miles each way with 2 kids from time to time aged 4 and 6 currently.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2014, 07:52:30 AM »
I think the source is an important as the car.  For example, my mother lives in an assisted living facility and some of the residents have cars, which they eventually stop driving.  I would think those cars have low miles for their years, are in good shape, and have a lower than typical price.
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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2014, 08:36:48 AM »
Pontiac Vibe.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2014, 12:07:14 PM »
Last summer I bought a 2007 Prius with 98k miles for just under $12k. It's been great. I have yet to fill up the gas tank for more than $29 and change and get 40mpg. Yes, I know I can optimize this -- I'm working on it. Great little car.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 12:19:04 PM »
Personally, I've fallen in love with older Honda Civics.  They'll run forever, get good gas mileage, are cheap, and seem to have lower-than-average repair costs.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2014, 12:23:56 PM »
Honda accords or civics.

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2014, 12:25:28 PM »
Scion XA. Gets gas mileage in the 40s, and you'd have room to put those kid's gear in there when they get older, meaning you won't have to trade in a smaller car for a "family car" or whatever.

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2014, 03:53:10 PM »
Lots of good recommendations, but I would also mention the Elantra Touring. The '09 or '10 models are pretty new still and they have tons of room. Reasonably priced.

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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2014, 03:53:51 PM »
The HOnda Fit is too small-does not feel safe to me.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2014, 04:24:13 PM »
I think the source is an important as the car.  For example, my mother lives in an assisted living facility and some of the residents have cars, which they eventually stop driving.  I would think those cars have low miles for their years, are in good shape, and have a lower than typical price.

I would tend to recommend against this as a rule (there are exceptions).  Cars that sit and don't get used tend to be more trouble prone than ones with higher miles that have been maintained appropriately.  Oil has a shelf life, old gasoline can damage fuel systems, critical rubber coolant hoses will dry rot, if left in the sun paint and interior plastic parts fade with exposure.

We recently purchased a 2007 Camry XLE V-6 w/93k miles for $12,000.  This was over your friend's budget, but only just.  If there's a need for extra space or a desire for comfort a 4cyl Camry can probably be scored for well within his budget.  Avoid the 4cyl model 2002-2006 Camry though, it has a nasty, and expensive issue with the cylinder head bolts stripping out on their own.  The Accord is an excellent option and tends to be more entertaining to drive than the Camry.

If you need practicality it's hard to beat a used Scion xB, Honda Fit, or Honda Element.  You won't lack for options if you go looking for a Civic or Corolla in this price range either.

If you enjoy driving and want a little fun to go along with your A to B you'd have no problems finding a well cared for Mazda Miata within that budget.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2014, 04:35:49 PM »
Thanks for the feedback everyone.  They settled on a 2007 Nissan Sentra with 90,000 miles for $7,300 all in.  3 previous owners. No wrecks.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2014, 10:44:08 PM »
40MPH on the highway.

Oh, so you're the guy always holding up the fast lane.

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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2014, 02:32:50 AM »
40MPH on the highway.

Oh, so you're the guy always holding up the fast lane.

Ha, as an owner of Civic Hybrid I can tell you that at 40 "MPG" he's probably doing 70+ on the freeway.    I was able to consistently get 52 MPG at 55 MPH for an entire year when I had a monster commute back in 07.    My wife can't seem to break 42 mpg, but she owns a consulting business that puts her all over town where she constantly has to rush to the next meeting so I don't fault her.

I had the luxury of leaving the house at 3:30 AM and having the entire freeway to myself, right outside of NYC at the time.    Definitely worth it for gas mileage.

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2014, 06:41:15 AM »
I would say it depends entirely on your latitude. If you are in the winter belt you want a more recent car(rust) and miles don't matter as much.
Toyotas and Hondas are obvious choices. They do sell for more but I think they are worth it.
I'm a big fan of AWD so my choice would be an older Subaru outback. It is going to drink more gas but that's something I am willing to live with. I would take the outback over the imprezas/legacys for more cargo space and lower insurance rates.

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2014, 07:00:02 AM »
Thanks for the feedback everyone.  They settled on a 2007 Nissan Sentra with 90,000 miles for $7,300 all in.  3 previous owners. No wrecks.

Hope it works out for them, but Nissans in my experience are crap.

I would have done a Civic or Fit for DIY folks, a hybrid if willing to take chance on battery lifespan, etc.

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2014, 07:29:19 AM »
40MPH on the highway.

Oh, so you're the guy always holding up the fast lane.

Ha, as an owner of Civic Hybrid I can tell you that at 40 "MPG" he's probably doing 70+ on the freeway.    I was able to consistently get 52 MPG at 55 MPH for an entire year when I had a monster commute back in 07.    My wife can't seem to break 42 mpg, but she owns a consulting business that puts her all over town where she constantly has to rush to the next meeting so I don't fault her.

I had the luxury of leaving the house at 3:30 AM and having the entire freeway to myself, right outside of NYC at the time.    Definitely worth it for gas mileage.

Bolded for emphasis.  Sheesh, if you say so! :)

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2014, 07:33:46 AM »
Hope it works out for them, but Nissans in my experience are crap.

I would have done a Civic or Fit for DIY folks, a hybrid if willing to take chance on battery lifespan, etc.

For the most part, Sentras have historically been pretty solid vehicles.  Nissan is an odd company to shop with, some of their cars are every bit as reliable as anything out there, but other models are prone to a variety of issues.

One word of warning I would issue is be careful with some of their early CVT equipped cars.  I don't know what the actual failure rates are, but their reputation for reliability among enthusiasts is on the sketchy side.

Personally, if I'm trying to maximize reliability and durability I'm probably going to get a Fit Sport.  If it's a second car, and I don't need to haul other people or things around, I'm getting an MX-5.

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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2014, 09:13:17 AM »
Camry, Civic, Matix (or vibe).

Now if you're gonna drive it until it dies and don't care about resell.

Any later model Accent, Elantra or Sonata.

You have good options for under 10k.

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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2014, 07:20:39 PM »
Thanks for the feedback everyone.  They settled on a 2007 Nissan Sentra with 90,000 miles for $7,300 all in.  3 previous owners. No wrecks.

Hope it works out for them, but Nissans in my experience are crap.

I would have done a Civic or Fit for DIY folks, a hybrid if willing to take chance on battery lifespan, etc.

Oi I have a Nissan. 2000 model, 1 old lady driver for 3 years who put 69,000 kms on it. 1 young male driver  for 10 years who drives like an even older lady who has only put a further 49,000 kms on it.

My little Pulsar is in better condition than most cars on the road today. Won't have a bar of any negative words said against it!

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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2014, 08:47:56 AM »
I starting to take a different approach. I look for newer cars that have high mileage. Most people see the mileage as bad but I look at it this way.
- Most newer cars get better MPG's
- Highway mile are easy on a car (City driving stop & goes is were most wear happen)
- Less dings
- Less Interior wear
- All the rubber/plastic parts are in better shape
- Most cars now-a-days can easily get you to 200K miles
- Less electrical problems
- Seals/gaskets are less likely to leak

I just bought a 2012 Ford Focus Hatch back for $10K. 60K miles, spotless inside and out, still smells new, manual trans (less parts to break), new tires, leather seats, power windows and mirrors but the seats are manual (less parts again), gets 32 MPG's to/from work and that's not highway. Car fax showed an oil change about 4,500 miles (Ford calls for every 6K). Plus if you think about hours on an engine vs miles. Which is a better way to look at wear. It would be less hours on engine to make it to 4,500 miles on highway (Even lower intervals on oil changes). I bought it from someone on Craigslist so I didn't have to pay for all the mark up. I looked at a few at Car Max and they wanted $18K for the same car. A lot of people buy from dealerships to feel better about warranties or financing but I'm a mechanic and pay cash. You can still purchase a warranty if you feel the need but I never used one in my 24 yrs of driving. If your not mechanically inclined then pay the money to have it inspected. 

 

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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2014, 09:17:38 AM »
My current favorites, should the SO crash her current car and get a check for $10,000 (fingers crossed!), would be either the Honda Fit or the 5 door Mazda 3.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2014, 02:29:47 PM »
Let's just say I'm keeping my 10+ year accord with 75k miles that edmunds says is worth around $6k

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2014, 03:31:12 PM »
40MPH on the highway.

Oh, so you're the guy always holding up the fast lane.

Ha, as an owner of Civic Hybrid I can tell you that at 40 "MPG" he's probably doing 70+ on the freeway.    I was able to consistently get 52 MPG at 55 MPH for an entire year when I had a monster commute back in 07.    My wife can't seem to break 42 mpg, but she owns a consulting business that puts her all over town where she constantly has to rush to the next meeting so I don't fault her.

I had the luxury of leaving the house at 3:30 AM and having the entire freeway to myself, right outside of NYC at the time.    Definitely worth it for gas mileage.

Bolded for emphasis.  Sheesh, if you say so! :)

Ha, well I only mean in terms of traffic and not pissing people off by driving 10 mph under the speed limit.

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Re: Recommendations for best used cars under $10,000?
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2014, 03:56:40 PM »
When I was carless and using the occasional Zipcar, the Honda Fit always impressed.  Heck of a car for the price, moderately fun to drive, and amazing cargo space.  I've fit some improbable garage sale finds in the back of a Fit.

The big problem for the used Honda Fit market (at least in the Boston area) is lack of supply.  People who have Fits don't get rid of them.  And the Fit has received such high acclaim that the demand for used Fits is intense.  This makes it a pricey used car purchase.  I consistently see 2010 models with 50-100k miles on them with asking prices of $10-13K.

But if you find a secret deal on a Fit, I'd jump on it.

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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2014, 05:52:03 PM »
I've been looking at used cars from Hertz  - the car rental company. They sell their cars at a pretty good rate and many are fairly low miles and come with all the bells and whistles if you want that. While most are over $10K, you can find some for that price or just above if you just want a basic commuter care. For instance today they had several 2013 and 2014 compacts sedans (Kia Rio, Nissan Versa, Nissan Sentra, Hyundai Accents) with around 11K to 15K miles on them for about $12K.  The hatchbacks are cheaper but less roomy. All had power everything, auto trans, and a/c.  Bigger cars, like a 2013 Elantra, with 20K miles sold for around $13k - $14K. And things like Civics are also higher than $10K but have low mileage. All came with the original factory warranty plus Hertz's one year warranty.  Just google Hertz car sales (or any rental car company) and see what kind of deals they have in your 'hood.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2014, 10:10:56 PM »
I've been looking at used cars from Hertz  - the car rental company. They sell their cars at a pretty good rate and many are fairly low miles and come with all the bells and whistles if you want that. While most are over $10K, you can find some for that price or just above if you just want a basic commuter care. For instance today they had several 2013 and 2014 compacts sedans (Kia Rio, Nissan Versa, Nissan Sentra, Hyundai Accents) with around 11K to 15K miles on them for about $12K.  The hatchbacks are cheaper but less roomy. All had power everything, auto trans, and a/c.  Bigger cars, like a 2013 Elantra, with 20K miles sold for around $13k - $14K. And things like Civics are also higher than $10K but have low mileage. All came with the original factory warranty plus Hertz's one year warranty.  Just google Hertz car sales (or any rental car company) and see what kind of deals they have in your 'hood.

I don't know if I could do this...I dog the heck out of rentals :)

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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2014, 10:49:34 PM »
I've been looking at used cars from Hertz  - the car rental company. They sell their cars at a pretty good rate and many are fairly low miles and come with all the bells and whistles if you want that. While most are over $10K, you can find some for that price or just above if you just want a basic commuter care. For instance today they had several 2013 and 2014 compacts sedans (Kia Rio, Nissan Versa, Nissan Sentra, Hyundai Accents) with around 11K to 15K miles on them for about $12K.  The hatchbacks are cheaper but less roomy. All had power everything, auto trans, and a/c.  Bigger cars, like a 2013 Elantra, with 20K miles sold for around $13k - $14K. And things like Civics are also higher than $10K but have low mileage. All came with the original factory warranty plus Hertz's one year warranty.  Just google Hertz car sales (or any rental car company) and see what kind of deals they have in your 'hood.
You mean you're breaking them in first for the future buyer? Yeah, me too :-)!

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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2014, 01:00:34 PM »
I've been looking at used cars from Hertz  - the car rental company. They sell their cars at a pretty good rate and many are fairly low miles and come with all the bells and whistles if you want that. While most are over $10K, you can find some for that price or just above if you just want a basic commuter care. For instance today they had several 2013 and 2014 compacts sedans (Kia Rio, Nissan Versa, Nissan Sentra, Hyundai Accents) with around 11K to 15K miles on them for about $12K.  The hatchbacks are cheaper but less roomy. All had power everything, auto trans, and a/c.  Bigger cars, like a 2013 Elantra, with 20K miles sold for around $13k - $14K. And things like Civics are also higher than $10K but have low mileage. All came with the original factory warranty plus Hertz's one year warranty.  Just google Hertz car sales (or any rental car company) and see what kind of deals they have in your 'hood.

As Jeff Foxworthy once said:

"Buying a used rental car is kind of like going to a house of ill repute looking for a wife. Anything that's been driven that hard by that many people, you really don't want to put your key in it."

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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2014, 01:21:32 PM »
^ If you're trying to avoid a prior rental be sure to make full use of Carfax.  When searching for a car in this price range recently we found a surprising number of past rental cars sitting on normal dealership lots.  Thankfully the dealer itself provided the Carfax reports.

I've found that the main issues with prior rentals are easy to spot.  Most of the ones we test drove had very easy to see cosmetic issues.  Mechanically they're probably as reliable as anything else due to maintenance standards that are certainly far stricter than the average person holds their own vehicles to.
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« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2014, 08:30:54 AM »
^ If you're trying to avoid a prior rental be sure to make full use of Carfax.  When searching for a car in this price range recently we found a surprising number of past rental cars sitting on normal dealership lots.  Thankfully the dealer itself provided the Carfax reports.

I've found that the main issues with prior rentals are easy to spot.  Most of the ones we test drove had very easy to see cosmetic issues.  Mechanically they're probably as reliable as anything else due to maintenance standards that are certainly far stricter than the average person holds their own vehicles to.
Yeah, I would be a little wary of rental cars myself but I agree the maintenance standards are a huge positive.

It makes me curious why people drive differently in a rental.  I certainly don't.  If I am stomping on the pedals, I'm killing my gas mileage and paying for it at the pump out of my own pocket and more importantly, I correlate more aggressive driving with a higher risk in getting in an accident or receiving a ticket.  If you are getting the rental on a company's dime, I could see the allure of joy-riding a bit but still the safety issue and the financial penalty aspect would prevent me from changing my style.  My wife and I always tell each other that driving is the most dangerous thing we do* and will be until the heart disease and cancer factors start to catch up in the 60s.

*on aggregate, if you drive less than average you are exposed to less risk, I didn't want to rehash the safety is an expensive illusion article as I agree with most of the sentiment expressed there.  Just saying, for me driving differently in a rental isn't worth it as the negatives outweigh the positives. YMMV

All that said, the rental car stereotype is that surely they are being driven hard although the aforementioned maintenance exists for them.  This would be perhaps difficult to measure but I wonder if the cheaper cars to rent (small/med sedans, 4 cyl cars, etc.) are driven harder than the more expensive ones (minivans, large sedans, SUVs, etc.).  I would think that all else equal, a rental car driven with multiple people in it will be driven more safely compared to a rental driven by a sole person.  I can hear my wife saying to me "Precious cargo!" if I am driving and make an aggressive pass (in her mind) or get too close to the back of a semi while coasting in traffic for her liking.  If the size of the rental vehicle is a (even a weak) predictor of driving behavior, then buying the more expensive vehicles from rental companies would be a safer bet.  Of course, Mustachians would be more likely to buy the smaller cars.  Oh well, interesting dichotomy with rental cars vs. non-rentals.

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2014, 06:46:28 AM »
My current vehicle had about 30k rental miles on it.

But... who the heck is going to pick a wagon as a rental lol :)

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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2014, 06:16:02 PM »
My current vehicle had about 30k rental miles on it.

But... who the heck is going to pick a wagon as a rental lol :)
Me! With my many large, stinky,wet, muddy, hairy, dirty, drooly, sheddy dogs! OK only one small dog now but when I had more and rented cars it was always a wagon or small SUV.

The rental cars I've been looking at to buy thru Hertz only have about 10K - 15K miles on them so probably not too much damage done to them in that time frame. Most are 2014's too.

 

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