Author Topic: Possible to view actual dollars spent on costs in Vanguard account?  (Read 2590 times)

brooklynguy

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Is there any way to view the actual dollars spent on mutual fund costs when you log in to your Vanguard account?  Or is the only way to determine your actual costs by doing the calculation yourself using historical expense ratios?  There doesn't seem to be any breakdown when you view past distributions or any other indication of your actual costs, but please let me know if I'm missing something.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Possible to view actual dollars spent on costs in Vanguard account?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2014, 08:14:02 AM »
I do use Personal Capital, but Vanguard places such an emphasis on their low costs and makes it so easy to see how much you will spend in projected future costs that I would have expected them to make it easy to see how much you have actually spent in past costs.

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Re: Possible to view actual dollars spent on costs in Vanguard account?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2014, 09:15:40 AM »
What is Personal Capital?

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Re: Possible to view actual dollars spent on costs in Vanguard account?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2014, 09:49:15 AM »
relatively newcomer to the scene of consolidating your financial accounts.

They have a tool that analyzes your fund costs and forecasts how much you'll pay over the next X years (can't remember how far out). 

Here is a link to their website: http://refer.personalcapital.com/a/clk/RgM4C

Full disclosure, it's my referral link.  Not trying to push it, just figure if i'm going to provide a link might as well be one that pays out rewards. :) 

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Re: Possible to view actual dollars spent on costs in Vanguard account?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2014, 10:39:26 AM »
What is Personal Capital?

It is an account aggregator like Mint.com but geared towards investors.  Lots of reviews on PC and comparisons between the two.  MMM even did an article on Personal Capital and Mint.

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Re: Possible to view actual dollars spent on costs in Vanguard account?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2014, 10:43:24 AM »
brooklynguy, that's an interesting question. I do have a Vanguard account and I haven't seen that before. I poked around a little and googled this and I can't find anything.

The closest I could find is that if you log in and go to the "Portfolio Watch" link, it will tell you what your overall blended expense ratio is. But it won't say, "you paid $27.32 in mutual fund expense ratios this year."

That's good enough for me. I don't need to know the actual amount that I lost to fees, since there's nothing I can do about it anyway. I do know what my portfolio blended expense ratio is ( ~0.15%) and I can compute what my annual expense ratio fees are (but not computed daily), but I don't feel the need to reconcile that with the actual amount of fees.

If I start from $1000, and I have $1,100 at he end of the year, and I had $5 taken in expenses, I don't necessarily need to know that. To me, the fund expense fees are just a cost of doing business. I know that Vanguard has the lowest.

Much like how the sunlight around 401(k) fee disclosure has contributed to better 401(k) plans (slightly), requiring investment companies to compute and report these fees to investors could be an interesting regulation. It's one thing to say a fund has a 1.18% expense ratio. Most people can't really process that. But if you say:

Beginning Balance: $10,000
Ending Balance: $10,800
Fund fees paid: $118

that might wake people up to what they're paying.