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MVal

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Home based business experiments - what is your experience?
« on: June 08, 2016, 11:40:04 AM »
Who of you currently have or used to have a home based business other than real estate? I'm curious what sorts of businesses people do outside a regular job to either supplement or replace their income. What were the most difficult and rewarding aspects of your experience? How do taxes work with such things compared to regular employment?

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Re: Home based business experiments - what is your experience?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2016, 01:37:04 PM »
When I was unemployed, I made and sold stuffed animals online to pay the bills.  Especially with feeling depressed with the job search, it was really nice to spend time around colorful thread and fabrics, and make something soft and huggable when I was done.  The people I sold to were really awesome, I feel like I developed a relatively rare skill, and it allowed us to pay the bills without working fast food.  Now I can make custom plush for friends or family that are unique, without worrying about the money.  There were a number of tough parts, for me at least:
1. The advertising portion of gaining online sales/commissions was really hard.  Photography quality is a huge part of sale-ability, and yes, I did see people with lower quality products drum up more interest because they took better pictures or did better advertising.  Especially the scammy "like my FB page/1 giveaway for every 1k likes!" messages.  They were effective, but didn't line up with my morals.
2. There's a big rush to find the next big fad/keeping up with the Jones's.  Everyone wants to gain that bigger sales slice of the pie, and it really lead to this frantic rush.  Minky!  Embroidery!  Socks!  Airbrushing!  And if you didn't spend into the latest "fad" it seemed like you lost a lot of potential $$.  Or just struggled with feeling marginalized, depressed, or less creative.

Taxes were actually really easy.  I kept a spreadsheet with every sale, how much I paid in fees, and every cent I paid for supplies.  Come tax time, any tax software has an option for "business", walks you through the prompts, and you plug in your numbers.  I think I paid ~$120 that year.  There's some specific rules about hobby businesses and higher income businesses with quarterly estimated tax, but I never earned enough to be anywhere near those specialties.  A few Google searches will probably find some helpful articles.

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Re: Home based business experiments - what is your experience?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2016, 01:52:22 PM »
In my job, I get to see a lot of businesses get home occupation documents for their home-based businesses. A lot of those are lawncare and handyman businesses, and I don't think they make much money. I certainly don't see how they could possibly beat out the kid down the street who needs money to take his gf to the movies. We had one guy who specialized in stump removal, but his start-up costs were very high. Also, he couldn't have a big sign in his yard due to zoning regulations. I told him that online advertising might be a better option for him. It sucks, because he's a veteran-owned small business, but nobody wants to live in a neighborhood with a giant sign in a yard.

Babysitting services are also popular, as are house cleaning services. Again, I'm not sure how these people make money. We also have at least one tattoo parlor set up in someone's home.

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Re: Home based business experiments - what is your experience?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 03:49:34 PM »
One of those MLM companies.
Not a current side gig (I can't have any outside employment with my current job) it was something I did while laid off.  I was in the black within a month, and averaged $25/hour.  I like the product (Pampered Chef), the work itself was pleasant. 
It was good to get out and meet people.  I got to play at having my own cooking show on TV because I was doing demonstrations of products and feeding people. 
The challenge was variability in income. The same effort might net $10 or $1000 for things out of my control.  On balance, I did well.  But in the midst of it, I was never completely sure that I would. 

I never experienced pressure to sell or recruit others to sell.  I'm laid-back, so that would have been a turn off.  But as I got to interact with others doing direct sales, there was a quid-pro-quo sort of pressure from them to try Arbone, Nerium, some kind of acaii berry juice, candles, etc...

Not a lawyer or tax advisor, so I don't want to mislead on taxes.  I'll just say you have to pay them, and professional advice is worthwhile as soon as your tax situation involves a business.

I would totally start up again after my regular career is over. 

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Re: Home based business experiments - what is your experience?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2016, 03:54:08 PM »
My business is set up as an S-Corp.  (To do it over, I'd set it up as an LLC taxed as an S-Corp.)

Why would you do it that way instead?

 

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