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Title: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on October 19, 2017, 05:35:49 PM
Hello,
A part of many people's FI plan is the side hustle.  If you have a side hustle (a side job other than your main employment) what is it?  How much does it bring in?  Is it your transition plan into FI?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: frugalmom on October 19, 2017, 05:50:31 PM
Same one I have had for 25 years.  I teach developmentally disabled kids to swim a couple nights a week for a couple hours. 

It gets me a 100% free gym membership, and I worked out a deal to get my daughters swim lessons 100% free.  I also get all the free t-shirts I can handle (often past years camp shirts, but who cares).  They pay for all of my training costs to keep up my lifeguard, swim instructor, swim team, and cpr/first aid.

Its a not bad deal; oh yeah---and I'd do it for free, but insurance requirements will not allow it....so I occasionally buy a splurge with the money from this job. 
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: TexasRunner on October 19, 2017, 06:12:26 PM
Drafting on the side.  Work in metal buildings full time but most people don't know how to build something without hiring an architect.

I fill that gap.
(Relevant links about when you need an architect in Tx:  (almost never) http://www.tbae.state.tx.us/content/documents/lawsenforcement/archrequiredflowchart.pdf (http://www.tbae.state.tx.us/content/documents/lawsenforcement/archrequiredflowchart.pdf) )

About 2500$ for the hardware and software to get into it, but not bad returns.  50-90$ an hour part time- usually 3-5 hours at a time or per project.

It is fun for me as well, and I get the same 'joy' that an architect does with seeing a client's vision or goals becoming real.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: jacquespluto on October 20, 2017, 02:31:32 AM
Market neutral options trader.  Basically a net seller of time premium.  $2k-$4k per month.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: DrumAllDay on October 20, 2017, 09:24:14 AM
My side hustle is being a musician.

I will make about $8000 a year through a combination of teaching and performing.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: ketchup on October 20, 2017, 09:43:55 AM
My main "side hustle" outside of my 9-5 is helping my GF in her photography business.  Mostly I play bookkeeper, IT, and travel agent.

I've also done random one-off stuff like this year making about a grand profit in cryptocurrency mining.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Cwadda on October 20, 2017, 09:46:03 AM
Hello,
A part of many people's FI plan is the side hustle.  If you have a side hustle (a side job other than your main employment) what is it?  How much does it bring in?  Is it your transition plan into FI?

If you started a side hustle creating cactus recipes, I'd gladly be your first customer.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: effigy98 on October 20, 2017, 09:48:23 AM
Have a coding side hustle and crypto mining side hustle. Potential around 100k depending on how hard I work (hourly paid) and luck.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: wordnerd on October 20, 2017, 10:18:09 AM
Teaching English online to kids in China. My referral link is in my signature.

ETA: I made about $800 last month. Once I ER and have more time, I'll up this to $1500/mo.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: westtoeast on October 20, 2017, 07:39:34 PM
Right now I'm doing private tutoring and freelance writing. Brings in maybe $500 a month, but it is a lot of work and a lot of traveling to different locations (on public transport). Looking forward to seeing more responses here!

I've also been listening to Side Hustle School and Side Hustle Show (podcasts) to get more ideas.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: startingsmall on October 20, 2017, 08:01:11 PM
Veterinary writing and consultant to a few start-ups. Currently bringing in ~$3000/month. SO tempted to quit my FT job, but I'm still scared that the ACA will go away, husband has a pre-existing condition, and we can't get insurance through his work. Not sure whether I'm making the right choice to stay in a FT job I hate, or if I'm just being paranoid.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: VolcanicArts on October 20, 2017, 11:38:00 PM
I do consulting once every two weeks. I’ve also started my own woodworking business, and I’ve currently got about 50 finished products in reserve. I’ve completed all the necessary licensing and tax requirements and have set up a POS system linked to my business account. Sold over 10 items so far, but my first real test is in 2 weeks as I have a vending booth reserved at a Trade Fair.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Off the Wheel on October 21, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Currently? Nothing. I struggle because the side hustles that would be 'easiest' are most aligned with what I currently do, but my job is very involved and I don't have the mental capacity to do more of it after long work days and work weeks. I need to figure that out.

What I could do now:
- Marketing consulting
- Blogging (I set up a couple, one about DIY life skills from the perspective of a city girl starting from scratch, and one about dog-friendly adventures in the PNW but both have been languishing as work has taken up so much time.)
- AirBnB our second bedroom (technically not allowed though)

What I'd like to do post-FIRE:
- Host overnight guests and community dinners in a homestead-lite farm :D (the dream!)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Bracken_Joy on October 21, 2017, 01:08:11 PM
Dog sitting. The new apps make it super easy. Just started (our dog passed away recently, and we started after we lost her), so not sure yet on how much we'll make. But it's looking like a couple hundred a month. I'm sure it'll be higher around the holidays then the rest of the year though.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: badassprof on October 21, 2017, 04:26:37 PM
I do consulting work and give talks. I also help doctors and dentists from foreign countries who are applying to US medical schools with their applications. (Even though they are licensed in their countries, they often have to go through a U.S. program to practice medicine here). Make around 5-8000 a year.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: arowback on October 21, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
I do some personal training, both in person and online. I target a specific niche (drug-free strength and physique athletes) and it's not something I actively push. I only take on clients that are serious and go out of their way to seek my help, therefore, I usually have a roster of only 2-4 athletes at a time plus the occasional consult. Typical income is $200-$600 a month.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on October 22, 2017, 09:46:58 AM
I am considering a niche screen printing business.  Mostly online, possibly some while customers in select locations.  Anybody know any screen printers?  Artists?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Cwadda on October 22, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
I am considering a niche screen printing business.  Mostly online, possibly some while customers in select locations.  Anybody know any screen printers?  Artists?

I'm not sure about screen printing but if you start doing cactus recipes or mail-order cactus treats, I'll happily buy!  :D
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: GetItRight on October 22, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
One of my side hustles is buying and selling car and bike parts. Some are leftovers in package deals for my own projects, others are things I find cheap and resell, or crusty old parts I'll value add by refinishing, restoring, polishing, etc. then sell. It pays for a sizeable chunk of my automotive hobby. Once RE I'll need something I enjoy to occupy my time so I'll likely continue with it.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: RedmondStash on October 22, 2017, 10:47:34 PM
Freelance fiction writing. Made a little money at it a decade or two ago, will probably pick it back up in retirement. It won't be a lot of money, maybe a few hundred a year at best. But fun money, and I'd be writing anyway.

Possibly some freelance editing or writing work in the tech or games industry. Just depends what comes up.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Johnez on October 23, 2017, 12:26:49 AM
Drafting on the side.  Work in metal buildings full time but most people don't know how to build something without hiring an architect.

I fill that gap.
(Relevant links about when you need an architect in Tx:  (almost never) http://www.tbae.state.tx.us/content/documents/lawsenforcement/archrequiredflowchart.pdf (http://www.tbae.state.tx.us/content/documents/lawsenforcement/archrequiredflowchart.pdf) )

About 2500$ for the hardware and software to get into it, but not bad returns.  50-90$ an hour part time- usually 3-5 hours at a time or per project.

It is fun for me as well, and I get the same 'joy' that an architect does with seeing a client's vision or goals becoming real.

This is pretty interesting to me. I'm currently learning AutoCAD right now in my HVAC classes and was wondering how far I could take the knowledge.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SmokeySnow on October 23, 2017, 01:20:15 AM
Consulting and Purchasing for optimizing Vacation Rentals

I live in a tourist heavy area that is full of substandard rentals. After 're-doing' a few vacation rentals for a friend, I got more more interest in my services. I've always been somewhat of a bargain hunter, and this resonates well with my clients as they know I won't spend their money frivolously. Plus is that I get to spend time thrifting, which I enjoy, without spending my own money! I make an extra $4-6k a year doing this job and it is fun!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: middo on October 23, 2017, 02:52:36 AM
I don't know if it qualifies as a "side-hustle", more an umbilical cord when we do FIRE.  Relief teaching.  We are currently teachers and both still enjoy most of the job, so some relief or part time will probably be on the cards when we do retire.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: swinginbeef on October 23, 2017, 06:45:41 AM
my side piece is AutoCAD drafting as well. I worked for a small Civil/Survey firm from late high school (94) until the housing crash (08) when the company folded. In January 16, I got a call from one of the guys I used to work with asking if I had any interest in doing some overflow drafting work for him. I said sure and he bought me a laptop and software subscription and off I went. All of our correspondence is email, text and phone  with him mailing me checks and 1099ing me at the end of the year. Was expecting maybe $6-8k/year but ended up just shy of $35k (pre-tax) last year and am trending to about the same this year. I haven't been good about tracking my actual time, since he pays me by the job, but I'd estimate it's roughly $60-70hr (pre-tax). Plus, if it continues it'll be a nice, location independent part time gig once I can hang it up at my full time job.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: JanetJackson on October 23, 2017, 06:50:55 AM
Babysitting on occasion, but this is my least favorite side hustle although certainly not the least paying... probably about 1-2k/yr if I can make myself do it...
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I'm currently trying to figure out my Amazon Merchants account and my Google business account as well.  It's all a bit technical for me (as you can see by my jobs, I'm a manual labor kinda gal).  The Amazon account has one t-shirt design on it currently, which I think has sold one... The google business page will be for my dog walking, but I may eventually sell pet mind puzzles online, as I see a market for it in my day-to-day work with animals who are home for maaaaybe a little too long alone.

I also collect scrap metal, but more than half of the time I donate it to my retired neighbor, because he uses the money to supplement his retirement and he still works his butt off scrapping at 70 years old.. and I have a soft spot for work ethic :)


My day job is as a property and fleet manager.[/list]
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Digital Dogma on October 23, 2017, 08:05:52 AM
I've been dabbling in Cryptocurrency mining and trading which has been an eye opening introduction to market trading for me. The market trading side of things has been an eye opener mainly because I've dollar cost averaged into mutual funds my entire life so placing sell/buy orders was unnecessary and foreign to me. The hardware side of things has always been an interest of mine, and with less time for video gaming during the summer its a nice way to make use of idle computing power.

My SO has been making use of her idle time by producing crocheted cat beds and wreaths for sale at a local mom and pop shop.
The cat beds are made from a crocheted pattern she came up with, it cups our fat cats belly and keeps her inside the bed like a muffin. Our fat cat is the QA/QC inspector, she only likes to use the newest bed under construction, as soon as a new bed is made she loses interest in the old one and won't use it anymore.
The wreaths are made from glycerin preserved fall leaves and ribbons with a wire frame. She's also made some crocheted wreaths that sold very well.

In the future I plan on
-starting up a greenhouse geared towards landscaping contractors.
-making oak barrels for aging vinegar, liquor, etc - anything that won't hold water would be repurposed as a container for planted flower arrangements.
-constructing BBQ smokers, smoke houses, and smoke pits for sale.
-producing sauces (hot sauce, tomato, BBQ, etc) for sale.
-selling the best damn pulled pork you've ever tasted in frozen 2-3lb packs.
-raising grass fed cows to sell high quality beef.

I really like that people are making money on pet sitting, this was a childhood hustle that paid for much of my insurance and gas after I invested my income over the years. Unfortunately my current housing situation means I can't host dogs, and don't have the time to walk pets during the weekdays when its most needed.

I am considering a niche screen printing business.  Mostly online, possibly some while customers in select locations.  Anybody know any screen printers?  Artists?

My MIL has been successful in screen printing towels, sheets, and table cloths and selling them at the same local shop that my SO sells the cat beds/wreaths at. She makes designs that are printed repeatedly in a pattern, and may even be dying cloth. We got her some Aluminum frames this winter and she's made some great new designs. Selling online is great if you can get some momentum, but it seems like quality hand made stuff like this sells best in person.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: goalphish2002 on October 23, 2017, 08:57:33 AM
I do some personal training, both in person and online. I target a specific niche (drug-free strength and physique athletes) and it's not something I actively push. I only take on clients that are serious and go out of their way to seek my help, therefore, I usually have a roster of only 2-4 athletes at a time plus the occasional consult. Typical income is $200-$600 a month.

Might be interested in this...message me if you like.  I have a few specific goals.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: goalphish2002 on October 23, 2017, 08:59:15 AM
I have two side hustles.

First one is an online travel agency.  The income can fluctuate wildly from month to month, but for the last few years it has brought in $40,000+ in net profits.  This one takes only a few hours a week to maintain.

Second one is a niche site that I have been working on for about 15 months now.  It has been a fun experiment starting from scratch and trying to build up the site, email list, and social media presence.  I hit $1,000 in ad revenue for the first time in January and last month was $4,000.  This month is on track to be a little lower, but I'll still be in the $3,000 range.  I've been averaging about two hours a day working on the site.  I need to hire someone since most of my time is spent writing content, which is pretty cheap/easy to outsource.  Once I get someone trained I'll drop to a few hours a week to maintain this one as well.

I'll continue both side hustles after I quit my day job since I enjoy tinkering with them and I can run them from anywhere.

How can I become your mentee? 
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: TexasRunner on October 23, 2017, 09:09:49 AM
Drafting on the side.  Work in metal buildings full time but most people don't know how to build something without hiring an architect.

I fill that gap.
(Relevant links about when you need an architect in Tx:  (almost never) http://www.tbae.state.tx.us/content/documents/lawsenforcement/archrequiredflowchart.pdf (http://www.tbae.state.tx.us/content/documents/lawsenforcement/archrequiredflowchart.pdf) )

About 2500$ for the hardware and software to get into it, but not bad returns.  50-90$ an hour part time- usually 3-5 hours at a time or per project.

It is fun for me as well, and I get the same 'joy' that an architect does with seeing a client's vision or goals becoming real.

This is pretty interesting to me. I'm currently learning AutoCAD right now in my HVAC classes and was wondering how far I could take the knowledge.

As far as you want.  There really isn't a limit to 'how good' you can get.  With good recommendations, actually taking care of your clients, learning all the other trades, and visiting your construction sites- you could make an exceptional amount of money and have an extremely long list of clients wanting to give you projects.

Basically the exact same thing as an architect, but with low overhead and focused on customer service instead of building your crystal palace with someone else's money.

;)





Edit to comment on:
my side piece is AutoCAD drafting as well. I worked for a small Civil/Survey firm from late high school (94) until the housing crash (08) when the company folded. In January 16, I got a call from one of the guys I used to work with asking if I had any interest in doing some overflow drafting work for him. I said sure and he bought me a laptop and software subscription and off I went. All of our correspondence is email, text and phone  with him mailing me checks and 1099ing me at the end of the year. Was expecting maybe $6-8k/year but ended up just shy of $35k (pre-tax) last year and am trending to about the same this year. I haven't been good about tracking my actual time, since he pays me by the job, but I'd estimate it's roughly $60-70hr (pre-tax). Plus, if it continues it'll be a nice, location independent part time gig once I can hang it up at my full time job.

I find this to be extremely realistic.  My (full time) company does the exact same thing with several of our drafters, but I'm not too interested as I don't want to go back to production PEMB drafting.  Concept creation and implementation is much more fun.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: semiretired31 on October 23, 2017, 09:41:11 AM
As soon as I'm done chasing/coaching my kids on soccer weekends (a couple years left), I intend to start reffing a bunch.  Pretty good side gig in something I love.  Refs are severely needed, so should be all the opportunity I want.  Can't wait...
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: NeonPegasus on October 23, 2017, 10:24:58 AM
usertesting.com. When I qualify for tests, I get paid $10 for 10-20 minutes of checking out another company's website and telling them what I think about it. I'm at the computer all day anyway so it's easy to spend a few minutes here and there to see if I qualify for a test. I make $100-200/mo. It's enough to cover my gym membership and pay for kids' school activities while also being something I can ignore when I don't want to do it.

As soon as I'm done chasing/coaching my kids on soccer weekends (a couple years left), I intend to start reffing a bunch.  Pretty good side gig in something I love.  Refs are severely needed, so should be all the opportunity I want.  Can't wait...
Do it! Yes, it's much needed. The kid reffing this weekend forgot that the teams switch sides after halftime. SMH!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Cwadda on October 23, 2017, 11:36:54 AM
My two hustles:

1. Musician. I am paid $175/week for church services and I play about 3 weddings/funerals per year. I make about $9k/yr from this side hustle.

2.  Amazon.  Buying things at stores and flipping them on Amazon. I am currently making $300/month but am working to get this higher.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: RedmondStash on October 23, 2017, 05:53:06 PM
2.  Amazon.  Buying things at stores and flipping them on Amazon. I am currently making $300/month but am working to get this higher.

Intriguing. I'd be interested in more info, if you're so inclined. This sort of sounds like Amazon is the new eBay.

Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: mancityfan on October 23, 2017, 06:17:06 PM
Soccer ref. $ 4-10k per year, depending on my motivation and time available.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: momcpa on October 23, 2017, 06:59:24 PM
"usertesting.com. When I qualify for tests, I get paid $10 for 10-20 minutes of checking out another company's website and telling them what I think about it. I'm at the computer all day anyway so it's easy to spend a few minutes here and there to see if I qualify for a test. I make $100-200/mo."

How difficult is this to get started in?  Do you 'qualify' on a regular basis for the assignments, or are they few and far between?    This sounds interesting to me.  How do they pay, and how often?   Thanks for your insights.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: stachestache on October 23, 2017, 07:02:01 PM
Picking up overtime at work. My work schedule allows for working a lot (too much) overtime. $30-50k/yr
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: DaveSch on October 23, 2017, 07:04:22 PM
I have a few hobby websites and have Google ads on them. Not a lot of money after paying the hosting and taxes, but it is better than paying for the hosting out of my pocket. I am retired and the earned income allows me to add to my Roth  IRA. I never intended to put ads on the site but some kind fellow in KY suggested I should, so I did. I rewrote some sites for friends for free, if they allowed the ads.  Nice outcome for just a hobby.

Dave's Homemade Radios
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: NeonPegasus on October 24, 2017, 07:26:22 AM
"usertesting.com. When I qualify for tests, I get paid $10 for 10-20 minutes of checking out another company's website and telling them what I think about it. I'm at the computer all day anyway so it's easy to spend a few minutes here and there to see if I qualify for a test. I make $100-200/mo."

How difficult is this to get started in?  Do you 'qualify' on a regular basis for the assignments, or are they few and far between?    This sounds interesting to me.  How do they pay, and how often?   Thanks for your insights.

It's pretty easy. You just need a mic attached to your computer. Watch their tutorials before doing your audition test. Keep in mind that their customers hire them so they can get input to make their websites better so be as helpful as possible with your feedback.

They pay 7 days after you complete the test by transferring the money to your PayPal account. I probably only qualify for 10% or less of the tests that come up but I typically answer only a couple of multiple choice questions before I'm disqualified so it isn't a huge time suck. The key is to keep the website up in a browser tab so you can hear when new tests are posted. I have signed up for several other similar testing sites and this one is by far the best since they have lots of tests. This is also way better than those stupid survey sites where you spend 10 minutes filling in demographic info to find out you didn't qualify for the $0.75 survey.


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Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: semiretired31 on October 24, 2017, 08:28:43 AM
usertesting.com. When I qualify for tests, I get paid $10 for 10-20 minutes of checking out another company's website and telling them what I think about it. I'm at the computer all day anyway so it's easy to spend a few minutes here and there to see if I qualify for a test. I make $100-200/mo. It's enough to cover my gym membership and pay for kids' school activities while also being something I can ignore when I don't want to do it.

As soon as I'm done chasing/coaching my kids on soccer weekends (a couple years left), I intend to start reffing a bunch.  Pretty good side gig in something I love.  Refs are severely needed, so should be all the opportunity I want.  Can't wait...
Do it! Yes, it's much needed. The kid reffing this weekend forgot that the teams switch sides after halftime. SMH!

A slippery slope.  Refs get treated horribly (I'm guilty at times) and then they no longer want to come out.  Then, the quality of reffing goes down because the refs get younger and younger.  Then.. people get even worse on the sidelines. 

I want to do it for a million reasons.  Love to watch youth soccer and be involved.  And, I think I can do a good job and improve the play for kids.  And... it's not a bad side gig.  There's money to be made.  Win/win/win...
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on October 25, 2017, 05:14:21 AM
Anybody have a website associated with their side hustle?  I want one for my screen printing, from which people can buy shirts.  How much would a basic site cost to set up?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SC93 on October 25, 2017, 06:55:41 AM
Basic website? Before you pay anyone any money make sure you do some research. Don't waste your money like 95% of the businesses do. If you want to use a website to sell, you need a great website with built in SEO. And once you have all of that, what is your marketing plan? I can make you a basic website in about 15 minutes..... I'd do it for $250..... but it won't net you any profit. It just doesn't work like that and people have lost millions to prove it doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: fuzzy math on October 25, 2017, 05:15:31 PM
Dog sitting. The new apps make it super easy. Just started (our dog passed away recently, and we started after we lost her), so not sure yet on how much we'll make. But it's looking like a couple hundred a month. I'm sure it'll be higher around the holidays then the rest of the year though.

Could you speak a bit more about this? Is it hard to get those first few clients to get reputation? I have been talking about doing this here and there (overnights only) just to get a bit of extra $$ going.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on October 25, 2017, 06:10:56 PM
Basic website? Before you pay anyone any money make sure you do some research. Don't waste your money like 95% of the businesses do. If you want to use a website to sell, you need a great website with built in SEO. And once you have all of that, what is your marketing plan? I can make you a basic website in about 15 minutes..... I'd do it for $250..... but it won't net you any profit. It just doesn't work like that and people have lost millions to prove it doesn't work like that.

Hi SC93, thanks for that.  I have some learning to do about websites and SEO.  What is meant by built in SEO?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: toodleoo on October 25, 2017, 06:46:48 PM
My side hustle is the website in my signature, InstaGC :) You don't make a ton of money on there but it's good if you're sitting at work bored with nothing to do. You get paid to watch videos, take surveys, click on articles, etc.

Edited to add: I also heard about this company ToursByLocals where you can be a tour guide if you live in a famous/historical/interesting area. I don't have any experience with the company but it could be a fun side gig.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SC93 on October 25, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
You can't just build a website the way you want it to look. You have to build SEO in to it. It's hard to explain but let's take this for example, do you know what an H1 or H2 or H3 is? Probably not but you need to have certain key words in the H1. Then in your H2 you need other key words. Then in the H3 you can be more explanatory about who you are and what you do. I'm not an expert but every website I've built has been on the first page of google for key search words. That's another thing, all of these people will tell you they can get you on the 1st page of google when reality is they are getting you on 1st page of google for YOUR domain name. Well I would hope they could get you on 1st page of google for your own domain name. A 1st grader could do that. The thing about websites is this.... a good & honest person that builds websites is hard to find. Once you do find one the price is sky high and they are usually too busy to work for peanuts.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Bracken_Joy on October 26, 2017, 08:35:42 AM
Dog sitting. The new apps make it super easy. Just started (our dog passed away recently, and we started after we lost her), so not sure yet on how much we'll make. But it's looking like a couple hundred a month. I'm sure it'll be higher around the holidays then the rest of the year though.

Could you speak a bit more about this? Is it hard to get those first few clients to get reputation? I have been talking about doing this here and there (overnights only) just to get a bit of extra $$ going.

I can absolutely talk more about it =) I've been using Rover. Difficulties with first clients? Absolutely not. BUT, I got a ton of review for past dog sitting (family and friends) because I've done a lot of care there. Plus, I'm a nurse and until she recently passed away, had a geriatric dog with complex medical therapies. (And I can give insulin and everything, obviously, being an RN and all). My husband and I also stagger our schedules so we can share a car/so one person can always be home for the dogs we're caring for. We also have a large house, fully fenced yard with double gates on each side, no children or other pets, no smoking, and I know doggy CPR. I also worked in high school as a dog trainer. So I think my qualification level helps, and our availability. I actually set my rates *higher* than the recommended and averages for my area (by $5/day for day care and $15/day for sitting in home). I like the ability to be picky with my clients.

I've had ~3 client contacts each week since registering. A surprising number of owners have their plans change (about 1/3-1/2 I'd say), but otherwise it's been going well. My November and December weekends are already filling up.

Feel free to ask any follow up questions. I'm doggy sitting a 3 month old german shepard today. =)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: FallenTimber on October 26, 2017, 09:05:53 AM
My wife wanted a bookshelf made from apple crates about 6 years ago. Apple crates were impossible to find then as everyone had switched to cardboard, so I built some myself. Then we moved, I posted them on Craigslist, and had a dozen phone calls within a day. I couldn't believe it, so I started building more of them.

I have a full time job so I could only spend about 4-6 hours per week building them. The first year it brought in $40k, and the next year we topped $100k. We were approached by Walmart and Home Depot about 4 years ago but would have lost money at the prices they were talking, so we had to turn them down. Seems like they all found a China producer now, so our numbers have fallen with the heavy competition, though it still brings in over $50k per year. Our accidental side hustle business is www.coloradoapplecrates.com.

We also use Rover.com (about $2,000 per year), along with RVShare.com and Outdoorsy.com (renting out our camper for $180 per night).

We sell our chicken eggs as well (about $250 per month), and plan to sell beef and pork to friends / family / neighbors to cover the cost of our own groceries that we can't raise or grow ourselves.

I've always felt like side hustles were the excitement of life. I don't think we'll ever fully retire simply because my wife and I have so much fun trying to come up with ways to make extra money.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: 99to1percent on October 26, 2017, 11:08:40 AM
Yes, on top of our 9-5's, we have a few side hustles:

-A consulting business
-A tax prep side gig
-A product we had neglected, and about to re-launch
-More coming

Total we bring home $400K+/yr...hope to at least double it again in the next 5 years.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle
Post by: fuzzy math on October 26, 2017, 12:57:31 PM


I can absolutely talk more about it =) I've been using Rover. Difficulties with first clients? Absolutely not. BUT, I got a ton of review for past dog sitting (family and friends) because I've done a lot of care there. Plus, I'm a nurse and until she recently passed away, had a geriatric dog with complex medical therapies. (And I can give insulin and everything, obviously, being an RN and all). My husband and I also stagger our schedules so we can share a car/so one person can always be home for the dogs we're caring for. We also have a large house, fully fenced yard with double gates on each side, no children or other pets, no smoking, and I know doggy CPR. I also worked in high school as a dog trainer. So I think my qualification level helps, and our availability. I actually set my rates *higher* than the recommended and averages for my area (by $5/day for day care and $15/day for sitting in home). I like the ability to be picky with my clients.

I've had ~3 client contacts each week since registering. A surprising number of owners have their plans change (about 1/3-1/2 I'd say), but otherwise it's been going well. My November and December weekends are already filling up.

Feel free to ask any follow up questions. I'm doggy sitting a 3 month old german shepard today. =)

Thanks. I'm also in the medical field and have vet clinic experience. I think my main Hang up is that I take call and need to structure my rover schedule around that. I also go to work early -- some days 6 am and need to be able to express that explicitly so I don't get bad reviews. The goal would be to do it just here and there when I can guarantee my hours but it can be difficult to anticipate.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle
Post by: Bracken_Joy on October 26, 2017, 01:01:48 PM


I can absolutely talk more about it =) I've been using Rover. Difficulties with first clients? Absolutely not. BUT, I got a ton of review for past dog sitting (family and friends) because I've done a lot of care there. Plus, I'm a nurse and until she recently passed away, had a geriatric dog with complex medical therapies. (And I can give insulin and everything, obviously, being an RN and all). My husband and I also stagger our schedules so we can share a car/so one person can always be home for the dogs we're caring for. We also have a large house, fully fenced yard with double gates on each side, no children or other pets, no smoking, and I know doggy CPR. I also worked in high school as a dog trainer. So I think my qualification level helps, and our availability. I actually set my rates *higher* than the recommended and averages for my area (by $5/day for day care and $15/day for sitting in home). I like the ability to be picky with my clients.

I've had ~3 client contacts each week since registering. A surprising number of owners have their plans change (about 1/3-1/2 I'd say), but otherwise it's been going well. My November and December weekends are already filling up.

Feel free to ask any follow up questions. I'm doggy sitting a 3 month old german shepard today. =)

Thanks. I'm also in the medical field and have vet clinic experience. I think my main Hang up is that I take call and need to structure my rover schedule around that. I also go to work early -- some days 6 am and need to be able to express that explicitly so I don't get bad reviews. The goal would be to do it just here and there when I can guarantee my hours but it can be difficult to anticipate.

They do have a calendar you can customize for availability. But yeah, I don't see how providing day care when you're at work would work out generally. Maybe just have dog sitting availability weekends?

They also do have a field for 'frequency available for potty breaks' for the dog sitting. And if someone requests you and they don't meet your pre-set requirements, that doesn't negatively effect your numbers at all. Hope that makes sense. It's a pretty good system for not being punitive for complex schedules.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: StockBeard on October 27, 2017, 12:55:23 AM
Anybody have a website associated with their side hustle?  I want one for my screen printing, from which people can buy shirts.  How much would a basic site cost to set up?
You can pretty much set up a basic website for free on wordpress. But it won't give you a "clean" url, which is something you'll want in the long term.

If you want to own your own website with associated url, etc... you might have to pay for the domain name, hosting services, etc...
Domain name + server can cost you from $100 to much more per year.

Then if you want someone else to actually install or build the site for you, you'd have to pay for that (again, that part you can do on your own with wordpress + a few plugins if you put the time to learn a bit. Setting up a blog with wordpress is easy, turning it into an online store has a bit more implications - need to find the right plugin, security concerns, etc...)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 27, 2017, 03:58:48 AM
PTF
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: lexde on October 27, 2017, 05:14:04 AM
Teaching English online to kids in China. My referral link is in my signature.

ETA: I made about $800 last month. Once I ER and have more time, I'll up this to $1500/mo.
How many hours per month do you work (not just face to face time) for the $800? How many hours do you expect to earn for the $1500?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Smokystache on October 27, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
Sell non-fiction booklets and other printed materials to a niche business and provide workshops, trainings, presentations to businesses and communities.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on October 28, 2017, 05:01:09 AM
Anybody have a website associated with their side hustle?  I want one for my screen printing, from which people can buy shirts.  How much would a basic site cost to set up?
You can pretty much set up a basic website for free on wordpress. But it won't give you a "clean" url, which is something you'll want in the long term.

If you want to own your own website with associated url, etc... you might have to pay for the domain name, hosting services, etc...
Domain name + server can cost you from $100 to much more per year.

Thank you for your reply.  If I have a solid, professional site, and pay for SEO from somebody that knows what they're doing, I recognize there is a cost to this.  Is there generally a good ROI with SEO?  How does that compare to print advertising in magazines?




Then if you want someone else to actually install or build the site for you, you'd have to pay for that (again, that part you can do on your own with wordpress + a few plugins if you put the time to learn a bit. Setting up a blog with wordpress is easy, turning it into an online store has a bit more implications - need to find the right plugin, security concerns, etc...)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: chasesfish on October 28, 2017, 05:48:29 AM
Veterinary writing and consultant to a few start-ups. Currently bringing in ~$3000/month. SO tempted to quit my FT job, but I'm still scared that the ACA will go away, husband has a pre-existing condition, and we can't get insurance through his work. Not sure whether I'm making the right choice to stay in a FT job I hate, or if I'm just being paranoid.

I'd love to talk to you about this when I pull the retirement plug...
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain DIY on October 28, 2017, 06:12:30 AM
I work as an electrician full time, so naturally I work as an electrician on the side as well. It's nearly impossible not to do side jobs, as everyone I know has work for me.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: EconDiva on October 29, 2017, 12:05:52 PM
My two hustles:

1. Musician. I am paid $175/week for church services and I play about 3 weddings/funerals per year. I make about $9k/yr from this side hustle.

2.  Amazon.  Buying things at stores and flipping them on Amazon. I am currently making $300/month but am working to get this higher.

What types of things do you flip?

I have considered doing this with clothing but am not sure I will be able to make much of a return.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: DavidAnnArbor on October 29, 2017, 01:19:34 PM
I wish someone would pay me to watch my favorite tv shows. : )
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: wordnerd on October 29, 2017, 01:44:02 PM
Teaching English online to kids in China. My referral link is in my signature.

ETA: I made about $800 last month. Once I ER and have more time, I'll up this to $1500/mo.
How many hours per month do you work (not just face to face time) for the $800? How many hours do you expect to earn for the $1500?

I make $20/hr (slightly more when you factor in no shows and random incentives). I think I worked 37 hours in September for the $800. For $1500, I anticipate about 75 hrs a month.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on October 29, 2017, 05:32:16 PM
Regarding the business website: If I have a solid, professional site, and pay for SEO from somebody that knows what they're doing, I recognize there will be a cost to this.  Is there generally a good ROI with SEO?  How does that compare to print advertising in magazines?

Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Cwadda on October 30, 2017, 10:23:00 AM
My two hustles:

1. Musician. I am paid $175/week for church services and I play about 3 weddings/funerals per year. I make about $9k/yr from this side hustle.

2.  Amazon.  Buying things at stores and flipping them on Amazon. I am currently making $300/month but am working to get this higher.

What types of things do you flip?

I have considered doing this with clothing but am not sure I will be able to make much of a return.

Mostly books, but I'm getting into grocery items and personal care stuff too.  You go into discount stores and buy books for a couple books which go for $15+ on Amazon and Ebay, then resell them. Granted, you don't make as much as one would expect in profit.  There are tons of fees.  It's pretty entertaining though, it's a chance to do the consumerism "splurge", and you get a lot of strange looks at the check out with 2 carts full of books

I once bought 3 carts of lightbulbs and the person in line next to me asked if I was starting a disco club. Lol
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: lexde on October 30, 2017, 12:30:19 PM
My new temporary side hustle is reselling clothes on eBay. A family member who is obsessed with clothes unloaded 3 contractor-sized bags FULL of designer clothes on me this weekend. With probably another 2 more to go. I dropped off the “worst” of it at goodwill and still have probably 30+ pounds of J Crew, Lily Pulitzer, and more.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: mistershankly on October 30, 2017, 06:17:21 PM
Regarding the business website: If I have a solid, professional site, and pay for SEO from somebody that knows what they're doing, I recognize there will be a cost to this.  Is there generally a good ROI with SEO?  How does that compare to print advertising in magazines?

Rather than build a Wordpress site from scratch with all of the startup maintenance issues (e.g. credit card transaction issues, fulfillment, site navigation and uptime issues, etc), start a store on Shopify with your domain and then migrate to your own Wordpress site later when you feel more comfortable with the technology and, more importantly, the viability of your business in what is a highly competitive market.  You'll initially give up some profits for convenience and stability, but it'll get you going without the learning curve of building Wordpress sites.  Alternatives to Shopify are Big Commerce and Woo Commerce.  They all have their pros and cons but you can get started with all of them depending on which one looks more attractive to you.  As far as SEO goes, here is an article on Shopify that will give you some insight of what you do and don't have control over... https://www.shopify.com/blog/70627717-the-basics-of-search-engine-optimization-for-your-shopify-store.

Here is a good podcast to listen to to get an idea of what people are doing in the world of ecommerce, including Amazon FBA and eventually building your own Wordpress site... https://mywifequitherjob.com/category/podcast

Don't be intimidated by ecommerce and the ecosystem around it.  Take one step at a time and learn something new about it every day until you feel comfortable.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: csr on October 30, 2017, 08:52:45 PM
I'm going to be a skating rink guard and instructor with the City this winter (my first time). Downsides are limited hours, at/near minimum wage, fixed schedule, and freezing my butt off. But it should be fun =)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: HawkeyeNFO on October 31, 2017, 08:30:12 AM
Don't be intimidated by ecommerce and the ecosystem around it.  Take one step at a time and learn something new about it every day until you feel comfortable.

Frankly, mistershankly offers good advice.  Don't be afraid to learn.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: LadyDividend on October 31, 2017, 08:36:04 AM
We have a new "side hustle" which is offering a room as a homestay. Part of the agreement is that we provide breakfasts and 5 home cooked meals a week. We already cook so why not? Plus we will get to learn about someone from another country and can claim 1/3 of our home, internet and food expenses (as there is a third person now living with us).
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: frenchsquared on November 01, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
Anybody have a website associated with their side hustle?  I want one for my screen printing, from which people can buy shirts.  How much would a basic site cost to set up?

Your idea is interesting. I am a Senior PHP Developer specialized in Point of Sales systems.
I also have a degree in graphic design.
I have been wanting to get into screen printing.

A basic site is like $800. A basic site does not included processing payments. If you were to ask me for a one off payment solution we would start at $2500 for paypal and quickly get to $10,000. 
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: CogentCap on November 02, 2017, 05:09:58 PM
Basic website? Before you pay anyone any money make sure you do some research. Don't waste your money like 95% of the businesses do. If you want to use a website to sell, you need a great website with built in SEO. And once you have all of that, what is your marketing plan? I can make you a basic website in about 15 minutes..... I'd do it for $250..... but it won't net you any profit. It just doesn't work like that and people have lost millions to prove it doesn't work like that.

Hi SC93, thanks for that.  I have some learning to do about websites and SEO.  What is meant by built in SEO?

Hi Cactus,

It sounds like you're pretty unfamiliar with website/design etc.  But don't worry, you can still sell your screenprinted stuff online without having to design your own website (maybe you already are doing this, I don't know).  Because unless you already have clientele who are hammering on your door, demanding a way to buy your products online, I can pretty much guarantee you that you'll have better success selling online via other, established platforms. 

Etsy is likely to be your best bet. They also have the benefit of easy and effective promotion (just click a button) that will get your product in front of lots of eyes who are looking for exactly what you sell.
Also consider Redbubble, Society6, and of course Amazon and Ebay ("Amazon Merch" is something you mght want to look into as well).

If you aren't already doing this, it will be a very easy way to sell online without putting up any of your own money.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on January 10, 2018, 08:00:33 AM
Thank you all for your replies.  So much to think about.  I'm now considering the option of contracting out the screen printing itself to a local vendor to avoid the upfront capital cost of equipment purchase. 
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: nemesis on January 10, 2018, 08:25:31 AM
My side hustle is life coaching.  I'm a very advanced pro at life, in business and personal, so I help train other people to be more proficient at their lives.

I'm already FIREd but choose to work because I get paid to do what I enjoy, so why the heck not?  :)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: HipGnosis on January 10, 2018, 10:52:10 AM
We have a new "side hustle" which is offering a room as a homestay. Part of the agreement is that we provide breakfasts and 5 home cooked meals a week. We already cook so why not? Plus we will get to learn about someone from another country and can claim 1/3 of our home, internet and food expenses (as there is a third person now living with us).
How did you find, get the homestay?  Can you specify English speakers? For how long? Can you give an idea on how much you are getting?
Do you mean 'claim  tax deductions'?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: BuildingmyFIRE on January 10, 2018, 01:18:11 PM
My new temporary side hustle is reselling clothes on eBay. A family member who is obsessed with clothes unloaded 3 contractor-sized bags FULL of designer clothes on me this weekend. With probably another 2 more to go. I dropped off the “worst” of it at goodwill and still have probably 30+ pounds of J Crew, Lily Pulitzer, and more.

I am a little jealous.  What's your eBay account name?  Do you give Moustacian discounts?  :)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on January 10, 2018, 07:07:13 PM
Welcome to the world of MMM!  It has changed my life and introduced me to so many new ideas.  I can't "un-know" this knowledge now that I've seen it.  Pretty awesome.  Good luck and thanks for your two cents!

My side hustle is being a realtor. Mostly represent buyers. This is in Alberta, Canada. I make more money on my side hustle than my actual job. Typical commission for a sale is $6-$10k. Though I am not a hustler in the salesperson sense, I actually am just honest and don't pressure people into things. Last year I grossed $120k, working a lot in the spring and summer, but overall probably only 15-20 hours a week (in deep winter like now there isn't much going on, it's around -22F today).

Licensing and operating costs are about $10-$12k per year for me, but I also get to claim 70% of vehicle expenses and other home office things that I wouldn't otherwise. I pay $200/month for services from my local brokerage instead $2000/month like the dorks at Re/Max do.

I have another full time job as a research associate at the local university which I am able to work around easily, as it is mostly research and writing and I get to work from home. That's $75k/year with a great pension, though it is only on 1 year contracts so not a lot of long term stability.

We are trying to pay off our mortgage this year (I bought a very un-moustachian house for over $600k back in 2015, though we have 7 year old vehicles that we purchased used, and my wife makes only slightly less than me so it's not the end of the world if we curb expenses). We are 30 and starting a family which led me to this blog and forum!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: TexasRunner on January 11, 2018, 07:33:18 AM
We are trying to pay off our mortgage this year (I bought a very un-moustachian house for over $600k back in 2015, though we have 7 year old vehicles that we purchased used, and my wife makes only slightly less than me so it's not the end of the world if we curb expenses). We are 30 and starting a family which led me to this blog and forum!

In general, if it isn't something you would buy today, then you should sell it.

Something to consider.

Also note, it makes much more sense mathematically to max out pre-tax accounts and (possibly) invest in the market in taxable before paying off the mortgage.  Just depends on the specific rates and loan size.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: lindy_zag on January 11, 2018, 10:58:59 AM
Freelance writing (web content, SEO type stuff) averaging about $500/month and babysitting averaging about $250/month.

For freelancing, I found a woman on Craigslist three years ago who was starting a content marketing business and she's hired about six of us to farm work out to. She does all the client interaction, and just sends me assignments. I could make more money by doing it directly, but it's worth it to me to have it be so simple. I don't have to look for work or cultivate those relationships, she does all that for me. Our only interaction has ever been over email, she's super communicative, pays on time over PayPal every week, and the money is good.

I started babysitting again when I moved in Nov 2016 because I was unemployed. Now I have a few families that I've maintained relationships with and they usually each call me about once a month for a gig. I don't really go looking for those either except for sometimes when I have high spending months/no weekend plans I'll look for a job on Care.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: big_slacker on January 11, 2018, 12:01:22 PM
Doing consulting work which is the same type as my day job. Regular rates are $125-$175/hr. Did around $30k last year (only did it within a 6 month period) so that could double this year.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Justo on January 12, 2018, 01:57:53 PM
What's up guys! This is my first post ever on Mr Money Mustache. I have been a reader for a while, but I thought I'd join officially. My side-hustles are as followed:

- Modeling (I'm signed to a modeling agency)
- Graphic Design (this ranges from designing logos, creating snapchat geofilters, creating flyers, and etc.)
- E-Commerce Store
- Trading Stocks
- Trading Cryptocurrency
- Random Assortment of referrals
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: mozar on January 13, 2018, 04:26:42 PM
@Justo are you a male model or a female model? My roommate wants to be a male model and I think he has the right measurements (or close to it).

I'm thinking about being a residential electrician and a piano teacher as side hustles.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: PDXTabs on January 13, 2018, 04:35:42 PM
Market neutral options trader.  Basically a net seller of time premium.  $2k-$4k per month.

I would be very interested in any resource to learn about this.

Mine is cryptocurrency mining. Right now I make ~$500/mo, but the market is abnormally high right now.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Brother Esau on January 13, 2018, 04:42:55 PM
my side piece is AutoCAD drafting as well. I worked for a small Civil/Survey firm from late high school (94) until the housing crash (08) when the company folded. In January 16, I got a call from one of the guys I used to work with asking if I had any interest in doing some overflow drafting work for him. I said sure and he bought me a laptop and software subscription and off I went. All of our correspondence is email, text and phone  with him mailing me checks and 1099ing me at the end of the year. Was expecting maybe $6-8k/year but ended up just shy of $35k (pre-tax) last year and am trending to about the same this year. I haven't been good about tracking my actual time, since he pays me by the job, but I'd estimate it's roughly $60-70hr (pre-tax). Plus, if it continues it'll be a nice, location independent part time gig once I can hang it up at my full time job.

Sweet! I'm an engineer and surveyor and hope to follow your lead on the part time "side gig". Our industry seems well suited for that.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: PDXTabs on January 13, 2018, 09:45:10 PM
I started babysitting again when I moved in Nov 2016 because I was unemployed. Now I have a few families that I've maintained relationships with and they usually each call me about once a month for a gig. I don't really go looking for those either except for sometimes when I have high spending months/no weekend plans I'll look for a job on Care.

Out of curiosity, how much do you charge?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Bluejay1975 on January 14, 2018, 08:47:51 AM
I grew up on a farm and mowed lawns as a kid so I've picked that back up in my free time.  5 of my neighbors are elderly so I just mow pretty much the entire block when it's time to mow my own lawn.  Takes me about 3 hours to do all 6 yards.  That alone provided over 3k in profits last year (and I lost about 15 lbs last year).  On the weekends and during the summer (I'm a teacher) I also work on my parents farm or at their 4 rental houses.  I love the manual labor on the side and have learned lots of new skills.  Took me 2 days to replace an entire bathroom in one of the rentals this past weekend when it would have taken me 2 weeks a few years ago.  My dad is getting older so I've pretty much become the landlord to the rentals.  If things go well in 2018 I should make 6 figures.  I teach AP classes all day and it is very fast paced so my side gigs are nice outlets. 
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Justo on January 15, 2018, 07:01:39 AM
@Justo are you a male model or a female model? My roommate wants to be a male model and I think he has the right measurements (or close to it).

I'm thinking about being a residential electrician and a piano teacher as side hustles.

Haha I'm a guy, so I'm a male model. I tell anyone who's interested in modeling to at least give it a try. There are modeling agencies every where; I would go into a modeling agency (during their open calls) and see if they'd like to represent you. It's literally that easy and that's what I did. I didn't just go to one, I went to a few, but one finally picked me up.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: mozar on January 15, 2018, 12:47:05 PM
Thanks @Justo!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: lindy_zag on January 22, 2018, 02:43:38 PM
I started babysitting again when I moved in Nov 2016 because I was unemployed. Now I have a few families that I've maintained relationships with and they usually each call me about once a month for a gig. I don't really go looking for those either except for sometimes when I have high spending months/no weekend plans I'll look for a job on Care.

Out of curiosity, how much do you charge?

@PDXTabs - I charge $15/hr typically, although I have one family that pays $20. It's all cash and I only accept jobs when I have no other plans, and half the time I'm being paid to read/watch TV. So it's a pretty good gig.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: deek on February 25, 2018, 03:53:02 PM
What was your first side gig?

I just don't know of any specialized skills I have that others would pay for. I really want to get a move on with paying off my student loan and/or contributing to an IRA, and just getting another $200-$300 a month would be awesome. Having a hell of a time thinking about what I could do though.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: EconDiva on February 26, 2018, 11:35:12 AM
I was hoping to see someone mention cleaning.

I keep coming across this side hustle amongst others who have grown it into a full time gig. 
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Michael in ABQ on February 26, 2018, 11:56:45 AM
Reselling products on Amazon and eBay. Typically clearance items purchased in stores or online. Started last year and broken even on about $500 in total sales. Picked it up a lot in the last month or so and I'm currently at about $1,400 in sales with a gross profit of about $400 after shipping and selling fees. From that I still have to deduct some shipping supplies and a few other expenses. I'm hoping to get it up to a net profit of $1,000 a month or so to supplement my full-time job (and second career in the National Guard). This weekend I just picked up a couple of pool pumps that were $80 and normally retail for $400 as well as some LED light bulbs for $4 that normally retail for $12. The latter I'm debating whether or not to go clear the shelves and pickup a few hundred. The margins aren't great but they sell a dozen or more a day on Amazon.

I'm also in the early stages of trying to create a website that will serve as a referral source to some clothing items on Amazon. For now I'm in the minimum viable product stage. The website is up with some very minimal content just to get the clock ticking on the domain name age and experiment with SEO. Hired an artist on Fiverr for $15 to make an initial concept t-shirt and put it up for sale with Merch by Amazon (on-demand t-shirt printing). The margins are lower than if I went and bought 100 shirts and had them all printed locally. On the other hand there's no inventory costs and no worries about having a particular variation of size and color that doesn't sell and just sits there costing money. Hoping to get a local artist to produce some better designs and expand into some other related products but I've got several other things on my plate right now and this has gone to the back burner for now.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SC93 on February 26, 2018, 01:21:09 PM
I was hoping to see someone mention cleaning.

I keep coming across this side hustle amongst others who have grown it into a full time gig.

Cleaning is where I made my money at. I started a residential cleaning business with $3.17, a borrowed bottle of window cleaner and a borrowed bottle of shower cleaner. My girlfriend at the time cut up a few bath towels, we used our hunk of junk vacuum and off we went in my 1974 Nova that had the back shocks rusted out so it would drag the fenderwell on the tires part of the time. It quickly grew from 1 account to about 20, then my girlfriend and I split up and I started over. Then I built it to several hundred customers and 12-15 workers depending on the day. That was my base business for 19 years and where I made the bulk of my money. I had other businesses along the way and they made money but the cleaning business was where it was at!! The same can be done with yard work. Great money in doing it a few times a week yourself too. The trick is to know how to clean good and fast. Most people THINK they clean good, but in reality, they don't. Water is your best friend.... not those high priced cleaners that do nothing.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Lmoot on February 26, 2018, 05:46:40 PM
I've worked at a zoo part time for 5 years. I currently work in the Education department doing presentations and behind scene tours, and most of my gigs are overnight/night tours...so I get paid to sleep :), free dinner and breakfast, and I get my weekend days off. 1-2 sleepovers per week = 16-32 hours. It's a non profit so the pay sucks...I probably only make about $5-7k per year. But it's fun, easy, and fulfilling work.

I also rent out a portion of a property I own. After expenses, I keep about $5k/ year.

I would love to work in environmental conservation full time, or at least part time (as a replacement for my full time job, which is working from home as a medical bill processor). I have to get more rental properties to be able to afford to go back to school for a science degree (if I want a zoo-keeping position), and to afford working a low-wage, competitive job.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: ETBen on February 27, 2018, 08:03:07 PM
I just started mine. I learned how to build a website, which was pretty fun. I don’t sell a product though. I’m developing content with some colleagues about leadership and professional women. With the goal to leverage that into workshops and speaking engagements

www.leadinginfluencecareers.com
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: MasterStache on February 28, 2018, 05:44:18 AM
I do carpentry work on the side (much like MMM). I've rebuilt decks, renovated rooms, built furniture, etc. Pay is sporadic because I don't do it every month. Just when I feel like it. I also still do part-time contract engineering work with my old company. That pay the most, but I also hate it the most.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on February 28, 2018, 08:18:23 PM
O0 here.  Love all these ideas!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Goldilocks on March 01, 2018, 04:44:43 AM
I also teach English online like a previous poster (same company).
And I teach yoga/hold private yoga sessions, but overall haven’t made much with it yet.

Hoping to make the first one my main job, yoga as my side job, and maybe pick up some ideas from this thread for the third one.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Mrbeardedbigbucks on March 01, 2018, 05:53:53 AM
Teaching English online to kids in China. My referral link is in my signature.

ETA: I made about $800 last month. Once I ER and have more time, I'll up this to $1500/mo.
How many hours per month do you work (not just face to face time) for the $800? How many hours do you expect to earn for the $1500?

I make $20/hr (slightly more when you factor in no shows and random incentives). I think I worked 37 hours in September for the $800. For $1500, I anticipate about 75 hrs a month.

My wife also works for VIP Kids and makes roughly $20 per hour teaching English from home. She really seems to enjoy it. I plan on doing the same thing when I'm done with my full time job at the end of the month. Our plan is to both work about 12-14 hours per week and eventually work on the road 3-4 months per year.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: goalphish2002 on March 01, 2018, 07:11:27 AM
Teaching English online to kids in China. My referral link is in my signature.

ETA: I made about $800 last month. Once I ER and have more time, I'll up this to $1500/mo.
How many hours per month do you work (not just face to face time) for the $800? How many hours do you expect to earn for the $1500?

I make $20/hr (slightly more when you factor in no shows and random incentives). I think I worked 37 hours in September for the $800. For $1500, I anticipate about 75 hrs a month.

My wife also works for VIP Kids and makes roughly $20 per hour teaching English from home. She really seems to enjoy it. I plan on doing the same thing when I'm done with my full time job at the end of the month. Our plan is to both work about 12-14 hours per week and eventually work on the road 3-4 months per year.

To become an ESL teacher online, does one generally have to come from a teaching background (education, experience, etc...)?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: lexde on March 01, 2018, 09:17:25 AM
Teaching English online to kids in China. My referral link is in my signature.

ETA: I made about $800 last month. Once I ER and have more time, I'll up this to $1500/mo.
How many hours per month do you work (not just face to face time) for the $800? How many hours do you expect to earn for the $1500?

I make $20/hr (slightly more when you factor in no shows and random incentives). I think I worked 37 hours in September for the $800. For $1500, I anticipate about 75 hrs a month.

My wife also works for VIP Kids and makes roughly $20 per hour teaching English from home. She really seems to enjoy it. I plan on doing the same thing when I'm done with my full time job at the end of the month. Our plan is to both work about 12-14 hours per week and eventually work on the road 3-4 months per year.

To become an ESL teacher online, does one generally have to come from a teaching background (education, experience, etc...)?
I looked into this and they generally just want some degree in something. And you have to use the hand motions to teach, I forget what the method is called. Look up YouTube videos of (esl company interview) and you’ll find a bunch of explanations and walkthroughs. VIPKid has a bunch.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Villanelle on March 01, 2018, 08:56:12 PM
Consulting and Purchasing for optimizing Vacation Rentals

I live in a tourist heavy area that is full of substandard rentals. After 're-doing' a few vacation rentals for a friend, I got more more interest in my services. I've always been somewhat of a bargain hunter, and this resonates well with my clients as they know I won't spend their money frivolously. Plus is that I get to spend time thrifting, which I enjoy, without spending my own money! I make an extra $4-6k a year doing this job and it is fun!

Do you redecorate, refurnish, suggest renovations, or all of those?  What a fun side hustle!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Mrbeardedbigbucks on March 02, 2018, 05:05:53 AM
Teaching English online to kids in China. My referral link is in my signature.

ETA: I made about $800 last month. Once I ER and have more time, I'll up this to $1500/mo.
How many hours per month do you work (not just face to face time) for the $800? How many hours do you expect to earn for the $1500?

I make $20/hr (slightly more when you factor in no shows and random incentives). I think I worked 37 hours in September for the $800. For $1500, I anticipate about 75 hrs a month.

My wife also works for VIP Kids and makes roughly $20 per hour teaching English from home. She really seems to enjoy it. I plan on doing the same thing when I'm done with my full time job at the end of the month. Our plan is to both work about 12-14 hours per week and eventually work on the road 3-4 months per year.

To become an ESL teacher online, does one generally have to come from a teaching background (education, experience, etc...)?

I can't speak for other companies requirements but I know VIP Kids requires at least 1 year of teaching experience but you don't have to be a classroom teacher. Teaching experience can be anything from home schooling, working at a summer camp, Boy/Girl Scout leader etc.. They do require at least a bachelors degree.

VIP Kids is like running your own business. You really have to market yourself to get bookings by parents and you have to continue to get certified to teach different levels. Bookings are slow at first. It can take a few months to make an income but once you get regulars, you'll have consistent hours. You can do it from anywhere that has a good WIFI connection. Keep in mind that many of the online teaching companies hire you as an independent contractor which means you're paying 100% of your FICA taxes.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on May 22, 2018, 05:41:53 PM
Update on my screen printed apparel business:  have met with vendors to discuss print costs/capabilities.  Going to start attending SBA meetings in my area.  Also getting a SCORE mentor.  Taking baby steps because I’m working full time.  Can’t wait til the day I can report that I’m open for business!



Thank you all for your replies.  So much to think about.  I'm now considering the option of contracting out the screen printing itself to a local vendor to avoid the upfront capital cost of equipment purchase.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on December 10, 2019, 06:09:48 AM
Thank you all for your replies.  So much to think about.  I'm now considering the option of contracting out the screen printing itself to a local vendor to avoid the upfront capital cost of equipment purchase.

I am happy to report that I followed through on this... developed some design ideas, found an artist to make them look good, and then found a local hip print shop to produce my shirts. 

Now I recognize that this forum may not be the best place to talk about fabricating material possessions but I figured it was worth sharing, and I’m kinda proud of what we’ve done so far.

Interested in the costs?  Here goes:
Design cost me $150.
Blank shirts cost me around $6 apiece (certified organic cotton, made in USA vs the cheap $2 Gildan shirts made by slaves somewhere overseas).
Printing was $3 per garment.  I ordered 53 of them in various sizes.
So with some random fees they’re about $10/shirt to produce, not including the cost of design.
I am selling them on Etsy to keep startup costs down while I test my concept. 
Selling for $25 plus free shipping...aiming for around $10 profit per shirt.  I had them priced slightly higher and was planning on donating a percentage of profits to a non profit but I can’t get anyone to call me back or respond to my outreach... hmmm.

Anyway, here it is! 

Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Fish Sweet on December 16, 2019, 11:27:59 AM
I’ll take any and all feedback.  My feelings might get hurt but I need to grow and improve so I have a product people are willing to buy!
I don't have feedback or critique for you quite yet-- just some thoughts and questions that I think you might want to dig into so you can focus your sale efforts:

- Flip your perspective around a little-- don't think about producing a product that people will buy, because at the end of the day, "people" will pay money (sometimes a lot of money) for just about fricken anything-- a banana taped to a wall, a 20k coffee dispenser, face creams that correspond with your horoscope, a kiss, whatever.  It's a matter of enticing the right people (the kind of people who your product appeals to) and getting it in front of their eyes, and distinguishing what you offer from the rest of the pack.

- With that in mind, describe the kind of people who you think are your target market-- and I don't mean "people who are into the NE vibe", but flesh them out, personify them.  Are they locals?  Tourists? Do they buy organic and cruelty free?  Do they not care about that stuff? Are they cost conscious? Progressive?  Conservative? White? Japanese? Do they wear flannel?  Watch Game of Thrones? Do they have dogs? Kids? Do they drive Hondas, BMWS, Subarus?  Are they spendy people?  This isn't an exercise in stereotyping, mind you, and your ideal customer does not necessarily fit within certain ethnic groups, religion, car model, etc.  But no product appeals to everyone, so you have to know who your stuff appeals to.

- How do those people-- your target market-- shop?  Are they computer literate?  Do they go on Etsy? Ebay? Amazon marketplace?  If they want a t-shirt, do they probably buy it from Old Navy or their local craft fair? Are they on instagram? Facebook?  Twitter? Are they buying this for themselves, or for a friend or family member?  How do you get your products in front of the right set of eyes?  And if the right set of eyes see your shirt design, what are you hoping will 'hook' them?   
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Chris Pascale on December 16, 2019, 01:35:58 PM
Adjunct professor.

But I've done a ton of other stuff - ghostwriting, Uber driving, etc.

I've edited some books, but mostly for free for projects I really like. It's so involved, and I really work hard to be the very best editor the project could ever have, that I don't want to waste my time on something I don't like.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: iwannaretire on December 16, 2019, 06:55:21 PM


Interested in the costs?  Here goes:
Design cost me $150.
Blank shirts cost me around $6 apiece (certified organic cotton, made in USA vs the cheap $2 Gildan shirts made by slaves somewhere overseas).
Printing was $3 per garment.  I ordered 53 of them in various sizes.
So with some random fees they’re about $10/shirt to produce, not including the cost of design.
I am selling them on Etsy to keep startup costs down while I test my concept. 
Selling for $25 plus free shipping...aiming for around $10 profit per shirt.  I had them priced slightly higher and was planning on donating a percentage of profits to a non profit but I can’t get anyone to call me back or respond to my outreach... hmmm.

Anyway, here it is! 

https://www.etsy.com/listing/732140218/connecticut-shirt-hartford-shirt?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=connecticut+oyster+shirt&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1&frs=1

I’ll take any and all feedback.  My feelings might get hurt but I need to grow and improve so I have a product people are willing to buy!
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Here's a few thoughts from someone who sells t-shirts on Merch by Amazon, Etsy, Redbubble and various other PODs:

1.  Your competition is getting equivalent designs for $3-$10 each from overseas designers.  $150 is a lot for that design, which is very niche.

2.   I could not tell from the design itself what it was referring to.  It is too subtle to sell online.  For t-shirts, customers will spend about 5 seconds looking at your design and will rarely read the description.  I think it would be better for mom and pop shops and souvenir shops.  Perhaps take them to a local farmer's market.

3.  If you want to improve your sales and get the right customer online, I would recommend Pinterest and Instagram to promote the design.  On Pinterest, establish a board generally for people from Connecticut and one for tourists going to Connecticut.  Post a lot of things about Connecticut and include your shirt on them.  I don't do Intragram marketing, but I hear it is a good way to get views.

4.  If the design is successful, expect a thousand copycats from every nook and cranny of the globe.

5.  If you want to have your own t-shirt shop online without using other platforms, most people in the t-shirt business use Shopify.  That said, Etsy, Amazon and other PODs will do a lot of marketing for you and have a lot more business than you're going to get on a Shopify site.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: DavidAnnArbor on December 17, 2019, 07:33:04 PM
Lately my side hustle has been picking up bank account bonuses for opening up a new account.  I just got $500 for opening up a Chase business checking account. I hope to get another $1450 over the next two months.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: goldenace1982 on January 08, 2020, 08:54:43 AM
Wow, lots of side hustles here...

Hello All

I am fairly new active member of this group buy a passive observer for a bit (couple months). I have started making a few shifts in my quest for financial independence.   As of late I am looking into i creasing my cash flow to help support my aging parents, as it seemed fair since they gave up their retirement savings to send me to college!!

I have been investing in real estate for a couple years, and things have been cooling off a lit here in Wisconsin,  so I am looking for a business to i crease their cash flow, ideally to $10k per month (they have many dr. bills and debt), but to begin with, perhaps 2 - 3 k per month to cover their mortgage.

In my quest for a cashflow business, i discovered ecommerce,  although not new, drop shipping in ecommerce seems to have been doing well.  I recently stumbled upon consultants that would stand up an ecommerce "store" for intial seed money, yielding in $1k cash flow per month in 3-6 mos guaranteed.  The initial seed would be $7k.

I was wondering if anyone has experienced drop ship ecommerce and provide some i sight into risk and confidence in some cashflow numbers or how i could proceed further with this opportunity?


I originally posted this on a different thread, i was suggested to try this thread to get activity.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: goldenace1982 on January 08, 2020, 01:19:39 PM
Lately my side hustle has been picking up bank account bonuses for opening up a new account.  I just got $500 for opening up a Chase business checking account. I hope to get another $1450 over the next two months.

Do you see these impacting your credit score?  I have "heard" they do... but never tried.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: nara on January 19, 2020, 04:11:29 PM
I like this thread revival! Lots of great ideas mentioned.

My most successful side hustle has been teaching chunky blanket making classes. I took a class over the summer with the sole intention of giving out handmade Christmas gifts. One thing led to another and eventually I partnered with a local craft shop to begin selling my items. While my items didn't sell well there was a lot of interest in my offering how-to classes. My first class sold out within hours with over a thousand people interested. I began to offer more and when those all also sold out within hours, I felt like I was onto something.

I began to scale more to increase profits. I worked out an arrangement with the shop to reduce their fees since I was bringing in so much business. I began ordering my yarn in wholesale from China so I wasn't paying retail prices or running to Michael's several times a week for supplies. I also trained my husband to be my "assistant" and doubled my class size. I now bring in around $330 per class--but my goal is to get to $500 a class relatively soon.

I have big dreams of having a thriving make and take craft business similar to a Paint and Sip but where we teach a variety of popular classes on a regular basis such as soap making, candle making, sewing, etc. to corporate clients, parties, and small groups. But this is all new to me (I've never been an artist) and am really in shock and wondering if interest in these classes are sustainable over the long term.

I am transitioning out of my former business (an unrelated medical business), which I sold this year. I am an entrepreneur at heart and always need to be working on something that is MINE instead of growing someone else's company. I am not passionate anymore about my current career--so this little project gives me hope that maybe I can have something else to transition to and be successful at and which could support us financially. I have never had  job I truly loved before, so hoping this all works out!

My other (much less lucrative) side hustle is selling drop ship print on demand mugs on Etsy. I had a designed on Fiver create basic black and white mug designs for professionals in my field as gifts for passing their board exams. It is very niche, but several times a year after results are posted for each testing window, I have an influx of sales.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SailingOnASmallSailboat on January 19, 2020, 04:37:51 PM
I like this thread revival! Lots of great ideas mentioned.

My most successful side hustle has been teaching chunky blanket making classes. I took a class over the summer with the sole intention of giving out handmade Christmas gifts. One thing led to another and eventually I partnered with a local craft shop to begin selling my items. While my items didn't sell well there was a lot of interest in my offering how-to classes. My first class sold out within hours with over a thousand people interested. I began to offer more and when those all also sold out within hours, I felt like I was onto something.

I began to scale more to increase profits. I worked out an arrangement with the shop to reduce their fees since I was bringing in so much business. I began ordering my yarn in wholesale from China so I wasn't paying retail prices or running to Michael's several times a week for supplies. I also trained my husband to be my "assistant" and doubled my class size. I now bring in around $330 per class--but my goal is to get to $500 a class relatively soon.

I have big dreams of having a thriving make and take craft business similar to a Paint and Sip but where we teach a variety of popular classes on a regular basis such as soap making, candle making, sewing, etc. to corporate clients, parties, and small groups. But this is all new to me (I've never been an artist) and am really in shock and wondering if interest in these classes are sustainable over the long term.

I am transitioning out of my former business (an unrelated medical business), which I sold this year. I am an entrepreneur at heart and always need to be working on something that is MINE instead of growing someone else's company. I am not passionate anymore about my current career--so this little project gives me hope that maybe I can have something else to transition to and be successful at and which could support us financially. I have never had  job I truly loved before, so hoping this all works out!

My other (much less lucrative) side hustle is selling drop ship print on demand mugs on Etsy. I had a designed on Fiver create basic black and white mug designs for professionals in my field as gifts for passing their board exams. It is very niche, but several times a year after results are posted for each testing window, I have an influx of sales.

Check out ways to offer classes online as well. It's a booming space with good reason. It's not quite the same as in-person, for sure, but if there are some concepts that translate to video it could be a good side-side biz.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: DavidAnnArbor on February 05, 2020, 07:42:40 AM
I don't know if this counts as a side hustle but over the last four months I opened up 4 business checking accounts and earned $2,450 in bonus interest from them.

$500 Chase business checking
$500 Fifth Third business checking
$700 Old National business checking
$750 Huntington Bank business checking
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: lexde on March 10, 2020, 11:34:56 AM
My side hustle is just billing more hours at my FT job.

I really don’t know anywhere else I can get a steady $50/hr. for as many hours as I can possibly work.

I’ve done bank bonuses as well but they aren’t consistent.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: LovinPSDs on April 09, 2020, 06:30:38 AM
My side hustle is just billing more hours at my FT job.

I really don’t know anywhere else I can get a steady $50/hr. for as many hours as I can possibly work.

I’ve done bank bonuses as well but they aren’t consistent.

There isn't anything wrong with this... I wish my employer paid overtime.  I think in the winter months I'd buckle down and pay my house off REAL quick if I could.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Guy Ensenada on April 10, 2020, 10:58:53 AM
I have done some side work in my local area for years. I'd like to scale it up. By day I am a mild mannered guidance counselor, helping students research and select transfer colleges or providing them with career counseling and planning. So I could market myself as a career coach or a college counselor. In my 2 plus decades, I've worked with students who have gone to Ivy League schools, Big 10 universities, elite liberal arts colleges, and everything in between. There's a lot of players in that space hyperfocused on Ivy League admission or worse, Aunt Becky style plans. I am more interested in helping kids find the RIGHT school for them, which I am fairly good at doing in my day job.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Steeze on April 10, 2020, 11:10:53 AM
I am considering a niche screen printing business.  Mostly online, possibly some while customers in select locations.  Anybody know any screen printers?  Artists?

A friend of mine has a small printing biz - has an automated press, a couple embroidery machines, and some vinyl equipment. He specializes in orders under 1000 pieces but could do larger orders. Usually you can beat his prices if the orders are very large though. Most of his orders are in the 50-500 range for local schools, events, and contractors.

If your interested send me a PM and I’ll give you his contact info.

Edit: my bad didn’t realize this was from 2017!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: semiretired31 on January 21, 2022, 12:04:34 AM
usertesting.com. When I qualify for tests, I get paid $10 for 10-20 minutes of checking out another company's website and telling them what I think about it. I'm at the computer all day anyway so it's easy to spend a few minutes here and there to see if I qualify for a test. I make $100-200/mo. It's enough to cover my gym membership and pay for kids' school activities while also being something I can ignore when I don't want to do it.

As soon as I'm done chasing/coaching my kids on soccer weekends (a couple years left), I intend to start reffing a bunch.  Pretty good side gig in something I love.  Refs are severely needed, so should be all the opportunity I want.  Can't wait...
Do it! Yes, it's much needed. The kid reffing this weekend forgot that the teams switch sides after halftime. SMH!

A slippery slope.  Refs get treated horribly (I'm guilty at times) and then they no longer want to come out.  Then, the quality of reffing goes down because the refs get younger and younger.  Then.. people get even worse on the sidelines. 

I want to do it for a million reasons.  Love to watch youth soccer and be involved.  And, I think I can do a good job and improve the play for kids.  And... it's not a bad side gig.  There's money to be made.  Win/win/win...

Update. I’ve had my reffing license for 18 months and have been making some nice side money and enjoying the heck out of it. Definitely do more as my time is more my own. One more reason to look forward to full FI
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Warlord1986 on January 23, 2022, 02:31:22 PM
Writing and editing research papers and grants. It's not super steady, but it brings in some money here and there.

I'm hoping to move into technical writing at some point. :)
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SwordGuy on January 23, 2022, 06:01:04 PM
Saw the @Captain Cactus  t-shirt comments and didn't at first realize how far back they were made. 

For anyone else interested in a similar business, I buy t-shirts online all the time.   Quite a few of them are taking orders for a period of time ((say 30 days from the advert going up) and THEN, AND ONLY THEN, do they go print them.   

In other words, they COLLECT THE MONEY FIRST and ONLY THEN INCUR THE MANUFACTURING EXPENSE, instead of the other order.  And there is no wastage because they only pay to print the ones they have sold.

This is a big deal.   You can't lose your shirt over-printing the wrong shirt if you do things in this order (assuming they were priced correctly).

I would recommend this for any business that can get away with it -- and more of them can do that than you might think. 

Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SwordGuy on January 23, 2022, 06:07:15 PM
We've successfully retired, but when we did have side hustles, we:

1) Wrote and published a how-to journal for a club we were in.
2) Wrote technical articles for pay.
3) Wrote a book for royalties.
4) Renovated lightly distressed houses and rented them out.

Full details in the entrepreneurial article or in my journal, both linked in my tag line.

For anyone thinking about starting a business, I suggest you google "Pop-up Business School" articles and interviews.   The organization now goes by "Rebel Business School"  (Nothing to do with the US traitors in grey uniforms, they're Brits.)   They've got gobs of good insights and examples on how to start up a business with very little cash and no debt.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on January 24, 2022, 06:16:38 AM
Saw the @Captain Cactus  t-shirt comments and didn't at first realize how far back they were made. 

For anyone else interested in a similar business, I buy t-shirts online all the time.   Quite a few of them are taking orders for a period of time ((say 30 days from the advert going up) and THEN, AND ONLY THEN, do they go print them.   

In other words, they COLLECT THE MONEY FIRST and ONLY THEN INCUR THE MANUFACTURING EXPENSE, instead of the other order.  And there is no wastage because they only pay to print the ones they have sold.

This is a big deal.   You can't lose your shirt over-printing the wrong shirt if you do things in this order (assuming they were priced correctly).


Thanks for the mention ;)

I'll provide an update.

I actually went though with getting some designs by working with an artist... I really like 1 of those designs and was actually sold a good amount on Etsy (using one of those print on demand companies) but then the pandemic hit and turn around times slowed down so much that I just pulled my listings because I didn't want to deal with the customer service fallout.  I think there is some good potential with that one design...I won't go into details for the sake of anonymity but I'll say that I can honestly envision it on t-shirts, sweat shirts, stickers, bumper stickers, throw pillows, wall art, etc... I just don't want to deal with all of that myself while I'm handling a full time job and family.  Maybe there's some way to license out the design?  But I'm simply not savvy enough in that arena. 

For the t-shirts, I listed them for $39.99 I think (yeah, I know!!!) and I sold a steady stream around the holidays.  Of that, my "cut" was around $15/shirt after the cost of the shirt and the print on demand service.  I found that nobody seemed to care about premium quality organic cotton... so I reverted back to the lower quality Gilding shirts and they seemed to sell just as well. 

I would recommend this for any business that can get away with it -- and more of them can do that than you might think.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: SailingOnASmallSailboat on January 24, 2022, 06:23:07 AM
Side hustles here:

DH: created a software program for boaters that's been selling for a few years now. He's got some new upgrades he'll implement in the next month or so and will raise prices.

Me: one of those dreaded MLMs (running on residuals now, which is basically free money), podcast sponsorship, teaching at boat shows, and a couple of online courses for cruisers.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: goodmoneygoodlife on January 28, 2022, 07:16:06 AM
I mostly do e-commerce (https://goodmoneygoodlife.com/why-e-commerce-is-the-best-side-hustle/) with a 1 product store, and code money printers for myself.

Probably want to move onto selling SaaS after the above 2 has fewer fires.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: netloc on January 28, 2022, 08:10:30 AM
usertesting.com. When I qualify for tests, I get paid $10 for 10-20 minutes of checking out another company's website and telling them what I think about it. I'm at the computer all day anyway so it's easy to spend a few minutes here and there to see if I qualify for a test. I make $100-200/mo. It's enough to cover my gym membership and pay for kids' school activities while also being something I can ignore when I don't want to do it.

As soon as I'm done chasing/coaching my kids on soccer weekends (a couple years left), I intend to start reffing a bunch.  Pretty good side gig in something I love.  Refs are severely needed, so should be all the opportunity I want.  Can't wait...
Do it! Yes, it's much needed. The kid reffing this weekend forgot that the teams switch sides after halftime. SMH!

A slippery slope.  Refs get treated horribly (I'm guilty at times) and then they no longer want to come out.  Then, the quality of reffing goes down because the refs get younger and younger.  Then.. people get even worse on the sidelines. 

I want to do it for a million reasons.  Love to watch youth soccer and be involved.  And, I think I can do a good job and improve the play for kids.  And... it's not a bad side gig.  There's money to be made.  Win/win/win...

Update. I’ve had my reffing license for 18 months and have been making some nice side money and enjoying the heck out of it. Definitely do more as my time is more my own. One more reason to look forward to full FI

If you don't mind my asking, what's the pay like per game? Age group and region of the country?

Refereeing soccer/basketball is the side hustle that I'm most interested in. I played both fairly competitively but then let them go to focus on college instead of trying to juggle a sport and school. Seems like a great way to stay in shape, keep the mind sharp, provide a kind of community service, and make money (of course). I think I was enough of a "student of the game" that if I dedicated myself I could potentially ref high level high school and club games. I've put it off the past few years but I know I'll never have an entirely clear schedule to dive in so I might as well just get the process started.

Like you I could envision myself continuing to do it even once FI.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: semiretired31 on February 16, 2022, 08:26:45 PM
I’m in SE PA and here is a link to the fees for youth soccer.

https://www.epysa.org/referee-fees/

My understanding is that PIAA for junior high and high school is even more lucrative. Not there yet. But, planning to move in that direction eventually.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: trc4897 on February 23, 2022, 06:45:50 AM
Last year I started a side hustle. I sell 3D printed items and also 3D print custom orders for people through Etsy. Another chunk of my side income last year was designing Peloton accessories for a friends Amazon store, although I doubt that continues much this year (everything launched last year). Will be working with him to find new products to go after!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Car Jack on February 23, 2022, 06:32:31 PM
Well, because it does take some work, I'd say selling tradelines brings in the most cash money.  About $5500 last year.  I'm expecting this to build as I have been getting new credit cards over the last several years, so when the window opens for new cards, I always have some to add.

My second is scrapping electronics and metals.  I have an electronic scrapyard not far and on my route when I go out to see my mom.  Between this stuff and trailer loads of steel, I probably bring in maybe $300 a year.  I've also found that this scrap dealer pays more for junk silver coins than anyone else.  They've actually matched the guy on craigslist who used to be the #1 payer for me.

So not a cash generator, but a heating oil saver, I cut firewood and heat my house with it in a forced air wood furnace.  Fortunately, we do have an oil fired furnace as well so if I don't run the wood, we don't freeze.  I'd say we save around $2k a year in oil costs.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: cupcakery on February 24, 2022, 06:20:13 AM
I do some bookkeeping on the side.  I used to make about $10k a year, but it dropped to about $9k since COVID, because one of my clients went out of business and a couple downsized.  I make more per hour doing this than I make at my FT job, but it is more draining.  People do stupid stuff with their money and trying to reconcile their books is crazy making.  That and I don't like selling myself to attract clients, makes it better as a side thing for me rather than doing it FT.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: netloc on February 24, 2022, 06:37:37 AM
I’m in SE PA and here is a link to the fees for youth soccer.

https://www.epysa.org/referee-fees/

My understanding is that PIAA for junior high and high school is even more lucrative. Not there yet. But, planning to move in that direction eventually.

Thanks. I'm actually in the same region!

I've had a few former coaches approach me about it and I believe they mostly do PIAA games.

I guess that's where they'd start me, but maybe they would recommend doing lower-level club games first. I'd prefer not to jump through hoops to get numerous certifications, but if that's what it takes to get up to speed I would do it.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Unique User on January 11, 2023, 09:03:43 AM
Healthcare IT consulting.  Very sporadic, I brought DH in with me when we both quit full time work.  We worked about 14 weeks in 2022, we average $8k to $12k per week when we are both working, it all depends on how many days that week. We have to commit to three weeks at a time.  We both work for the same company and they know if one of us is working the other one needs to be also.   
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on January 21, 2023, 12:43:37 PM
I work in the veterinary industry.  Just learned about a new kind of “water cremation” for pets yesterday.  I wonder what it would take to get up and running with one of these new units.  I suspect, but don’t know for sure, there would be less regulation with pets?
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Smokystache on January 22, 2023, 11:40:30 AM
I work in the veterinary industry.  Just learned about a new kind of “water cremation” for pets yesterday.  I wonder what it would take to get up and running with one of these new units.  I suspect, but don’t know for sure, there would be less regulation with pets?

Ah, yes. Aquamation, resomation, and others. I know it is starting in some places, but I'm always curious if most of the PR is coming from the companies that make the devices. (For others, these processes essentially dispose of pets or humans by using alkaline hydrolysis to dissolve the tissue and leaves the bones.). It will be fascinating to see if this process begins to challenge traditional cremation. I honestly don't know. What I do know is that if you're in an area that doesn't have enough or high quality pet cremation/disposal services, then there is a huge opportunity (assuming you have the population to support it).
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Villanelle on January 22, 2023, 01:23:24 PM
I work in the veterinary industry.  Just learned about a new kind of “water cremation” for pets yesterday.  I wonder what it would take to get up and running with one of these new units.  I suspect, but don’t know for sure, there would be less regulation with pets?

Ah, yes. Aquamation, resomation, and others. I know it is starting in some places, but I'm always curious if most of the PR is coming from the companies that make the devices. (For others, these processes essentially dispose of pets or humans by using alkaline hydrolysis to dissolve the tissue and leaves the bones.). It will be fascinating to see if this process begins to challenge traditional cremation. I honestly don't know. What I do know is that if you're in an area that doesn't have enough or high quality pet cremation/disposal services, then there is a huge opportunity (assuming you have the population to support it).

What is the improvement over regular cremation?  Is it cheaper?  Equipment takes up less space or uses less energy? Or are there people who want to keep Fido's (or grandpa's) bones, intact?  I'm trying to figure out why it might be preferable to someone over cremation.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Fresh Bread on January 22, 2023, 07:35:53 PM
I work in the veterinary industry.  Just learned about a new kind of “water cremation” for pets yesterday.  I wonder what it would take to get up and running with one of these new units.  I suspect, but don’t know for sure, there would be less regulation with pets?

Ah, yes. Aquamation, resomation, and others. I know it is starting in some places, but I'm always curious if most of the PR is coming from the companies that make the devices. (For others, these processes essentially dispose of pets or humans by using alkaline hydrolysis to dissolve the tissue and leaves the bones.). It will be fascinating to see if this process begins to challenge traditional cremation. I honestly don't know. What I do know is that if you're in an area that doesn't have enough or high quality pet cremation/disposal services, then there is a huge opportunity (assuming you have the population to support it).

What is the improvement over regular cremation?  Is it cheaper?  Equipment takes up less space or uses less energy? Or are there people who want to keep Fido's (or grandpa's) bones, intact?  I'm trying to figure out why it might be preferable to someone over cremation.

I think the main attraction is there's no emissions. I didn't know the bones were left behind!
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: Captain Cactus on January 23, 2023, 06:40:01 AM
Yes much less energy used vs cremation and presented as “gentle” compared to the horrors of burning.  Of course if you think about it, it’s equally horrifying to be melted by lye or decomposed in the earth.  All about presentation!

I did some digging and it’s evidently around $200k for a new system that can handle multiple pets simultaneously.  Market would likely be veterinarians but I suppose you could always do a direct to consumer route like Direct Cremation in Maine.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: semiretired31 on September 04, 2023, 03:34:47 PM
I’m in SE PA and here is a link to the fees for youth soccer.

https://www.epysa.org/referee-fees/

My understanding is that PIAA for junior high and high school is even more lucrative. Not there yet. But, planning to move in that direction eventually.

Thanks. I'm actually in the same region!

I've had a few former coaches approach me about it and I believe they mostly do PIAA games.

I guess that's where they'd start me, but maybe they would recommend doing lower-level club games first. I'd prefer not to jump through hoops to get numerous certifications, but if that's what it takes to get up to speed I would do it.

Update - reffing my first PIAA games next week. 10-12 games of junior high and JV HS. Also about the same amount of youth games. Should be a fun Fall.
Title: Re: Name your "side hustle"
Post by: kpetar on October 30, 2023, 05:07:12 PM
I used to sell my own private label (PL) products on Amazon, but I sold the business because it became too competitive with razor-thin margins. Now, I run several websites, and the main one is Dollar Sanity. On it, I've compiled a list of over 100 side hustle ideas for anyone who is interested.