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Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« on: February 20, 2019, 01:28:56 PM »
Thanks to the wonderful Craigslist, I posted an ad about wanting to find a roommate in my town to save some money. A day later, a nice lady sent me a well thought out email describing her situation. She's 60, but feels 40 physically and mentally (I'm 27, so this might be a little weird..idk?) She wants to save money as well. This above average mobile home has become permanent on a farm with horses and I would have my own private room and bath, and shared kitchen space. She wants $450 for rent starting in July, a far cry from the 700-ish I would have to pay starting in July at my current place.

This would create some awesome money saving opportunities, the only thing is, I'm a single dude, the prospect of bringing a woman to this place where I live with someone older than my mom is making me a little weary (LOL).

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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2019, 01:57:24 PM »
Maybe the woman you bring to this place will be glad that your roommate is older, thus not "competition."

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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 02:06:48 PM »
I wouldn't worry about it. (I'm 33) It's a roommate. You could always say she's a mothering type and likes to take care of the house. I don't think anyone would bat an eye at that.

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2019, 02:09:06 PM »
Actually, you should probably ask her thoughts on bringing someone home.  Maybe she's super religious and doesn't want something like that going on under her roof.  It's better to know that before you become roommates.

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2019, 02:13:13 PM »
Actually, you should probably ask her thoughts on bringing someone home.  Maybe she's super religious and doesn't want something like that going on under her roof.  It's better to know that before you become roommates.

Yes, lay out some ground rules. We ended up not accepting a roommate because he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 02:57:42 PM »
he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

Why would that be unsurprising?  Are you really suggesting people who watch Fox News are racists?  Very progressive you are....

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2019, 03:05:25 PM »
My coworker lives away from his permanent home and tried renting a room to save money. Ended up moving about 4x in a year. Each roommate above a certain age had some really weird habits that kind of signified their lack of financial stability /overall mental health. He had animals peeing on his stuff, kitchens so filthy he couldn't get into the sink at all and at his last place one of the other room renter was trying to climb into bed with him at 3 am. Now he rents an apartment.
My sister rented a room to a cop, who later was a defendant in a hooker murder case.

I'm not saying you're going to end up getting chopped up or tied up, but always make sure you understand people's reasoning for why they're looking for a roommate. Poor finances at retirement age, living in a trailer etc, are all indications of poor life choices or mental illness. Make sure you are comfortable with the arrangement, and that does include whether you can bring guests back. To be honest though, I can't imagine having sex (or even having to ask for sex permission) with an older lady in the house. That's like off limits when my family comes to visit. Perhaps any future ladies will just have to take you to their place?
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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2019, 03:06:05 PM »
he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

Why would that be unsurprising?  Are you really suggesting people who watch Fox News are racists?  Very progressive you are....

Racists aren't a classification of people that progressives seek to protect.
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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2019, 03:16:50 PM »
he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

Why would that be unsurprising?  Are you really suggesting people who watch Fox News are racists?  Very progressive you are....

Fox News regularly touts racist views, so yes, I assume that people who prefer to get their news from there are fine with racism.

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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2019, 03:35:41 PM »
he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

Why would that be unsurprising?  Are you really suggesting people who watch Fox News are racists?  Very progressive you are....

Are you unaware of the demographics of the viewers and the content on Fox News? I'm sure that some of the viewers aren't racist, but I also expect the proportion to be higher than the general public.

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2019, 03:36:34 PM »
If you rented for a year, that's like 3600. Is the cost savings worth it for not being able to occasionally bring dates over?

I guess I would have a conversation about this landlady expectations about a) friends hanging out at the house, and b) overnight guests.  If she said no, are you willing to go out for dates or spend time at the other person's house...
The way I feel renting for both bad and good is a non permanent situation. You could always do it for a year and see how it goes. As Fuzzy math points out there are always worse situations out there. 
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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 05:24:56 PM »
he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

Why would that be unsurprising?  Are you really suggesting people who watch Fox News are racists?  Very progressive you are....

Fox News regularly touts racist views, so yes, I assume that people who prefer to get their news from there are fine with racism.

I always find it amusing how divisive the people are who scream the most about not dividing the country.  "He will not divide us" - AHHHH, you watch a certain television channel, you are racist!!!!!  Your comment couldn't be more divisive, nasty, and ridiculous.  It doesn't matter though. Go team! That's all that matters, right?

I'm curious.  What about a black man who watches Fox News.  Are they racist?  My dad, for example.  You think he's "fine with racism?" I always thought he just enjoyed a more conservative bend to his opinion shows, but dang, maybe I need to let him know he's a raging racist.  Does this mean he hates white people?  Or does Fox News only mean hating non-whites?  Does he hate himself then I guess? This is so confusing.  Please help me understand.
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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 05:39:18 PM »
I'm unsure what the $700 you reference is currently getting you, but $250/month isn't worth an awkward or significantly less enjoyable living situation IMO.  Paying extra to live alone was a great decision for me.

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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 05:54:56 PM »
I always find it amusing how divisive the people are who scream the most about not dividing the country.  "He will not divide us" - AHHHH, you watch a certain television channel, you are racist!!!!!  Your comment couldn't be more divisive, nasty, and ridiculous.  It doesn't matter though. Go team! That's all that matters, right?

I'm curious.  What about a black man who watches Fox News.  Are they racist?  My dad, for example.  You think he's "fine with racism?" I always thought he just enjoyed a more conservative bend to his opinion shows, but dang, maybe I need to let him know he's a raging racist.  Does this mean he hates white people?  Or does Fox News only mean hating non-whites?  Does he hate himself then I guess? This is so confusing.  Please help me understand.
Yes, you sound very amused.

Look, some things aren't that complicated. A news channel promotes Tucker Carlson, who has said immigration makes the country "dirtier," can rightfully be called racist. A news channel that supports Donald Trump, who has said Mexicans are rapists, Muslims should be banned, some African countries are shitholes, the Central Park 5 should be executed, Obama wasn't born in the US, can rightfully be called racist. Racists are more likely to espouse these racist views.

If these were too subtle for you, then I guess the dog whistles work. Plenty of people still have cognitive dissociation between supporting policies that keep systemic racism and feeling like they aren't racist. I could make it more obvious, like pointing out that Donald Trump was sued for racial housing discrimination, or that Bill O'Reilly said this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysoOB9w0tF4

I personally don't care about dividing the country. As long as the divisions are made clear. But Fox News is doing everything they can to hide the real consequences of their policies. People in general support higher taxes on the rich, cheaper and more equitable healthcare, increased ease of voting, reducing the military industrial complex, ending the war on drugs, environmental protections, and criminal justice reform. If people want these things, they should vote Democrat. But plenty of people want these things and mistakenly (because of Fox News) think Republicans do too, or that other things, like keeping immigrants out, is more important.
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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2019, 06:01:29 PM »
he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

Why would that be unsurprising?  Are you really suggesting people who watch Fox News are racists?  Very progressive you are....

Fox News regularly touts racist views, so yes, I assume that people who prefer to get their news from there are fine with racism.

I always find it amusing how divisive the people are who scream the most about not dividing the country.  "He will not divide us" - AHHHH, you watch a certain television channel, you are racist!!!!!  Your comment couldn't be more divisive, nasty, and ridiculous.  It doesn't matter though. Go team! That's all that matters, right?

I'm curious.  What about a black man who watches Fox News.  Are they racist?  My dad, for example.  You think he's "fine with racism?" I always thought he just enjoyed a more conservative bend to his opinion shows, but dang, maybe I need to let him know he's a raging racist.  Does this mean he hates white people?  Or does Fox News only mean hating non-whites?  Does he hate himself then I guess? This is so confusing.  Please help me understand.

Recognizing that Fox News regularly spouts racist views is not a divisive opinion, it is a fact. As such, it is unsurprising that a regular Fox viewer would spout racist claims. That is not the same thing as saying that every Fox viewer is racist.

For anyone who wants conservative without so much racism, there are other sources. Since the far right media is dominated by white supremacists, they may have to turn to middle right, but I also criticize liberals who turn to Mother Jones or Daily Kos for their news.

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2019, 06:30:27 PM »
And now back to our regular scheduled programming...

OP, surely this woman isn’t your only roommate option? Meet her, discuss the ground rules. If she seems cool with it, and you feel comfortable with her, then try it out. Otherwise, keep your ad up and see if there are any other takers who seem to match your lifestyle more.

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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2019, 06:59:48 PM »
Part of what's going to give a feeling of privacy is sound. Can you hear her when she's in her bedroom? If so, your guest will assume that your activities can be heard by Lady Landlord. When you visit, check how the sound travels inside that trailer.

Btw, I told a friend of mine this case. Response: "This situation will screen out generic women he might meet, but not unusual ones. It depends on who he wants to date."


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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2019, 07:04:26 PM »
he would have to watch Fox News in the common area every evening. Followed that up with some racist shit, unsurprisingly.

Why would that be unsurprising?  Are you really suggesting people who watch Fox News are racists?  Very progressive you are....

Fox News regularly touts racist views, so yes, I assume that people who prefer to get their news from there are fine with racism.

I always find it amusing how divisive the people are who scream the most about not dividing the country.  "He will not divide us" - AHHHH, you watch a certain television channel, you are racist!!!!!  Your comment couldn't be more divisive, nasty, and ridiculous.  It doesn't matter though. Go team! That's all that matters, right?

I think it's pretty obvious who is being divisive, and deliberately inflaming the discussion while creating a fake over-the-top reinterpretation of the opposing viewpoint.

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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2019, 07:04:49 PM »
Part of what's going to give a feeling of privacy is sound. Can you hear her when she's in her bedroom? If so, your guest will assume that your activities can be heard by Lady Landlord. When you visit, check how the sound travels inside that trailer.

Btw, I told a friend of mine this case. Response: "This situation will screen out generic women he might meet, but not unusual ones. It depends on who he wants to date."

That is very true. Just living in a trailer will screen out some.

Have you also looked at roommate ads in your area? Are you both willing to sign a month to month in case it doesn't work so well?

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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2019, 02:35:39 AM »
When I was a young student, I rented the attic at an old man's house and shared the bathroom and kitchen. I would keep to my own room and to the kitchen. I also brought my boyfriend along, from time to time, but he was not permanently living with me. That went pretty well. The old man liked to sit in the kitchen when I was there, to chat with me and chain smoke :-(. We were both clean at using for bathroom and kitchen.

I didn't live there to save money, but because it was all that I could afford. I much rather lived on my own (with my BF) as soon as I got the chance. At that time, living in your own place was the best option to avoid unwanted passive smoking.
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2019, 03:39:21 AM »
Go, check it out, see if you like it, see if you like her, and decide from there. Worst case scenario, you move.

We don't know anything about you or your preferences, whether you already live with roommates, if you prefer co-housing or living alone, whether you are looking for something long term, whether you have a ton of debt you are looking to tackle, whatever.

As for the pp's concerns about dating, if bringing women home to a very private and sound proof environment is a top priority, then obviously sharing a trailer isn't ideal. However, if this isn't a huge concern for you, then don't worry about it.

You seem really excited about this, enough so to start a thread about it, so it sounds like something worth trying if it all seems ok when you go check it out.

When it comes to roommates, they can be fucking weird for all sorts of reasons. They don't need to be 60 in order to be religious and take issue with guests. My university friend lived with a roommate her same age ~20, who would sob loudly to Jesus when men slept over. Some people are just fucking weird.

See if she's fucking weird, if she is, don't live with her...unless it's a fucking weird you're cool with.

FTR: I'm friends with a 65 year old whose roommate is a 22 year old student. They've lived together for 3 years and it works very well.

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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2019, 04:11:52 AM »
You’ll save $3k a year. Do you have a plan for those savings and will you stick with it? How long do you plan on renting for? I agree that you both should interview each other and be real. If you intend to have guests, share that up front and learn the ground rules. Having a roommate can be good if you have a plan, but it can be a nightmare if you don’t communicate and pull your weight. In this case, remember she’s your roommate, not your Mom and make sure you are super considerate and clean up after yourself. Oh, and have a lock on your room.

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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2019, 04:18:50 AM »
I mean $250/mo is nothing to sneeze at but when it comes to your sanity and quality of life I'm not sure if you're actually saving that much in the long run. If said amount is truly the difference between living with a random older person on a farm in a mobile home and having your own place closer to things then I'm not sure I fully understand.

Plus, this just sounds strange to me. WTF does it matter what age she feels?

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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2019, 04:34:32 AM »
I mean $250/mo is nothing to sneeze at but when it comes to your sanity and quality of life I'm not sure if you're actually saving that much in the long run. If said amount is truly the difference between living with a random older person on a farm in a mobile home and having your own place closer to things then I'm not sure I fully understand.

Plus, this just sounds strange to me. WTF does it matter what age she feels?

Indeed, check that the difference in rent doesn't get eaten up by bigger commuting costs.

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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2019, 06:36:35 AM »
The place is practically still in town so it's not like it's out in the boonies. But I emailed her yesterday asking if she's okay with guests ever, and she told me it seems like there is something behind that question. That's a red flag in itself, IMO. That's a question everybody asks. I'm not going to pursue this any further - the more I thought about a 60 year old renting from someone's trailer (she doesn't own it), the more I'm thinking there's something a little off. Oh well. I'm still able to save/invest a good chunk where I'm at, so it's not the end of the world.

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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2019, 08:23:41 AM »
She's 60, but feels 40 physically and mentally (I'm 27, so this might be a little weird..idk?) She wants to save money as well.

Why is it weird... wait, you don't have to shtup her for the extra rent or something do you?

Go meet her and find out any rules or whatever and see if she has a Mrs. Robinson type of vibe.

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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2019, 09:46:50 PM »
Maybe this is a regional thing and I don't understand, but, yes it is weird, and no way in hell are you bringing a date to some old lady's trailer. 

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« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2019, 09:53:26 PM »
The racist stuff above is comical.  People see and believe what they want. 

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« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2019, 11:55:12 AM »
Please cover all the topics with any potential roomies. Some people never consider these topics. The potential roomie seems nice and roomie shopping stops there. I know when I was renting my first place there were a ton of topics none of us discussed. And we three had some bumpy times b/c of it.

And avoid overtly religious roomies unless you share the similar convictions. I had no religious convictions or public opinions. My religious roomie was my worst roommate out of all of my roommates in the military or university. Partly due to our age and partly due to his beliefs. Preachy, didn't like to live by the very rules he preached. Dumped two dogs on me when he moved out. Bad with his budget. Started out with potential as a good friend and turned cold and distant along the way. Hardly knew him when he left. The two guys that replaced him were good guys.

When I left the military, I was happy to have my own place finally. My own hours, my own sleepovers, my own stuff, etc.
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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2019, 03:46:44 PM »
I hope that when I'm 60, I won't be running around telling 20something men I just met that I "feel 40". But you can never truly predict the future.

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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2019, 12:01:12 PM »
Whata load of bogeyman hooey is going on here!

I had roommates for years. Many former roomies are still friends. The alarmist stories posted above are hilarious. What, when your friend checked out the place it was spotlessly clean, but when he moved in, the kitchen was filthy?

OP, it's possible the woman isn't used to having roommates and is being just as cautious as you are. Your question may have sounded like you planned to have company all the time, or even move in a girlfriend.

Go, sit, and talk with her. Check the place out. Ask all of your questions. Your gut will give you the answers you seek, not a bunch of internet strangers, lovely as we are.

IIRC, @bluecollarmusician has a story about renting an over the garage apartment from an older lady. The resulting friendship had a wonderfully positive impact on both of their lives.

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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2019, 12:52:39 PM »
Since my friend @Dicey tagged, I will chime in.

Roommates, and your ability to live happily with them have as much to do with you as to do with who you rent from.  I have lived with roommates for most of my life in all kinds of situations- including sharing tiny cruise ship cabins without having any choice in the matter- though I have also lived alone.

You can make the best of the situation for as long as you want to or don't.  With regards to the woman's response to you- nothing weird about it.  You are both "presenting" what you believe will be appealing to a potential shared living situation.  You probably indicated in your ad that you were responsible, reliable, able to pay, etc.

She may have experienced ageism or some other type of bad experience that she wants to let you know accurately what the living situation is.

I will echo the sentiments of others here- if it is a good living situation for you- then do it! If it isn't a good fit, then don't!  But for certain, the benefits of a good roommate are more than just a savings on rent. 

Also- for what it's worth, for a variety of reasons having regular stay over guests is probably taboo for many living situations.  It was a strict no-no for a dear friend I lived with for a long time.  It sucked, but I respected her and her wishes.  It didn't deter me from an active dating life, and taught me a lot.  Although, I won't pretend that it didn't cause some inconvenience along the way. 

There are very few perfect situations- and in my experience the best way to get and appreciate a situation, is to sacrifice and work hard to get what you want.  Getting a single apartment that isn't what you want forever is costing you the ability to achieve the single place that you want forever faster.... ;-)

Side note- I think it is worth examining the view that your living situation should meet "all of your wants" -- Some things that we think are impossible to live without are VERY possible.  Many parents consider that they need bedrooms for all their children- while we have a generation of kids that regular deal with a lack of ability to deal with people in real life.  I shared a bedroom with my sister until I was 6 or 7.
 

I believe that if you are honest with yourself, and think creatively- especially if you are willing to forgo something that most people think of as an "absolute must have" you will find a world of options out there that are really amazing.

In my case, I was able to live in a beautiful home in a gated community with a wonderful woman who became my best friend for a tiny fraction of going rate rent purely because I was willing to move in with a very religious, kindly older woman.  Even though I had very different beliefs from her,  I respected her, and living with her was one of the great blessings in my life.


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Re: Just made a connection that may help me save BIG on rent
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2019, 01:00:26 PM »
I hope that when I'm 60, I won't be running around telling 20something men I just met that I "feel 40". But you can never truly predict the future.
She might have just been letting the OP know she's not an "old lady" sitting in her rocker all day ranting at the kids to get off her damn lawn but lived a regular middle aged person life. Probably nothing cougarish about it.

As for the OP I think its weird that people would wonder why a 60 Y.O. would get a roommate. That it somehow implies a mental health problem or poverty or she wants a young toy-boy. WTF! My (very attractive and vibrant and youthful) divorced Mom started getting roommates - usually 20-something students - when she was around 60 so she could semi-retire and just work p/t  once 62. The money paid for her world travel expenses and she had a built-in paying house sitter. A very mustashian thing imho. She did have rules though about no overnight guests or parties etc, and because she chose to rent a very large converted garage room with kitchen and laundry privileges instead of a whole house share, she didn't have to deal with the young uns hanging out in the living areas with her.
+1

Why not make some extra dough if you can?

Plenty of older folks live in my town, and they rent rooms to students all the time. 

As far as "I feel 40", well I agree with spartana that she's making a point that she's not doddering.  (I did have a student friend a couple of decades ago - he rented a room from an elderly lady.  He also spent much of his 25th birthday cleaning up after her as she'd fallen, couldn't get up, had an accident - was stuck laying on the kitchen floor for a few hours before he came home and found her, and called the ambulance.)