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Back in 2008 I was 14 years old and in Grade 8 (Year 8 as we call it in Australia). The teacher got us to sit in a circle and think about where we would like to be in 10 years from now. I was 14 in 2008 so I was thinking forward to being 24 in 2018. Each person in the circle stated what they wanted to be when they "grew up". Basically their dream jobs, lifestyle etc...

Everyone answered using multiple sentences but I said one single word: "Retired". As you can imagine, all the other students laughed at me as if I was an idiot. The teacher told them to stop laughing and stated, "no, no, no, That's what he wants and if he puts his heart to it, he may achieve it, just as you all may achieve your goals". Fast-forward 8 years and well, I don't quite think I could retire at 24 but by 30... 100%. I've got a self earned net worth of over 210K and I live very frugally. My friends all have negative networths now except one of them who is earning the same amount I do even though they spent 3 years studying for computer based qualifications. They have saved 3K so far and would be in a huge negative if their parents didn't pay for their course. They also still live at home (While I have bills to pay and morgage repayments for my one bedroom apartment I live in).

Anyway back on topic... 14 was the youngest age I actually spoke of early retirement. Before that I was talking about saving to buy shares with my $5 a week pocket money I started recieving at age 11. My teachers used to always say "Why are you so weird Sam? Can't you just be a normal kid and buy a skateboard or something". On that topic... I never ended up buying shares, I needed to buy a computer for home and a laptop for highschool which kinda wiped out the $1000 I spent 4 years saving at $5 pocket money a week...

Going back even further before I had earned any money at age 8 I was talking about buying investment properties. My whole life revolved around them and I spent my lunchs talking to the teachers on duty in the playground about investment properties rather than playing with my friends.

I've been living the MMM way my whole life as you can see ;)

When did you guys first come up with the idea/desire?
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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2016, 05:49:05 AM »
Probably around 2006-2007, so when I was 21-22. I didn't describe it as 'retired'. I was studying investing and I described it as having a job only managing my own portfolio. Which is really the same thing as being retired.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2016, 06:19:12 AM »
Probably around 28, after working professionally a few years.
Wish I had an MMM then.
But at least now, I can be helped by others.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2016, 06:23:16 AM »
My parents (and my father in particular) were very good about teaching me the basics of investing at a very young age.  I remember seeing "the graph" of exponential market growth when I was in primary school, and learning when I was ~8 how for every $5 I put into life savings (I made $5.15 from a paper-route), my father would need to save about $100 to have the same amount of money in "retirement".  That blew me away.  When I got my first 9-5 job I learned (and understood) that if I did nothing more than contribute to my IRA each year I could be a millionaire while I was still in my 40s.

So, to answer the question "how old was I when I first mentioned ER" - I'm sure I first thought about it when I was 8 or 9, but it was a vague idea that I could retire "earlier" than my grandfather had.  By age 15 this had solidified into a core belief that I could retire before my 50th birthday. Back then that seemed insanely early to me, since my parents weren't planning on retiring until their early 60s.   This concept evolved in my 20s to separate the concepts of "FI" and "ER". Our (recently married) plan now is to reduce our work hours in 3-5 years while concentrating on our health and family and continuing to 'coast' to our FI number.  We've also implemented an AA and started to contemplate what our investments would look like pre and post retirement.
In other words, while I "got" the idea that ER was a possibility at a fairly young age, the concept has continued to shift and evolve throughout my life.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2016, 06:30:39 AM »
I know that I have always said that I was going to retire early from a young age. At that time I didn't have a clue as to how I was going to accomplish this but I knew that I didn't want to work forever.

Fast forward to finding MMM at 25-26 and that is where I began to really put a lot of thought and action into make the goal a reality. My plan is to FIRE by 50 but depending on how the chips fall it could definitely happen sooner than that.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2016, 06:56:44 AM »
In 2011 which was my first full year in a career job and when I started investing for FIRE, unaware of how much sooner it could be done than I originally thought.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2016, 07:19:10 AM »
The "spend way less than I earn to give myself choices" has been engrained in me since I was little. My parents have always lived this way. Early retirement though, probably started to take root in my mind while I was in university around 20 years old. When I figured out that there were so many things that interested me and so many way I could contribute to the well-being of society and this planet... and most of these things didn't come with a big paycheck. I've been working on the plan ever since.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2016, 08:01:06 AM »
Congratz OP!  You'll get there in no time!

Personally, I started thinking about that last year at 27 yo as we were able to save some real money.  We had just buy a rental property (triplex) so we had to pay a 7.2k tax + standard municipal and school taxes (5.8k) + bought a used car cash for 6k and still managed to save quite a bit of money.

Then my friend then introduced me to the Early Retirement Extreme book and through the book I found out MMM and different blogs and that was it....I was hooked and the concept got a lot clearer in my head.

Now, were parents of a 4 month old and still managed to save 52% of our net income YTD and on track to be FI at 35 or earlier.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2016, 08:14:45 AM »
Congrats OP!

I didn't start thinking about it until I was about 34.  I had just finished paying off all my debt and was working on downsizing my home.  I didn't start seeing it as a reality until I was almost 36, after I sold my large condo and moved into a 1 bedroom apartment.   I'm 39 now and working towards my goal.  So far I'm on target to be done by age 45, but we will see, a lot can happen in 6 years.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2016, 08:18:11 AM »
in my late teens i always told my dad i was going to have a million dollars by the time i was 30, so i think i planted the seeds then.

granted i am going to be about 15-20 years late lol. The actual concept and realization of FIRE didn't happen until about 2 years ago. Had I realized all of this back in my late teens when i made that statement, then it is quite possible i would have proved my dad wrong and had that million by now.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2016, 08:25:26 AM »
I was 21 years old. 

The idea of "early" retirement never really crossed my mind.  However, the concept of "earlier" retirement manifested itself when I received my second full-time job offer.  There was a relatively large disparity between the salary for my first and second job offers.  Upon receiving the second one, I whipped out my TI-89 calculator and calculated the expected number of working years for each company. 

Never once did I think about being able to "afford" to spend more money with the higher salary.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2016, 08:57:33 AM »
I didn't call it retirement at the time, but pretty much as soon as I was living alone and started working full time I did some napkin math to see how much I'd need to save to "live off the interest". It was such a large number (I used the 2% returns of my savings account) in comparison to my paltry wage (part time, 10.25/hour I think) that I didn't give it much thought beyond that. I was 18 at the time, working in a hospital kitchen.

I started actually calling it "early retirement" when I was 24 and seriously working towards it. Funny thing was, I wasn't making that much more money at the time (11.50/hr, I think), than when I was 18 and originally dismissed the idea as unrealistic, but I had a more realistic goal and worse job motivating me.


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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2016, 09:25:10 AM »
It was probably about 15-25 years ago, inspired by a commercial.  There was an older gentleman in an office visiting his financial advisor.  Customer was close to 60, advisor was not much more than 23.  Older gentleman said something like "what is the plan".  Kid said "make a lot of money and retire at 45".  Older man stopped for a second, and then said ".... I meant MY PLAN".  They then proceeded to  say that their firm had less fees then this kids firm, so bring your money to us.  Don't remember the firm. Anyone remember the commercial? 

The idea of that smug punk kid hitting a then unheard of retirement age at the cost of the client really resonated with me.  It became sort of a running dream/joke for my wife and I for a long time, even though we were on that very path the entire time and did not know it for years(the retiring early part, not the taking other peoples money part).  The joke number first became an actual target about 5 years ago, and became a reality last year.

I never focused on the phrase "spend less than you earn and save the difference".  That is not a plan to retirement, since the savings rate could be a little as .001% and retirement is mathematically never.  We prefer the phrase "save less than you spend".  Then you start off with a 50% savings rate and go from there.  Didn't always hit the mark, but falling short still makes progress to the goal.


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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2016, 10:20:31 AM »
I didn't finish grad school until I was 29, so we plowed into student loans for a few years. When I was 32, we met with an accountant who told us we were saving too much money and should enjoy life more because after 35 years of working we'd have more than we could ever spend.

That opened our eyes to the possibility of early retirement, so we fired him and started saving even more.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2016, 01:41:40 PM »
I knew I wanted to retire ASAP during my first tax season.

I didn't think it was realistic until I found this site a couple years ago.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2016, 01:52:32 PM »
I knew I wanted to retire ASAP during my first tax season.

I didn't think it was realistic until I found this site a couple years ago.

My boyfriend wanted to retire pretty much the first time he did a full day's work. I'd just discovered MMM around that time. It took precisely zero convincing to get him on board.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2016, 02:09:09 PM »
Last year when I found MMM; age 31.

I wish I had figured this out in my early 20's, as I'd probably be ready to retire about now. As is, I'm hoping for another 7.5 years to go.

It also would've been nice if there was at least a single mention of it in the coursework for my degree in finance. But it's just such a foreign concept to just about everyone that it was never even a consideration.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2016, 04:56:48 PM »
I found MMM at 46, my wife had just turned 59. Three years later the DW is retired four years ahead of schedule. I hope to be done at 58, but 60-62 may be the actual number. Too far away to predict with any accuracy.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2016, 12:41:59 AM »
I'm not really sure. I know I was planning on retiring somewhat early before I found MMM, but it was like 50, then I was seeing people retiring at the "absurd" age of 40 in the Wall Street Journal and ended up finding MMM shortly thereafter. I guess I started thinking seriously about retiring at like 23ish.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2016, 01:21:28 AM »
When I was 24 talking about life goals with my wife to be. Talked about purchasing a house next year and wanting to be able to quit the rat race at 50.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2016, 02:33:07 AM »
I am 43. About 6 years  ago I took on a very large mortgage and moved to an expensive suburb. Shortly after I started having ideas of spending even more on major Renovatioms. I started building spreadsheets to ensure I could pay off the house and Renovatioms before traditional early retirement age of 55. That was my idea of early retirement at that time.

My spreadsheeting awoke me to the fact that I was committing myself to my high stress career for many more years. This did not sit well with me. Then one night I was at a friends house bemoaning to a friend how uninspiring the next 20 years looked

My friend asked a simple question "what opportunities could your career lead to?. My response slipped out of my mouth. "The best opportunity is that I get paid well so could retire really early"

The thought was planted and an idea born.

The next month I went and bought a rental in a LCOL area, with a view to moving their as soon as I could retire. I didn't know about SWR's or sequence of return risk at this time. Nor did I know about MMM or any other FI blogs. It was just me and my spreadsheets and the simple math that reducing housing cost would mean I could retire way earlier.

About 2 years ago I started researching more and came to the FI blogs. Probably ERE first. Plans took a firmer shape.

I can probably FIRE some time next year. I don't know if I will, but certainly knowing that I don't have to work much longer is really negatively impacting my motivation to work and to progress my career.

In some ways, I think the concept of FI is making me less happy than I was when I was just accepting to work to 55. I dream of a life beyond the 9-9 grind, but I am also fearful of what I wil give up.

I am looking forward to see how the next 5 years unfold, but at least I am FI (well once I sell my expensive home, which in fact I don't even live in at the moment), so don't have to stress about job security if nothing else. All I need to do in know what is enough.....

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2016, 04:14:23 AM »
I didn't finish grad school until I was 29, so we plowed into student loans for a few years. When I was 32, we met with an accountant who told us we were saving too much money and should enjoy life more because after 35 years of working we'd have more than we could ever spend.

That opened our eyes to the possibility of early retirement, so we fired him and started saving even more.


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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2016, 04:44:14 AM »
Agree, these are interesting responses.

I found early retirement when we had a 14 month old and I was pregnant in the first trimester for my second baby. I was 34 and DH was 33. Working on YNAB and I think I found MMM (& this whole crazy concept) through YNAB's founder, Jesse Mecham. He had done some kind of podcast or something with MMM (maybe an article?). It was so addictive when I found it. That was Nov 2013, so almost 3 years. It has taken some time, but my husband is more on board with the idea of early retirement and will likely quit his current job in another 6-7 years at age 42. He could do it sooner, but OMY is worth it to him and our budget will be high.

Now that I am a SAHM, I feel like I am already retired and have so much freedom. It's feeling is insane. I just want my husband to get here too. Working makes him exhausted and he has no energy for our family.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2016, 05:11:27 AM »
I wish I would've had that line of thinking at 24 on retirement and also saving and investing.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2016, 06:53:14 AM »
PHASE ONE: Desire to work less (or not at all)

When I was about eleven or twelve, we had our first careers lesson at school. I don't remember any of the content, but I remember this one insistent thought: Work sounds AWFUL. But that set my brain a-thinking...

Why do we work? --> to earn money --> why do we earn money? --> to spend it --> so if you spend less money, you don't need to work as much.

I decided then that I would make sure I spent only half the money of the average person, so then I could work half the amount as the average person. At the time I had no concept of interest or the stock market, so while I was a good little saver I assumed that I would only get out the amount of money that I put in. I figured that if I lived to 100, I'd have to spend 40 years working (age 20-60) then 40 years living (age 60-100). I didn't think that sounded very nice, so I decided that instead of doing all my working at the beginning, I'd spread it out, so I'd work alternate days or weeks. I didn't really think about what I would do when I was too old to work.

Phase One plan: Minimise spending to work only part time.

PHASE TWO: Realisation of the power of compounding and the stock market

When I was about fifteen, I got a book called 'The Teenager's Guide to the Real World' by Marshall Brain. I don't remember anything specific about investing, but something in there spurred me to find out more about how to make my money work for me. I had some fixed rate bonds at the bank and I knew that the interest rates on them weren't as high as they were before. I ended up reading the Motley Fool a lot, which convinced me that if I could put enough capital into investments, I could live off the proceeds. I started calculating how much my future earnings and living expenses might be (helped a lot by the Marshall Brain book) and making pie-in-the-sky calculations about how long it would take me to save up enough money. At the time, I was torn between various different kinds of saving/investing (individual stocks in the stock market, particularly divided investing, fixed rate bonds, even gold!) I'm sure my numbers at the time were crazy and way off base, but I was determined to work as hard as I could in my twenties and then stop working as soon as possible. I also developed an intense desire to buy a house (cash, no mortgage) because I figured that if I owned the place I lived in then investment volatility wouldn't be as risky, and as long as I picked right first time I wouldn't need to worry about losing money buying and selling houses.

Phase Two plan: be a corporate bitch for a decade or two while accumulating and then get the hell out. My imaginings were pretty ERE at the time (although living in a flat/small house, not an RV)

PHASE THREE: Something in between
Then I went to university and did some work experience in various places. And I HATED it as much as my twelve-year-old-self had thought I would. And by this time I had developed a passion for art and was wondering if I could make a career out of it. I did consider giving up the idea of working as little as possible, but I am quite a risk-averse person so not having anything to fall back on worried me. I started Googling "early retirement" a lot. I also met my now-husband and knew he would not be happy with my (admittedly pretty ERE-extreme) plans from phase two. Eventually I stumbled upon Early Retirement Extreme and, although I devoured it, knew it wasn't quite what I wanted. My anti-corporate values were entrenching themselves and I couldn't "sell my soul" selling people shit they didn't need just to get rich off it. So I decided that I wanted to retire early but not REALLY early, and to make sure I wasn't miserable on the way.

Phase Three plan: work as much as I feel like/can cope with as a professional artist (generally a month of full time and a month of part time, though it depends how the contracts come along) which making sure I put away enough money to feel secure that we (my husband and I) will have enough to retire comfortably at our current standard of living around 65 (without accounting for the state pension).

I have given up trying to make serious calculations (although I still love to play around with "what if?" numbers) but if we follow my vague projection I made a few years ago, we could probably retire at 45. This does not, however account for children (either extra expenses or loss of my earnings), so we'll see how that goes. I still get intense urges from time-to-time to revert to Phase Two Plan, but in all honesty I don't think I could cope with it for very long. I may not earn as much as I could, but I generally balance out my life so that I am contented, and I feel that my work is honest and in line with the values that I try to live in my personal life (small footprint, no selling, making the world a better place, etc etc).

Other things that happened along the way:
- I read Tim Ferriss's 'Four Hour Workweek' and tried out the ideas but rejected them.
- My grandmother introduced me to individual stock investing for dividends with some money she gave me. Everything tanked within six months of me buying it, and I did some panic-Googling and discovered index funds. I still have three small investments I made during that time (about four years ago) and am still waiting for them to recover their original value until I sell them.
- I spent way too much money a few times at university. On eating out and clothes and things. But I'd rather have had that shock then, when my rent and meals were prepaid and "way too much" was going £200 over budget for a month. I got "buying things" out of my system, I think. (And I still have some of those things now...)
- I somewhat let go of my obsession with buying a house. My husband will get a house of some kind with his work when he starts next year, so we won't own the roof over our heads for as long as he works. But buying is still very much in my long-term plan.
- I got obsessed with DIY living/self-sufficiency/insourcing (for fun and profit). I no longer really dream of producing everything we eat, use and wear, but I have a long list of things I would love to try out for fun. If I love some of them and they stick, so much the better! But if they don't, I can think of it as a hobby.
- I discovered how much I love the freedom and control of being self-employed. For example, we are having a heatwave right now and I am sitting at home eating ice cream because I can, and tomorrow I have arranged to do a job from 6am to 9am instead of 11am to 2pm in order to avoid the worst of the heat. I could not do this in an office!
- Some of my friends went the "corporate bitch" route. Some of them are doing well but some of them are miserable. While I am somewhat jealous of the money they are making, you only get one life and I don't want to live any of it like that.

Sorry, that turned into a bit of a mega-post! But while I only heard of FIRE/MMM/ERE a few years ago (I'm 25 now), the vague plan was there from the moment I found out about the real world of work at 12. I find it interesting to see how it progressed.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2016, 07:01:07 AM »
I would have to say about the same time that the OP said they mentioned it. Around 14 years old I read Rich Dad Poor Dad. The key take away I got from it was the creation and generation of passive income for wealth. I kind of learned about passive watching a John Travolta movie involving him trying to steal something on a train or something. He offhandly told his retirement plan on using the sale/ransom money to buy bonds or stocks and live off the dividends. That kind of hit me as a way of money to make more money. So those two things when I was young inspired me to early retirement.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2016, 09:41:53 AM »
I was about 22, six months or so after I landing my first full-time job, complete with company car. I was diagnosed with cancer, and one of the many valuable lessons learned was that reaching FI was mission critical. I also learned that the future was only promise, not a guarantee, so I made sure to enjoy life as I went along, in addition to saving for RE. It took longer than I'd hoped, but FIRE finally happened four years ago. So worth the effort!

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2016, 05:03:56 PM »
I was a kid in the 1970's when I saw a Loveboat episode about a couple that was taking their first vacation ever because the wife was really cheap and the husband thought they were poor.  She was doing stuff on the cruise like dunking their tea bags twice so she could save the bag to re-use later.  Anyway it turned out she'd been buying random stocks with their savings for years mainly because of the names of the companies. They just happened to be Xerox, IBM, and other companies that had skyrocketed at the time.  It turns out they were worth millions.

Anyway, I think a light bulb went on in my brain after that. Not that I wanted to live like her, but it drove home the fact that you could make a lot of money by saving and investing!
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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2016, 07:09:20 PM »
My original idea of ER was always early 50's.  Thought that ever since high school.

Now at 30, I went through DR and paid off all my debt (cept mortgage) and found MMM .  I'd say I really thought of FIRE in my mid 30's about a year ago.  Had I found MMM at 22, I'd be about 3 years out.  I still spent less than I earned but was not investing the after tax surplus.  As it sits now Ihave 5-7 years left.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2016, 08:58:26 PM »
I was a kid in the 1970's when I saw a Loveboat episode about a couple that was taking their first vacation ever because the wife was really cheap and the husband thought they were poor.  She was doing stuff on the cruise like dunking their tea bags twice so she could save the bag to re-use later.  Anyway it turned out she'd been buying random stocks with their savings for years mainly because of the names of the companies. They just happened to be Xerox, IBM, and other companies that had skyrocketed at the time.  It turns out they were worth millions.

Anyway, I think a light bulb went off in my brain after that. Not that I wanted to live like her, but it drove him the fact that you could make a lot of money by saving and investing!
I remember that one :)  She used to make him shut off the car going down hills to save on gas (it really wouldn't, would it?).  I also remember when the wife first told him, he was FURIOUS that they lived so frugal, but alas the love boat made everything well again.


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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2016, 10:46:15 PM »
Throughout college, I was on the motley fool forums daily for "retire early" and "live below your means"

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2016, 04:08:26 AM »
Late thirties. I thought only very rich people were able to retire early.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2016, 04:58:04 PM »
Late 20's early 30's. My father retired at 52 and we never lived together so he treated me kinda like I wasnt good enough since I grew up with my mom so I wanted for some reason to beat him and I did. Mind you he retired however alot wealthier in the fiscal sense than I did BUT I would say I am just as happy!!!!! and thats what matters! All in all for the record hes a pretty good guy I just had an awesome step dad who was my father! So shout out to all the good step dads if any out there!

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2016, 02:15:34 AM »
Early twenties. When it started sinking in that I might actually never have to go back to work, and started exploring ways to better manage my money to improve those odds. That wonderful research led me here!

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2016, 10:55:54 AM »
I was about 21 when I found Mr Money Mustache and similar blogs. That was just two years ago, so I guess I've only started, but I'm so happy that I did. The future looks bright.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2016, 11:16:16 AM »
Last year at 51 I started to think about retirement in my 60s and how much I would need.  Googling led me to MMM and other early retirement sites.  First ran into a lot of info and calculators that said I needed 80% of my salary even though I spend much less than that.  What the what? Learned about the 4% rule and index investing.  Signed onto personal capital to track everything.  Was always a good saver and was already index investing mostly by chance for decades in my 401k plans.  Turns out I have more than enough money to retire right now.  I was pretty clueless. That doesn't even include mult pensions and social security.  Will retire this year just deciding whens a good time to give my notice.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2016, 01:05:59 PM »
Discovered the idea at age 40.  I knew when I came across it that I had been searching for it most of my adult life.  I just had not heard of anyone or any group that discussed it or encouraged it.  Probably read more blogs and books over the next month than I had all my life.  Made several easy changes over the next few months and began to work on DW to get on board.  She still needs reminded occasionally but we are on track to walk away in when I turn 48.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2016, 02:27:12 PM »
Roughly 22. I was a few months into my first post-college "adult" job, realized that I didn't want to spend the next 40+ years sitting behind a desk conforming to somebody else's schedule. Had some downtime one afternoon and googled "early retirement".

Down the rabbit hole from there.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2016, 04:07:53 PM »
I must say shelivesthedream, that idea of hearing about work and hating the idea of it while being young and then doing it for real and hating it was the exact same for me. As for it being a "megapost", I'm often guilty of the same whenever I post on most forums and try as hard as possible to make my posts short but I always fail. In the end some may not read but those who do read it to the end like me must have been interested enough and have enjoyed it :)

I'm also enjoying reading everyone else's comments, thanks for sharing!

Thanks :) I just worry about "cluttering up the internet", so I try to think before I post whether I'm actually adding any value to the world or whether I'm just making noise. I know too well the feeling of having a thread keep popping up in your unread replies when people are posting off-topic or rambling excessively.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2016, 12:47:05 PM »
I believe it was a couple years ago when I was 28.

Actually, it started off as a joke I would tell people when the subject of work came up.  ("Well I'm only working until 45 then I'm retiring" [snickering])  I thought only those who inherited lots of wealth could do it.

Then I started thinking about it, researching it and came across this site.  Only recently have I started making changes toward that end (switched to a more efficient car; moved closer to work while paying less for rent; renting out my house).  I just realized today that my net worth has almost doubled in one year (from 40k to almost 80k)

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2016, 04:23:27 PM »
Early 30s. I honestly never even knew it was an option up to that point. Certainly not for me, because I've never been a high earner, and on a single income, I didn't manage my money very well either. Plus, I was simply raised to believe that you work for life until you retire, deservedly after decades of hard work, in your 60s. It wasn't until I began living with my now husband that I started budgeting and looking farther into our futures, because for the first time, financial goals actually seemed achievable. I also had a job for a while that completely burned me out, and I was feeling like I couldn't bear the thought of working full time for 3 more decades.

When my husband got a nice raise after we had been managing our money well for a while, I really saw the results of living below our means and got excited. I began reading all I could about personal finance and came upon early retirement discussions. I had seen people talking about it in the past but I thought they were crazy. This time I was intrigued. After doing the math, I figured out we could actually retire early ourselves with planning. Not before 40, but still early, which is still exciting.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2016, 05:47:27 PM »
Hello

I am on my 3rd try ! Yes life is not always a sweet ride ( believe it or not ) my first wife left me with 3 sons to raise and being from the commie state of MA I got raked. after 10 years of being single I got engaged to a thief ! So here we go again .... I must say after 6 years so far all is well :-) Its hard to recover, however I believe that you should NEVER give up. Im much more guarded than in the past and will not " retire " but will be managing my portfolio in the next 3 - 5 years attending shareholder meetings, investing and loving life. My orig goal was to be retired at 45 my first wife filed for divorce when I turned 44 SURPRISE !
Never loose sight of your goals and dont let set backs like market swings or even life set backs get you in a rut set  goal work for it :-)

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2016, 09:57:07 PM »
I was a kid in the 1970's when I saw a Loveboat episode about a couple that was taking their first vacation ever because the wife was really cheap and the husband thought they were poor.  She was doing stuff on the cruise like dunking their tea bags twice so she could save the bag to re-use later.  Anyway it turned out she'd been buying random stocks with their savings for years mainly because of the names of the companies. They just happened to be Xerox, IBM, and other companies that had skyrocketed at the time.  It turns out they were worth millions.

Anyway, I think a light bulb went off in my brain after that. Not that I wanted to live like her, but it drove him the fact that you could make a lot of money by saving and investing!

THIS!!! She had him taking his foot off the gas pedal to coast downhill and would calculate how much money it saved and then would take that and invest it. The husband was *pissed*. I thought it was brilliant! I was maybe 7-8 years old?

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2016, 10:00:07 PM »
Cool question, Jupiter. You're a real inspiration! I'm curious which country you live in so I get get a sense of the cost of living.

Me, I've been talking about FIRE for about four years. Before that, I was talking about CRUSHING OUR DEBT. Woot!

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2016, 11:27:30 PM »
When I was in my twenties, I was in school and residency training, and didn't think much about retirement.

In my early thirties, I realized I could retire very comfortably in my mid-to-late 50s.

After I discovered MMM and the FIRE concept in my late thirties, I realized I could actually be comortably retired by 45. Now that I have a family, and a someties frustrating and stressful job, early retirement makes perfect sense to me. So that's the tentative plan.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2016, 11:54:33 PM »
I'm rather surprised that so few people here thought about early retirement before their twenties.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2016, 02:08:51 AM »
Interesting question!

When I reached the age of 12, I wanted to be rich (I didn't see working in the picture). I looked up to Richie Rich, the game Monopoly and a rich guy my parents knew so I started to ask some questions. So they teached me the SWR. just kidding.
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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2016, 03:34:25 AM »
I'm rather surprised that so few people here thought about early retirement before their twenties.

Really? I thought and still think it's absurd to think about retirement before you ever worked full time (which for most people will be in their early twenties). My reasoning is as follows: You give your life purpose by choosing how to spend your limited time on this planet. Especially before the twenties all thoughts would go into how to make a living by doing the things you enjoy. I think there has to be a lot of cynical outlook on life if you already think that any activity that exchanges your time for money is mindless and boring and should be avoided.

The one big realization that sticks out to me from my teen-years is that everything can be really interesting if you spend enough time on it, and there's lots of things people will pay you money to do. So for most of my time the question has always been how to always have the most options and to change what I do for work when I get bored of it. The only reason why my options reduced in the past years is simply because I keep getting payed more and more for my experience/knowledge. At this point that's the only thing that keeps me from starting over with something else. And "retirement" is only a goal, becausewhen I do start something new from this point forward, I want to be less dependent on how and how much of it I do.

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2016, 04:43:43 AM »
we didn't think about it until our 50's .

how we raised the money to retire was not really in a time line that made early retirement even a thought  while raising a family . there was always to much month at the end of the money .

it wasn't until our 50's we hit a million dollars but from that point on bigger investments and bigger deals let us triple it in only 13 years . so in our case things didn't really multiply enough to have early retirement even on the drawing board until much later in life .

i think i was 59 when it first became a reality that we could do it at any point .  living in nyc has a lot of financial pressure but after trying part time life in cheapsville and being this is where our kids and grandkids are , we are not relocating .

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Re: How old were you when you first mentioned early retirement?
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2016, 10:40:40 AM »
Cool question, Jupiter. You're a real inspiration! I'm curious which country you live in so I get get a sense of the cost of living.

Me, I've been talking about FIRE for about four years. Before that, I was talking about CRUSHING OUR DEBT. Woot!

Australia, Sydney... Not the place that's for me! I'm moving to Tasmania though because it's much cheaper, relaxed and "fresher" (for lack of a better word) there.

Just re-read your post, I see you mentioned being an Aussie already. Sorry I missed it! Thanks for responding anyways :)