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Title: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: maisymouser on February 18, 2020, 04:42:51 AM
Highly personal topic, but I don't require a shower every day. I average about 3.5 showers per week. I'm one of those lucky people who do not stink 24 hours after taking a shower or bath, unless I have done some very rigorous activity or unless temperatures reach 85F. I recommend it to those who can get away with it because it saves time, water, electricity, and cleaning products. My SO smells *really* bad within less than a day of showering, so he obviously doesn't follow my lead on this one. Still, I wanted to shout out to all the folks who are sensibly not over-showering.

Happy Tuesday y'all, hope you change the world with this newfound knowledge!
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Dicey on February 18, 2020, 05:05:22 AM
My mom was a nurse. She said that bathing every day was not automatically necessary and that the notion that it is was an invention of the soap companies purely to sell more soap.

When i was younger, I had super oily hair and skin. Oh, how I envied people who didn't have to wash their hair as often as I did! Now, post-menopause, my hair and skin are much dryer and less washing actually feels better.

I am an HGTV geek, and enjoy "Good Bones". Mina, the daughter of the mother-daughter team, readily admits to not showering or washing her hair with great frequency. Good for her for owning it.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Cranky on February 18, 2020, 05:55:27 AM
I think that washing your hair more often can actually make it oilier, odd as that seems.

I think that the idea that people smell bad without a daily shower is pretty modern, and definitely was promoted by companies selling consumer products.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: rantk81 on February 18, 2020, 05:56:21 AM
Maybe you don't "have to", but I certainly "want to"!
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Sugaree on February 18, 2020, 06:02:48 AM
My hair is currently purple, which is one of those colors that doesn't necessarily hold up well to frequent washings.  I might wash it twice a week with occasional dry shampoo applications in between.  I do shower every day because sometimes it's the only 5 minutes of peace and quiet I have during the day.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: chemistk on February 18, 2020, 06:04:42 AM
My wife does not shower daily, but I certainly do. Even in winter, I smell horrible after a day of standard activities. Worse if I workout. My wife can immediately tell, from across the room, if I haven't bathed in 36 hours - I very much envy those who don't smell after a day or two. I compensate for this by limiting showers to 3 or 4 minutes, and washing with shampoo only every 2 or 3 days.

I will say though, I'm very aware that it's not necessarily healthy, but I love the feeling of dry skin. It's a strange satisfaction, but wearing lotion of any kind is one of the worse tortures I could endure long term. The best feeling is putting on a freshly washed starchy pair of jeans.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: John Galt incarnate! on February 18, 2020, 06:06:59 AM
Maybe you don't "have to", but I certainly "want to"!

I like to bathe every day so I do.

Sometimes beloved SO (bSO) will join me for a languid soak in the tub.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: John Galt incarnate! on February 18, 2020, 06:12:41 AM
My wife does not shower daily, but I certainly do. Even in winter, I smell horrible after a day of standard activities. Worse if I workout. My wife can immediately tell, from across the room, if I haven't bathed in 36 hours - I very much envy those who don't smell after a day or two. I compensate for this by limiting showers to 3 or 4 minutes, and washing with shampoo only every 2 or 3 days.

I will say though, I'm very aware that it's not necessarily healthy, but I love the feeling of dry skin. It's a strange satisfaction, but wearing lotion of any kind is one of the worse tortures I could endure long term. The best feeling is putting on a freshly washed starchy pair of jeans.

For bathing I use shampoo too.

I dislike stiff clothing.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Metalcat on February 18, 2020, 07:03:15 AM
I almost never wash my face, I dissolve makeup and dirt with coconut oil, rinse and that's it.

I think it depends a lot on the individual, their biome, and what they wear. I know in the 90s in my cheap polyester days, I didn't smell as nice as I do now that I wear almost exclusively merino wool.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Just Joe on February 18, 2020, 08:01:22 AM
Count me part of the daily wash group. I can sometimes get away with skipping a day but if I walk into the room and the family dog's eyes start watering I know I've got to shower...
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: renata ricotta on February 18, 2020, 08:46:59 AM
I exercise at least once a day, typically twice, so skipping a shower isn’t something I’m willing to do to other people :) especially because washing my body saves other water/soap expenditures - my clothes on a clean body usually can be worn 2-3 times before laundering, more for items like jeans. However, most of my showers are just body rinses with a bar of soap. I only wash my hair every 2-3 days (it would be longer but most of my workout sweat seems to come from my head - after a particularly intense cardio workout my hair seems almost fully wet). I don’t wash my face with soap or other cleanser - I find it does better by a physical scrub with a microfiber towel in the shower, which gets all my makeup off.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Boofinator on February 18, 2020, 08:54:12 AM
Getting personal, I like it!

I shower every day. But I practically never use soap when I shower (with the exception of working on cars, or getting muddy, those kinds of things)*. I also rarely use shampoo.

I find that skin and hair health correlate closely with diet. If I'm eating healthy, I feel it in my skin, can see it in my hair, and can smell it on my body.

*I always wash my hands after using the toilet, to be clear.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Aelias on February 18, 2020, 10:28:57 AM
My husband and I have been on team shower-only-when-you-need-it for a year or so.  We're both desk jockeys and not especially oily people, so we really don't need regular showers. I think the standing rule is, "Once a week, whether you need it or not!" ;).  Seriously, anything that both indulges my laziness AND saves money / resources is right in my sweet spot.

Interestingly, in the winter, it really seems to help with my husband's dry skin and eczema.  I've also moved away from shampooing my hair -- just a nickel's worth of conditioner when I shower.  It was a bit of an adjustment, but now my hair is super healthy and soft, no need for product ever.  I'm on the lookout for a good DIY hair conditioner recipe if anyone can recommend one!

Another interesting thing--stress sweat really does smell worse than regular sweat!  If I'm sweating because I'm sweating, I don't notice it.  If I'm sweating because I'm stressed, I can smell it immediately.


Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: PoutineLover on February 18, 2020, 10:38:19 AM
If I skip a shower one day, I feel pretty gross. My lifestyle isn't incredibly sweaty, and I work a desk job, but I do at least some sort of physical exercise every day, so I think a daily shower is reasonable. I only wash my hair about twice a week, because more than that seems to dry it out. My showers are pretty quick and I don't use a ton of products, so I don't think it's a huge waste.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: mm1970 on February 18, 2020, 10:39:31 AM
I exercise vigorously most days, so I shower almost every day.  Occasionally, on the weekend, my workout will be a long walk and then I can skip the shower that day.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: savedandsaving on February 19, 2020, 01:05:17 PM
I envy you, OP! I've been doing the 3-times-weekly shower life for the past year or so, but I coincidentally just switched back to almost once a day. I couldn't take it. My oily hair/skin looked terrible a mighty 4ish days a week, I broke out more, and I just felt emotionally taxed and ashamed of how I looked all the time. I also sweat more than anyone I know and live in a place where the temps exceed 90F for 7 months out of the year, so. Eeck.

At one point, I was using dry shampoo to fill in the gap days, but then I started to feel guilty about all the aerosols I was putting out there and money I was spending on the nice spray stuff. I abandoned baking soda/baby powder as dry shampoo back in college--you could see the white in my fine hair, and it made me look like I was graying (or had awful dandruff!)
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: maisymouser on February 19, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
Yep, like I said- super personal! I don't judge anyone for showering 1x/day, I just hope that most people don't do it strictly out of habit. On that note, I'm heading to my lavishly hot shower! It's so nice that we live in such a world- just think, a couple hundred years ago and hot showers on demand were a pipe dream...
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: MrThatsDifferent on February 19, 2020, 05:48:55 PM
I guess you can get away with it if you’re not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you’re not doing physical exercise but since I don’t want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Boofinator on February 20, 2020, 06:52:03 AM
I guess you can get away with it if you’re not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you’re not doing physical exercise but since I don’t want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!

I'm curious, do you have any data supporting this hypothesis? I'd be willing to bet the species will continue to propagate should the shower become obsolete.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: ixtap on February 20, 2020, 07:14:56 AM
I guess you can get away with it if you’re not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you’re not doing physical exercise but since I don’t want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!

I'm curious, do you have any data supporting this hypothesis? I'd be willing to bet the species will continue to propagate should the shower become obsolete.

I read it to mean that they are having sex in such a way that a shower is the only way to clean up afterwards. Which in itself is intriguing.

With central heating and/or soft water, I have to take as few showers as possible to save my skin. Learning that has been useful in saving money and water, even now that I do not use the central heating nor have soft water.

On the other hand, in Texas, I often needed two showers a day to feel decent.

Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Boofinator on February 20, 2020, 07:24:35 AM
I read it to mean that they are having sex in such a way that a shower is the only way to clean up afterwards. Which in itself is intriguing.

The part that lived up to the user name and intrigues me as well:

I guess you can get away with it if you're not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you're not doing physical exercise but since I don't want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!

To add from my personal experiences: Long backpacking trips have included both physical exercise and sex (with someone else!), so perhaps the proposed hypothesis should be reevaluated.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: BTDretire on February 20, 2020, 08:49:50 AM
I had a girl friend 45 years ago, I suspect she didn't shower daily, but she had a scent that still brings great memories to me. I think if she were around today, I would get a rise from just a scent of her!
 In the winter I will occasionally skip a day, but if I get out and exercise I take a shower just for comfort.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: dignam on February 20, 2020, 09:16:14 AM
Not recommended in the summer lol.  I sweat, A LOT.  Our summers are 80s and 90s and humid and I often hose off twice a day.  But in the winter, sure I sometimes go a day without showering.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: MrThatsDifferent on February 20, 2020, 11:21:48 AM
I read it to mean that they are having sex in such a way that a shower is the only way to clean up afterwards. Which in itself is intriguing.

The part that lived up to the user name and intrigues me as well:

I guess you can get away with it if you're not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you're not doing physical exercise but since I don't want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!

To add from my personal experiences: Long backpacking trips have included both physical exercise and sex (with someone else!), so perhaps the proposed hypothesis should be reevaluated.

If you don’t stink or have parts that need cleaned up after sex, you’re doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Caoineag on February 20, 2020, 01:35:41 PM
I read it to mean that they are having sex in such a way that a shower is the only way to clean up afterwards. Which in itself is intriguing.

The part that lived up to the user name and intrigues me as well:

I guess you can get away with it if you're not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you're not doing physical exercise but since I don't want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!

To add from my personal experiences: Long backpacking trips have included both physical exercise and sex (with someone else!), so perhaps the proposed hypothesis should be reevaluated.

If you don’t stink or have parts that need cleaned up after sex, you’re doing it wrong.

You do know there are ways of getting cleaned up that don't require a shower right? Showers are only required when you are a mess from head to toe which is what intrigued so many. I would ask what you are doing that gets you that messy but I really think that might be TMI for even this forum, lol.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: American GenX on February 20, 2020, 01:41:33 PM

I take a shower every day.

And to the people that think they don't stink if they don't take showers, you do!
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: jim555 on February 20, 2020, 01:54:38 PM
Eww... You all NEED to take a daily shower. 
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: partgypsy on February 20, 2020, 02:23:25 PM
I might not need to, but it feels so good to take a shower. I don't have to take a long one but love washing my face, hair, etc in the shower. I do try to skip one day of showing per week (usually on a weekend when I'm not around other people!). It's not a smelliness issue, its a personal comfort one. 
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: projekt on February 20, 2020, 02:34:07 PM
I take a shower every day.

And to the people that think they don't stink if they don't take showers, you do!

I think this is funny because there are a bunch of people who shower/bathe less regularly and nobody notices. There are also a few who are obviously stinky and noseblind. But then there are a bunch of people who shower daily or twice daily and smell terrible. These people are accused behind their backs of rarely showering. It may even be the daily soap that is making them smell bad by selecting for smelly, resistant bacteria. Studies have shown that they would improve if they rolled around naked in dirt as a probiotic.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: renata ricotta on February 20, 2020, 02:47:08 PM
I guess you can get away with it if you’re not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you’re not doing physical exercise but since I don’t want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!

I'm curious, do you have any data supporting this hypothesis? I'd be willing to bet the species will continue to propagate should the shower become obsolete.

Sure, life finds a way and all that, but I think the majority of people would say that it's at least a lot more pleasant/enticing to spend your close-proximity time with someone who is fresh and clean. Exactly how frequently a particular person needs to bathe to stay pleasantly clean is a bit variable, but is still pretty important.

Plus, I don't try to live my life according to the bar necessary to literally not go extinct. Before modern toothbrushing practices and dentistry people's mouths were generally disgusting rotting cesspits, but obviously they still managed to propagate the species. Before the advent of running water most people were probably pretty musky most of the time; we had to put up with it because it's just the way things were. Doesn't mean we should put up with that when we don't have to.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: MrThatsDifferent on February 20, 2020, 05:49:50 PM
I read it to mean that they are having sex in such a way that a shower is the only way to clean up afterwards. Which in itself is intriguing.

The part that lived up to the user name and intrigues me as well:

I guess you can get away with it if you're not having regular sex with yourself or someone else, and/or you're not doing physical exercise but since I don't want to be sexless and out of shape, I gotta shower every day. Poor me!

To add from my personal experiences: Long backpacking trips have included both physical exercise and sex (with someone else!), so perhaps the proposed hypothesis should be reevaluated.

If you don’t stink or have parts that need cleaned up after sex, you’re doing it wrong.

You do know there are ways of getting cleaned up that don't require a shower right? Showers are only required when you are a mess from head to toe which is what intrigued so many. I would ask what you are doing that gets you that messy but I really think that might be TMI for even this forum, lol.

I’m doing it right! ;-)
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Nangirl17 on February 20, 2020, 05:53:42 PM
When it's warm outside (I'm in Canada, so this is pretty much just July), I shower more frequently, but for the other months, I'm always cold, since we keep our house at mustachian temperatures. Yep, I often need long sleeves in June and August. So unless the weather is warm, I shower every other day. 

Exception: if I exercise or am at a birth (even if it is a short, stressless, not-a-drop-anywhere delivery, I still feel the need to shower afterwards...).

I wash my hair every 2 to 4 days depending on how dirty it is. 
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: undercover on February 20, 2020, 06:50:31 PM
I basically have to. In the course of a day, I sweat a lot and my skins/hair gets oily. I feel SO much more clean/comfortable going to bed with a shower. For me it’s like not brushing my teeth at night.

I mean honestly I usually take two showers a day. I’d prob spend all day in bed if I didn’t have a warm shower to get up to.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 20, 2020, 07:30:23 PM
I shower every 2-3 days in the winter, otherwise my skin objects violently. I’m just not very oily. I’ve never had to wash my face, even as a teenager.

Summers are sweaty, and showers start feeling good again. Generally one a day.

And to the people that think they don't stink if they don't take showers, you do!

Eventually, sure. But there’s no magic button that says everyone starts to smell objectionable exactly at the 24 hour mark. Some in this thread have said their window is shorter. It follows that some people’s windows are longer.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Kris on February 20, 2020, 07:57:37 PM
I try to work up a sweat with exercise most days, so I feel the need to clean myself after that. However, to save my skin, I often just stand under the shower for a bit and let the water cleanse my hair and body, and only use soap for the pits and “undercarriage.”

That said, I live in Minnesota, so I’m talking about the colder months here. In the summer, it’s hot and humid, so the idea of not showering daily during those months seems a bit crazy to me.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Metalcat on February 21, 2020, 04:40:05 AM
I shower every 2-3 days in the winter, otherwise my skin objects violently. I’m just not very oily. I’ve never had to wash my face, even as a teenager.

Summers are sweaty, and showers start feeling good again. Generally one a day.

And to the people that think they don't stink if they don't take showers, you do!

Eventually, sure. But there’s no magic button that says everyone starts to smell objectionable exactly at the 24 hour mark. Some in this thread have said their window is shorter. It follows that some people’s windows are longer.

Agreed, I'm not sure how someone can assume that everyone's skin biome is just like theirs.

I'm just not sweaty, even when I work out I only get a faint glow of sweat and mostly on my hands and a bit on my chest, but it disappears within a few minutes. I used to bike to work up a massive hill, quickly switched my clothes, and was ready to go. Again though, I wear all merino wool and this does have an impact.

I'm also not oily at all and have to moisturize constantly, my RMTs are always commenting that the massage oil disappears and they have to use 5 times as much.

That said, I shower religiously after every work shift because of how disgusting my job is. When I was working full time, my skin was miserable and my hair got so dry I had to cut it all off to one inch.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: ketchup on February 21, 2020, 06:08:22 AM
My girlfriend can get away with not showering every day and still smell like roses.  I can't.  Hour 25 and I look like I crawled out of a trash can.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Boofinator on February 21, 2020, 06:51:57 AM
Plus, I don't try to live my life according to the bar necessary to literally not go extinct. Before modern toothbrushing practices and dentistry people's mouths were generally disgusting rotting cesspits, but obviously they still managed to propagate the species. Before the advent of running water most people were probably pretty musky most of the time; we had to put up with it because it's just the way things were. Doesn't mean we should put up with that when we don't have to.

I agree to some extent (and as mentioned upthread, I generally shower daily!). But, not to get too sidetracked, I also believe a lot of the issues you mention in this paragraph are to a good extent consequences of the modern lifestyle (minus the muskiness). For example, tooth decay is well known to have a very strong correlation with diet, and in my opinion my personal smelliness has a similar correlation.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Just Joe on February 21, 2020, 07:35:42 AM
I'm a big hairy guy. Gotta shower regularly. Hair is changing. Has always been oily no matter what my diet or weight or age until recently. Started to dry out (grey hair now). I can wash it a few times a week now rather than daily. It gets hot and humid and my activities are often dirty (engineer/mechanic). Also requires showers.

Fortunate that my ebike allows me to ride to work and arrive in reasonable condition otherwise I would need to drive. The chosen boost level is as much about minimizing sweat as anything else. On the ride home, little or no boost is preferred.

Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Tyson on February 21, 2020, 10:51:13 AM
Guys, if you want to stink less, shave your armpits.  It's the hair that the bacteria really cling to and stink up. 
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: American GenX on February 21, 2020, 11:14:35 AM

It's also possible you stink a lot more than you realize, but no one is telling you because they don't want to come across as rude or a jerk.

Some people will even wear the same clothes multiple days, and that adds to the stench.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Metalcat on February 21, 2020, 01:03:57 PM

It's also possible you stink a lot more than you realize, but no one is telling you because they don't want to come across as rude or a jerk.

Some people will even wear the same clothes multiple days, and that adds to the stench.

I'm getting the sense that you smell really really bad if you skip a shower...
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: spiro on February 21, 2020, 01:44:14 PM

It's also possible you stink a lot more than you realize, but no one is telling you because they don't want to come across as rude or a jerk.

Some people will even wear the same clothes multiple days, and that adds to the stench.

I'm getting the sense that you smell really really bad if you skip a shower...

Sounds like you're also just jealous that you smell and others don't. My husband and I don't shower every day (or even every other day sometimes) and I promise you that people around us are none the wiser. I also have insanely thick course hair that only has to be washed 1-2x/week. My husband is bald so there's that too. We simply don't product much body sweat or odor (in the winter). On the rare occasion that one of us smells, we tell each other.

On another note, showering/baths are not the only way to clean your body. Plenty of people all around the world are perfectly capable of keeping themselves clean without actually getting under running water. Wash cloths,etc do the same thing and are far more water efficient.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: American GenX on February 21, 2020, 01:47:22 PM

It's also possible you stink a lot more than you realize, but no one is telling you because they don't want to come across as rude or a jerk.

Some people will even wear the same clothes multiple days, and that adds to the stench.

I'm getting the sense that you smell really really bad if you skip a shower...

I don't want to find out, so I take a shower everyday and wear clean clothes.  But I think these stinky people I've come across don't realize how bad they smell, or they would be doing something about it.   Just because no one says you stink, doesn't mean you don't.   Most people just aren't going to come out and tell you.  Someone close to you isn't going to notice because they've grown used to it.  But believe me, the public notices.  By "you", I just mean any individual, not the person I responded to.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: ChickenStash on February 21, 2020, 02:14:19 PM

It's also possible you stink a lot more than you realize, but no one is telling you because they don't want to come across as rude or a jerk.

Some people will even wear the same clothes multiple days, and that adds to the stench.

I'm getting the sense that you smell really really bad if you skip a shower...

I don't want to find out, so I take a shower everyday and wear clean clothes.  But I think these stinky people I've come across don't realize how bad they smell, or they would be doing something about it.   Just because no one says you stink, doesn't mean you don't.   Most people just aren't going to come out and tell you.  Someone close to you isn't going to notice because they've grown used to it.  But believe me, the public notices.  By "you", I just mean any individual, not the person I responded to.

I couldn't say it applies to everyone but I've experienced this. A friend of a friend was saying how her husband doesn't need to wear deodorant and doesn't smell, etc. when just about everyone in the group had to correct her that he really does smell - talk about an exercise in tact. She was shocked. Maybe both hers and his sense of smell is wonky or they are just used to it and the odor is ignored somehow? But, either way, there were two people completely oblivious to a body odor problem.

For myself, I need to shower daily to not smell terrible or feel dirty - more often if I do a lot of activity in the warmer months. It drove me nuts the last time I flew overseas because I wound up having to be up and around for 30 some hours with layovers without a shower...yuck. First thing I did when I got to my hotel and home was jump in the shower.

I do know some folks, usually older, that can get away with skipping showers if they're not all that active so it does work. Just not for me.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Davnasty on February 21, 2020, 02:45:09 PM

It's also possible you stink a lot more than you realize, but no one is telling you because they don't want to come across as rude or a jerk.

Some people will even wear the same clothes multiple days, and that adds to the stench.

I'm getting the sense that you smell really really bad if you skip a shower...

I don't want to find out, so I take a shower everyday and wear clean clothes.  But I think these stinky people I've come across don't realize how bad they smell, or they would be doing something about it.   Just because no one says you stink, doesn't mean you don't.   Most people just aren't going to come out and tell you.  Someone close to you isn't going to notice because they've grown used to it.  But believe me, the public notices.  By "you", I just mean any individual, not the person I responded to.

Absolutely there are people that have an odor but don't realize it. Using that fact to reach the conclusion that everyone must shower once per day in order to not stink is odd though. Is one shower every 24 hours the magic number?

As a counterexample I had a friend I hadn't seen in years (definitely not adjusted to his smell) visit during a cross country drive. He asked to use my shower but also mentioned that he was only showering about once a week. I worried that he simply wasn't smelling himself anymore so I gave him a few deep sniffs (for science) and confirmed that there was no offensive odor.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Davnasty on February 21, 2020, 02:46:28 PM
Guys, if you want to stink less, shave your armpits.  It's the hair that the bacteria really cling to and stink up.

Does shaving make your pits itch? If not, I'd give it a shot.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: American GenX on February 21, 2020, 03:07:10 PM

It's also possible you stink a lot more than you realize, but no one is telling you because they don't want to come across as rude or a jerk.

Some people will even wear the same clothes multiple days, and that adds to the stench.

I'm getting the sense that you smell really really bad if you skip a shower...

I don't want to find out, so I take a shower everyday and wear clean clothes.  But I think these stinky people I've come across don't realize how bad they smell, or they would be doing something about it.   Just because no one says you stink, doesn't mean you don't.   Most people just aren't going to come out and tell you.  Someone close to you isn't going to notice because they've grown used to it.  But believe me, the public notices.  By "you", I just mean any individual, not the person I responded to.

Absolutely there are people that have an odor but don't realize it. Using that fact to reach the conclusion that everyone must shower once per day in order to not stink is odd though. Is one shower every 24 hours the magic number?

As a counterexample I had a friend I hadn't seen in years (definitely not adjusted to his smell) visit during a cross country drive. He asked to use my shower but also mentioned that he was only showering about once a week. I worried that he simply wasn't smelling himself anymore so I gave him a few deep sniffs (for science) and confirmed that there was no offensive odor.

Your friend was probably pulling your leg.  Anyway, I didn't say "everyone must".  Maybe not 24 hours.  I usually take a shower a little later in the morning on the weekend than I do during the work week, it might be 26 hours, for example, then 22 hours by Monday morning.

I couldn't say it applies to everyone but I've experienced this. A friend of a friend was saying how her husband doesn't need to wear deodorant and doesn't smell, etc. when just about everyone in the group had to correct her that he really does smell - talk about an exercise in tact. She was shocked. Maybe both hers and his sense of smell is wonky or they are just used to it and the odor is ignored somehow? But, either way, there were two people completely oblivious to a body odor problem.

Good example.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Tyson on February 21, 2020, 04:49:14 PM
Guys, if you want to stink less, shave your armpits.  It's the hair that the bacteria really cling to and stink up.

Does shaving make your pits itch? If not, I'd give it a shot.

It does not.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 21, 2020, 05:29:56 PM
This thread has been the best part of my day. I love watching people adamantly dying on a hill I don’t really care about.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: marty998 on February 21, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
Guys, if you want to stink less, shave your armpits.  It's the hair that the bacteria really cling to and stink up.

Does shaving make your pits itch? If not, I'd give it a shot.

It does not.

Yeah I don't shave completely there, just trim it down and it seems to mean less sweat and less smell.

Also - removing hair "down under" works well too. Still smell a bit funky at the end of the day, so a daily shower is necessary, but having less hair there makes a difference.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Metalcat on February 22, 2020, 06:51:14 AM
Lol, I work in an environment where it's normal to call someone out in front of everyone if they don't smell perfectly fresh. It's not considered embarrassing, it's considered doing them a service. Staff are in polyester scrubs, which can just randomly react with some people's bodies, so it's nothing to tell a colleague to switch scrub brands.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: projekt on February 22, 2020, 08:57:11 AM
Polyester is the problem. It’s why under armor gets stinky and cotton doesn’t.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Metalcat on February 22, 2020, 09:53:05 AM
Polyester is the problem. It’s why under armor gets stinky and cotton doesn’t.

Yep, I mentioned previously that it's why I wear only merino wool. It's also why I refuse to wear the work uniform.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: julia on February 22, 2020, 03:50:02 PM
This may be super gross to some, but I only shower every 3 or 4 days (2 times a week - I'm a 26 year old female and I'm very active). My bf is also 26 and he showers every 2 or 3 days (only because his hair greases quickly but he doesn't smell at all.. he even wears 'natural' deodorant).
I personally dislike showering... it's unpleasant (cold getting out) and time consuming.

We frequently go on long distance cycling trips where we cycle up to 10 hours a day and wild-camp, and wash ourselves in a lake every few days haha.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: maisymouser on February 22, 2020, 04:41:39 PM
This may be super gross to some, but I only shower every 3 or 4 days (2 times a week - I'm a 26 year old female and I'm very active). My bf is also 26 and he showers every 2 or 3 days (only because his hair greases quickly but he doesn't smell at all.. he even wears 'natural' deodorant).
I personally dislike showering... it's unpleasant (cold getting out) and time consuming.

We frequently go on long distance cycling trips where we cycle up to 10 hours a day and wild-camp, and wash ourselves in a lake every few days haha.

Exactly. My problem is that I tend to have long hair, due to not wanting to pay $$$ to keep it short (tried letting DH cut my hair, not my most successful experiment ever) and not using a hair dryer. It takes a long time to air dry and just makes me feel cold for about an hour or two afterward in the winter.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Metalcat on February 22, 2020, 04:44:03 PM
This may be super gross to some, but I only shower every 3 or 4 days (2 times a week - I'm a 26 year old female and I'm very active). My bf is also 26 and he showers every 2 or 3 days (only because his hair greases quickly but he doesn't smell at all.. he even wears 'natural' deodorant).
I personally dislike showering... it's unpleasant (cold getting out) and time consuming.

We frequently go on long distance cycling trips where we cycle up to 10 hours a day and wild-camp, and wash ourselves in a lake every few days haha.

Exactly. My problem is that I tend to have long hair, due to not wanting to pay $$$ to keep it short (tried letting DH cut my hair, not my most successful experiment ever) and not using a hair dryer. It takes a long time to air dry and just makes me feel cold for about an hour or two afterward in the winter.

Saaaaaaaaaaame.

Although, I got a fancy hair drying towel and it makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Adventine on February 22, 2020, 08:13:38 PM
This thread has been the best part of my day. I love watching people adamantly dying on a hill I don’t really care about.

Same here!
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: waltworks on February 22, 2020, 09:29:03 PM
I don't ever use soap or shampoo (except hand soap, because, you know, germs). Neither does my wife. Nor do my kids. Somehow none of us stinks horribly, even though we're pretty serious athletes and are outside getting sweaty and dirty on a daily basis.

I probably do a quick rinse-off 2 or 3 times a week, but just with water. No scrubbing or soaping.

Interestingly enough, my sister is a dermatologist and says that one of the most common pieces of advice she gives people is "stop using soap".

-W
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Trifle on February 23, 2020, 04:39:16 AM
I personally dislike showering... it's unpleasant (cold getting out) and time consuming.

+1.  I'm very active, and don't like showers either.  They dry out my skin and then I'm cold getting out.  I only get in there if I really need to, maybe twice a week in the winter, and more often in the summer.  No soap unless I need it.  On non-shower days I just clean up with a washcloth as needed. 

As for how other people smell, I'm rarely offended by someone who smells sweaty.  I'm way more often choked by strangers' overpowering perfume/soap/shampoo/bodywash/whatever smell.   I think a lot of people overdo it.   

This thread is hilarious -- people are so different.   
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: GuitarStv on February 23, 2020, 05:54:22 AM
I need to shower just about every day as I work out hard enough to be soaked and dripping with sweat most days.  I've heard stories of people who work out and don't smell . . . but have occasionally run into proponents of this 'my sweat doesn't stink theory' who have a persistent pernicious smell about them that they seem to be used/immune to.  (I knew a few people in my engineering courses at university who were able to clear a ten foot radius around themselves in lectures.)  So my advice on this issue would be to be careful about this claim.  :P

People who use excessive amounts of scented stuff are also at least as bad as those who stink of BO.

Not sure I understand the 'time consuming' comments about showering.  What the hell are you all doing in there???  A shower takes me 3-4 minutes with maybe another 2 minutes to dry off.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Metalcat on February 23, 2020, 06:18:52 AM
I need to shower just about every day as I work out hard enough to be soaked and dripping with sweat most days.  I've heard stories of people who work out and don't smell . . . but have occasionally run into proponents of this 'my sweat doesn't stink theory' who have a persistent pernicious smell about them that they seem to be used/immune to.  (I knew a few people in my engineering courses at university who were able to clear a ten foot radius around themselves in lectures.)  So my advice on this issue would be to be careful about this claim.  :P

People who use excessive amounts of scented stuff are also at least as bad as those who stink of BO.

Not sure I understand the 'time consuming' comments about showering.  What the hell are you all doing in there???  A shower takes me 3-4 minutes with maybe another 2 minutes to dry off.

You've obviously never tried to rinse shampoo and conditioner out of two feet of porous colour treated hair.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: big_owl on February 23, 2020, 06:23:19 AM
When my wife and I go mountaineering or even backpacking we can sometimes go a week without showering. Wtf it's terrible - I feel gross and it stinks. Literally it's the worst part about the sport.

And what about showers being time consuming?  It's like 3min and you use a few pennies worth of soap and shampoo. I even use that fancy Dr Squatch stuff and I use maybe a bar every month. It's all natural and I have an auto subscription so it just comes every so often automatically.  Use only warm water in the winter and it won't dry your skin.

You don't need to wipe your ass after you take a crap either but it's still a best practice. Think of your friends and coworkers.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 23, 2020, 07:06:10 AM
Not sure I understand the 'time consuming' comments about showering.  What the hell are you all doing in there???

Well, on my ship the shower is literally the only place to be alone. So, generally I’m wanking. Water off, though. Conservation.



Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: GuitarStv on February 23, 2020, 07:42:40 AM
Not sure I understand the 'time consuming' comments about showering.  What the hell are you all doing in there???

Well, on my ship the shower is literally the only place to be alone. So, generally I’m wanking. Water off, though. Conservation.

So add 30 - 40 seconds and you're good, right?  :P
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: maisymouser on February 23, 2020, 08:03:19 AM
When my wife and I go mountaineering or even backpacking we can sometimes go a week without showering. Wtf it's terrible - I feel gross and it stinks. Literally it's the worst part about the sport.

And what about showers being time consuming?  It's like 3min and you use a few pennies worth of soap and shampoo. I even use that fancy Dr Squatch stuff and I use maybe a bar every month. It's all natural and I have an auto subscription so it just comes every so often automatically.  Use only warm water in the winter and it won't dry your skin.

You don't need to wipe your ass after you take a crap either but it's still a best practice. Think of your friends and coworkers.

If you have a lot of hair, and shave ~1-2x a week (talking about legs which take more time to shave than facial hair), and take into account prolonged dry off time if you have longer hair, it tends to be a 10-15 minute job, minimum. Not saying it's a waste of time but it's not something I get excited about doing every day.

I also have a toddler and those 15 minutes aren't always very peaceful. In my house the tiny bathroom that the three of us share is only about 13 sqft and I'm always trying to track down where my towel went, my soaps that the kid moved, etc... It always feels like more than a hassle than it should be, I guess. There's a lot to do every day to keep our house running smoothly, and daily showering for me isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: GuitarStv on February 23, 2020, 08:11:15 AM
talking about legs which take more time to shave than facial hair

YMMV on that.  My legs take less time to shave than my face.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: American GenX on February 23, 2020, 08:17:56 AM
I like the feeling of a shower, so I take longer than 3 or 4 minutes, more like 10 minutes, unless I'm in a rush.  And of course, I use soap and shampoo.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 23, 2020, 08:18:22 AM
Not sure I understand the 'time consuming' comments about showering.  What the hell are you all doing in there???

Well, on my ship the shower is literally the only place to be alone. So, generally I’m wanking. Water off, though. Conservation.

So add 30 - 40 seconds and you're good, right?  :P

I’m no superminuteman!
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Wrenchturner on February 23, 2020, 09:38:38 AM
This thread has been the best part of my day. I love watching people adamantly dying on a hill I don’t really care about.

Lots of problematic white (collar) privilege in this thread.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: projekt on February 23, 2020, 11:08:35 AM
There may be privilege, but it's not problematic.  If you need to shower every day, do so.  If you have never considered not showering every day, give it a try!  Doesn't work for you?  Oh well. 
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: GuitarStv on February 23, 2020, 01:43:52 PM
Just had a thought . . . for those of you who don't have sweat that stinks you must save a mint on laundry expenses.  If not for the smell of sweat, I would wear clothes for months (years?) between washings.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: ixtap on February 23, 2020, 02:03:31 PM
Just had a thought . . . for those of you who don't have sweat that stinks you must save a mint on laundry expenses.  If not for the smell of sweat, I would wear clothes for months (years?) between washings.

There may still be oils. Some of us aren't so neat. And I only have about a week's worth of underwear.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: waltworks on February 23, 2020, 02:34:14 PM
I wear most clothes for multiple days. Pants or shorts for a month is normal. Shirts is usually just a few days, they eventually get gross. Underwear and socks I do change daily.

My wife is a super sensitive person about smells, so I can say with some amount of certainty that it's not a problem (for me).

And yes, nice to do very little laundry.

-W

Just had a thought . . . for those of you who don't have sweat that stinks you must save a mint on laundry expenses.  If not for the smell of sweat, I would wear clothes for months (years?) between washings.

There may still be oils. Some of us aren't so neat. And I only have about a week's worth of underwear.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: big_owl on February 23, 2020, 02:55:37 PM
Hey I just read an article in a magazine (I think Wired?) that said the average person leaves 0.14g of fecal matter on their ass when they wipe.  Without a shower that would add up pretty quick, and be rather stinky. 
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: GuitarStv on February 23, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Hey I just read an article in a magazine (I think Wired?) that said the average person leaves 0.14g of fecal matter on their ass when they wipe.  Without a shower that would add up pretty quick, and be rather stinky.

Toilet paper is disgusting and bidets should be legally mandatory in bathrooms.  :P
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Sailor Sam on February 23, 2020, 03:17:42 PM
This forum is the best goddamn entertainment.

Something like 3,400 posts on the AMWSC ridiculing people who are too dumb to wake up from the Matrix and stop spending money.

Then!

A couple people say they really, truly, pinky-swear actually can to longer than 24 hours between showers and still not be offense, and the MMM forum be like: “Inconceivable!”
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: American GenX on February 23, 2020, 03:22:58 PM
Hey I just read an article in a magazine (I think Wired?) that said the average person leaves 0.14g of fecal matter on their ass when they wipe.  Without a shower that would add up pretty quick, and be rather stinky.

Yes, but that can come in handy for those people in instances like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWaZMXiimms
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: big_owl on February 23, 2020, 03:49:38 PM
Hey I just read an article in a magazine (I think Wired?) that said the average person leaves 0.14g of fecal matter on their ass when they wipe.  Without a shower that would add up pretty quick, and be rather stinky.

Toilet paper is disgusting and bidets should be legally mandatory in bathrooms.  :P

I remember when I was just a young-un in college and I was talking to an engineer at my co-op and for whatever reason the conversation steered towards this subject.  He mentioned bidets and I was like ewww gross those things are nasty. Then he said to me "Really?  As opposed to what, smearing shit around your ass with paper?"  Mind blown. Major eye opening life changing event for me.  The Japanese really are doing it right.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Trifle on February 23, 2020, 03:53:53 PM
This forum is the best goddamn entertainment.

Something like 3,400 posts on the AMWSC ridiculing people who are too dumb to wake up from the Matrix and stop spending money.

Then!

A couple people say they really, truly, pinky-swear actually can to longer than 24 hours between showers and still not be offense, and the MMM forum be like: “Inconceivable!”


Clearly the only way we'll be able to settle this is we all get together at the next Camp Mustache, smell each other, and then vote.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Blue Skies on February 24, 2020, 10:22:46 AM
I have issues with dry skin.  In the winter showering every day requires copious amounts of lotion, and even then I'm still itchy.  It is not fun.  I did it for years, but then I came to my senses.  Now, I shower every other day.  In the summer I can get by without so much lotion, and end up sweating more, so I shower more often.  Still not every single day though. 
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: OtherJen on February 24, 2020, 10:51:06 AM
This thread has been the best part of my day. I love watching people adamantly dying on a hill I don’t really care about.

Right?! I'm tempted to get some popcorn.

Wow, people are different! Who knew?! Some people are like me and sweat a lot and have oily skin that remains oily even if I don't use soap (haven't washed my face with soap in ages; still have oily skin, even in winter). Some odor-causing bacteria and fungi really love sweat and skin oil, and therefore I shower (or at least clean pits/privates/feet/face at the sink) daily. Other people have less active sweat and sebum glands and don't need to shower as often. Good for them.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Tyson on February 24, 2020, 11:51:35 AM
This thread has been the best part of my day. I love watching people adamantly dying on a hill I don’t really care about.

Right?! I'm tempted to get some popcorn.

Wow, people are different! Who knew?! Some people are like me and sweat a lot and have oily skin that remains oily even if I don't use soap (haven't washed my face with soap in ages; still have oily skin, even in winter). Some odor-causing bacteria and fungi really love sweat and skin oil, and therefore I shower (or at least clean pits/privates/feet/face at the sink) daily. Other people have less active sweat and sebum glands and don't need to shower as often. Good for them.

Different climates too, affect this.  I used to live in Houston and had to shower every day because that place is like a freaking sauna.  When I moved to Denver I kept showering every day for a long time and had severely dry skin as a result.  Nowadays I shower every couple of days and I'm still less oily/stinky than I was in Houston on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: ChickenStash on February 24, 2020, 01:15:44 PM
Hey I just read an article in a magazine (I think Wired?) that said the average person leaves 0.14g of fecal matter on their ass when they wipe.  Without a shower that would add up pretty quick, and be rather stinky.

Toilet paper is disgusting and bidets should be legally mandatory in bathrooms.  :P

I remember when I was just a young-un in college and I was talking to an engineer at my co-op and for whatever reason the conversation steered towards this subject.  He mentioned bidets and I was like ewww gross those things are nasty. Then he said to me "Really?  As opposed to what, smearing shit around your ass with paper?"  Mind blown. Major eye opening life changing event for me.  The Japanese really are doing it right.

Up until recently, the only bidet setup I saw was a separate fixture from the toilet requiring twice as much space. How very 1%er to have 2x the sqft for "evacuating". I've seen the toilet seat based ones but they all looked cheap and many needed an electric outlet near by - yeah, I want to have household current running a device spraying water on my sensitive bits.

What blew my mind (almost literally considering where my head usually is) was a trip to Egypt where every hotel/lodging bathroom had a really simple, all-in-one bidet/toilet design. It was a simple chromed sprayer nozzle permanently mounted in the bowl a few inches above the water line. The control was a manual knob on the side of the bowl near the tank that regulated water from the same connection as the tank. No extra space needed, no power requirements, a simple mechanical solution. Cleaning is the same as a regular toilet with, perhaps, some extra care on what chemicals are used. The water wasn't heated so it was an awakening experience in the morning but not a big deal. It took some practice to get lined up for the sprayer since it had no adjustment beyond pressure. I'm not sure how this compares to what they do in Japan or Europe - haven't traveled there, yet.

Now that I'm back in the US, I want one of these. I can't find anything other than the cheap seat based ones or uber-expensive ulta-modern toilets that seem to just be doing a "built-in" version of the cheap seats and up-charging dramatically ($1200+). If I had known better, I would have bought one in Cairo and carried it home in my checked baggage. TSA would have loved that. "Do you have anything to declare?" "Umm..."
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: Boofinator on February 24, 2020, 01:32:22 PM
On the topic of bidets....

How do you know when you're "done"? What is the equivalent of the wipe test on a bidet?
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: PDXTabs on February 24, 2020, 01:41:46 PM
I concur, humans do not need to shower once a day. However, in the summer I certainly like to shower once per day.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: chaskavitch on February 24, 2020, 02:04:46 PM
I'm firmly in the "not every day" camp.  I take a shower and wash my hair with a shampoo bar every 4-5 days in the winter.  The weather is super dry here, and I work at a desk, so other than my actual workouts I'm not getting sweaty.  I usually wipe down my armpits and other relevant areas with a soapy wash cloth after I work out.  If I took a shower every day I'd go through like a thousand bottles of lotion.  In the summer I shower more often, but still only every 2-4 days, probably.  My DH has a very sensitive nose, and he'll definitely tell me if I'm smelly.

What blew my mind (almost literally considering where my head usually is) was a trip to Egypt where every hotel/lodging bathroom had a really simple, all-in-one bidet/toilet design. It was a simple chromed sprayer nozzle permanently mounted in the bowl a few inches above the water line. The control was a manual knob on the side of the bowl near the tank that regulated water from the same connection as the tank. No extra space needed, no power requirements, a simple mechanical solution. Cleaning is the same as a regular toilet with, perhaps, some extra care on what chemicals are used. The water wasn't heated so it was an awakening experience in the morning but not a big deal. It took some practice to get lined up for the sprayer since it had no adjustment beyond pressure. I'm not sure how this compares to what they do in Japan or Europe - haven't traveled there, yet.

Now that I'm back in the US, I want one of these. I can't find anything other than the cheap seat based ones or uber-expensive ulta-modern toilets that seem to just be doing a "built-in" version of the cheap seats and up-charging dramatically ($1200+). If I had known better, I would have bought one in Cairo and carried it home in my checked baggage. TSA would have loved that. "Do you have anything to declare?" "Umm..."

@ChickenStash We have a cheap ~$30 one from Amazon - no electricity required, just add it in-line with the water to the tank.  It's not fancy and heated or anything, but it's been working just fine for at least 5 years now. 

Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: projekt on February 24, 2020, 02:42:39 PM
Now that I'm back in the US, I want one of these. I can't find anything other than the cheap seat based ones or uber-expensive ulta-modern toilets that seem to just be doing a "built-in" version of the cheap seats and up-charging dramatically ($1200+). If I had known better, I would have bought one in Cairo and carried it home in my checked baggage. TSA would have loved that. "Do you have anything to declare?" "Umm..."

I know it's out of the given price range, but Toto manufactures and sells the Neorest toilet in the US. https://www.totousa.com/find-a-showroom  I don't think they're all that cheap in Japan.
Title: Re: Great News: You don't have to shower (every day)!
Post by: sui generis on February 24, 2020, 08:12:22 PM
After a 3 week backpacking trip with no showers, I got home and (after an awesome warm shower) was like, "Why do I do this every single day? Seems excessive."  For a week, I was only showering every other day, but then my muscles had rested and I had to get back to some physical activity and....yep, time to shower every day again.  I mean, that or wet wipes for the important bits like on the trail.  And I'm a female, so just want to admit to that here....even some women get stinky and have to shower more in the civilized world.  I still wash my hair much less (1-2x per week instead of every other day), but again on the trail where I didn't wash my hair for 3 straight weeks, I was either constantly under a giant hat or a beanie.  Considerations are very different between wilderness and civilization, but it did give me the chance to push a little further to a still-totally-reasonable position of less showering and hair washing when possible.

At home, I loooooove a warm shower, even if it's my standard 2 minutes-ish.  On the trail, I looooove not having to worry about my hair and just using a few baby wipes each day.