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Jobs that give summers off
« on: May 27, 2017, 06:16:25 AM »
Are there any jobs besides teaching that give you the summer off? I am thinking of making a career change at some point as we get to financial independence. I'd like to switch to a lower stress job that gives me summers off. (I don't consider traditional classroom teaching to be low stress.) I have a background in economics but I would be open to anything. Any ideas?

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Re: Jobs that give summers off
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2017, 06:30:14 AM »
Anything in a ski resort... bartender, BnB owner, chairlift operator, ski instructor...

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2017, 07:10:43 AM »
If you'll be FI, you can just choose to be unemployed in the summers like teachers but without the guaranteed job to return to in the fall. Unless you're looking for continuous employer health insurance? Most teachers who have signed a contract for fall do have that over the summer. If that's your goal, maybe try searching for contract work. If you're qualified (masters degree at a minimum), being a university lecturer is lower stress than both high school teachers and tenure track faculty. Some appointments are limited to 3 years, but not all.

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2017, 07:47:58 AM »
I second the university lecturer idea if you have a masters or higher.  That's my plan.  I'm currently a higher education administrator and the pay is great, but I'm working year round with only 3 weeks vacation plus 10 days over x-mas and holidays.

Make no mistake, universities will be hiring A LOT of full time lecturers in the coming years as they can't afford to have many tenured faculty on the payroll and the adjuncts unionize and create huge PR problems.  You won't make a ton of money, but you will be able to get healthcare and you'll be off from May - August.  I wouldn't say teaching 4 courses per semester is high stress.

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2017, 09:00:43 AM »
School secretary? It is pretty low stress from when I have subbed as the secretary.

School bus driver is high stress in my opinion, plus it is split shift.


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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2017, 11:45:59 AM »
I second the university lecturer idea if you have a masters or higher.  That's my plan.  I'm currently a higher education administrator and the pay is great, but I'm working year round with only 3 weeks vacation plus 10 days over x-mas and holidays.

Make no mistake, universities will be hiring A LOT of full time lecturers in the coming years as they can't afford to have many tenured faculty on the payroll and the adjuncts unionize and create huge PR problems.  You won't make a ton of money, but you will be able to get healthcare and you'll be off from May - August.  I wouldn't say teaching 4 courses per semester is high stress.
our FI plan as well.

Someone also mentioned Ski resorts. 
If you think a little more broadly you can work 'seasonally' - especially if you are willing to travel.  The 'seasonally' is in quotes becuase seasons change based on the sector.  As examples there's working on cruise ships and national parks (summer), Caribbean resorts (winter), delivery/retail (holidays), hunting/fishing guides (usually fall, but varies),
Sports coach (varies, but at HS/college level it's the school season), etc.

I know more than a few people who work in Alaska in the summer, retainl in the winter, gross >$40k/year and have ~6 months off per year.

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2017, 12:40:55 PM »
You usually need a PhD to be a lecturer. And there are too many graduates and not enough jobs in a lot of fields. It is not as easy to get a lectureship as some people think. And yes, you get the summer off , but most teach in the summers to make up for the lower pay. Tenured faculty only teach in the sumer if it involves overseas travel to some place they want to go. So my husband, who is a university lecturer "gets the summer off" but usually teaches for one or more sessions. Still not bad to teach one summer session and get around 6-7 weeks off . I work part time at the same university and get the summers off because my department is gone all summer, so no students around that would need me. So look for an admin type job for that.

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2017, 12:50:22 PM »
Thanks for these ideas. What do you think about teaching at a community college? I have a master's. I'm more concerned with having health insurance. I'm alright with low pay.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2017, 01:11:41 PM »
Thanks for these ideas. What do you think about teaching at a community college? I have a master's. I'm more concerned with having health insurance. I'm alright with low pay.

I adjunct at a community college. You will not get health insurance ;) Other than that it's fine.

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2017, 01:29:33 PM »
You usually need a PhD to be a lecturer. And there are too many graduates and not enough jobs in a lot of fields. It is not as easy to get a lectureship as some people think. And yes, you get the summer off , but most teach in the summers to make up for the lower pay. Tenured faculty only teach in the sumer if it involves overseas travel to some place they want to go. So my husband, who is a university lecturer "gets the summer off" but usually teaches for one or more sessions. Still not bad to teach one summer session and get around 6-7 weeks off . I work part time at the same university and get the summers off because my department is gone all summer, so no students around that would need me. So look for an admin type job for that.
Depends on the school.  My neighbor has a master's in bio and is a lecturer at the community college.  Not super high pay, but better than she got before she took the job.

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2017, 01:36:53 PM »
There are lots of public school system jobs other than classroom teacher that are low stress and get the Summers off.

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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2017, 02:00:31 PM »
I disagree with the "usually need a PhD" to be a full time lecturer.  I think this largely depends on geography and type of school.  My wife works at a rural community college and they employ plenty of full time lecturers without terminal degrees.  The pay can be low...quite low. But, I assumed a person on this board would have a FIRE mentality and mostly be looking for health insurance and some bonus money.  Yes, most lecturers do pick up overload courses during the school year and thus teach 5 or even 6 classes per semester (which is crazy).  And most do pick up summer classes to make ends meet.  That's why I'm banking my money now so I can afford to live on 45k.

You'll probably need to adjunct a few classes and get some good teaching surveys before you land a full time lecturer job. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2017, 03:44:06 PM »
Thanks for these ideas. What do you think about teaching at a community college? I have a master's. I'm more concerned with having health insurance. I'm alright with low pay.

Teaching at a community college is not soooo different than teaching high school.

My brother in law retired from his job as an engineer and got a job doing maintenance at the public schools, though he did a lot of work in the summer.

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2017, 03:59:00 PM »
My college roommate has a consulting business. She takes three months off every summer to go to Maine, where she lives in a little cabin on a tidal river estuary and kayaks every day. She will take phone calls from clients, but limits them to certain days and hours.

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2017, 04:28:06 PM »
How can you say teaching at a CC is not so different than HS?  I'll confess that I've never taught at a CC or HS, but I have adjuncted many classes at 4 year schools and I personally know CC faculty/lecturers.

I'll tell you how being a lecturer at a CC is probably radically different than a HS:  if you're a HS teacher you generally show up for work by 8am and probably stay until at least 3pm.  You have to deal with parents and committees and other things.  You're probably in the building 40+ hours a week.  Let's compare that to being a college lecturer (CC or university).  You're probably teaching 4 courses per semester (12 credit hours).  Teaching 12 credit hours means you probably have to hold about 5 office hours per week somewhere on campus (most likely a shared adjunct/lecturer office).  So you're actually on campus less than 20 hours per week.  The rest of the work, grading, can be done from virtually anywhere.  It's very possible a "full time" lecturer only goes to campus 3 days per week.

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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2017, 08:05:24 PM »
There are plenty of lower stress jobs in the school environment that also give you Summers off! Paraprofessionals, for example, work with kids on a one-on-one or in a group basis. They don't do any of the planning and leave everything at the door when school is done. There's also secretary positions, library staff, tech staff, and cafeteria staff.

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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2017, 08:29:03 PM »
I've taught at both the high school and the community college level (now tenured at the university level). CC is not as different from HS as a university, but it is very different.


At many CC's, though, you clock in at 8:00 am and clock out at 5:00 pm (sometimes literally), five days a week. So the hours may well be longer than at a high school. Basically, check into any schools you're interested in; the cultures and expectations vary wildly. But there will definitely be health insurance as long as you're not an adjunct.


The lack of a Ph.D. will (sometimes) keep someone off the tenure track, but not from a full-time lecturer position. In some fields with a real glut of PhDs, the competition may be fierce enough to exclude many people with masters degrees, but economics is not one of those fields. I've worked with many masters-degreed lecturers, at everything from that CC up to and including two different R1 institutions.


OP, if your interest is health insurance, you don't want to be an adjunct ( that's part-time). But something listed as 'instructor," "lecturer," or "visiting professor" (sometimes listed as VAP) is worth a look.

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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2017, 09:05:30 PM »
IDK, I think I would just buy health insurance...

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Re: Jobs that give summers off
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2017, 10:09:03 PM »
School secretary? It is pretty low stress from when I have subbed as the secretary.

School bus driver is high stress in my opinion, plus it is split shift.

The secretaries at my school are constantly answering the phone and fielding parents, principals, teachers, and whoever's at the front door. Very fishbowly.

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2017, 06:54:38 AM »
How can you say teaching at a CC is not so different than HS?  I'll confess that I've never taught at a CC or HS, but I have adjuncted many classes at 4 year schools and I personally know CC faculty/lecturers.

I'll tell you how being a lecturer at a CC is probably radically different than a HS:  if you're a HS teacher you generally show up for work by 8am and probably stay until at least 3pm.  You have to deal with parents and committees and other things.  You're probably in the building 40+ hours a week.  Let's compare that to being a college lecturer (CC or university).  You're probably teaching 4 courses per semester (12 credit hours).  Teaching 12 credit hours means you probably have to hold about 5 office hours per week somewhere on campus (most likely a shared adjunct/lecturer office).  So you're actually on campus less than 20 hours per week.  The rest of the work, grading, can be done from virtually anywhere.  It's very possible a "full time" lecturer only goes to campus 3 days per week.

Well, I was really thinking about the actual teaching aspect. LOL (I know many teachers at many levels, from preschool to university.)

Now, I assume that you have to prepare your lectures (my dh teaches at a university, and spends as much time prepping for lectures as he actually spends in class.) And you have to grade papers, again, very time consuming. And if you are actually on the faculty, even at the cc level, there's a lot of committee work.

So I guess you could phone that in to some extent, but I'd expect anyone teaching a full course load at a cc would be plenty busy.

But the actual stressful part, of trying to get poorly prepared and not always very interested students to engage with the material and do the assignments.... this is not a low stress job. Community college is not exactly teaching at Harvard. I know people who do it, and love it, but it's definitely hard work.

And my dh? At a 4 year university? He is on campus way more than 40 hours/week, and has never taken a summer off.
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2017, 07:27:17 AM »
Lecturers are generally protected from committee work to some degree (not completely).

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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2017, 08:12:39 AM »
I know you said "beside teaching" but I'm just going to throw in international teaching anyway. I get 14 weeks a year holiday (although the summer might be shorter than what Americans are used to) and while I work hard I wouldn't call it high stress. Decent money, health insurance covered and an awesome opportunity to see the world.


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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2017, 10:04:13 AM »
Thanks for these ideas. What do you think about teaching at a community college? I have a master's. I'm more concerned with having health insurance. I'm alright with low pay.

I teach as an adjunct at a community college in two different disciplines (I have masters degrees in both). The pay is low, the benefits are non-existent, and the job is not guaranteed from one semester to the next. Most adjunct positions are for 1 semester (~15 weeks) and you are always just waiting to find out if you have a teaching assignment for the next semester. If you're comfortable with low stability and having to constantly hustle, then being an adjunct is for you!

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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2017, 10:52:59 AM »
Thanks for these ideas. What do you think about teaching at a community college? I have a master's. I'm more concerned with having health insurance. I'm alright with low pay.

I teach as an adjunct at a community college in two different disciplines (I have masters degrees in both). The pay is low, the benefits are non-existent, and the job is not guaranteed from one semester to the next. Most adjunct positions are for 1 semester (~15 weeks) and you are always just waiting to find out if you have a teaching assignment for the next semester. If you're comfortable with low stability and having to constantly hustle, then being an adjunct is for you!

Yep,  I figure that an equivalent full time adjunct here at 40 hr/wk would make about $45k per year, with July and August off (with some admin work to set up courses / enter final grades in this time).  Of course, that includes a little bit of benefits and a decent defined benefit pension at 2% per year.... but $45k (CDN) for a person with a master's degree in a STEM field?  pretty sad.   I also have to supply my own laptop and software upgrades to work with the colleges' system, no free parking, etc.

One guy is likely making $60k per year, but has an enormous course load and lots of overtime...

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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2017, 11:36:23 AM »
Adjuncts in my area not only aren't eligible for any benefits, they are limited to teaching two classes/semester and are not eligible to teach summer classes. Nope.

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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2017, 11:56:53 AM »
Adjuncts in my area not only aren't eligible for any benefits, they are limited to teaching two classes/semester and are not eligible to teach summer classes. Nope.

Not to mention the pay. I taught two sections of Biology 2 lab last semester. On campus from 8:30am - 5:30pm one day per week, plus prep/grading time. I made about $140 for each day that I taught... so <$15/hr. No thanks.

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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2017, 12:03:40 PM »
How strict are you on "summers" off?  I am an engineer that works on projects and have been very successful at taking 2-4 months off between projects.  I just need to be flexible on starting my vacation with the project finishes.  I find that every season offers something spectacular to be enjoyed.

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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2017, 09:08:45 PM »
IDK, I think I would just buy health insurance...

+1.
If so concerned about health insurance premiums that you want to keep working, you could just start a service industry business and just not book any work in the summer. window washing, auto detailing... handyman? Babysitting?

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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2017, 09:43:15 AM »
Lecturers are generally protected from committee work to some degree (not completely).

Mostly true, but sometimes it depends on the institution.  I know a lecturer who is expected to engage in 2 of the 3 areas of tenure-track faculty responsibility: teaching, service, research.  Obviously teaching needs to be one of them.  She chooses to be active in service. Some of her fellow lecturers still engage in research.

Every institution is different.

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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2017, 10:13:04 AM »
Here are two that I just realized.   (Very few shifts, so only the owner or upper members are working).

Furnace installation and repair.
Chimney Sweep.

Santa Claus.... and other retail / shipping warehouse jobs that ramp up for Christmas -- usually starts in August, then ends in January.

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« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2017, 10:26:02 AM »
IDK, I think I would just buy health insurance...

+1.
If so concerned about health insurance premiums that you want to keep working, you could just start a service industry business and just not book any work in the summer. window washing, auto detailing... handyman? Babysitting?
Some people are concerned about access to health insurance, not just cost.  A small business won't help that.