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Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« on: October 12, 2012, 12:55:21 PM »
So as a 32 year old female - I recently began the process of learning how to ride a bike (pretty pathetic, I know).  After two days of practice under the guidance of my husband,  I was able to ride in a fairly straight line on the beach - the riding area was wide open - which really helped.  The second day of learning I wiped out and bloodied up my elbow on the pavement - this opened my eyes to how dangerous riding can be if you don't know what you are doing - which I still don't. 

When I got home my parents were kind enough to gift me a new bike - 21 speed hybrid bike  (Dad felt guilty for never teaching me) and I have been having trouble figuring the best way to learn to ride and get comfortable in my home turf.

My end goal is to be able to bike to the grocery store, library, etc.  The distance to anything of interest is about 5 miles.  I am pretty paranoid about riding in the street and I am trying to get comfortable going down some pretty steep hills.

Anyone have any advice for a total newbie that wants to learn how to ride in the street.  Can I ride on the sidewalks if no one is walking on them?  Also what about knee pads or elbow pads - I am kind of tempted to get some. 

We have only one car right now and I would really like to get comfortable on the bike as soon as possible.  I know you guys are biking experts so any advice would be much appreciated. 

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 01:42:33 PM »
I'd definitely recommend gloves and pads.  My son, aged four, is a very competent biker, and I partly credit it to  the fact that he has always worn elbow pads and gloves.  He wore knee pads too when he started. 
There is a huge advantage to knowing there is no penalty for falling off.  Then you can intentionally push your limits and do things that you think will *probably* leave you in the dirt.   You'll learn way faster than if you are trying to be careful all the time.


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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 02:00:57 PM »
Anyone have any advice for a total newbie that wants to learn how to ride in the street.  Can I ride on the sidewalks if no one is walking on them? 

Practice. Every day for a small chunk that increases over time. Start with riding 5-10minutes a day now and do that for weeks, get a helmet, get gloves as you put out your hands when you fall (it's human nature), and wear hefty clothing to cover yourself.

Ride ride ride.

My girlfriend was in a similar position as you nearly 1.5 years ago, now she doesn't own a car and gets herself to college, the store, and my house with only her 10speed.

& while people advise you to ride in the street in general, you can ride on the sidewalk always, in my opinion, at least in lower-populated areas.

I believe in you!

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 02:09:25 PM »
get gloves as you put out your hands when you fall (it's human nature)
You'll do best when you fall if you can keep your hands on the bars and your feet on the pedals. Hands on the bars means your whole side and the side of the bike will slide down the street, so it's much harder to fracture your collarbone and radius. You may lose a little skin (god knows I did last time I took a good slide down a hill), but that should be the extent of the damage.

& while people advise you to ride in the street in general, you can ride on the sidewalk always, in my opinion, at least in lower-populated areas
If you're not comfortable enough to ride in the street, you should try riding on bike trails that are in parks or along rivers or old railbeds. Riding on sidewalks, you're running a substantial risk of getting hit by a car every time you cross a driveway or parking lot entrance/exit, as well as a substantial risk of hitting a pedestrian or tangling with a dog. Don't do it, especially if you're not experienced enough to control the bike just yet.

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2012, 02:09:38 PM »
A couple of things to try.  First, let some air out of your tires.  Not so they are flat, just so they are softer when you push on them with your thumb.  This will make your bike slower and slower to react.  You will get tired of this after a week or so because its harder to go and then you will start filling them back up but it can help early on.

Also, depending on your bike you may want to lower the seat so you can easily touch the ground.  This will also make it a little harder to ride efficiently and you will begin to raise it back up but it can make you feel more stable at first. 

If you have any flat grassy areas nearby, go ride around there too.

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2012, 02:28:11 PM »
I wouldn't say it is pathetic at all - It's admirable to take on a new challenge. Once you experience the joy of cruising through the breeze, you will be so glad you did it!

I taught myself to rollerblade down steep hills a few years ago by basically finding a safe hill and going up and down it over and over and over again. Your body needs to get a memory for riding, and that happens through repetition, as other have said. I think it's better to do a little each day than go on long outings. Your body will remember what it feels like to balance, and the next day will be a little better.

If you can lower your seat, you can also forgo the pedals and just kick the ground, getting the hang of gliding and learning how to deal with unexpected situations without panicking.

This info might be helpful:

http://www.urbanindy.com/2011/05/12/lrb-basics-like-balance-braking/


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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2012, 02:51:12 PM »
Never ever ever ride your bike on the sidewalk, exactly for the reasons Grant gave. Once you have better control then maybe in very rare circumstances, but still do your best to avoid it.  If you aren't comfortable riding on the street yet, find a nice multi-use path to cruise around on or, worst-case, just ride around an empty parking lot for practice. Either will be much more safe than the sidewalk.

Definitely wear pads if it would make you more comfortable. They'll do a lot cut down on the cuts and scrapes.

Gloves are nice, but you should still learn not to stick your arms out when you fall. That's a good way to break bones once you get moving a little faster. Like Grant said, keep your hands on the bars and feet on the pedals when you fall. Practicing falling in the grass will help a lot with this, and it's pretty fun once you get into the swing of it.

It should go without saying, but make sure you wear a helmet. There's some debate whether they're helpful when you're out in traffic, but for the kind of riding you're doing (slow speed, good chance of falling without being hit by anything) there's no doubt that they lower the risk of injury.

Also, what a badass! Not many people have the guts to learn how to ride later in life. Congrats, and don't forget to have fun!

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2012, 03:14:50 PM »
Congrats on learning to ride a bike!  I too am a relatively new rider, I hadn't been on a bike since I was 8.  After riding on Mackinac Island (where no cars are allowed) I realized how enjoyable it was.  My husband bought me a bike this summer and I have been enjoying it.  I too still have some trepidation about riding on the road.  I ride up and down our small country road, and local paths, but that has been the extent of it.

Keep practicing, wear a helmet and gloves, and enjoy. 

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2012, 03:16:37 PM »
Melissa, I know you're on the other side of town, but if you ever get the chance to ride around in Upper Arlington, it's a dream. Big, wide roads with low speed limits, drivers accustomed to bikes, and beautiful houses.

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2012, 03:19:50 PM »
Make sure your seat is not too high.  You want to be able to put a foot down without feeling like you are reaching to touch the ground.  Not having the seat too low is important as well, but if you are learning and you find the seat makes it difficult to get your foot safely on the ground go ahead and drop your seat some.  You can always raise it back up once you are more comfortable. 

Within reason speed is your friend.  It may sound counter intuitive but it is easier to handle a bike if your speed is reasonable, somewhere a bit above a brisk walk.

Also, try to relax as much as possible.  That way you'll be more fluid on the bike and can shift your weight/change body position, etc as needed so you are working with the bike instead of sitting rigid upon it. 

Avoid the brakes if possible while turning.  Ideally set your speed on the straight line into the turn and then off the brakes while you are turning.  Set your speed a bit lower to start to get used to doing this. 

When you get a bit more comfortable practice 'bad situations' like going too slow, or being off balance.  You'll get to be surprised at just how much room for error you will have, and it is better to find these limits with intent than to be caught off guard.

It all else false just slow down, put a foot down, stop the bike and then take a breather to gather yourself.

I love bikes, and I am sure bikes love you.  Once you get fluid on a bike I am sure you will love it as well.

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2012, 04:05:03 PM »
It may also be worth taking a traffic safety course through your local bicycle advocacy organization. To find one, see:

http://findit.bikeleague.org/search/

Learning safe cycling skills in traffic situations will help you gain confidence and comfort on the road. Congratulations on starting to bike!!

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2012, 07:58:29 PM »
Wow. I remember that at some point during grade school, we kids had someone from the mayor's office come and teach us how to read the road signs. They set up a couple fake neighbourhood blocks with chalk on the playground with stop signs and what not, and gave us bikes to ride on and observe the traffic laws. The few kids who had never been on a bike before were given training wheels and learned furiously fast to avoid embarassment. Lots of fun that day.

Staying safe on the road is a matter of being aware of your surroundings: after all, there are of lots of moving bodies around you. So in short, stay aloert be ready to brake and swerve at all times. Learn to care for and trust this fine piece of machinery, and you will feel like a million bucks in no time.

For the advanced rider, a couple exercises they teach in riding school (find an empty parking lot):
- put down ten cones about three feet apart, slalom as fast as you can, then as slow as you can.
- put an empty gallon of milk on the ground, then pick it up as you ride past it. Repeat on the other side.
- slow down to a complete stop, then maintain balance for a few seconds before moving on. You've probably seen commuters do this at traffic lights.

PS. Never practice those drills with clip-on pedals.

Have fun!

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 09:24:02 AM »
Thanks everyone for the encouragement and great advice. I will read through all of the provided links. As recommended I also need to practice falling in the grass - will do that this week.

Couple of things:
 - I have a helmet and I am wearing it religiously
 - Right now I have the seat low enough so my feet can touch the ground - this has helped tremendously (I had briefly tried learning a couple of years ago on a much taller bike - I have super short legs - and I found it nearly impossible)
 
I went out yesterday and was able to carve out a path to a park about 1.5 miles away that I can get to via neighborhoods so I can stay away from the main roads for now.  In the park there is some light traffic so it is a good place to get comfortable with cars being around but at least they are not driving like maniacs.

I need to go buy some knee/elbow pads - hopefully can get some this weekend.

Question for the experts: 

The one thing that is hard for me to get comfortable with is big hills.  Is it bad if I break on them - a couple of times to slow myself down - is there a better approach to this?

 I don't necessarily break too much but I get worried if I am going pretty fast and a car/pedestrian may suddenly show up and I want to be able to stop pretty quickly. 

Thanks!




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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 09:27:57 AM »
There's nothing wrong with braking on hills, especially if you're just going straight down and not following a curve or something. It's more predictable for other vehicles and more intuitive for you if you can brake slightly the entire time as opposed to braking hard when you feel you're going to fast, then speeding up, then braking again, then speeding up again...

The only thing to be careful for is braking around curves. You want to brake before you get to the curve, not during it, and that goes double for curves down hills.

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 09:39:07 AM »
It's not bad at all. To get used to the brakes, start on flat ground and - using only the back brake at first - progressively brake harder and harder until you start to skid the back tire. The amount you braked before you started to skid is the maximum stopping power you can get out of the back brake (you can brake less than this, but not more). Then start adding the front brake in little by little until you're comfortable using both together. Don't try to skid the front tire though, you'll definitely crash and that's no good! Just add it in until you can feel it working and you're comfortable using it. When done right, the front brake actually provides about 70% of your stopping power, because when you brake your weight shifts forward to the front wheel. Now when you're comfortable using both on flat ground, try the hill. Since you're angled downhill, a little more of your weight will be on the front wheel and a little less will be on the back wheel. Contrary to popular belief, this means that you should use the front brake more (more weight on the front wheel = more traction = better braking) and the back brake less (less weight on the back wheel = less traction = worse braking). To get used to the different feeling, do the same thing you did on flat ground starting with the back brake until you skid and then gradually adding in the front brake. You should notice that the back tire skids a little easier and the front brake stops you a little better. Good luck!

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2012, 09:51:14 AM »
So, I wrote this comment and started to post it:

"Also, if you have separate front and rear brakes, you don't want to brake hard and fast with your front brakes only if you're going fast, especially downhill.  Front of bike wants to stop + rest of bike wants to keep going = potential to go flipping over your handlebars or rear of bike (with you on it) swinging around to the left or the right.  I tried to train myself to always apply rear brakes first then add the front brakes in."
 
When I went to post, the system flagged Russ' response that had come in while I was typing.  What he's saying about the front vs rear brake stopping power makes sense, and I'm not sure enough of the physics to engage in a debate anyway.  But what I was trying to get at in my original comment is that you want to avoid what happened to me one time ... I was going downhill and had picked up a lot of speed, then had to stop suddenly.  For whatever reason, I only applied the front brake - which did indeed stop me quickly, but the back end of my bike swung around into the lane of traffic (which luckily was empty) and it was hard not to fall off.  You don't want that :-) 

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Re: Need Advice - learning how to ride a bike as an adult
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2012, 11:01:13 AM »
Thanks Grant!  I will keep Upper Arlington in mind.  Our country roads are still too dangerous for me with cars driving anywhere from 45-70mph.

My latest adventure was the Olentangy Trail with a friend.  We started up at 270 and headed south until you get passed Antrim Lake and get to neighborhood road before picking the trail back up again.  I would have liked to go further, but my friend had to get back to work.  I would love to ride all the way downtown to surprise hubby to have lunch with him during his work day.