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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2014, 10:50:21 AM »
I live in a 550 sq. ft. studio with my significant other, large dog, and cat. There is an extreme-waste-of-space hallway from the front door to the main living area, probably about 100 sq. ft. I could easily be rid of and not notice.

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« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2014, 10:54:13 AM »
main house is about 1165 sq, 3 br 2 bath. Husband's separate man cave / garage /home office is 525.  I'm not crazy about the room arrangement, I'd like the bathrooms and 1 of the bedrooms bigger, and one of the bedrooms smaller, and a different shaped laundry area, and the entrance separate from the LR with closet space added,  but I think we're about right on total sq for two people.

ETA: we both do our work from home, which adds personal / private space needs.  The 3rd bedroom (about 120 sq) is somewhat wasted but extremely useful for storage and when we have guests.  There is also wasted space in the kitchen, about 50 sq,  but the roominess adds peace, would feel extremely cluttered and annoying without it.
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« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2014, 11:19:51 AM »
Family of four here, 3,400 square foot house with pool on 1 acre. Way too much even though I work from home.

Last summer we bought a 1,350 square foot house in another state. Second home/seasonal rental property/future retirement home. No garage, but a couple of small handy 10 x 15 foot unheated storage/utility rooms. (It's a stilt beach house). Still a four bedroom, no wasted space, good-sized kitchen in the middle of the house. Screen porch, deck. Great outdoor living space. Two outdoor shower stalls. All on a 1/5 acre lot with little to be maintained (sea grass, sand, gravel, etc.)

Toward the end of spending three weeks there fixing it up last summer, I had an odd thought: If a neighbor from our primary residence called and said it had burned to the ground, I wouldn't have been that upset. We had brought the paddleboards, plenty of clothes and one car. All photos and important documents were stored/backed up off site and/or in the cloud. We're well insured.

I dreaded coming home to the high-maintenance time/money draining clown house.

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« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2014, 11:46:45 AM »
This is OP.  I have considered renting out our 900 sq ft nicely finished basement.  I would need to install a kitchen for about 3k.  Not sure it is worth it?
It seems like that would pay back pretty quickly, even at $500/month?

Our place is just under 3,000 sf, for two adults, and is too big.  We were actually looking for something closer to 2,000 SF, but we found this place cheap and it was the right location and lot size.  The basement is a finished walk-out, around 700 SF, with a 3/4 bath.  It has a wet bar currently, so it would be easy to change to a kitchenette.  It's nice to have the option in case an aging parent ever needs to come live with us.  In the meantime, the basement doesn't get used much, though I do have a home gym down there, and it's handy to have extra space for things like starting vast quantities of veggie seedlings in the spring.  DH's junk room, so I don't have to get pissed about the giant guitar amp he's been lugging around for the past 20 years without using, and one room is a guest room, which doesn't get used much. 

Out of the remaining 2,200 or so SF, I use one bedroom as my sewing/hobby/dressing room, though it's more space than I need for that purpose.  The other room is our office, which is also more square footage than needed.  The master is ALSO bigger than needed.  On the main floor, we don't really use the great room or dining room, so that's probably 500 SF more or less unneeded.  The laundry room is also huge, and although we use it, it could be a smaller room and serve the same purposes.  Overall, I think something around 1,800 SF would be just perfect for us, and allow room for a home office, home gym, and all of our hobby crap.  Old house was 1,500, which would have been fine with a better layout/roomier closets.  There was actually a lot of unused space in the living room because of the funky layout.

I do love our 2 car garage though.  Handy storage for things like shovels and horse feed, and we actually store our cars in there, which is fantastic on icy mornings when the windshield doesn't need to be scraped.

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« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2014, 11:56:43 AM »
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« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2014, 01:23:20 PM »
We have a 1500 sq ft condo with 3 bedrooms. We don't use 2 of them except for storing things in their closets and for guests, so total space we use regularly is about 1000 sqft (living area, kitchen, bedroom, bathroom). The place we'd like to live is in a semi-rural area where all the well-constructed houses are huge and the small ones look like they'll fall apart with a heavy rain. Probably will make our own energy efficient house with a huge porch.

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« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2014, 07:00:29 PM »

A trend around here is the advent of the two bedroom two bath house. No garage. Green build What do you think about that?

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I agree! We have a 35 x 40 shop that we spend most of our time in lol. Wife teaches painting classes and works on crafty projects that she sells for extra $$$ I use it for all sorts of diy  projects, brewing beer, and working out. Our house however has some pretty bad layout issues, master bed bath and closet are stupid HUGE, we have 3 "living spaces", and could be fine with 2 baths instead of 3.5 in the house +1 in the shop. Upstairs has two unused bed rooms but we are working on that now lol.

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« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2014, 09:05:45 PM »

A trend around here is the advent of the two bedroom two bath house. No garage. Green build What do you think about that?

We live in something sort of like this. 1500 square feet, 2 bedrooms both upstairs and 2 bath 1 upstairs 1 main floor and no garage. It is also very "green" but the low electricity bills are nice and I love the on demand hot water. I miss the easy storage of the garage, but am fine with parking the car in our uncovered car port. Hail/bad weather in general is very rare in Seattle and since we still have one parking spot off the street that seems fine.

Overall 1500 seems about perfect. I would be fine with another 500 or so but we don't really need it and I wouldn't want to pay more for the space or move to a different location.

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« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2014, 10:42:09 AM »
This is OP.  I have considered renting out our 900 sq ft nicely finished basement.  I would need to install a kitchen for about 3k.  Not sure it is worth it?


It's almost guaranteed this will make the money back in 2-8 months depending on the rental rates in the area. North of Toronto you might get $1500/month for that, in Welland  it may be $450 a month. What other factors would go into making it "worth it" for you?

In our current house we have 1300 square feet of finished space, including the attic rented to a tenant. The main floor space is all completely used, as are the 2 other bedrooms (usually a second tenant is in the spare bedroom).

Right now we're in the process of finishing our basement because we're finding it difficult to share the small main floor with so many people (constantly running TV in the background, noise, presence, etc.) But that will mean another rentable/usable bedroom downstairs in addition to a small living space and extra bathroom. Worth it for us.


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« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2014, 11:03:56 AM »
I guess I'm one of the few here that desperately wishes for more space!  We live in a 1200 square foot split level.   We have 3 bedrooms, 1.5 baths.  The bedrooms, living room, kitchen, and one full bath are above ground.  The family room and half bath are below ground.  We have a one car garage, but it is too small to fit a car.

I wish, wish, wish we had a second full bath - for 2.5.  We have three tweens, and it would be so nice to have another bathroom.  I'd love another bedroom (not so the kids could each have their own) - but so I would have a place to prep when we travel (lay out suitcases and clothes) or wrap presents and hide them.  Some place to store things like wrapping paper and suitcases. 

We downsized from 1900 square feet when we bought this house (and it is very close to everything and completely walkable/bikeable/excellent schools) - which is why we're here - but I'd LOVE to park inside truthfully.

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« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2014, 11:10:04 AM »
We live in 1299 s.f. 3 BR, 1.5 BA. I would kill for that half to be a full bath. Two adults + one teenager sharing a bathroom is... getting more difficult.

We planned out our space pretty well, if I do say so myself. We moved from 4200 s.f., including a fully finished basement (with a wet bar, a bedroom area and unfinished area for storage). Now we have an unfinished basement where we store Costco dry goods and Christmas decorations. We use one bedroom as a study. It's 11 x 9. I work from home. Our daughter has her own bedroom. We have a kitchen, a living room, and a dining room -- all of which get daily use. The master bedroom is wide enough to accommodate a TV-viewing area that we use at night. If I could get broadband internet and had one more bathtub, it would be the ideal house!

I'd like a 2 BR + den eventually. It would be nice to have a guest room, even if it did double duty as a study.

The beauty of downsizing like we did (we sold 2/3 of our stuff when we moved and only moved what would fit in the new place) is that changed forever the way I think about housing. Now I would never in a million years choose the kinds of houses I lived in before.

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« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2014, 11:29:40 AM »
We have a 976 sq foot 2 bed 1.5 bath apartment, and we are jam crammed.  I'd looooove an 1100 sq foot house with kitchen storage space, and an actual pantry. 

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« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2014, 12:04:07 PM »
I raised my 3 boys in a 1600 sq ft house that was big enough except it only had 1 bath & boy did I ever dream of a 2nd that I never got:))   It really makes a difference if you have kids or not.  WE now have 2 full baths without kids & I love it for when guests visit.

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« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2014, 02:52:50 PM »
We have 416 sqft.

At least half of it is unused/inefficient/wasted.

We used to live in smaller, then we upgraded when we moved to Vegas.  That was sorta silly.  But at least now we know what size works for us.
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« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2014, 04:01:41 PM »
We've got 1200ish sq ft.  My office is 2x the size it needs to be.  Her office is about 25% larger than she needs.  The family room is 2x what we need.  The living room could vanish and we wouldn't even notice.  The dining room is rarely used and we wouldn't miss it much...  So, we could probably do 600-800 sq ft without any major issues other than having to get rid of furniture.

If I could trade it for more garage space, I'd do it in a heartbeat.  I currently outsource (messy) project work that I'm capable of doing myself due to lack of place to do it in.  Our local weather is not amenable to reliably doing work outdoors.  However, after I retire I'll have more time flexibility that might permit me to do work outdoors instead of getting more workspace...

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« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2014, 04:12:39 PM »
1400sq ft place, and I dont use the extra master bedroom which is about 400sq ft.

I have rented it out a couple of times to friends, but not renting it to a stranger. A friend might rent it out in april, but otherwise it will just sit w/ the door closed. It was a home office at one point, but I sold all of the furniture to prepare for a relocation that never happened.

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« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2014, 04:49:52 PM »
Our house is about 2500 sf, and we use about 1500 sf of it on a daily basis:  Our typical 1960-70s ranch is large, but its space is not laid out well.  For example, we have oversized bathrooms, but undersized closets.  We have a 25x25 office, which isn't condusive to furniture placement, and half that space would be perfect.  Our bedrooms are "just right", and our kitchen looks large -- until you realize that it's laid out so poorly. 

We're planning to build a house for our retirement within the next couple years, and we plan to build: 

- 12x15 living room open to the kitchen /dining /covered back porch
- 9x13 L + island kitchen with extra-large pantry (storing things in a walk-in pantry is better than storing them in expensive cabinetry)
- Small eating area indoors -- maybe a booth? 
- 8x10 office w/ build-in shelves on one side, built-in desk on the other, and a twin-bed window seat on the remaining wall.  This small room will serve as an "away room" so one of us can read or work in quiet. 
- Real laundry room w/ space for a folding area
- Modest master bedroom downstairs
- Moderately large master bath with oversized walk-in shower appropriate for handicapped access
- Upstairs 2 small bedrooms and 1 bath
- Outdoors, a large covered back porch /grilling area, which will serve as our primary entertainment area in our warm climate

This whole thing will be between 1600-1800 sf. 

I read a home-building board, and I am amazed at people planning to build 4000-6000 sf houses.  The rationalizations are ridiculous:  My parents may move in with us one day, and they'll need the second master suite with oversized bath and dual walk-in closets.  We need the living room AND den AND library for entertaining.  I need a 3-car garage for resale in my neighborhood!  We need a kid's playroom upstairs so we don't have to watch their TV shows /listen to them play video games, and we want a separate rec room in the basement for adults!
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« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2014, 07:07:56 PM »
For me it's not just about the square footage, but about the use of space. The townhouse we rent now is about 2400 sqf so it's plenty big, but it's has a very awkward layout resulting in a lot of wasted unused space, while other areas feel overly cramped. If it were just the 2 of us with the dog, we could do just fine in a small 2 br apartment (the separate office is a must, I work from home most of the time). But we have 2 small children and they do need space to run around. They are not of the age when I can just let them ride their bikes or run around outside by themselves. My mom stays with us a lot - so we need an extra room for her. Kids share the bedroom. Good sized kitchen is a must, since we cook all our meals at home. So I guess the answer depends on your lifestyle and needs and family composition. For us - the size we have now would be fine if the layout was different. But we are moving to a different state within days so it doesn't matter anymore.

We did have an issue trying to find a place to rent at our new location. It seems like all the houses we looked at where either waaaay too big or normal size with bunch of small useless rooms  (like a formal sitting room on top of living room and a formal dining room - we would prefer to have a dining area or an eat-in kitchen) or huge basements with bars and extra rooms that we would never use. We ended up renting a house that's way to big for us, but the layout works great.

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« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2014, 07:35:23 PM »
Currently we have 1100 sq ft, 2 bed 1 bath, housing 2 adults and 2 toddlers.

I think we could easily shave off a good 400 sq ft if it were a well designed house.

Our current house is designed well to stay cool in the summer and warm in the winter, but very inefficient flow and storage. We're working on improving the storage some, but flow can't be helped. It is supposedly over a 100 yrs old (originally a one room orchard shack) and there is evidence that it has been added on to 2-3 separate times, which may explain flow issues.

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« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2014, 08:59:29 PM »
1400 sf(ish) for our house.  This includes what are now 4 bedrooms, though one of them will be converted into the kids play/videogame/fart with friends room within the next year or two.  We/I also have a 300sf unheated workshop in the backyard, with a 90sf storage shed behind it for the good lumber and a 100sf shelter behind that for the treated scraps and other random bits (i.e. PVC pipe etc). 

So we have a long hallway on the first floor that is basically just a design failure and space to heat with no function, about 40 sf.  A second bathroom that gets used for middle of the night peeing and occasional baths, about 30sf.  A sauna that has never worked since we bought the place, and is where shoes and old mattresses get forgotten (12sf).  We could trim a few feet out here and there and maybe reduce the house by 200sf, but it would be awkward because of the design.

All that said, I could put that space to better use, and will at some point.  In fact, I have considered enclosing but not heating a room outside the back door as a boot room and bike/scooter etc. storage space.


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« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2014, 05:15:26 PM »
Not sure how big our house is.  I think around 1800SF.  A terrible design.  We actively live in about half that (or less).  2 adults, 2 teens-one off to college soon.  The bedrooms are tiny, and cold(above the garage-stupid design)  Then a den/pantry/treadmill room.  The basement is never used.  However, we had rented it out to family members going to college, but it is not a legal accessory apartment, so we really can't do that again.  Discussed with DH a 10 year plan to move to something smaller, more energy efficient, better layout.  Our kids will be well into adulthood then.   

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« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2014, 06:02:01 PM »
1900 sf, 4-floor townhouse. 
I could live without 1.5 floors (about 800 sf), but of course can't split it out for a renter conveniently (maybe someday, with some mind adjustment).  It has dual-zone heating, but it can't even be split up by heat-zone.  The space I live in is half in one zone and half in the other zone. 
I moved from a 750 sf condo, which was fine for just me and would be fine for me in retirement, but I really wanted a separate office because I cannot stand living with unfinished business surrounding me.  I have to have a place to shut the door when I'm not working.  I do like having guest rooms, but they're not really used enough to justify them. 

 

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« Reply #72 on: December 28, 2014, 06:17:22 PM »
Probably 400 sqft goes unused. But I love my house, yard, and neighborhood. I have no issue with having totally empty rooms.

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« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2014, 07:51:33 PM »
We have 1960 sq ft open concept townhouse with almost 700 sqft of unfinished basement. It's 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath. We use almost all beside 1 bedroom till now. Early next year we are expecting second child and will have one of our parents full year, so the whole house will be fully used.
Also planning finishing the basement to make it music room, social event room, with another full bath. My hubby record music and have plans to start another source of income in the basement so hopefully it will pay for itself soon.
Though we are keeping our ears to the ground to find a smaller around 1200 sqft detached house by next 2 years once parents leave after next year.

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« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2014, 07:32:25 AM »
I was inspired by this thread to find out what the square footage of my house actually is (UK houses were not traditionally sold on square footage, and I've never added it up before).  I used to have 730 square feet, of which the 1920's part was perfectly planned and the 1970s addition was appalling. I've remodelled the 1970s addition into a great entrance (country, beach, dog = essential), downstairs WC and wet room, and a study/library with sea views converted from the garage for an extra 167 sq ft.  For one person and a dog it's just about perfect.  A little more editing of my possessions in the new year and I'll be sorted, with a perfectly planned and fully used 897 sq ft.

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« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2014, 08:27:33 AM »
We have 1440 sqft, and we don't use (as in sealed off, not heated) 2 of our 3 bedrooms amounting to about 300 sqft, and our formal dining room really just acts like a fat hallway since we have an island in the kitchen where we eat.  So there's another ~250 sqft. We would prefer a smaller house (800-900 sqft) with a garage, but small homes are hard to find in this area.

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« Reply #76 on: December 29, 2014, 08:41:22 AM »
We have 416 sqft.

At least half of it is unused/inefficient/wasted.

We used to live in smaller, then we upgraded when we moved to Vegas.  That was sorta silly.  But at least now we know what size works for us.

Is that 416 a misprint?  And you could do well in 200 sq ft?   That is pretty awesome if so. 

We did 3 months in a motorhome with 3.5 of us a few years back.  It was o.k..  I'm guessing it was around 200 usable space.  We were amazed when we moved out how much stuff we had managed to squirrel away into all the storage nooks and crannies.   

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« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2014, 09:35:35 AM »
We use it all, and could use about 400 SF more. We're 2 adults in 1100 SF, 2BR/1.5 bath, and it's kind of cramped. We have a one car garage used for storage, our car lives outside.  It would be nice to have a 1.5 car garage, which would be enough room for the car/mower/bikes/skis/gardening supplies. Basement is unfinished, about 700 SF, that includes the half bath and laundry. We do a lot of woodworking projects down there, we have a lot of tools. If we had a bigger garage or work area, it would feel a lot less cluttered.

One extra bedroom would be nice, too. We have guests fairly often, and right now the guest room and computer room are the same, and it's quite a small room.

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« Reply #78 on: December 29, 2014, 09:45:29 AM »
A lot more than I'm willing to admit here and now. This will be remedied next year.

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« Reply #79 on: December 29, 2014, 10:08:12 AM »
We use all 400 square feet now. A few months ago we could have shaved about 100 square feet off and still been okay depending on layout, but I started ballet since then and now need room to kick and leap.

Pretty cool, Zikoris!

We have about 2500 and use about 1500.  Looking to downsize.
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« Reply #80 on: December 29, 2014, 10:19:03 AM »
We use all 400 square feet now. A few months ago we could have shaved about 100 square feet off and still been okay depending on layout, but I started ballet since then and now need room to kick and leap.

Pretty cool, Zikoris!

We have about 2500 and use about 1500.  Looking to downsize.

+1 --- we're guessing you aren't collecting lots of stuff either?  Makes for a very clean and tidy lifestyle I'm guessing?

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« Reply #81 on: December 29, 2014, 10:31:26 AM »
we have the typical mini-mc mansion 4100sq which includes finished basement (3200 w/0o We discuss this often and we have 4 kids so when the 2 oldest are gone in the next couple of years we want do down size not only because we don't need the square footage but taxes, maintenance etc. Feels like we use the whole house now but basement is pretty much kids space and we could get away with much less. Problem is our market is not moving like other areas and to downsize now by the time you add up all the costs etc. doesn't seem to add up.  So we could easily when 2 move out get into 1600 squ feet with some space in basement finished off for office and maybe guest room.  But I would still want a garage.

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« Reply #82 on: December 29, 2014, 10:36:20 AM »
We have 416 sqft.

At least half of it is unused/inefficient/wasted.

We used to live in smaller, then we upgraded when we moved to Vegas.  That was sorta silly.  But at least now we know what size works for us.

Is that 416 a misprint?  And you could do well in 200 sq ft?   That is pretty awesome if so. 

We did 3 months in a motorhome with 3.5 of us a few years back.  It was o.k..  I'm guessing it was around 200 usable space.  We were amazed when we moved out how much stuff we had managed to squirrel away into all the storage nooks and crannies.

Yeah, our condo is 416 sqft, and we have a bunch of it just wasted.   One of the biggest things we're looking forward to when we FIRE is getting rid of a bunch of crap and downsizing.
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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #83 on: December 29, 2014, 11:06:14 AM »
We have 416 sqft.

At least half of it is unused/inefficient/wasted.

We used to live in smaller, then we upgraded when we moved to Vegas.  That was sorta silly.  But at least now we know what size works for us.



Is that 416 a misprint?  And you could do well in 200 sq ft?   That is pretty awesome if so. 

We did 3 months in a motorhome with 3.5 of us a few years back.  It was o.k..  I'm guessing it was around 200 usable space.  We were amazed when we moved out how much stuff we had managed to squirrel away into all the storage nooks and crannies.

Yeah, our condo is 416 sqft, and we have a bunch of it just wasted.   One of the biggest things we're looking forward to when we FIRE is getting rid of a bunch of crap and downsizing.

Only a badass looks forward to downsizing from 416!   

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #84 on: December 29, 2014, 11:27:21 AM »
We will be downsizing from around 3000 sqft to 1700 in a couple of weeks. Our current 3000 sqft are split in three floors, and half the basement (~500sqft) is rented out. That is a nice taxfree supplemental income we are going to miss in the new house. When you subtract half the basement, and the rooms in the attic we don't use, you get very close to the size of the new house. Of course, when you have too much space, you fill it up with stuff. We have donated, sold and tossed about 70 % of everything we own.

The currect house has 7 bedrooms, 2.5 bathrooms, 2 kitchens, 2 living rooms, hallways and storage areas. The new house has 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1 living room and a den in the basement. We would like to extend a small part of the basement, so we can get a separate entrance. I think it would be suitable to rent out when the kids have moved out, DH wants to keep the extra space for a music room.

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #85 on: December 29, 2014, 11:39:05 AM »
The Mrs. and I lived in an 800 sq ft. apartment. Which was fine. Hated the kitchen though. Couldn't have more than 1 person in there at a time. Before we came upon the Mustache community, we dreamed of a home to "grow" into and have kids. Still want kids, but realize now that the home we bought is too much. It's close to 2200 sq. ft (that includes the finished basement). It has a storage shed, deck and 2 car detached garage. We use the garage for our cars/lawn mower/tools, etc. the shed is unused and we want to get rid of it.

Ideally, 1600 sq. ft, 2/3 bedrooms, 1.5/2 bathrooms would be perfect for us and kids. But looking in our area, its tough find any that aren't a total trash heap.

We love our neighborhood/location so I think we're fine with the house long term, but we're always looking!

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #86 on: December 29, 2014, 12:40:45 PM »
1450 sq feet, 3 BR 1.5 baths for 2 adults. The layout is poor, and some of the space is not very usable. However, it's plenty of space. We are fortunate in having a huge garage for workshop and bikes, and a partial basement (rare around here).

We have lived in 660 sq feet with no garage (not enough) and 800 feet with a tiny garage (not enough for the workshop). We could definitely manage with 800 again if we had a big garage. However, I don't at all mind having more space than I need! But we definitely don't need more.

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #87 on: December 29, 2014, 01:04:27 PM »
Zero.

LOL, same here. I have 300 sq/ft, but it's not enough. I'm currently using the bathtub as storage area (I'm an author so I have boxes of my books for when I do signings, but have no where else to put them!), so I have to rearrange the house every time I want to take a shower :(

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #88 on: December 29, 2014, 02:00:12 PM »
We have a 3br/3ba, 2300 sqft home and are empty nesters. It was a pretty big downsize from our previous 5br/4ba, 3800sf home.

When it's just the 2 of us we still use most of the rooms as we both work from home (except maybe the DR). For holidays when all 3 kids are home then it feels full which is why I doubt the DW would consider anything smaller.

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #89 on: December 29, 2014, 02:06:15 PM »
My house in Germany was over 200 square meters or roughly 2150 square feet.  I'd say pre-divorce we used all of it..although the basement rarely. After the empty nest and divorce I used 4 of the 18 rooms.  Now I'm in a 1300 square foot apartment and only the spare bedroom and half bath are unused.

Decluttering that place in Europe was fun...and that was after giving the ex 12,000 lbs of furniture shipment. My own shipment was 4400 lbs.

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #90 on: December 30, 2014, 07:41:03 AM »
Not much. 1825 sq ft, three bedrooms.  Two tenants in one bedroom, one in the other bedroom, me in the other. The only "unused" areas are the entry room, which collects stuff and is a staging area for trips (climbing gear, outdoors, gear, etc) and the last 10-15ft in the back of the family room, which isn't really unused because there's bookshelves and a couch and furniture back there (it's just not often actively used by people).  The garage is full (2 cars and tools).

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #91 on: December 30, 2014, 12:28:54 PM »
My house is small- like maybe 1200 finished square feet. I live here with my daughter, one 30 lb dog and one cat.  I think we still have unused space.  The house is a one and a half story, the upstairs is overflow storage (because we don't have alot of closet space) as well as leisure space.  I have set up a meditation/reading/music/painting room upstairs.
Our eat-in kitchen is small but I like it.  Bathroom is tiny and bedroom closets are tiny but I like it here.  I have an attached garage, reasonable yard size and am within walking distance of grocery, library, parks. 
My dream has been to live in the country, but I'm kind of liking it here.
The only tough thing is trying to entertain with the small kitchen and one bath.  We just don't have more than one person at a time over very often.  I kind of like that too.
The lack of storage naturally ensures I keep wardrobes and everything else downsized to where it should be.  When I'm feeling sorry for myself, I look at pictures of cute tiny houses on the internet, and then I feel like I am blessed with tons of space.
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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #92 on: December 30, 2014, 12:44:10 PM »
I just measured--I live in a 17 by 19 foot space, with a loft.  All of it is used, and my belongings are spilling out on to my porch.  I need to some serious decluttering. Sigh.

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« Reply #93 on: December 30, 2014, 12:49:26 PM »
The main floor of my house is about 1200 sq feet with 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. We use all the space. I just had the dining room and (previously highly dysfunctional) kitchen redone and we pretty much live on the main floor now.  There is not much storage and the rooms are small. I don't want or need more space, really.

The basement is finished, and it maybe another .. 900 (?maybe less) sq feet. Of that the laundry/utility room is heavily used. The basement guest room and bathroom are very rarely used. There is hallway, family room, and a study nook (not used), and the garage (which is below the dining room). I guess the garage and utility room compise maybe 300-400 sq feet. The rest is wasted space - so 500ish sq feet not really in use. I am toying with the idea of renting out the guest room and the kitchenette that are in the basement. (Hestitate becuase I really don't want a tenant in my house - ....)

The trend in my neighborhood has been to take the existing original houses that are all about 1200-1600 sq feet in size and bump out and back and up and end up with a 3500-4000 sq foot house. Not my kind of thing at all. I love my "little" house.

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #94 on: December 30, 2014, 01:06:54 PM »
1,600 seems to be a good size for a family of 3-4, IMHO.  Design/layout is obviously key, and with a well-designed house you could definitely get that down to 1,400, comfortably.  We rent a 1,600 sf house. We are two adults and one toddler, and it's really more space than we need.  There is an entire guest bedroom that only gets used when guests visit, and a large front room with a futon that isn't really necessary (unless even more guests visit at the same time and we need the extra futon). 

MsPeacock, as in your neighborood, ours is also full of older houses on small plots of land, and everyone likes to expand their house up and back.  It's an epidemic.  At no time during the year are there less than two houses being expanded on the block.  Everyone adds huge bedroom suites, extra large bathrooms, etc.  But when you drive by all the houses at night, there are rarely any lights on upstairs.  People spend most of their (awake) time in the downstairs living areas. 

My ideal home would have a well designed open living space, with enough room for our family, but not so much that we will keep filling it up with unnecessary furniture.  Some storage space (basement, garage, shed, attic, whatever) is obviously useful, but again not so much that we are never encouraged to purge.  In general I think bedroom and bathroom sizes in America are way overblown.  A bedroom only needs to contain a bed and a couple of dressers; for a child's room add a desk and a few other things.
 

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« Reply #95 on: December 30, 2014, 02:07:34 PM »


MsPeacock, as in your neighborood, ours is also full of older houses on small plots of land, and everyone likes to expand their house up and back.  It's an epidemic.  At no time during the year are there less than two houses being expanded on the block.  Everyone adds huge bedroom suites, extra large bathrooms, etc.  But when you drive by all the houses at night, there are rarely any lights on upstairs.  People spend most of their (awake) time in the downstairs living areas. 

My ideal home would have a well designed open living space, with enough room for our family, but not so much that we will keep filling it up with unnecessary furniture.  Some storage space (basement, garage, shed, attic, whatever) is obviously useful, but again not so much that we are never encouraged to purge.  In general I think bedroom and bathroom sizes in America are way overblown.  A bedroom only needs to contain a bed and a couple of dressers; for a child's room add a desk and a few other things.

This is what I did w/ the remodel - made the kitchen which had been truly horrible - open to the dining room. The house isn't any bigger but the space is so much better and user friendly. The storage situation in the house is challenging - but it does force me to pare down.

The "big" redone houses all have 5 bedroooms (for 4 people, generally) and gigantic two-story foyers and two-car garages (filled with junk instead of as a place to park a car), and echoing "open" living rooms to the second story bedrooms (noisy) and "sitting areas" in the bedrooms and other useless spaces. This is a really high COL area and prices being what they are the tear-downs in the neighborhood are selling for almost 500k and the smaller redone houses 700-800k+ - so I guess people feel justified if they have some equity in the house on blowing it on a huge addition. To me more space = more to clean, more taxes to pay, more furnishings, more space to heat and cool, etc. etc. Yuck.

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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #96 on: December 30, 2014, 02:29:49 PM »
Family of 5 (3 kids between 2 and 9).  We have a 4 BR 3 bath house that's 1800 sf.  I could ditch the second living room (250 sf) and a bedroom and get by just fine.  Also take the foyer since it's really underutilized space.  And maybe a bathroom.  That's probably 400-425 sf. 

Eventually, all 3 kids won't want to sleep in one room, so our house will probably be the right size in a few years as the oldest enter the teen years and want more space and privacy.  The smallest houses in the neighborhood are in the 1200-1300 sf range and would probably be perfect (we could make do).  But they aren't much cheaper to purchase.  We bought the current house because it was dirt cheap at auction.  We do pay higher long term costs for insurance, maintenance, and taxes. 


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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #97 on: December 30, 2014, 03:26:18 PM »
I'm currently a new homeowner! :) We purchased our first home (if you can call it that) this past fall, we have now lived here for a few months and are loving it.

Our house isn't really a house at all. It was a hand built RV garage (has 20 ft ceilings to accomadate a RV)  that was converted into a cabin. So half of the space is currently being used as a two vehicle garage and the other half is used as the living quarters. It is a one bedroom, one bath with a full kitchen, living room and loft equaling 800 sq ft. We hardly ever use the loft area besides extra storage and a spare bedroom when we have guests. So we could probably do without that extra 150 Sq Ft.

 


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Re: How many square foot of your house don't you use/need?
« Reply #98 on: December 30, 2014, 03:34:37 PM »
This is OP.  I have considered renting out our 900 sq ft nicely finished basement.  I would need to install a kitchen for about 3k.  Not sure it is worth it?
Depends on rents in your area.

Word of warning: Check local building codes on installing a second kitchen. I live in an area where doing so (for a house below a certain sq/ft) is illegal. No stove, basically.

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« Reply #99 on: December 30, 2014, 04:02:20 PM »
our current house is about 700 sq ft, and we also have a tiny studio apartment in the backyard (which we keep our trash and recycling bins in to keep bears away). The studio is also some storage space (lots of big empty boxes for when we move again). Our house layout is 2 bedroom, 1 bath, kitchen, living room, and a little sunroom off the side of the house that is our bike room (8 bikes)/camping room/bike tools/gear/everything to do anything outdoors room. We don't use the 2nd bedroom for much, except if friends visit from out of town. My clothes are in that room since we have tiny closets, and that's about it. We are about to turn that room into an office/sewing/yoga room, because we lack space for any of that in our living room (which is tiny). If we didn't have the sunroom, we would likely use our 2nd bedroom for our bike/gear room. Having the sunroom has made our space SO much more liveable...the bikes obviously take up a ton of space, and we are able to organize ALL of our gear so it is grab and go when we want to ride/hike/run/camp, etc...I love it.
I'm sure 700 sq ft is a lot to some people, but I have to say, I think it's the smallest we could work with. I've lived in 300sq ft before, and felt claustrophobic (we are both very tall). And with our dog who is very active/high maintenance, it gets cramped sometimes with her giant kennel, bed, toys etc...not to mention my book collection :)

I don't know if I would ever want to live in a house bigger than 1500sq ft though. I can't imagine having any more "things" than I already have...and the more space a person has, the more they tend to accumulate. I would die for a bigger, nicer kitchen though! I spend hours cooking every week, and would love to have room to move around and actual counter space for baking/chopping/food prep.
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