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How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« on: March 03, 2025, 03:33:13 AM »
I keep reading about how those who don't adapt to AI and learn how to use it as a tool in their day to day working lives, will be "left behind" or struggle from a professional standpoint. I suspect that if there's any degree of truth to this, that it would also apply outside of the workplace.

What, if anything, should I do to learn how to use AI tools as an average joe and stay on top of the learning curve as this technology becomes more ubiquitous?

My first thought is that I should learn how to query LLMs. I wonder if it's really worth my time given that I am skeptical of how reliable/useful they are. I don't even know where to start on such an endeavor and am still using standard search engines when looking for information. On the other hand, if LLMs become prevalent in replacing communications between humans or in providing my information and news, I'd probably need more awareness and knowledge of their workings to cope. On the other other hand, LLMs seem just like the most buzz-worthy hype-inducing AI of the day. There's apparently a lot of more exciting and useful AI out there, like AI that can provide more accurate medical diagnoses based on imaging, etc.

I know next-to-nothing about AI apart from what I read in headlines. There's a part of me that wants to go crawl in a hole and another part of me that wants to convince everyone to abandon the last 15 years of technological "progress" in the name of re-upping our critical thinking skills as a society. Since that's not happening anytime soon I am trying to cope better with living in a changing world and prepare/adapt as best I can!

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2025, 03:45:13 AM »
I have taken multiple courses on using AI in business and will continue to do so.

I've also sampled the existing AI systems in my profession and will try them with every significant iteration.

I use AI myself quite regularly, and as a medical professional and as a complex patient, I see MASSIVE potential for benefit in my previous profession, and I am actively seeing a role for it in my current client population.

So many of my clients use ChatGPT between therapy sessions, it would actually be negligent of me not to understand it. So it's already part of my work, whether I choose it or not.

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2025, 05:15:29 AM »
Put the ChatGPT app on your phone and start asking it questions. ANY questions are fair.  It will get to know you and provide better personalized answers over time.  At the onset, tell it about yourself - age, gender, living location/situation, etc.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2025, 06:27:14 AM »
Put the ChatGPT app on your phone and start asking it questions. ANY questions are fair.  It will get to know you and provide better personalized answers over time.  At the onset, tell it about yourself - age, gender, living location/situation, etc.

Am I being paranoid by having a viscerally negative reaction to this suggestion? I don't want to give any app or company any information about me unless necessary anymore. I regret creating and using social media accounts after seeing what mega corporations are doing with people's data.

Then again, I'm open to discussion and would want to better understand what I might be missing out on by opting out.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2025, 07:27:41 AM »
So far I am pretty much ignoring AI. We'll see what shakes out in the medium term once the hype train has left the station. I don't need to be an early adopter. My professional work is limited these days and what I still do I have so optimized I do not need AI to save me any time or effort.

If there are AI tools that I find useful and I trust the results in the future I'll incorporate them into my life as seems logical.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2025, 03:12:18 PM »
Anyone share the concern about AI and crypto consuming vast amounts of energy? The only info I have about it is from the news websites.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2025, 03:40:05 PM »
Crypto, yes, I find it very concerning that we're wasting energy on a made up virtual coin.

A.I. has a lot of real world applications though, so I'm not very concerned about the energy usage.

We already had data centers running websites (like this forum) consuming massive amounts of energy before either came along....

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2025, 07:18:36 PM »
I TRIED to use AI to answer a relatively simple question “Are there more famous musical artists per capita from the UK?” but have been unsuccessful (that “seems right, with the Beatles etc. but who knows?)

Also tried to use it for answering a friends question based on Vietnam era footage “are US Citizens fatter now?” - that gave better results, based on historical BMI values, but still sketchy.

So much of what I’ve seen in my life and career requires experience and context and thinking through complex timelines and a lot of communication person to person(and it still gets screwed up).

This adds nothing to the discussion, but despite not loving AI, the other night as I lay struggling to sleep with a bad common cold my brain was convinced that AI had somehow “optimized” everything from germ killing to needed rest and I’d get well fast…I found it strangely comforting (and just over 48 hours in I AM mostly recovered).


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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2025, 08:10:53 PM »
FWIW, I've spent the last 25 years in tech (in Silicon Valley), with about a decade in software engg, and have founded a startup that utilizes AI. So you can either say I'm more informed than most people, or that I've drunk the kool-aid. Your choice :-)

These are the extreme opinions I see online:
  • We'll have AGI/ASI soon, and it will destroy all jobs, leading to utopia or dystopia, or both.
  • AI is merely a stochastic parrot, it just repeats what it found online, but it can't think or reason. It hallucinates, makes silly errors, etc. It's just another tool, like Microsoft Word or Excel.
This is the reality that I see:
  • Models are rapidly getting better, not just at finding and collating/organizing info, but at reasoning. Every time we think we hit a wall (e.g. by running out of training data), we figure out another method such as throwing more compute power at the problem, chain of thought, or reasoning models, etc. Pointing to some problem that AI can't handle today is like observing a 2-yr old can't program. That 2-yr old is getting very smart, very fast, at an exponential rate. I've seen this more or less since 2015, way before ChatGPT.
  • Even if you think we won't get AGI/ASI, the reality is that a lot of knowledge work is getting impacted, right now. I'm seeing this in Silicon Valley, with small 3-5 person startups grow rapidly with AI. Many large companies are pausing hiring, choosing to invest in AI instead.
  • The energy use is a moot point as chips grow super efficient. E.g., Nvidia's latest chip is 200x more efficient per compute than its chip just 18 months ago. Models are also growing smaller (to do the same task, the model size is smaller and runs on smaller hardware.)

How to get started? Install ChatGPT or Google Gemini or Anthropic's Claude on your phone (or go to those sites on your PC), and start using it. Give it a set of docs and ask it to summarize them. Or, ask it to give feedback on an article you are writing, or find some info to support or counter your arguments. Have a discussion with it, asking it to take on a personality. For now, don't give it any confidential info, and don't take its output at face value. You should think of it as a high school grad who's helpful, but may not always be right. As you get more familiar with it, use it more and more to help you with real, value-added tasks.

Happy to answer any questions!

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2025, 03:52:01 AM »
I know a fair bit about it. I wouldn't say I'm doing anything special to prepare for it. AI is just another tool so I'll probably keep learning about it and using it in ways that are useful. I've always been pretty good at learning new things and technology adoption. It will be interesting to watch. I'm not afraid of it stealing my particular job, it can't do what I do.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2025, 05:12:25 AM »
I TRIED to use AI to answer a relatively simple question “Are there more famous musical artists per capita from the UK?” but have been unsuccessful (that “seems right, with the Beatles etc. but who knows?)

Also tried to use it for answering a friends question based on Vietnam era footage “are US Citizens fatter now?” - that gave better results, based on historical BMI values, but still sketchy.

So much of what I’ve seen in my life and career requires experience and context and thinking through complex timelines and a lot of communication person to person(and it still gets screwed up).

This adds nothing to the discussion, but despite not loving AI, the other night as I lay struggling to sleep with a bad common cold my brain was convinced that AI had somehow “optimized” everything from germ killing to needed rest and I’d get well fast…I found it strangely comforting (and just over 48 hours in I AM mostly recovered).

This is very much where it's at right now. It's great for sifting through large volumes of info, but you absolutely must know what you are talking about to be able to assess the info it gives you because it makes A LOT of mistakes, even very simple, obvious ones.

I've absolutely LOVED working with it for gathering info that's really hard to Google because there are too many results with similar search terms to be able to find what I need, but I have to be able to tell when I'm getting errors.

So it's kind of like having a research assistant who makes a lot of mistakes, that can still save you hours upon hours of sifting through Google results, but you must check their work.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2025, 09:26:44 AM »
I work in a creative field, and we are all concerned that AI will replace many of our jobs, and the way to adapt will be to find a new career. It's one thing to have AI replace tedious, menial work, but do we want to live in a world where all art -- music, photography, filmmaking, etc -- is created by machines?

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2025, 10:30:16 AM »

This is my impression as well, though I'm not an experienced software engineer but more of a hobbyist programmer. I'm finding it very useful as a mostly helpful, experienced colleague, to ask questions about programming approaches, software libraries to use, algorithms and syntax.  It's definitely not perfect, but I think that the questions that it stumbles on occasionally are fairly difficult. But it mostly gets things correct. The great thing is that you can continue to ask it more detailed questions and even write and re-write some code for you, as opposed to seeing something on stack overflow (a programming Q&A website) that is similar to the problem you want to solve, but not quite the same. I like to have it explain bits of code to me so I can better understand how the code works, so I am learning.


I will say that I am glad that I learned most of my programming before AI so that I can use it to supplement my research process (using it instead of google or stack overflow) instead of just relying solely on it to write my code. 


I do imagine that in a few years, maybe none of this would be necessary at all and I would just ask it for a program that does X,Y and Z and it'll make a nice web or desktop software package for you.

FWIW, I've spent the last 25 years in tech (in Silicon Valley), with about a decade in software engg, and have founded a startup that utilizes AI. So you can either say I'm more informed than most people, or that I've drunk the kool-aid. Your choice :-)

These are the extreme opinions I see online:
  • We'll have AGI/ASI soon, and it will destroy all jobs, leading to utopia or dystopia, or both.
  • AI is merely a stochastic parrot, it just repeats what it found online, but it can't think or reason. It hallucinates, makes silly errors, etc. It's just another tool, like Microsoft Word or Excel.
This is the reality that I see:
  • Models are rapidly getting better, not just at finding and collating/organizing info, but at reasoning. Every time we think we hit a wall (e.g. by running out of training data), we figure out another method such as throwing more compute power at the problem, chain of thought, or reasoning models, etc. Pointing to some problem that AI can't handle today is like observing a 2-yr old can't program. That 2-yr old is getting very smart, very fast, at an exponential rate. I've seen this more or less since 2015, way before ChatGPT.
  • Even if you think we won't get AGI/ASI, the reality is that a lot of knowledge work is getting impacted, right now. I'm seeing this in Silicon Valley, with small 3-5 person startups grow rapidly with AI. Many large companies are pausing hiring, choosing to invest in AI instead.
  • The energy use is a moot point as chips grow super efficient. E.g., Nvidia's latest chip is 200x more efficient per compute than its chip just 18 months ago. Models are also growing smaller (to do the same task, the model size is smaller and runs on smaller hardware.)
How to get started? Install ChatGPT or Google Gemini or Anthropic's Claude on your phone (or go to those sites on your PC), and start using it. Give it a set of docs and ask it to summarize them. Or, ask it to give feedback on an article you are writing, or find some info to support or counter your arguments. Have a discussion with it, asking it to take on a personality. For now, don't give it any confidential info, and don't take its output at face value. You should think of it as a high school grad who's helpful, but may not always be right. As you get more familiar with it, use it more and more to help you with real, value-added tasks.

Happy to answer any questions!

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2025, 11:18:10 AM »
I think the most instructive way to ask how to prepare yourself is just to start using it if you don't already - personally as a Tech worker I'd be surprised if there's anyone still left in Tech that doesn't already uses it extensively to help with parts of their jobs that were much harder and more laborious just a few years ago before LLMs were widely available. I'm sure people in many other fields will be of similar opinion.

IMO there's very few desk/knowledge based jobs where you couldn't easily use it to raise bolster your output or help you learn new skills.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2025, 09:56:39 AM »
I think the most instructive way to ask how to prepare yourself is just to start using it if you don't already - personally as a Tech worker I'd be surprised if there's anyone still left in Tech that doesn't already uses it extensively to help with parts of their jobs that were much harder and more laborious just a few years ago before LLMs were widely available. I'm sure people in many other fields will be of similar opinion.

IMO there's very few desk/knowledge based jobs where you couldn't easily use it to raise bolster your output or help you learn new skills.

I completely agree with you.

And it's not just tech, AI has use in so many realms. It's very present in my career, which is essentially the antithesis of a tech field.

I was just attending a lecture from my other professional college on the use of AI in medical imaging interpretation, and the questions and criticisms written in by the medical professionals attending were actually embarrassing.

I have been using AI regularly for day to day professional and personal function, and I could tell than no one asking these dumb questions had spent even a second trying to work with any of the AI systems that exist.

I absolutely see how AI will displace a lot of human work in my field, but I also see how understanding it is crucial to maintaining my utility alongside it, and my ability to harness it to facilitate my own work.

I thought ChatGPT was so idiotic at first because my first interaction with it was with my fellow grad students talking about using it for assignments, and I tried just out of curiosity and it was so shitty. It took more work to get it to produce something even half not embarrassing than it did for me to just write something myself.

So I shat all over ChatGPT for a long time.

But then I took courses on how to use it in small business, especially for marketing, and then I practiced quite a bit and figured out how to interact with it to produce better outcomes, and now I take back a lot of the earlier shit talk.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2025, 11:33:20 AM »
I have not personally found it useful. The few times I've tried using it to make my life easier it's either failed outright due to the task being too large/difficult (combining a bunch of different reading lists into one master list and removing duplicates), or giving me outright wrong information (travel planning + visa/entry requirements).

I'm not a real professional and I don't care if AI takes me job because I have a lot of money and am only working now because I can read at work and get paid, vacation time, medical coverage, and better ergonomics for reading, versus reading at home and getting none of those things. So reaching FI stat is certainly one approach a person could take, and then just let whatever happens happen.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2025, 02:31:50 PM »

This is my impression as well, though I'm not an experienced software engineer but more of a hobbyist programmer. I'm finding it very useful as a mostly helpful, experienced colleague, to ask questions about programming approaches, software libraries to use, algorithms and syntax.  It's definitely not perfect, but I think that the questions that it stumbles on occasionally are fairly difficult. But it mostly gets things correct. The great thing is that you can continue to ask it more detailed questions and even write and re-write some code for you, as opposed to seeing something on stack overflow (a programming Q&A website) that is similar to the problem you want to solve, but not quite the same. I like to have it explain bits of code to me so I can better understand how the code works, so I am learning.


I will say that I am glad that I learned most of my programming before AI so that I can use it to supplement my research process (using it instead of google or stack overflow) instead of just relying solely on it to write my code. 


I do imagine that in a few years, maybe none of this would be necessary at all and I would just ask it for a program that does X,Y and Z and it'll make a nice web or desktop software package for you.

FWIW, I've spent the last 25 years in tech (in Silicon Valley), with about a decade in software engg, and have founded a startup that utilizes AI. So you can either say I'm more informed than most people, or that I've drunk the kool-aid. Your choice :-)

These are the extreme opinions I see online:
  • We'll have AGI/ASI soon, and it will destroy all jobs, leading to utopia or dystopia, or both.
  • AI is merely a stochastic parrot, it just repeats what it found online, but it can't think or reason. It hallucinates, makes silly errors, etc. It's just another tool, like Microsoft Word or Excel.
This is the reality that I see:
  • Models are rapidly getting better, not just at finding and collating/organizing info, but at reasoning. Every time we think we hit a wall (e.g. by running out of training data), we figure out another method such as throwing more compute power at the problem, chain of thought, or reasoning models, etc. Pointing to some problem that AI can't handle today is like observing a 2-yr old can't program. That 2-yr old is getting very smart, very fast, at an exponential rate. I've seen this more or less since 2015, way before ChatGPT.
  • Even if you think we won't get AGI/ASI, the reality is that a lot of knowledge work is getting impacted, right now. I'm seeing this in Silicon Valley, with small 3-5 person startups grow rapidly with AI. Many large companies are pausing hiring, choosing to invest in AI instead.
  • The energy use is a moot point as chips grow super efficient. E.g., Nvidia's latest chip is 200x more efficient per compute than its chip just 18 months ago. Models are also growing smaller (to do the same task, the model size is smaller and runs on smaller hardware.)
How to get started? Install ChatGPT or Google Gemini or Anthropic's Claude on your phone (or go to those sites on your PC), and start using it. Give it a set of docs and ask it to summarize them. Or, ask it to give feedback on an article you are writing, or find some info to support or counter your arguments. Have a discussion with it, asking it to take on a personality. For now, don't give it any confidential info, and don't take its output at face value. You should think of it as a high school grad who's helpful, but may not always be right. As you get more familiar with it, use it more and more to help you with real, value-added tasks.

Happy to answer any questions!

I'm a programmer, and I use AI to look at code and check it for errors, or just come up with a better algorithm. It's not much good for Fortran, but that's ok. It's much more useful for Python and Java, both of which I'm proficient in, but no expert. I like being able to check my code to see if it's the best approach to a problem.

AI is also pretty good for adding programming notes and adding print/display logic for debugging. I was just debugging a program with 16 different updates to a variable, and after I typed
"print *, 'TXN_CODE 1 = ', txn_code" under the first change, all I had to do was hit enter after each following change and it automatically put in the print statement and incremented the counter, so it knew I wanted TXN_CODE 2 =, TXN_CODE 3 =, etc.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2025, 09:52:42 AM »
I saw a post the other day about AI, and I think it made a really good point. Yes, AI is awesome and wonderful etc, but there is going to come a time when it is not free. It will be enshittified. And if you don't learn the skills of writing and thinking and everything else that AI can be relied on for right now, then when that happens you're really going to be in trouble.

So, sure, use AI to assist. But if you can't do the thing without AI, maybe that's a problem.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2025, 09:58:14 AM by Sibley »

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2025, 01:09:15 PM »
I saw a post the other day about AI, and I think it made a really good point. Yes, AI is awesome and wonderful etc, but there is going to come a time when it is not free. It will be enshittified. And if you don't learn the skills of writing and thinking and everything else that AI can be relied on for right now, then when that happens you're really going to be in trouble.

So, sure, use AI to assist. But if you can't do the thing without AI, maybe that's a problem.

This is a good point, and a slightly different way of looking at the one big problem I see coming out as AI becomes more adopted - lower self-reliance.
For example, how many phone numbers do people remember now, since they are all stored on your phone? If I lost my phone, I'd only be able to contact maybe one or two people if I was stranded.

Or, I notice, now when I use either Google Maps or Apple Maps for GPS, it takes me a few times to get where I want to go in order to actually learn how I got there, vs when I had to rely on maps or mapquest, and look out for road signs. Apple maps doesn't even give road names these days, it just says "at the next light, make a left", which honestly I love, but then I never do learn the road that I made the left on.

I can see the same thing happening with AI. Useful tool, quite possibly, but as more people are born into a world where it's available I think it's going to cause a problem with intellectual health with a lot of people. Why read this whole article when this AI will summarize and give me the bullet points? Except that reading for comprehension is extremely important for intellectual health. And that's not to say ALL people will use it to the point that this is a problem for them, but just like social media I think it has the potential to be a huge negative in society.

I imagine there will be an increasingly growing industry of products developed to try to build up the brain muscles that end up rotting away from AI and Tik Tok in the next generations. I think I am getting old..

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2025, 08:48:16 PM »
Like everything else, it just means smart people will be better off in relative terms and dumb people will be worse  off - continuing a long term trend.

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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2025, 09:09:24 PM »
I would suggest getting yourself a broad but shallow base of knowledge about subjects you might care to ask AI about, and then a healthy dose of skepticism.

I'm also software. I've tried using the existing latest and greatest AIs to do coding tasks.

It sucks.

It hallucinates -- it gets syntax to use a library wrong. Multiple times. So you need to understand the library and keep correcting it. Or you can feed it the errors, I guess, but you have to engage in this cycle. I'm not sure it even understands the library. It might just be trying random syntax until it hits on something I don't have to tell it that it is wrong at. I'm actually pretty convinced the random syntax thing is actually what it is going on under the hood. Not that anyone can really explain what's going on to argue for or against that.

It also fails to do what it tells you it will. "Here's my 3-step plan, want me to do it?" Yes. <AI fails to actually do step 3 of the plan, removing a dead import.>

I know my company is using it with success in some places -- but I'm not inclined to worry about my job to it.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2025, 08:09:42 AM »
I worry about the generation of kids who aren't learning how to read for comprehension, because AI will do a summary. Or the ones who never learn math because AI tells them the answer. There's potential for skill gaps at the most fundamental levels.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2025, 09:01:40 AM »
I worry about the generation of kids who aren't learning how to read for comprehension, because AI will do a summary. Or the ones who never learn math because AI tells them the answer. There's potential for skill gaps at the most fundamental levels.

Playing devil's advocate -
This coming AI-filled world is presumed to be very technologically powerful.
The people that are building this world are the same people that were raised with calculators in the classroom. Some of them also had laptops at their desks and smartphones in their pockets.
Yes I know. There is not an even distribution of people across the population that have the skills to develop such powerful tools.

So, as long as there is a sufficient number of people that are good enough at reading, writing, and arithmetic to push civilization forward what is the problem?
The rest of them have to be just smart enough to adequately use it to avoid falling too far behind.


I am opposed to moving the world in that direction, personally. And I'm even more so opposed to the tactics of the AI building companies and the applications that are most prominently having AI used to "improve" them.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2025, 09:13:51 AM »
I worry about the generation of kids who aren't learning how to read for comprehension, because AI will do a summary. Or the ones who never learn math because AI tells them the answer. There's potential for skill gaps at the most fundamental levels.

Playing devil's advocate -
This coming AI-filled world is presumed to be very technologically powerful.
The people that are building this world are the same people that were raised with calculators in the classroom. Some of them also had laptops at their desks and smartphones in their pockets.
Yes I know. There is not an even distribution of people across the population that have the skills to develop such powerful tools.

So, as long as there is a sufficient number of people that are good enough at reading, writing, and arithmetic to push civilization forward what is the problem?
The rest of them have to be just smart enough to adequately use it to avoid falling too far behind.


I am opposed to moving the world in that direction, personally. And I'm even more so opposed to the tactics of the AI building companies and the applications that are most prominently having AI used to "improve" them.

Because I believe that that all people deserve an opportunity. And realistically, yes we're going to go the direction you say. That doesn't mean it's right, or good, or desired. And frankly, unless we want to get into a really dystopian situation of the privileged few vs. the enslaved or starving masses, we would need to dramatically reduce the world's population. Yes, birthrates are down, but I'm not aware they're down that much.

The problem with devil's advocate is you start arguing for things that really are not desirable or good. And then you actually start thinking those things are good. Be careful.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2025, 09:16:40 AM »
I would suggest getting yourself a broad but shallow base of knowledge about subjects you might care to ask AI about, and then a healthy dose of skepticism.

I'm also software. I've tried using the existing latest and greatest AIs to do coding tasks.

It sucks.

It hallucinates -- it gets syntax to use a library wrong. Multiple times. So you need to understand the library and keep correcting it. Or you can feed it the errors, I guess, but you have to engage in this cycle. I'm not sure it even understands the library. It might just be trying random syntax until it hits on something I don't have to tell it that it is wrong at. I'm actually pretty convinced the random syntax thing is actually what it is going on under the hood. Not that anyone can really explain what's going on to argue for or against that.

It also fails to do what it tells you it will. "Here's my 3-step plan, want me to do it?" Yes. <AI fails to actually do step 3 of the plan, removing a dead import.>

I know my company is using it with success in some places -- but I'm not inclined to worry about my job to it.


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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2025, 09:55:40 AM »
I found Grok3 to fairly decent designing LTSpice netlist files for some circuits.  I simulated them and they did work.  Filter design, some amplifier stages, etc.

I was a bit impressed NGL.

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« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2025, 06:29:16 PM »
I worry about the generation of kids who aren't learning how to read for comprehension, because AI will do a summary. Or the ones who never learn math because AI tells them the answer. There's potential for skill gaps at the most fundamental levels.

Playing devil's advocate -
This coming AI-filled world is presumed to be very technologically powerful.
The people that are building this world are the same people that were raised with calculators in the classroom. Some of them also had laptops at their desks and smartphones in their pockets.
Yes I know. There is not an even distribution of people across the population that have the skills to develop such powerful tools.

So, as long as there is a sufficient number of people that are good enough at reading, writing, and arithmetic to push civilization forward what is the problem?
The rest of them have to be just smart enough to adequately use it to avoid falling too far behind.


I am opposed to moving the world in that direction, personally. And I'm even more so opposed to the tactics of the AI building companies and the applications that are most prominently having AI used to "improve" them.

Because I believe that that all people deserve an opportunity. And realistically, yes we're going to go the direction you say. That doesn't mean it's right, or good, or desired. And frankly, unless we want to get into a really dystopian situation of the privileged few vs. the enslaved or starving masses, we would need to dramatically reduce the world's population. Yes, birthrates are down, but I'm not aware they're down that much.

The problem with devil's advocate is you start arguing for things that really are not desirable or good. And then you actually start thinking those things are good. Be careful.

Everyone does still have the opportunity. Having more AI tools at your disposal doesn't deprive you of any opportunity to learn things 'manually'. Indeed, in a world with fast and free internet, bountiful information and AI assistance, it would be hard to say that anyone has less opportunity for learning than someone born 30 years ago with none of those things, who was reliant on physical libraries and schoolteachers.

If you are born without wealth or privilege, but have a good work ethic and a good brain, you will do better now than at any time in human history.

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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2025, 12:28:00 AM »
I worry about the generation of kids who aren't learning how to read for comprehension, because AI will do a summary. Or the ones who never learn math because AI tells them the answer. There's potential for skill gaps at the most fundamental levels.

Playing devil's advocate -
This coming AI-filled world is presumed to be very technologically powerful.
The people that are building this world are the same people that were raised with calculators in the classroom. Some of them also had laptops at their desks and smartphones in their pockets.
Yes I know. There is not an even distribution of people across the population that have the skills to develop such powerful tools.

So, as long as there is a sufficient number of people that are good enough at reading, writing, and arithmetic to push civilization forward what is the problem?
The rest of them have to be just smart enough to adequately use it to avoid falling too far behind.


I am opposed to moving the world in that direction, personally. And I'm even more so opposed to the tactics of the AI building companies and the applications that are most prominently having AI used to "improve" them.

Because I believe that that all people deserve an opportunity. And realistically, yes we're going to go the direction you say. That doesn't mean it's right, or good, or desired. And frankly, unless we want to get into a really dystopian situation of the privileged few vs. the enslaved or starving masses, we would need to dramatically reduce the world's population. Yes, birthrates are down, but I'm not aware they're down that much.

The problem with devil's advocate is you start arguing for things that really are not desirable or good. And then you actually start thinking those things are good. Be careful.

Everyone does still have the opportunity. Having more AI tools at your disposal doesn't deprive you of any opportunity to learn things 'manually'. Indeed, in a world with fast and free internet, bountiful information and AI assistance, it would be hard to say that anyone has less opportunity for learning than someone born 30 years ago with none of those things, who was reliant on physical libraries and schoolteachers.

If you are born without wealth or privilege, but have a good work ethic and a good brain, you will do better now than at any time in human history.

Also, valuable skills change over time depending on what the technological landscape is.

AI may displace some human skills, but it will create others the same way that all major tech innovation does. And while AI absolutely necessitates that we drastically alter the way we teach and assess students, I personally think that we're several decades beyond needing to overhaul primary and secondary education as it is.


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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2025, 07:13:48 AM »
Anyone familiar with real-world AI have any opinions about the AI in William Gibson’s “Agency” novels?

In those stories, AI is ubiquitous and works for both good and evil. In many ways an AI is the hero of Agency.

Some readers don’t enjoy his style which throws you into the deep end of an imagined world without any helpful exposition. Others love that. But he seems to be an astute observer who extrapolates present reality into intriguing near-futures (Ok, there’s a direly grim aspect to it too, no spoilers).

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2025, 06:05:03 PM »
I keep reading about how those who don't adapt to AI and learn how to use it as a tool in their day to day working lives, will be "left behind" or struggle from a professional standpoint. I suspect that if there's any degree of truth to this, that it would also apply outside of the workplace.

Be sure you sort out who is writing those articles.  There's certainly a lot of AI company propaganda about how utterly important they will be for everything - because if they aren't, if they're just a cute toy burning billions of dollars on training, then they won't get their next rounds of funding!  And in terms of being able to customize the particular inane blather coming out to the particular audience, they're well suited to it.

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... and another part of me that wants to convince everyone to abandon the last 15 years of technological "progress" in the name of re-upping our critical thinking skills as a society. Since that's not happening anytime soon I am trying to cope better with living in a changing world and prepare/adapt as best I can!

Do that.  Build analog, offline, in person community again, because that's how humans thrive.  We have over a decade of "cell phone mediated, for-profit tech company first" data on how it impacts humans, and it's awful.  If you remember what life was before cell phones in every pocket, fight for that.  You know what life can be without the black mirrors in every hand, feeding people their personalized algorithm of anger, outrage, hate, jealousy, envy, and greed (I believe the preferred term is "engaging content," but I'll call a spade a spade).

Am I being paranoid by having a viscerally negative reaction to this suggestion? I don't want to give any app or company any information about me unless necessary anymore.

You aren't.  Anything you provide them will be used to manipulate you in the future.  The standard rules of the internet apply, assume everything you say and do, even down to keystroke timing, is being logged so it can be big-data analyzed to better optimize how to sell ad impressions to the people who want you influence you.

Their business model is literally based on "stealing everything on the internet that isn't nailed down, and applying as much of a crowbar as they can find to that which is," and then claiming, with no legal justification, some sort of fair use.  Based on those origins, it's safe to assume that they're doing the same with any sort of user input, or sensor data they can extract from a phone.  At least my laptop isn't feeding accelerometer and gyroscope data to the website without permissions!  The amount of "interesting data" you can collection from the sensors that don't need permission is... impressive.

We already had data centers running websites (like this forum) consuming massive amounts of energy before either came along....

Apples and cold fusion reactors in deep space.  The amount of energy required to run a traditional web forum is tiny compared to what the AI engines require for answers, and, worse, what they require for training.  The efficiency gains in chips are just used to run larger models in the same megawatts.  I ran, decades ago, some decent web forums on single core Pentium III servers, with tolerable enough amounts of traffic.  Those machines can't even browse the web anymore.  PHPBB is very energy efficient compared to any of the LLMs or other AI models.

It's one thing to have AI replace tedious, menial work, but do we want to live in a world where all art -- music, photography, filmmaking, etc -- is created by machines?

If you're the sort of person who has to pay for those services, certainly!  Why bother paying a human when ripping off the entire history of human art is cheaper?  Recall the meme: We wanted a future where AI did our laundry so we could make music and art.  We got a future where AI makes our music and art, so we can do laundry.  The right answer is to reject this future, and build human-centric groups and organizations that still focus on human thriving, not that optimize tech billionaire thriving.

... personally as a Tech worker I'd be surprised if there's anyone still left in Tech that doesn't already uses it extensively to help with parts of their jobs that were much harder and more laborious just a few years ago before LLMs were widely available.

I'm in tech.  I don't.  I've tried.  It's worthless.  Several different coding-optimized models, as well as several general purpose models, have a reliable way of making up functions and intrinsics that don't exist, but would be really convenient if they did.  They will reliable generate assembly that doesn't build, or that is simply wrong (confusing general purpose and vector registers is a common one, or not moving data between them).  It's quicker to just go find a reference myself and look up what I need than it is to ask professional bullshitters to generate the sequences, and I come away with actual understanding as well, instead of just some code that likely contains sharp corner cases that will eventually bite.

I saw a post the other day about AI, and I think it made a really good point. Yes, AI is awesome and wonderful etc, but there is going to come a time when it is not free. It will be enshittified.

Of course.  When the expected monoplies don't arise for the first movers, or the later movers, eventually someone will start asking how those billions will be paid back, and it will, as it was with social media, be fairly easy to "tweak" things to better support monetization.  Of course, not in the overt ways.  But even Reddit is worthless as far as a review site anymore with all the fraud, and AI will be far harder to sort out.  Why, of course FooBar Mark 2 Sunglasses are the best, everyone says so!  Says the query sponsored by FooBar Sunglasses.

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And if you don't learn the skills of writing and thinking and everything else that AI can be relied on for right now, then when that happens you're really going to be in trouble.

But if you have those skills, you'll stand out.  The person who can drive everything is a leg up, for at least a range of options, in the world of self driving cars when nobody learns to drive anymore.  Of course, that hype bubble seems to have nicely burst on the sharp edges of reality too.  This, too, shall pass.

However it works, it will be easy enough to use, if all you want is a confident 90% correct, 10% utter bullshit answer.  And if you know enough to tell the difference, you don't need to ask the nice robot in the first place.

I think it's perfectly fine to continue ignoring it, though.  Focus on keeping your actual human-skills sharp, and wait for the rubble to stop bouncing.  At current cash burn rates, it probably won't be long.

That's without considering some of the other, fringe considerations about what sort of nasties may be able to influence this sort of vague, handwaving, fuzzy math.  But I'm perfectly happy staying away from it all at this point.

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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2025, 07:26:10 PM »
It's good to be FIRE.

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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2025, 07:52:07 PM »
I've found it useful.  You do have to learn how to use it, like any tool.  Hallucinations can be controlled for by going through a verification of sources requirement. 

It is good at summarizing articles, some kinds of drafting, some kinds of research, organizing complex information, and, surprisingly, engaging in and expanding lines of inquiry. 

After interacting with Chatgpt for several months it accurately identified my personality type from the types of searches and methodologies I use.  Totally get that some are going to find that going too far but that is current reality and it is only going to get "smarter".  My sense is that it could eventually be a very accessible and effective counsellor for those who are not worried about disclosing personal information to AI as it can assess thought patterns against therapeutic standards.

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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2025, 01:59:31 AM »
It's great if you're a creative klutz like me.  I just asked it to do this for me-


If (For Investors)

If you can keep your calm when markets crash,
And trust your research when others rash;
If you can wait, though stocks may fall and sway,
And stay the course, come what may, day by day;
If you can manage risk and still endure,
And through the noise, stay steady and secure;
If you can look at charts and trends askew,
And hold your faith when others panic too;
If you can bear to see your portfolio drop,
And yet have courage, never letting stop,
Your plan, your vision, through the market’s storm,
Knowing that cycles will return to norm;

If you can diversify and not obsess,
On one asset class, avoiding stress;
If you can balance greed with cautious care,
And value assets with a mind aware;
If you can wait for bear markets to end,
And buy when others sell, as they descend;
If you can keep your patience through the years,
And silence out the speculative fears;
When there’s blood in the street and panic reigns,
You stand unwavering, with no disdain;

If you can weather volatility's bite,
And always trust in long-term, steady flight;
When the shoeshine boys are giving stock tips,
You hold your ground while others take risky dips;
If you can build your wealth without the haste,
And know the value of your risk embraced;
If you can keep your cool when others flee,
And invest with wisdom, unfazed by the spree;
Then, when the market cycles come to pass,
You’ll know that you’ve weathered all, at last,
And through it all, with patience and grace,
An investor you’ll be.

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« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2025, 06:56:46 AM »
I've found it useful.  You do have to learn how to use it, like any tool.  Hallucinations can be controlled for by going through a verification of sources requirement. 

It is good at summarizing articles, some kinds of drafting, some kinds of research, organizing complex information, and, surprisingly, engaging in and expanding lines of inquiry. 

After interacting with Chatgpt for several months it accurately identified my personality type from the types of searches and methodologies I use.  Totally get that some are going to find that going too far but that is current reality and it is only going to get "smarter".  My sense is that it could eventually be a very accessible and effective counsellor for those who are not worried about disclosing personal information to AI as it can assess thought patterns against therapeutic standards.

It is, almost all of my youngest clients use it as an adjunct to therapy between sessions and it's remarkably effective for low-level therapy. And professional AI systems are training on millions of real sessions right now and will become even more skilled.

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« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2025, 06:58:01 PM »
I found Grok3 to fairly decent designing LTSpice netlist files for some circuits.  I simulated them and they did work.  Filter design, some amplifier stages, etc.

I was a bit impressed NGL.

Can you find them yourself with a google search? Or pieces of them with a google search and putting them together is just kinda a+b+c?

If so, don't be impressed.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2025, 07:50:54 PM »
Can you find them yourself with a google search? Or pieces of them with a google search and putting them together is just kinda a+b+c?

If so, don't be impressed.

Pieces of them yes, not a complete design with the specs I want.  What was impressive too was that it parsed my somewhat brief description of what I wanted the circuit to do and from that context, grabbed all of the correct pieces from I guess around the web, assembled them into the complete circuit with correctly designed component values, and then built the LTSpice netlist.   I could totally see cheating on homework with this tool, but that isn't a good thing.

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« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2025, 08:01:01 PM »
I'm planning a road trip and tried a very simple question with AI, "Where can I stop for lunch driving from Prince George to Fort St. John?" - the suggestions were either in the opposite direction, or in a city totally out of the way. That seems like a fairly simple one to me, surprised it screwed up that badly.

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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2025, 09:32:50 AM »
I'm planning a road trip and tried a very simple question with AI, "Where can I stop for lunch driving from Prince George to Fort St. John?" - the suggestions were either in the opposite direction, or in a city totally out of the way. That seems like a fairly simple one to me, surprised it screwed up that badly.

It screws up simple, factual things very easily. It's surprisingly much better with processing more complex ideas than giving simple information.

I've found it incredible for assisting in differential diagnosis and absolutely useless in helping generate a dosing protocol, which is actually the reverse of what I expected when I started using it.

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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2025, 10:20:58 AM »
I'm planning a road trip and tried a very simple question with AI, "Where can I stop for lunch driving from Prince George to Fort St. John?" - the suggestions were either in the opposite direction, or in a city totally out of the way. That seems like a fairly simple one to me, surprised it screwed up that badly.

I tried this on Grok3 and got these results:

1. Bear's Paw Cafe (Bear Lake)
Location: Bear Lake, BC (approximately 1 hour from Prince George) 

Description: A cozy, welcoming cafe offering homemade breakfast and lunch options. The menu features comforting, hearty meals perfect for fueling up early in your drive. 

Why stop here?: Ideal if you’re leaving Prince George in the morning and want a relaxed, home-style meal in a small community setting.

2. The Pine Bistro (Chetwynd)
Location: Chetwynd, BC (approximately 3 hours from Prince George) 

Description: A traveler’s favorite, this diner is known for its hearty, home-style cooking and friendly atmosphere. Expect classic comfort food like burgers, sandwiches, and daily specials. 

Why stop here?: Chetwynd is roughly halfway between Prince George and Fort St. John, making it a convenient and popular lunch spot.

3. Dragon Palace Restaurant (Chetwynd)
Location: Chetwynd, BC 

Description: This Chinese restaurant offers a variety of flavorful dishes, such as stir-fries and noodle bowls, providing a tasty alternative to typical diner fare. 

Why stop here?: Adds variety to your lunch options and is perfectly situated in Chetwynd for a midday break.

4. Subway (Chetwynd)
Location: Chetwynd, BC 

Description: A familiar chain offering fresh, customizable sandwiches, salads, and wraps. It’s a great choice for a quick and light meal on the go. 

Why stop here?: Perfect for travelers who want something fast and reliable without spending too much time off the road.

5. Mile 0 Diner (Dawson Creek)
Location: Dawson Creek, BC (approximately 4.5 hours from Prince George) 

Description: Famous for its burgers, milkshakes, and retro diner vibe, this local favorite offers a fun and satisfying dining experience. 

Why stop here?: A great option if you’re planning a later lunch or want a stop closer to Fort St. John (about 1.5 hours away).


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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2025, 11:57:55 AM »
I'm planning a road trip and tried a very simple question with AI, "Where can I stop for lunch driving from Prince George to Fort St. John?" - the suggestions were either in the opposite direction, or in a city totally out of the way. That seems like a fairly simple one to me, surprised it screwed up that badly.

I tried this on Grok3 and got these results:

1. Bear's Paw Cafe (Bear Lake)
Location: Bear Lake, BC (approximately 1 hour from Prince George) 

Description: A cozy, welcoming cafe offering homemade breakfast and lunch options. The menu features comforting, hearty meals perfect for fueling up early in your drive. 

Why stop here?: Ideal if you’re leaving Prince George in the morning and want a relaxed, home-style meal in a small community setting.

2. The Pine Bistro (Chetwynd)
Location: Chetwynd, BC (approximately 3 hours from Prince George) 

Description: A traveler’s favorite, this diner is known for its hearty, home-style cooking and friendly atmosphere. Expect classic comfort food like burgers, sandwiches, and daily specials. 

Why stop here?: Chetwynd is roughly halfway between Prince George and Fort St. John, making it a convenient and popular lunch spot.

3. Dragon Palace Restaurant (Chetwynd)
Location: Chetwynd, BC 

Description: This Chinese restaurant offers a variety of flavorful dishes, such as stir-fries and noodle bowls, providing a tasty alternative to typical diner fare. 

Why stop here?: Adds variety to your lunch options and is perfectly situated in Chetwynd for a midday break.

4. Subway (Chetwynd)
Location: Chetwynd, BC 

Description: A familiar chain offering fresh, customizable sandwiches, salads, and wraps. It’s a great choice for a quick and light meal on the go. 

Why stop here?: Perfect for travelers who want something fast and reliable without spending too much time off the road.

5. Mile 0 Diner (Dawson Creek)
Location: Dawson Creek, BC (approximately 4.5 hours from Prince George) 

Description: Famous for its burgers, milkshakes, and retro diner vibe, this local favorite offers a fun and satisfying dining experience. 

Why stop here?: A great option if you’re planning a later lunch or want a stop closer to Fort St. John (about 1.5 hours away).

That is substantially better then the Google/Gemini results. The only issue is it has is it still thinks driving 40km out of the way into Dawson Creek for lunch is reasonable. But Grok appears to be a lot better.

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« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2025, 03:52:06 PM »
I'm planning a road trip and tried a very simple question with AI, "Where can I stop for lunch driving from Prince George to Fort St. John?" - the suggestions were either in the opposite direction, or in a city totally out of the way. That seems like a fairly simple one to me, surprised it screwed up that badly.

You need to be more specific with your questions as it is only going to give you as specific an answer as you request.   It doesn't know that you aren't willing to drive off route.   

You need to add "that is close to highway 97" or other qualifiers such as "is vegetarian" and "how far from the highway is the restaurant" and "include only highly rated restaurants".     


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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2025, 04:12:59 PM »
I'm planning a road trip and tried a very simple question with AI, "Where can I stop for lunch driving from Prince George to Fort St. John?" - the suggestions were either in the opposite direction, or in a city totally out of the way. That seems like a fairly simple one to me, surprised it screwed up that badly.

You need to be more specific with your questions as it is only going to give you as specific an answer as you request.   It doesn't know that you aren't willing to drive off route.   

You need to add "that is close to highway 97" or other qualifiers such as "is vegetarian" and "how far from the highway is the restaurant" and "include only highly rated restaurants".   

If you have to tell AI not to send you somewhere 40-80 km off route, through city traffic, adding hours to the drive, you might as well not use AI at that point. The stupidest human on planet earth would not suggest that restaurant for lunch.

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« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2025, 05:19:24 PM »
If you have to tell AI not to send you somewhere 40-80 km off route, through city traffic, adding hours to the drive, you might as well not use AI at that point. The stupidest human on planet earth would not suggest that restaurant for lunch.

My wife has us do this all the time on road trips (travel 40+km off route to go to some restaurant).

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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2025, 07:52:50 PM »
If you have to tell AI not to send you somewhere 40-80 km off route, through city traffic, adding hours to the drive, you might as well not use AI at that point. The stupidest human on planet earth would not suggest that restaurant for lunch.

My wife has us do this all the time on road trips (travel 40+km off route to go to some restaurant).

Sure, if it's a destination restaurant for a specific foodie experience. I can't imagine she reroutes your trips 40+KM to go to some random McDonalds.

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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2025, 02:27:53 PM »
I'm planning a road trip and tried a very simple question with AI, "Where can I stop for lunch driving from Prince George to Fort St. John?" - the suggestions were either in the opposite direction, or in a city totally out of the way. That seems like a fairly simple one to me, surprised it screwed up that badly.

You need to be more specific with your questions as it is only going to give you as specific an answer as you request.   It doesn't know that you aren't willing to drive off route.   

You need to add "that is close to highway 97" or other qualifiers such as "is vegetarian" and "how far from the highway is the restaurant" and "include only highly rated restaurants".   

If you have to tell AI not to send you somewhere 40-80 km off route, through city traffic, adding hours to the drive, you might as well not use AI at that point. The stupidest human on planet earth would not suggest that restaurant for lunch.

Like any tool, you have to learn to use it and understand how it works to get the benefit.   It remembers your preferences for future inquiries btw.  It is most definitely superior to a google search once you understand how it works and how to get the answer you are looking for.  It is really user error rather than AI error here.  YMMV

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« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2025, 02:28:07 PM »
>If you have to tell AI not to send you somewhere 40-80 km off route

Like any tool, you have to learn to use it and understand how it works to get the benefit.   It remembers your preferences for future inquiries btw.  It is most definitely superior to a google search once you understand how it works and how to get the answer you are looking for.  It is really user error rather than AI error here.  YMMV

Fixing the AI to not be dumb as rocks is a better option - as the above person showed, Grok3 seems to work fairly well without handholding.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2025, 02:34:44 PM »
Or, possibly, learning how to use the tool properly might be a useful solution. 

No-one is forcing you to learn to use Chatgpt, however, making a pronouncement that it is "dumb as rocks" is... odd.  Objectively it is incorrect.  It is also learning and improving each day.   Soon it will replace and/or augment many of the tasks currently done by people - it already has in many fields.  Ask a computer engineer or lawyer for that matter.

I would suggest if you don't know where to start, to ask Chatgpt for tips on how to make effective inquiries and what is it good to use it for for someone with your particular interests and activities.

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Re: How to personally prepare to adapt to an AI-filld world
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2025, 02:56:00 PM »
Or, possibly, learning how to use the tool properly might be a useful solution. 

No-one is forcing you to learn to use Chatgpt, however, making a pronouncement that it is "dumb as rocks" is... odd.  Objectively it is incorrect.  It is also learning and improving each day.   Soon it will replace and/or augment many of the tasks currently done by people - it already has in many fields.  Ask a computer engineer or lawyer for that matter.

I would suggest if you don't know where to start, to ask Chatgpt for tips on how to make effective inquiries and what is it good to use it for for someone with your particular interests and activities.

What's the advantage of doing that versus using the one that works already?

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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2025, 03:34:35 PM »
I'm not an AI expert in terms of comparing platforms.  I am familiar with ChatGPT, both the free and paid version, and so I can only speak to how to use this platform.  It is up to you to do your own research. 

Looking at the specs, Grok overall seems to be more conversational/humourous/edgy and connected to X.   ChatGPT appears to currently be better at fact-checking, logic/reasoning, math and creative writing.

I suppose the biggest difference is you can't use Grok for free - you have to be an X premium plus member at 16/us a month.  It seems like you may never have tried Grok and your use of Chatgpt is limited to an unrefined search?  Kind of difficult to understand where you are getting your black/white conclusions and judgements from. 

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« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2025, 04:10:30 PM »
I'm not an AI expert in terms of comparing platforms.  I am familiar with ChatGPT, both the free and paid version, and so I can only speak to how to use this platform.  It is up to you to do your own research. 

Looking at the specs, Grok overall seems to be more conversational/humourous/edgy and connected to X.   ChatGPT appears to currently be better at fact-checking, logic/reasoning, math and creative writing.

I suppose the biggest difference is you can't use Grok for free - you have to be an X premium plus member at 16/us a month.  It seems like you may never have tried Grok and your use of Chatgpt is limited to an unrefined search?  Kind of difficult to understand where you are getting your black/white conclusions and judgements from.

I did, in fact, use Grok for free here: https://x.ai/