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Re: How Many Cars are In Your Household and What do you Drive??????????
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2016, 03:28:33 PM »
3 cars, all paid off.

2011 Nissan Leaf I bought used a couple years ago to commute with.
2004 Ford Focus, my wife's car with 125k miles, and likely dead soon (making weird noises lately), it is our longer distance car.
2002 Toyota Tundra with 130k miles on it, this is our road trip rig, only gets 3k miles usage a year.

I barely drive now, biking almost everywhere.  So the wife uses the Leaf, and the Focus only gets driven 3-4 times a month when we both need to drive or we are outside the Leaf's range.  I can't justify keeping the truck, but it is so darn handy now and then that I don't feel motivated to sell it.

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« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2016, 03:31:03 PM »
That is awesome! I'll give you a small jab for the 2008 Ford Escape (and maybe another for having a Crown Vic and a Marauder when one Panther ought to be enough for anyone), but otherwise I take less exception to your eight cars than I do to (for example) Chris22's newish Acuras.

lol - and Chris uses one of them to drive his kid to the bus stop.... The good life.
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« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2016, 03:33:09 PM »
2.5 Drivers 3.5 Vehicles.

My Vehicle - 1994 Honda Civic has around 98k miles
Wife's Vehicle - 2007 Lexus RX350 about to hit 160k miles
Toy Vehicle - 1992 Honda Civic. Just sitting, collecting dust.
Kids Vehicle - 2015 Jeep Wrangler Frozen Edition (Power Wheel)

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« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2016, 03:47:05 PM »
Too many Cars... :(
DH is a mechanic he loves his cars.

So... Two drivers

1996 Nissan Blue bird
1991 Toyota Crown Majesta (v8)
^ are our actual driving cars

1979 Toyota Corolla ke30
1981 Honda Civic
1980 Toyota Corolla ke35
^our babies

Now the details are getting hazy....
early-mid  80's Toyota Cressida
mid- late 80's Izuzu Ute

we did bad, we should feel bad....






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« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2016, 03:48:09 PM »
Two adults, both recently retired in our mid 50's, no kids, 2 cars.

1) Honda Accord 2001 with 137K. Bought two years old in 2003 for cash. Still runs great and all cosmetic damage from accidents have been repaired by us. Plan on keeping this until it dies. We use it for all our in town driving because of the fuel economy.

2) Chevy Impala 2006 that drinks gas with 88K. Bought one year old in 2007 for cash. Plan on selling it for about 4500 and buying a used Prius 2011-2013 to be used as our road trip car.

The Chevy sits in the driveway most of the time and only gets driven 1-2 times per week to keep battery charged or if one of us needs the car if the other car is busy. We do use it for road trips because we feel it is more reliable that the Honda for long distances.

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« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2016, 06:32:25 PM »
2015 VW GTI (paid cash)

I'm not very frugal with my vehicles, I admit. I did beaters for years, never again.

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« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2016, 07:03:42 PM »
Two drivers:
2013 f250 with 69k miles. Used to tow our 40' trailer we live full time in.
1999 Camry with 118k miles. Purchased 3 years ago with 88k miles. Been taken care of amazingly yet nickel and diming us to death.
2015 Yamaha Super Tenere - toy

I purchased the F250 brand new. In 3.5 years and 69k miles the value has only dropped about 11k... That's about $260/mo... Not too bad. I'm actually debating trading it in on a new one. I'm mildly overloaded by law towing my trailer and the new ones have about a 2500lb higher capacity, more power, and better fuel mileage. It'd be about $10k, so we'll see.

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« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2016, 07:04:51 PM »
2 drivers, 2 kids.
2012 Mazda 5.
That is all.

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« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2016, 07:08:50 PM »
You'll find one car in our big-ass garage, which is a Subaru Legacy, and was chosen partially to accommodate my wife's professional needs. My main vehicle is my bicycle, and I proudly carry a keychain free from any car keys or fobs; just my bike lock key, house keys and a work key.  #Mustachian

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« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2016, 07:31:39 PM »
2 Drivers, 2 kids & 2 Cars.

Wife's car is a 2007 Honda Accord. It handles 90% of our car needs.

I have a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee that I drive about 2,000 miles a year when the Wisconsin weather makes it unpleasant to ride my bicycle. 


One factor that I wish the OP worked into the original questions is what percentage of your net worth is parked in your garage?

I do not count our $10K worth of cars into our net worth but if I did they would be less than 1% of our net worth. 


So what percentage of your net worth has been spent on cars or motorcycles?


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« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2016, 08:01:28 PM »

Am I officially banned from the forummm now?

I got you beat!

1 driver 8 vehicles.  2001 Ford Ranger, 1999 VW Cabrio, 83 Winnie RV,  76 VW sunroof bus, 71 VW panel bus, 69 VW bus, 69 VW sedan, 67 VW convertible.  This year avg $130/mo for gas, $149/mo for maintenance, $80/mo for insurance.  Maintenance is a little high this year as the Ranger's front end needed rebuilt, front tires were put on the Ranger and Cabrio and a major tune up on the Ranger.  A couple of the VWs will get some work in the remaining months so maintenance won't go down.

As far as net worth not really sure as I don't count any of them in it but it would probably be around 4-5% 

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« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2016, 08:13:47 PM »
HairyUpperLip

Sell me your two mid 1990s Hondas.  If one is green, I will give you a $20 bonus.  I will pay you $425 for both of them in that case.


Chris22, how can you even be on this forum?  I am surprised that you are not in bankruptcy court right now or chasing the tow truck driver that is towing your S2000 because you can't afford it.

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« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2016, 08:21:17 PM »
2 cars, 2 drivers, one child non-driver

2000 Audi A4 1.8tq- 85k miles. Purchased it in 2001 as a lease returned vehicle with only 5k on the odometer. I do most of the maintenance myself and the car still runs strong and looks great at 16 years old.

2008 GMC Acadia- 80k miles. Purchased new (pre-MMM) and has long since been paid off. With the exception of a few warranty covered problems, the car is nice except for the poor gas mileage.

My wife and I have been talking about getting rid of the Acadia and picking up a used late model Mazda CX5 or Honda CRV.

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« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2016, 08:26:16 PM »
2 drivers, 4 cars.
my daily driver 2013 Hyundai Sonata
husband daily driver 2001 F150.  He will never have any vehicle other than a pickup.
2002 Ford explorer, basically only driven when we take the grandchildren out because it is the only thing we can get all 4 into.
1970 mustang.  Actually for entertainment and sentimentality not transportation.

I expect DH will get a newer model pickup within the next year that we can get the grandchildren in, and then we can cut down to 3.

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« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2016, 08:31:57 PM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?

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« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2016, 08:54:36 PM »
1968 Shelby GT500 KR
2007 Ferrari FXX
1963 Corvette Stingray

Oh sorry I misread, I thought the question was, "what do you want to drive???"

Nevermind. :)

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« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2016, 09:11:12 PM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?

Because fuck you! That's why!

Also, I haven't become the full badass that bikes to work every day. And the location of the apartment sucks for biking to begin with. That being said; I am keeping tabs on the real estate market in case we decide to by a house; one of my requirements is even closer to work and easily bikeable among other things (meaning no huge main roads with thin shoulders like I'm on now). We shall see. Also, the vehicles are paid off and not worth a whole lot in the scheme of things. We get more utility keeping the vehicles than we would if we sold them.

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« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2016, 09:28:47 PM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?
Because fuck you! That's why!
That's fair. To each their own. But, if you want that patchy beard to become a bushy beard, you're going to have to tighten the fuck up.

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We shall see. Also, the vehicles are paid off and not worth a whole lot in the scheme of things. We get more utility keeping the vehicles than we would if we sold them.
It's not the gained value in selling them that's at stake. It's the money spent by having them around, the wasteful habits having multiple cars encourages, and the environmental impact - which has both a huge monetary impact and a quality of life impact... for EVERYONE.

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« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2016, 09:48:41 PM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?
Because fuck you! That's why!
That's fair. To each their own. But, if you want that patchy beard to become a bushy beard, you're going to have to tighten the fuck up.

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We shall see. Also, the vehicles are paid off and not worth a whole lot in the scheme of things. We get more utility keeping the vehicles than we would if we sold them.
It's not the gained value in selling them that's at stake. It's the money spent by having them around, the wasteful habits having multiple cars encourages, and the environmental impact - which has both a huge monetary impact and a quality of life impact... for EVERYONE.

I hear you dude/dudette. Here's the problem though. I don't live in the most bike-conducive city. I already know your response that I should man the fuck up or get a new job, or move closer to work. Here's the thing though. I actually like where I live for the time being. It's close to major highways where I have to pick up/drop off my wife at the airport weekly (gasp...carbon footprint is shot...). For me it's a quick 12 minute drive to work, with shopping, etc on the way. In short, it's the best for our situation at the moment.

I don't read MMM and think "wow, I'm doing it all wrong, better quit eating steak and amp up my lentil intake, and bike everywhere even though it's largely inconvenient." I take what I want from his overall message, and apply what works best. Do I want to retire earlier than most people? Absolutely. Do I want to give up cars, no.

I get that burning fossil fuels probably isn't the best for the environment, but I hate to say it, if manning up and biking everywhere means moving to a bike friendly city (I don't want to move if I don't have to), finding a new job (I like my job), making the wife search for a new job (good luck), all so we can minimize our carbon footprint...it's not worth it to me.

For some of us on this board, it's about baby steps. I sold my Jeep Wrangler earlier this year. It was my dream car. However, like you said the costs to keep it running made that dream less desirable and were getting harder to justify. I haven't reached that point with our existing cars.  As we progress, I'm sure we'll do our best to become more "Mustachian," but having 2 cars for 2 drivers driven well less than average is an ok start, and I'm fine with that.

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« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2016, 09:57:18 PM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?
Because fuck you! That's why!
That's fair. To each their own. But, if you want that patchy beard to become a bushy beard, you're going to have to tighten the fuck up.

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We shall see. Also, the vehicles are paid off and not worth a whole lot in the scheme of things. We get more utility keeping the vehicles than we would if we sold them.
It's not the gained value in selling them that's at stake. It's the money spent by having them around, the wasteful habits having multiple cars encourages, and the environmental impact - which has both a huge monetary impact and a quality of life impact... for EVERYONE.

I hear you dude/dudette. Here's the problem though. I don't live in the most bike-conducive city. I already know your response that I should man the fuck up or get a new job, or move closer to work. Here's the thing though. I actually like where I live for the time being. It's close to major highways where I have to pick up/drop off my wife at the airport weekly (gasp...carbon footprint is shot...). For me it's a quick 12 minute drive to work, with shopping, etc on the way. In short, it's the best for our situation at the moment.

I don't read MMM and think "wow, I'm doing it all wrong, better quit eating steak and amp up my lentil intake, and bike everywhere even though it's largely inconvenient." I take what I want from his overall message, and apply what works best. Do I want to retire earlier than most people? Absolutely. Do I want to give up cars, no.

I get that burning fossil fuels probably isn't the best for the environment, but I hate to say it, if manning up and biking everywhere means moving to a bike friendly city (I don't want to move if I don't have to), finding a new job (I like my job), making the wife search for a new job (good luck), all so we can minimize our carbon footprint...it's not worth it to me.

For some of us on this board, it's about baby steps. I sold my Jeep Wrangler earlier this year. It was my dream car. However, like you said the costs to keep it running made that dream less desirable and were getting harder to justify. I haven't reached that point with our existing cars.  As we progress, I'm sure we'll do our best to become more "Mustachian," but having 2 cars for 2 drivers driven well less than average is an ok start, and I'm fine with that.
Good on you, then. As long as the thought process is there, then the improvements will come. Baby steps it is.

Another thing to consider, which is something I'm going to get into when I move in four weeks, is to become active in your community improving the walkability and bikeability of your town. It is a slow road, but many cities have made great headway against what seems, at first, insurmountable odds.

I guess what I'm saying is don't accept the status quo. If things aren't how you'd like them to be, you have options, other than moving, to improve them.

BTW, dude. As in, I'm a dude.

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« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2016, 06:18:45 AM »
::steels self for face punches from all directions::

We have 2 drivers and 8 vehicles.

Toy cars that serve no purpose and mostly just sit around depreciating:
1963 Ford Galaxie, 1974 Dodge Monaco, 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser.

Cars that are driven regularly but still mostly unnecessary:
1991 Ford Crown Vic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 2003 Mercury Marauder, 2008 Ford Escape.

Actual useful work vehicle:
1993 Ford F-350

In my defense, they're paid for and self-maintained, so the cost is still below what the average family in my neighborhood pays to "own" a vehicle for each driver. We sold two in the last year- it WAS ten.

Am I officially banned from the forummm now?

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No, it's a 406. Still rolls though!

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« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2016, 06:25:40 AM »


That is awesome! I'll give you a small jab for the 2008 Ford Escape (and maybe another for having a Crown Vic and a Marauder when one Panther ought to be enough for anyone), but otherwise I take less exception to your eight cars than I do to (for example) Chris22's newish Acuras.
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Gotta have one grocery-getter per grown-up! Haha I kid. They're very serviceable cars.

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« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2016, 06:30:10 AM »

Am I officially banned from the forummm now?

I got you beat!

1 driver 8 vehicles.  2001 Ford Ranger, 1999 VW Cabrio, 83 Winnie RV,  76 VW sunroof bus, 71 VW panel bus, 69 VW bus, 69 VW sedan, 67 VW convertible.  This year avg $130/mo for gas, $149/mo for maintenance, $80/mo for insurance.  Maintenance is a little high this year as the Ranger's front end needed rebuilt, front tires were put on the Ranger and Cabrio and a major tune up on the Ranger.  A couple of the VWs will get some work in the remaining months so maintenance won't go down.

As far as net worth not really sure as I don't count any of them in it but it would probably be around 4-5%

Oh, good, someone to sit in the corner with. I'd like to see a picture of that VW fleet!

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« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2016, 06:54:28 AM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?

People have different interest and different hobbies. I often work in rather desolate locations in which there is zero way I could ride to work safely on a bike. Because I live in a 40' fifth wheel I need something that can tow 15,000+ lbs and be reliable.

My motorcycle, well, no excuse for that other than I have some major 1+ month motorcycle trips planned between contract work if I can ever wait long enough to find a job. These are trips I want to take while I can find the time off and before I have children. Plus, I can also use the bike to commute. I've put another 7000 miles on it since March, so it's getting used.

Our other car is mustachian, the 1999 Camry with 118k on the clock. That being said, even though "not mustachian feasible" I will likely be selling it in the next year or two because I'm sick of being fucking nickel and dimed to death. It's not even the money, it's moreso the hassle of dealing with the shit. I work 60-70 hrs most week and paying for hassle free convenience is worth a lot to me. We'll probably trade it in on a new RAV4 or escape for around 22k-25k.

I paid cash for the motorcycle with my $10k tax return that I got for getting married in December since my wife doesn't work it dropped me down a bracket. Camry is paid off and I will probably be paying my truck off this month.

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« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2016, 06:57:45 AM »
Two drivers.

1 certified pre-owned 2015 BMW 328xi. Probably most expensive regret in my life to date, but it's the wife's dream car and she loves it to death and won't let me "rectify" it.

I have to admit it does look nice in my driveway, but damn is it expensive. Should never have done it.

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« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2016, 07:15:48 AM »
1 car, 1 driver.  2014 Dodge Dart, purchased pre-MMM.  I haven't paid a cent for repairs or oil changes though so that's a plus (I guess you could argue that was included in purchase price).  Sweet looking, really fun driving car, but financially it was stupid on my part.  It's gonna need new tires next summer; low profile tires on 18" rims is NOT gonna be cheap...

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« Reply #76 on: September 01, 2016, 07:16:07 AM »
We have two drivers and 1.5 kids. 2 cars: a 2013 Leaf and a 2011 Outback with the 6 speed manual.

Given where we live, this is close to as practical and economical fleet as we can manage, though we are always kicking around the idea of moving back into town.

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« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2016, 07:19:06 AM »
Two adult drivers, no cars.

We do have a membership in zipcar so we can easily rent a car if we need one. Usually only once a month or so. I take the CTA a lot and we walk and bike a lot.

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« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2016, 07:37:19 AM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?
We have six cars between me, my wife, and my 16 YO son:  2009 Audi A6; 2009 Audi Q7; 2011 GTi: 1975 Porsche Carrera; 1900 Porsche Carrera Cab; 1996 Porsche Carrera.  Collectively they're worth $240,000 but they represent just a small fraction of my net worth.  The Porsche's are all collector cars that I also drive almost daily.  I could sell them and invest the proceeds in index funds, or I could continue holding them and watch their value continue to climb.

I already sold one Porsche.  Paid $12K and sold it for $62.5K.  The '75 I own cost $60K 2 years ago and has already climbed to over $100K.  I paid $24K for the '90 and it currently sells for $42K.  The '96 is still holding steady and it might not appreciate.

Generally cars are just depreciating assets, but in the right situation that isn't always the case.

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« Reply #79 on: September 01, 2016, 07:38:35 AM »

Am I officially banned from the forummm now?

I got you beat!

1 driver 8 vehicles.  2001 Ford Ranger, 1999 VW Cabrio, 83 Winnie RV,  76 VW sunroof bus, 71 VW panel bus, 69 VW bus, 69 VW sedan, 67 VW convertible.  This year avg $130/mo for gas, $149/mo for maintenance, $80/mo for insurance.  Maintenance is a little high this year as the Ranger's front end needed rebuilt, front tires were put on the Ranger and Cabrio and a major tune up on the Ranger.  A couple of the VWs will get some work in the remaining months so maintenance won't go down.

As far as net worth not really sure as I don't count any of them in it but it would probably be around 4-5%

Super jealous of the 83 Winnie RV as well as the VW buses.... Although, I'd like them to replace my condo as well as my car...

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« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2016, 07:39:24 AM »
2 drivers and 2 cars.

However, the husband and I commute together to work. The second car is basically a back up.

Both cars were paid for in cash a long time ago.

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« Reply #81 on: September 01, 2016, 07:40:20 AM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?
We have six cars between me, my wife, and my 16 YO son:  2009 Audi A6; 2009 Audi Q7; 2011 GTi: 1975 Porsche Carrera; 1900 Porsche Carrera Cab; 1996 Porsche Carrera.  Collectively they're worth $240,000 but they represent just a small fraction of my net worth.  The Porsche's are all collector cars that I also drive almost daily.  I could sell them and invest the proceeds in index funds, or I could continue holding them and watch their value continue to climb.

I already sold one Porsche.  Paid $12K and sold it for $62.5K.  The '75 I own cost $60K 2 years ago and has already climbed to over $100K.  I paid $24K for the '90 and it currently sells for $42K.  The '96 is still holding steady and it might not appreciate.

Generally cars are just depreciating assets, but in the right situation that isn't always the case.

You must've bough the 96 993 recently, otherwise I'd be surprised if that one hasn't/won't rise most of all of them.  Great cars.

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« Reply #82 on: September 01, 2016, 07:42:35 AM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?
We have six cars between me, my wife, and my 16 YO son:  2009 Audi A6; 2009 Audi Q7; 2011 GTi: 1975 Porsche Carrera; 1900 Porsche Carrera Cab; 1996 Porsche Carrera.  Collectively they're worth $240,000 but they represent just a small fraction of my net worth.  The Porsche's are all collector cars that I also drive almost daily.  I could sell them and invest the proceeds in index funds, or I could continue holding them and watch their value continue to climb.

I already sold one Porsche.  Paid $12K and sold it for $62.5K.  The '75 I own cost $60K 2 years ago and has already climbed to over $100K.  I paid $24K for the '90 and it currently sells for $42K.  The '96 is still holding steady and it might not appreciate.

Generally cars are just depreciating assets, but in the right situation that isn't always the case.

You must've bough the 96 993 recently, otherwise I'd be surprised if that one hasn't/won't rise most of all of them.  Great cars.

Yep, I bought the '96 just 2 months ago.  I has 100% orig paint and 52K miles.  I bought it right in you're neck of the woods.

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« Reply #83 on: September 01, 2016, 07:42:50 AM »
Chris22, how can you even be on this forum?  I am surprised that you are not in bankruptcy court right now or chasing the tow truck driver that is towing your S2000 because you can't afford it.

I know, it's amazing, right?  It's been paid for since 2009 (acquired in 2007) and the damn thing just keeps getting repo'd!  Unreal.

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« Reply #84 on: September 01, 2016, 07:48:35 AM »
Two drivers. A hatchback, 8 years old, 75,000kms paid cash, a scooter (similar age, 18000kms also paid cash) and two pushbikes. Feels excessive given i mostly cycle and sister mostly walks or rides the bus. The scooter is a hobby vehicle. The car is for weekends away and visting our parents (who live an hours drive away but it takes about 3 hours by public transport as they are in a different town and the transit doesn't link up well.)

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« Reply #85 on: September 01, 2016, 07:56:05 AM »
One car, one driver. 2002 Holden Barina, purchased in late 2014 with 111,000km, last I checked it's at just under 128,000km.

Still a good little car (despite some expensive maintenance as of late), planning on hanging on to it for a while.

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« Reply #86 on: September 01, 2016, 08:17:32 AM »
I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?

Because they're hobbies, not [only] transportation.

To rag on Chris22 some more, that's why I objected to his boring Acuras but not his sports car.

Another thing to consider, which is something I'm going to get into when I move in four weeks, is to become active in your community improving the walkability and bikeability of your town. It is a slow road, but many cities have made great headway against what seems, at first, insurmountable odds.

That's actually another of my hobbies. I'm a car enthusiast and cycling/transit activist, go figure!

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« Reply #87 on: September 01, 2016, 08:27:03 AM »
To rag on Chris22 some more, that's why I objected to his boring Acuras but not his sports car.

Yeah, they are boring, but it's all about perspective.  You see some moderately expensive boring cars, and you aren't wrong.  I see two cars that are cheaper, more reliable, and cheaper to own and run than the cars I might otherwise have, the BMWs/MBs/Audis lots of my peers drive.  Sure, compared to a shitty 1997 Corolla, my Acura is a very expensive car.  But no matter what you say and how much money I can save, I will never drive a shitty 1997 Corolla, just not interested.  Good for those who are, I'm not.  I look at the guy in the next office over who makes what I do and leases a $50k Audi, and think, damn, I've made a good choice.  The best choice?  Probably not, but a damn good choice given where it is versus what most in my peer/income group drive.

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« Reply #88 on: September 01, 2016, 08:51:00 AM »
We are 2 drivers with 3 cars.  We have 3 kids under age 10.

Me: 2008 Honda Odyssey.  Bought used for cash.  Don't know mileage.  Maybe 65,000 miles?
DH: 2005 Toyota Camry.  Bought used for cash.  Don't know mileage.  Maybe 80,000 miles?
DH: 1999 Jeep Wrangler.  He bought it new.  It's paid off.  Don't know mileage.  Maybe 80,000 miles?

DH came with the Jeep and he LOVES it.  He uses the Camry when he drives the kids.  Camry used to be mine.  Jeep actually goes up in value over time, to my surprise.  DH does a lot of auto maintenance so that saves us some.  He wants to give the Jeep to our 9 year old when he starts to drive.

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« Reply #89 on: September 01, 2016, 08:59:32 AM »
1 car, 1 driver.  2014 Dodge Dart, purchased pre-MMM.  I haven't paid a cent for repairs or oil changes though so that's a plus (I guess you could argue that was included in purchase price).  Sweet looking, really fun driving car, but financially it was stupid on my part.  It's gonna need new tires next summer; low profile tires on 18" rims is NOT gonna be cheap...
Ditch the low profile wheels and pick up some steel rims if you can, it will likely save you some money in the long run and you can always sell the current rims while they're still in good condition.

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How Many Cars are In Your Household and What do you Drive??????????
« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2016, 09:10:19 AM »
We have a 2012 Ford Escape Hybrid with 52,000 miles, a 2013 Smart Car with 28,000 miles, a 2003 golf cart with 3,000 miles and 4 bikes (2 electric, 2 not) for the two of us. We bike and golf cart a lot, use the Escape for longer trips, and the Smart Car for errands. DH and I frequently use cars at the same time. The golf cart and bikes do not feel safe in Florida thunderstorms, which happen most afternoons in the summer.
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« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2016, 09:36:20 AM »
This entire thread blows my damn mind! I thought we were Mustachians? There is so much waste going on here... and so much not being creative about transportation... I'm shocked.

I thought minimizing car use and ownership and financing was one of the main pillars of Mustachetitude? Have you folks with the bazillion cars even read those posts? How in the world do you justify it?

THIS!    one of the reasons i started this to see what the exrtemes on either end were. 
word of note = my side hustle is used car biz so i see and help people purchase mistakes almost daily.   It is insane what hoops folks will go through just to drive........       

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« Reply #92 on: September 01, 2016, 09:57:04 AM »
1 car, 1 driver.  2014 Dodge Dart, purchased pre-MMM.  I haven't paid a cent for repairs or oil changes though so that's a plus (I guess you could argue that was included in purchase price).  Sweet looking, really fun driving car, but financially it was stupid on my part.  It's gonna need new tires next summer; low profile tires on 18" rims is NOT gonna be cheap...
Ditch the low profile wheels and pick up some steel rims if you can, it will likely save you some money in the long run and you can always sell the current rims while they're still in good condition.

Already done! :)  I have steel rims for winter driving.  Keeps summer ones in great condition.

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« Reply #93 on: September 01, 2016, 10:16:18 AM »
3 cars, 1 motorcycle...

- 1991 Toyota MR2 is my daily driver.  281,000 miles.  Just received a new radiator (its 4th now) after the previous one rotted out.  A week long episode ending up costing $1300 and requiring some hammer modifications to the car as stock radiators are no longer available.  All you can get are "supposed to fit" aluminum racing radiators for it now...

- 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse, my toy car.  120 something thousand miles?  Dunno.  Got an engine knock now, but it's been doing it for the last couple of years.  Will probably be fatal at some point, might have the engine rebuilt though.  Currently waiting on a replacement axle rebuild (I bought a used spare to have built then swapped in so I could keep driving it) as my carrier bearings are howling so bad I won't drive over 40mph with it.

- 2002 Toyota Celica the wife's daily driver.  150 ish thousand?  Needs a swaybar bushing replacement and a charcoal canister solenoid.  Just recently dropped $2700 on it having rust patches repaired and both side sides repainted.

- 1994 Suzuki Katana, the toy motorcycle.  Was using it as cheap transportation quite a bit this Summer until it suddenly started dumping gas down the side of the engine.  Currently in the process of pulling off enough body parts to get down to the carbs as I suspect a stuck float...

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How do I justify?  I'm mathematically FI now, even with these expenses (and for awhile before then was FI if I dumped the toys).
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« Reply #94 on: September 01, 2016, 10:26:04 AM »
I am single with a son.  And have 2 vehicles.

1. 2012 Honda Accord EX-L V6 bought new with 2 miles on it.  Currently has 75k on it.
2. 2009 Honda Ridgeline RTL bought used with 40k on it.

I intend on keeping them forever so I really don't worry about them.  I got good purchase prices and haven't had to worry about beater problems. 

If I had to do it all over again I'd buy the one vehicle, a truck of some kind, and lease the other vehicle for work and daily driving.  I've seen a ton of great leases for <$150 on Optima Hybrids and small cars like the Chevy Cruze/Elantra/Civic/etc.  I'd take a 2 year lease and never do any maintenance or ever buy tires again and gladly pay that amount. 

I intend on buying a 3rd vehicle for pure pleasure.  A convertible of some kind that's relatively cheap 10-15k.  Maybe a Nissan 350z, Mazda Miata, Chrysler Crossfire Roadster, C5 Corvette, Camaro/Mustang.  I just can't decide if I want the nimbleness a the tiny roadsters or the brute force of a V8 in Vettes/Pony cars.

OH OH!  And I want a Ducati Monster since I sold my Kawasaki Ninja a few years back.  Mustachianism isn't all it's cracked up to be lol!

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« Reply #95 on: September 01, 2016, 10:38:51 AM »
2 cars for 2 commuting adults.

2012 Kia Optima (66k miles) - purchased new, ugh, oh well (cash)
2012 Mini Cooper Countryman (33k miles) - purchased used w/8k miles (cash)

Hoping these carry us through our 2020 FIRE date with relatively low maintenance.  Plan to become a 1-car family post-FIRE.

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« Reply #96 on: September 01, 2016, 10:46:24 AM »
I see a lot of people in this thread saying they bought new and paid cash.  I don't understand why anyone would pay cash in this interest rate environment? 

The Loan on my Accord, now paid off, was only 0.9% and the used rate on my truck is only 1.9%.  I put that money to work in the market, no sense in paying them off early. 

And i know a lot of automakers are giving 0% loans for ridiculous time frames like 72+ months.

I think that's one of the great advantages to cheap leases, no maintenance costs, no out of pocket costs to pay cash, lower monthly payments.  And all that left over money to invest.  You of course have to be diligent and actually use that saved money to invest instead of wasting it needlessly.

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« Reply #97 on: September 01, 2016, 10:55:55 AM »
I see a lot of people in this thread saying they bought new and paid cash.  I don't understand why anyone would pay cash in this interest rate environment? 

The Loan on my Accord, now paid off, was only 0.9% and the used rate on my truck is only 1.9%.  I put that money to work in the market, no sense in paying them off early. 

Because it's no fun to smugly brag on the internet about your low interest loan.

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« Reply #98 on: September 01, 2016, 11:02:40 AM »
Family of four.
2014 Toyota 4Runner (on loan)
2012 Ford Escape (paid off)
2006 Ford Mustang GT (hobby car, paid off)
I live this way because I like face punches.

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« Reply #99 on: September 01, 2016, 11:06:52 AM »
3 Drivers - Myself, girlfriend, renter/roommate

Me- 2013 VW Passat - 2.5% loan
GF - 2002 Subaru Legacy
Renter - Older(2000?) Lexus sedan of some sort